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Black people complain about double standards from non Blacks , but isn't it time for Blacks to stop imposing financial double standards on ourselves?  

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  1. 1. Black people complain about double standards from non Blacks , but isn't it time for Blacks to stop imposing financial double standards on ourselves?

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Economic Corner

The Two Economies of the USA have a simple problem. 

 

One is financially wealthy, always growing fiscal wealth based on arithmetic manipulation plus flexibility supported by the most powerful military in humanity , but also always needing bailouts. Always too big too fail, even though it fails a lot. 

The other is losing jobs, losing investment,has a balooning populace. But hasn't led to riots, it is holding on to hope. 

NYC is clearly showing this. 


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https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/education/2025/10/17/more-than-150-000-nyc-students-were-homeless-during-the-last-school-year

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From a parents mouth
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https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/education/2025/10/17/one-family-s-experience-navigating-public-school-while-homeless
 

Prior Edition

https://aalbc.com/tc/events/event/562-economic-corner-23/

 

Posted

Sure. Black folks can stop imposing financial double standards on ourselves. 

 

Even better would be for homeless Black folks to stop procreating. Seems selfish to bring children into a world of poverty and homelessness.

 

Dr. Frances Cress-Welsing had it right in proselytizing that Black folks should not procreate or marry until they are at least 30 years old.

 

Dr. Cress-Welsing figured that level of discipline would give young Black people enough time to become college educated, gainfully employed and save money.

 

I hope that Black folks will find a way to build wealth despite the handicap of legacy of slavery over four centuries and obstacles built into the system of racism white supremacy.😎

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@ProfD

On 10/24/2025 at 1:10 AM, ProfD said:

Dr. Frances Cress-Welsing had it right in proselytizing that Black folks should not procreate or marry until they are at least 30 years old.

 

have you or anyone else who follows Welsing asked her the following questions? 

1) does she want the black dos population in the usa to get old and die? 

2) does she prosyletize to non black dos woman,including black recent immigrant women plus all non black women from wherever: who don't speak english in the usa, are not college educated, on welfare , are not thrity, or have three or better children not to have children fr which NYC has millions?

 

On 10/24/2025 at 1:10 AM, ProfD said:

I hope that Black folks will find a way to build wealth despite the handicap of legacy of slavery over four centuries and obstacles built into the system of racism white supremacy.😎

Black people in the usa have nonviolently built wealth in the usa nonviolently having the legacy of enslavement + jim crow forcing most of said wealth to come through individual efforts. 

The question to you as I ask others in the this forum, is what do you want from the black populace in the usa to be satisfied? I define satisified as a situation where you Profd no longer have a complain to the black populace in the usa. I will ask the specific question at the end of my comment. 

I asked @Pioneer1 a while back, what will it take for him to be satisfied, meaning the same as you, concerning the issue of illegalities, for Pioneer continually suggest one instance of illegality from one individual in the black populace in the USA is too much and shows urgency. His answer was until the black populace commits no illegalities he will have a complaint. 

Now Pioneer in my reading has never displayed the same passion to non black or non black doser illegalities in the usa. His variance in approach suggest they are allowables or acceptables to him. 

So Profd, what will satisfy you financially concerning the black populace or specifically, the black dos populace in the usa? 

 

 

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5 hours ago, richardmurray said:

 

have you or anyone else who follows Welsing asked her the following questions? 

1) does she want the black dos population in the usa to get old and die? 

2) does she prosyletize to non black dos woman,including black recent immigrant women plus all non black women from wherever: who don't speak english in the usa, are not college educated, on welfare , are not thrity, or have three or better children not to have children fr which NYC has millions?

I don't know if anyone asked those questions of Dr. Cress-Welsing. It's too late since her spirit has already flown many years ago.

 

 

5 hours ago, richardmurray said:

So Profd, what will satisfy you financially concerning the black populace or specifically, the black dos populace in the usa? 

As I've mentioned already, build more Black financial institutions among other things.😎

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@ProfD

well her death is convenient in that sense, but glad she has those who still follow her thinking positively.

 

This is the economic corner, build more isn't a goal. 

