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Agreement is not proof.

Acceptance is closer to the definition - M-W

1a :  the cogency of evidence that compels acceptance by the mind of a truth or a factb :  the process or an instance of establishing the validity of a statement especially by derivation from other statements in accordance with principles of reasoning

2 obsolete :  experience

As I stated an experience can't not be verified.  I can search for the Library of Congress because someone said it exists on this plane...I could experience through observation that it exist but as soon as the experience is over so does the LOC.

So if you have an understanding of what I'm saying now, then move through the thought process you will have the answer to your question about Akashic records. 

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Mel

I think I understand what you're saying now..........

You're saying proof has nothing to do with the evidence YOU BRING but whether the person you're presenting that evidence to ACCEPTS it or not.

It's a shame they made the "experience" definition obselete, because in my opinion it's just as valid as the first definition if not MORE.

A little child can ACCEPT that Santa Claus exists simply because she was told so, does that now mean that there's PROOF that Santa exists because that belief has been ACCEPTED?

There has to be a better way of defining proof than even what Webster has....lol.

Perhaps there should be 2 versions of PROOF:

1. The first type would be solid evidence establishing absolute fact....regardless to what any one individual BELIEVES or ACCEPTS.

2. The second type (more to Websters) would be ANY evidence that the person BELIEVES and ACCEPTS, regardless as to how strong or weak that evidence is.


In one definition the onus is on the CONVINCER and on the second the onus is on the CONVINCEE. 

 

 

As I stated an experience can't not be verified. I can search for the Library of Congress because someone said it exists on this plane...I could experience through observation that it exist but as soon as the experience is over so does the LOC.


Experience can absolutely be verified, especially if I use the definition out of that very same dictionary:

VERIFY

1 : to establish the truth, accuracy, or reality of verify the claim

 

It just depends upon the INDIVIDUAL on whether or not they want to ACCEPT that verification.

If I had a video of you sitting in the Library of Congress, as long as I ACCEPT that the video is true and hasn't been doctored, your experience has been proven and verified.

In another example............

Let's say you and I visit D.C. together.
10 people tell us about the Library of Congress.
I believe it exists.....you don't.
I convince you to atleast GO to the area those people told us it was located.
We both get there, I see it, and I walk in and walk YOU in and we both sit down in a chair inside.

Now......
As far as I'm concerned, it has been VERIFIED and the proof ACCEPTED that it indeed exists.
If you want to sit there not believing that you're sitting inside the LOC.....
If you don't want to ACCEPT that fact......
Your unbelief and lack of acceptance doesn't cancel my verification and proof of our experience.


Applying this same logic to the Akashic Records................

Ofcourse I can't verify an experience YOU may have had.
However you CAN prove that it exist to my liking by showing me how to get there so I can see for myself.

 

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7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

However you CAN prove that it exist to my liking by showing me how to get there so I can see for myself.

@Pioneer1 I can't prove anything to your liking, that's an inside job. 

But seeing that you've successfully completed this thought exercise, however, I'm satisfied that I've  provided you direction to see AR for yourself. 

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This is just something i want to share along these lines.  About 5 years ago when i would've been about 78 years old, far past the prime of my life and at a stage when I should've been filled with a modicum of wisdom that comes with age, on a bright summer morning after taking a brief stroll around my quiet neighborhood, I ended up standing in my driveway.  There was not a soul in sight, just a few birds flying around and flowers blooming and ants crawling and a soft breeze stirring.  While standing in the drive way with my back to the sun i looked down and saw my shadow; a perfect silhouette of "me" and what spontaneously popped into my head  was that I exist, brought to this realization by  seeing what was visible when I blocked the sunshine and cast a dark outline of myself.  To me, this was a revelation and maybe even an epiphany that  took 3 quarters of a century to hit home. and confirm what i believe about the  truth being right before our eyes, just waiting to be discerned.  

