Delusional

[Pioneer1]

You have to be delusional TO A CERTAIN DEGREE in order to really achieve Success in this world.

You can't be too stuck in the current "here and now" or focus only on what you THINK is likely or probable.

You have to be a dreamer and dream big and actually believe those dreams can and will be accomplished.

This is important for intelligent and righteous Black people to understand and accept.

[ProfD]

Beyond dreaming about what it takes to be successful, one must have plans and goals and take action every moment of being awake in order to accomplish it.

 

As the religious folks say "faith without works is dead", the same thing applies to success. 

 

Some folks find success through luck.  Others gain success through inheritance.  Somebody else put in the work. 

 

Most success is gained through hard work, determination, larceny and sometimes violence.

 

There is a lot of truth to the fact that one can accomplish anything if they put their 1) mind to it and 2) work to make happen. 

 

Those who are unsuccessful did now want it badly and/or work hard enough.

[Mel Hopkins]

7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

You have to be delusional TO A CERTAIN DEGREE in order to really achieve Success in this world.

I share this sentiment, but could you please define 'delusional' and 'success'?

I'm currently reading Don Quixote - and dude was financially successful, but it was not enough for him. He felt like a failure and then lost his mind, becoming Don Quixote. 

 

At the end of his journey as Don Quixote, he found success, but it had nothing to do with "things." He found success through his inner transformation.  

[aka Contrarian]

In the worlds of Professional Sports and Entertainment, not everybody who strives to is going to become a star. The many who aspire to such success are, indeed,  delusional when it comes to how innately talented they are. 

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

I don't disagree with what you said, but for the sake of discussion let me throw this at you.......
 

Hard work will only get you so far.

Genetics also plays a huge role in success.
 

I don't care how hard a mentally retarded person works, their financial and social success will be limited because of their limited ability to think.
 

Some people are athletically gifted with strong muscles, coordination, and nerve impulses...genetics.
Practice at sports isn't "hard work" to them but fun because their efforts come with ease.
Others will be obese all of their lives regardless of their diet....because of genetics.
Their athletic abilities are limited and too much "hard work" will actually injure them causing more harm than good.

Infact, if you don't have the right genes....you won't have the ENERGY to put in the work to begin with.
Nor will you have the drive or ambition.

 

You can go to Honduras or Cambodia and see people working hard as hell from sun up to sun down, but are still in poverty.

So their hard work is of naught.

 

 

 

 

 

Mel

I share this sentiment, but could you please define 'delusional' and 'success'?
 

Ok, but I'd rather give you MY definitions of these terms rather than Websters' or Oxfords'...lol.

Delusional: Believing in a scenario (past, present, or future) not shared by others

Success:  Accomplishment of goals
 

Notice I didn't mention money or relationships in the definition of success; because success tends to be personal, and not everyone sees those things as necessary for THEIR success.

As far as I'm concerned ANY goal you set and end up meeting is a "success" because it's what you wanted and you achieved it.

Even if it's going to the grocery store, coming back home, laying on the couch, and smoking weed the rest of the day.
If THAT'S what you woke up intending to accomplish today....and did it...you were successful, lol.



I'm currently reading Don Quixote - and dude was financially successful, but it was not enough for him. 
 

See, that's why I defined success the way I did.
For a lot of people...money is NOT success.
It comes to them so easy it's not even satisfying for them, they want more.
They want a challenge to overcome.

 

Maybe the accumulation of lots of money is a TEMPORARY success for some but after this is achieved, they want more.
But for others....money is the ULTIMATE success for them.
Especially if they grew up not having any.

Like Jay-Z said:  If you grew up with holes in your zapatos you'd celebrate every minute that you had some dough

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Hard work will only get you so far.

Genetics also plays a huge role in success.

Right. Several factors including conditions and environment play a role in success. 

 

Compromised people will have a harder time becoming successful due to physical and/or mental challenges.

 

Lazy people have no excuse. Well, they do but it's not really a good one.

[Pioneer1]

2 minutes ago, ProfD said:

 

Lazy people have no excuse. Well, they do but it's not really a good one.

The laziest people in the world can be enticed to work with the proper motivation and incentive.

I don't know how many times I've seen lazy young men who were too lazy to even pick up their feet and walk....they just shuffled around....all of a sudden straighten up and show ambition and diligence when an attractive woman asks them for something, lol.

He was motivated because he had an incentive.

[ProfD]

16 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

The laziest people in the world can be enticed to work with the proper motivation and incentive.

True. 

 

Yet, there is a difference between people who are naturally motivated to put in work and those who have to be incentivized and/or intimidated into working.

 

People are lazy for any number of reasons.  They are not the pool of candidates an employer looks for when a job needs to be done.