How many more Black businesses do you want to see? The answer can't be infinite, can't be everywhere overwhelming, the USA is not a black country nor are the nonblacks absent the means to harm/destroy black business. 

If you can't give a count, what about a percentage? What percentage of business in the usa do you need Black business to increase as? What percentage of Black business in the usa do you want to increase to? 

Present goals. 

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7 hours ago, richardmurray said:

 

well her death is convenient in that sense, but glad she has those who still follow her thinking positively.

Words of wisdom do not die.

 

7 hours ago, richardmurray said:

This is the economic corner, build more isn't a goal. 

Build financial institutions like banks and credit unions. Places where Black folks can pool their monies.

7 hours ago, richardmurray said:

How many more Black businesses do you want to see?

Black financial institutions can extend favorable lines of credit to Black start-up businesses in every major Black cities around the country. 

 

Once successful, we can diversify into other types of businesses too i.e. investments.

7 hours ago, richardmurray said:

The answer can't be infinite, can't be everywhere overwhelming, the USA is not a black country nor are the nonblacks absent the means to harm/destroy black business. 

Black businesses need to be supported and protected by any means necessary.😎

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@ProfD

20 hours ago, ProfD said:

Words of wisdom do not die.

and lies tend to live at the fountain of youth

 

20 hours ago, ProfD said:

Black financial institutions can extend favorable lines of credit to Black start-up businesses in every major Black cities around the country. 

 

Once successful, we can diversify into other types of businesses too i.e. investments.

I see your goal now. At the moment, in  2025 more black investment firms exist than in decades past, maybe in the history of the usa , or the european colonies preceding so from a mere growth perspective black owned financial instutitions are growing, are greater in quantity now than ever before. 

So, your goal is for the current growth of black owned financial instutitions: investment firms, credit unions, banks, to expand ... at a rate never known in the history of the usa...

Ideally possible, the problem with the expanse your speaking of is it needs something money can't buy. Belief, Love ... in the usa. circa fifty million black people in the usa today, don't have a lot of inspiration. 

 

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7 hours ago, richardmurray said:

Ideally possible, the problem with the expanse your speaking of is it needs something money can't buy. Belief, Love ... in the usa. circa fifty million black people in the usa today, don't have a lot of inspiration. 

Right. Maybe this current hyper-white nationalism movement will force Black folks to rely on each other even moreso.😎

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"Eric Adams a few years ago stated New York City has a bustling economy, job

growth is unlike ever before. But, this article admits that for ten years in a row,

over one hundred thousand children in New York City were homeless."

 

 

I read this post at least four times to try and understand it. So now, I believe the double standard is that, like the non-Blacks, our Black upper class sectors are ignoring the poverty stricken Black population but all the while, bragging about a good economy. 

 

So even though the homeless people in New York represent 1% of the population, still though the numbers range into the thousands and that is a serious problem nonetheless. Not only that but, many of the black children that go to school are shuffled about from school to school due to their parent(s) homeless situation that causes them to have to move constantly and this is detrimental to their well being. 

 

"... while non Blacks are literally proving themselves to be terrible at business throughout

many sectors but have the saving grace of the federal government to bail them out regardless

of their financial quality. So then looking at Black people in the USA who are homeless, how

should they look at the USA? at their situation in the USA?" 

 

This is a really big problem. And considering what just happened with the SNAP Program, well, it's getting worse for the poor and oppressed! Instead of helping to feed many little Black children who are affected by a failing economy, what does this government do? They attack the SNAP benefits whereby, most of the recipients were already in dire straits with parents struggling to work sufficient jobs to feed their children properly. 

 

Gratefully, the funds have been released recently, but I wonder how many little children went without food during that interim? 

Most of the public schools in my area are classified as Title I which means that most of the children in these districts are low income and therefore, funds are released to schools so that the children can eat while they are at school. 

 

I guess the hype about the Reparations Movement was a complete joke to this government. 

 

 

 

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On 10/24/2025 at 1:10 AM, ProfD said:

Even better would be for homeless Black folks to stop procreating. Seems selfish to bring children into a world of poverty and homelessness.