Also, when the subject of the Akashic records came up here, this struck a familiar note with me  Why, I don't know, but my memory of the past sometimes fails me.  Finally, I looked back into my saved files and found a wealth of information about this subject stored there, much of which seem to speak directly to me.  I don't know how this information got there, but  it came from somewhere and I was so fascinated by what i read that I am going to embrace its message and experiment with what it suggests.  Love, Truth and Light were the guide words in this material, and, in my waning years, truth has been foremost in what i have been seeking, Now i am inspired to include Love and Light in this quest.

I also find it sobering that my keyboard doesn't seem to want to capitalize "I" and it often comes out "i" which i have been correcting, But now i think i will stop correcting it. Maybe this is the Universe's way of reminding me to keep myself in perspective when it comes to the big picture.

My health is failing and i think the Akashic files i unearthed were meant to be found by me so i can understand my purpose before i  shift into another plane.  

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Cynique I have a few parallels with your story.  I was always seeking truth. The light and the truth seemed indistinguishable or oerhaps two sides of the same coin. And now I want to embrace love but more importantly for me compassion. 

My phone sometimes will type phrases,  call people or refuse to show me the bottom of a page 

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Delano

Well if your asking for help or proof. Then motive is important.

If you were driving along and saw a man trying to push his stalled car with his family inside out of the road would you stop and help him push his family out of danger?

Or would you pull up, roll the window down, and start interrogating him and asking him what's his motive for doing so?

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@Mel Hopkins

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@Troy

Pioneer you are requesting assistance. That doesn't materially affect your life. 

Your analogy is manipulative. In that you are comparing yourself to a family in danger. And my not helping you is a moral lapse. I am not so easily used. No the burden of proof is on you to convince or persuade me to give you my time and "knowledge. "

So when someone has been disparaging and dismissive about what i do. Then feels it's my moral obligation to help then yes i want to know why. 

 

What's also interesting is that you request both proof and assistance. 

You are asking me for something, yet you won't say what your motivation is for asking. So I  have to assume that either you don't believe it is possible and you want me to prove my own delusion. Or you want to use it for personsal gain. Or like many exchanges with you it is your attempt to prove your dominance. 

You have an unwavering sense of commitment, obstinacy and self importance. However none of these points are capable of swaying me mentally , emotionally, morally, or logically. I am pretty certain you will not answer the question,  of your motivation or truthful reason for asking. 

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Well number one,
I'm requesting assistance from those QUALIFIED to assist.

But I have to find out if you're qualified and know what the hell you're doing first.

If you can't even do THAT, why should I trust that you can help me or even yourself?


If you're sick, you don't just let ANY fool  with a gold tooth in his mouth claiming to know about medicine practice on you.
You go to someone with a reputation for healing people and has PROVEN his/her skills.


Why should somebody trust you if you can't prove that you even know what you're talking about?

If you're looking for BLIND FAITH....look elsewhere.

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You have an entertaining  way of demanding things. And framing illogical statements as common sense. 

 

@Pioneer 

In this score you are blind and I have faith. So you are half wight.

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You are neither gracious nor a client. Which concludes my discussion of this topic with you. Nothing is to be gained, and nor ventured. 

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Sure there's something for you to gain!

You can learn to be more humble and honest.

Infact, you can probably start by admitting you CAN'T access the Akashic Records.
....instead of asking all types of questions and then PRETENDING to be insulted as an excuse to duck out and leave the scene.


Imagine someone going to a doctor with problem.......
But when that doctor realizes that he doesn't have the ability to solve that problem, instead of ADMITTING it and refering that patient to a specialist who CAN solve it....they accuse the patient of being rude because he didn't take his hat off before coming into the office and then kicks him out for it.

He knew he couldn't help the man anyway and was looking for ANY excuse to conceal his inabilities.

 

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On 21/05/2017 at 0:11 PM, Delano said:

You are neither gracious nor a client. Which concludes my discussion of this topic with you. Nothing is to be gained, and nor ventured. 

See above. 

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