 

Homelessness is not a criminal offense and neither is being Black Homeless, so therefore to expect a Black homeless person to not procreate is completely wrong especially when it comes to this American government. 

 

Furthermore, it is not selfish for a homeless person to want to have children, but rather, I believe that it is selfish for this government to oppress Black people and deprive them of the right human support to be able to have children and provide properly for them to be able to thrive. 

 

This very American government has its foundation built up on little Black children! They encouraged Blacks  to bare children for how long?

And now, after hundreds of years exploiting little Black children, now they want to deprive them again!? 

OMG!

 

Not only that but, young people, females and males, are going to procreate in their youth if they are not educated properly of the responsibilities of providing for offspring.

So therefore, this government needs to do better on educating Black people, especially, on this issue since they are the very reason, initially, that has set the precedence for a lop sided economy.

 

 

On 10/24/2025 at 1:10 AM, ProfD said:

Dr. Frances Cress-Welsing had it right in proselytizing that Black folks should not procreate or marry until they are at least 30 years old.

 

Did she have children? I wonder.

 

Obviously, she did not realize the danger of having children at the age of 30. This is very dangerous for women who have never given birth before this age, anyway.

The child has a high risk of being born with retardation and other kinds of birth defects. 

If Black people waited until they were 30, it would be very problematic, not only for the genetic issue, but also other issues too. 

Waiting for the government to be fair before a person has children, it not the answer. 

 

 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Chevdove said:

Homelessness is not a criminal offense and neither is being Black Homeless, so therefore to expect a Black homeless person to not procreate is completely wrong especially when it comes to this American government. 

The government should not be responsible for birth control.

3 minutes ago, Chevdove said:

Furthermore, it is not selfish for a homeless person to want to have children, but rather, I believe that it is selfish for this government to oppress Black people and deprive them of the right human support to be able to have children and provide properly for them to be able to thrive. 

Why should a homeless person want to bring a child into the world and not being able to provide for them?

 

3 minutes ago, Chevdove said:

Not only that but, young people, females and males, are going to procreate in their youth if they are not educated properly of the responsibilities of providing for offspring.

Isn't it the responsibility of their parents to teach them better?

3 minutes ago, Chevdove said:

So therefore, this government needs to do better on educating Black people, especially, on this issue since they are the very reason, initially, that has set the precedence for a lop sided economy.

Despite the fact that @Pioneer1 believes people lack intelligence,🤣 Black folks have been educated for many decades when it comes to the responsibilities of children, poverty, homelessness, etc.

 

IMO, it is very selfish of people to bring children into the world and not be able to take care of them. The government and taxpayers shouldn't have to bear that responsibility either.😎

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3 minutes ago, ProfD said:

IMO, it is very selfish of people to bring children into the world and not be able to take care of them. The government and taxpayers shouldn't have to bear that responsibility either.😎

 

But it is much more selfish to set sail and invade other peoples lands, then kill off adults, steal and enslave their children to become slaves, deprive them,  so that they can bring their own children into the world and have substance for them that you stole and killed for. Yes, this government and taxpayers should definitely bare that responsibility towards Black parents but also include an aggressive program as well, to re-educate them on how to economize to be able to provide for their offspring in the future so that the government is not overwhelmed. 

 

10 minutes ago, ProfD said:

The government should not be responsible for birth control.

 

Why not? They were responsible for birth control in the foundation of this government. 

 

12 minutes ago, ProfD said:

Why should a homeless person want to bring a child into the world and not being able to provide for them?

 

I don't think homeless people think that they will be homeless for ever, but have an expectation that this government will help them have the means to provide for their offspring. People should have an expectation that this government will allow them to be able to thrive.

 

13 minutes ago, ProfD said:

Isn't it the responsibility of their parents to teach them better?

 

The government bares the first responsibility, that is why it is illegal for young children to NOT go to school. Parents need to be taught first. 

 

15 minutes ago, ProfD said:

Despite the fact that @Pioneer1 believes people lack intelligence,🤣 Black folks have been educated for many decades when it comes to the responsibilities of children, poverty, homelessness, etc.

 

LOL. I am not going to speak about human intelligence, but as far as Black folks being educated, no way. WE have been mis-educated. WE have been through many decades of negative conditioning--Rewarding BAd Behavior-- and this has been detrimental. 

 

 

Posted
32 minutes ago, Chevdove said:

But it is much more selfish to set sail and invade other peoples lands, then kill off adults, steal and enslave their children to become slaves, deprive them,  so that they can bring their own children into the world and have substance for them that you stole and killed for. Yes, this government and taxpayers should definitely bare that responsibility towards Black parents...

Slavery was horrible. Reparations should be paid to FBA/ADOS.

 

As Black folks, we don't have to repeat cycles of dysfunction in response to slavery.

 

32 minutes ago, Chevdove said:

I don't think homeless people think that they will be homeless for ever, but have an expectation that this government will help them have the means to provide for their offspring. People should have an expectation that this government will allow them to be able to thrive.

People should be able to provide for offspring instead of relying on the government or anyone else to take care of them.

 

As adults, we have a responsibility to do strive to do better by every means necessary. 😎

Posted
17 hours ago, ProfD said:

 

Despite the fact that @Pioneer1 believes people lack intelligence,🤣 Black folks have been educated for many decades when it comes to the responsibilities of children, poverty, homelessness, etc.

😎


It's not about us "lacking intelligence".
The question is do we have enough intelligence....as a community...to solve our problems and get out from under the thumb and rule of White racism?

If we do...

If we ARE smart enough; then why haven't we?

It comes to a point where a man becomes too old and sober minded to entertain excuses.

Chances are any excuse reason you give will eventually swing back around to you either being intelligent enough to overcome it nor not.

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15 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

It's not about us "lacking intelligence".
The question is do we have enough intelligence....as a community...to solve our problems and get out from under the thumb and rule of White racism?

If we do...

If we ARE smart enough; then why haven't we?

It comes to a point where a man becomes too old and sober minded to entertain excuses.

Chances are any excuse reason you give will eventually swing back around to you either being intelligent enough to overcome it nor not.

Comfort and fear.

 

Apparently, when it comes to s8x...humans don't have to do a whole lot of thinking.  They aren't concerned about their *problems* or living situation.

 

Regardless of an individual's condition and/or circumstances, when the hormones kick up, somebody gonna get it in a shelter, alleyway, near a trashcan, abandoned car, etc.🤣😎

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ProfD

 

I HOPE you aren't suggesting that Black folks haven't risen out of the clutches out of White Racism because they're too busy having sex....lol.


In terms of military strength and technology China rivals Caucasians...both White America and Europe combined.
And there's a billion and a half Chinese swarming around on the planet.
Apparently they aren't so caught up in school and industry that they don't have time to "do it"...lol.

Seems to me intelligent people can walk and chew gum at the same time.

 


 

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Comfort and fear.

 


Here again, it swings right back around to intelligence.

An intelligent person doesn't have to rely on OTHER people to provide the comforts of life for him...he's smart enough to invent the technology himself and provide even MORE comfort than his less intelligent "would be if he could be" oppressor could offer him.

Massa offers me more butter biscuits and a place to stay in the Big House for selling out

 

 

 

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....but I just built a whole MANSION complete with banquet room and have 12 servants of my own.

There's NO NEED for me to sell out or cave in to White racism.

Why?

Because intelligence BRINGS comfort.



And fear????

What is there to fear from someone you're clearly superior in intelligence to?

Would you fear the threats from a 6 year old little boy, or retarded young man....when you could obviously set traps for him and out think anything he tries at any time you wish?

His threats and even attempts at harming you is mere ENTERTAINMENT that leaves you longing for a REAL challenge sometimes.

Posted
44 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

I HOPE you aren't suggesting that Black folks haven't risen out of the clutches out of White Racism because they're too busy having sex....lol.

Absolutely not.  It is the opiate that makes life under the system of racism white supremacy more bearable for some folks.🤣

 

44 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

In terms of military strength and technology China rivals Caucasians...both White America and Europe combined.
And there's a billion and a half Chinese swarming around on the planet.

China only has a higher population of people.  They do not have the same military strength from a technological perspective. 

 

A world war won't be as many boots on the ground.  Drones and other hi-tech sh8t will be used to *fight*.

44 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

An intelligent person doesn't have to rely on OTHER people to provide the comforts of life for him...he's smart enough to invent the technology himself and provide even MORE comfort than his less intelligent "would be if he could be" oppressor could offer him.

Most Black folks work for white-owned companies and businesses.

 

 

44 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

And fear????

What is there to fear from someone you're clearly superior in intelligence to?

Fear can be mental and/or physical.  As @frankster mentioned, it doesn't have anything to do with intelligence.😎

Posted

ProfD

Absolutely not. It is the opiate that makes life under the system of racism white supremacy more bearable for some folks.

I agree with that one.
So does food, alcohol, drugs, and other forms of "entertainment".

If that's a person's only means of coping....I wouldn't take it away from them UNLESS I could offer a better alternative.

 

 

 

Most Black folks work for white-owned companies and businesses.

....which further supports my point.

And if you've ever worked WITH Black folks IN a White owned-company, you know the type of competition and back-stabbing that often exists in these environments.
Some Black folks will do you in and lie on you and do you all kinds of dirty if they think it will bring them closer to the White executives and management.

Those intelligent enough to build THEIR OWN firms and formulate THEIR OWN economy, don't have to engage in such trifling and dishonorable behavior.
 

 


Fear can be mental and/or physical. As @frankster mentioned, it doesn't have anything to do with intelligence.

ALL fear is mental.
The CAUSES may be physical (impending doom, imminent physical harm)....
The SYMPTOMS may present themselves physically (nervousness, confusion, crying).....

....but the emotion itself is of the mind.

Posted
1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

So does food, alcohol, drugs, and other forms of "entertainment".

Sure. There are many opiates folks choose to use in order to cope with their existence.

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Some Black folks will do you in and lie on you and do you all kinds of dirty if they think it will bring them closer to the White executives and management.

Black folks do not have a monopoly on undermining each other in the workplace. Certain types of jobs lead to backbiting and other tricks to get ahead.

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Those intelligent enough to build THEIR OWN firms and formulate THEIR OWN economy, don't have to engage in such trifling and dishonorable behavior.

Starting a business or company is one thing. 

 

Creating an economy is no small feat because it would require coming up with something *new* and controlling the entire chain from production to distribution.

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

ALL fear is mental.

The CAUSES may be physical (impending doom, imminent physical harm)....
The SYMPTOMS may present themselves physically (nervousness, confusion, crying).....

....but the emotion itself is of the mind.

Fair enough. However it manifests, fear can lead to paralysis.😎

Posted

ProfD


Black folks do not have a monopoly on undermining each other in the workplace. Certain types of jobs lead to backbiting and other tricks to get ahead.

 

While this is true, there's a key difference that both you and I know when it comes to intra-racial conflicts.

White people will fight
eachother tooth and nail BUT when a Black man enters the room they will often put their differences to the side and unite to deal with HIM before resuming their attacks on eachother.
With a lot of our people...it's the opposite.

When 2 niggaz start going at it with eachother it's often ruthless and no holds barred and they could care less how many White folks are standing around watching it for their amusement.

If you just took a roll of toilet tissue home from work 3 years ago,  they'll be up in the manager's office telling him all about it and offering dates and times hoping they can find video footage of you caught in the act...lol.


No sense of "unity" or "comradery".


 

 

 

Creating an economy is no small feat because it would require coming up with something *new* and controlling the entire chain from production to distribution.

So what's stopping our people from establishing a national or even global Soul Food Restaurant chain or Black hair product distribution chain?

Indians came way over from India and establish nearly a monopoly on 7/11s and motels...lol.

Posted
1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

So what's stopping our people from establishing a national or even global Soul Food Restaurant chain or Black hair product distribution chain?

Unfortunately, entrepreneurship is not heavily promoted among our people and often times frowned upon.

 

Most of our people are taught to get a job or career working for someone else.😎

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