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1 hour ago, nels said:

 

Black Americans Are Seeing Biden For Who He Is - Dr. Carol Miller Swain

 

 

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@nels IDK what's going on but people need to wake up before 

it's too late.  Every single thing that Biden has done since taking 

office has been detrimental to everybody.  

 

Biden  is a career liar, cheater, plagiarist and corrupt in general. 

He only entered politics/government so that he could line his

pockets.   

 

If you point out his son Hunter's antics, people will come to Joe's

defense and distance Joe from Hunter, but Hunter is Joe's shill. 

 

While Joe was VP, he took Hunter on trips so that they could

accept bribes and payoffs. Hunter was his go-between.

 

Anyone still praising this mess is a fool.  

 

Wake up people. We are being scammed!

 

 

 

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Mel Hopkins

Lol....if I were you I wouldn't hold my breath for his list.



Mzuri

In 2020 Black America had a choice between BEEL-ZEBUB (the prince of demons) or SATAN himself...lol.
Now which one would YOU have chosen?
The chief demon or Satan HIMSELF?


I personally didn't vote for EITHER Trump or Biden, because I didn't trust either one.

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7 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:


Which politician(s) do you suggest Black Americans get behind and support?
 

 

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You need to get behind and support whoever is going to help YOU!

And make your life better.

 

Right now, that's not Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, or any of the

other Democrats.

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:


Mzuri

In 2020 Black America had a choice between BEEL-ZEBUB (the prince of demons) or SATAN himself...lol.
Now which one would YOU have chosen?
The chief demon or Satan HIMSELF?


I personally didn't vote for EITHER Trump or Biden, because I didn't trust either one.

 

 

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@Pioneer1

 

You already know the answer so why are you asking me this?

  

I see I'm going to have to spend more time training you up so

that you will know what to do for your own self-interest.

 

Even if all the options are undesirable and your choice is the

lesser of two evils, choose the one that will do the most for you.

Not the one whose BS you fell for because you didn't like the

other one's tweets.

 

Stay tuned, more lessons are coming up.

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

 

Mzuri

Yes but WHO though?
You're telling me who NOT to vote for, but I'm asking WHO is out there that we SHOULD vote for?
 

 

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You have to decide what's best for you but you all need to 

stop being on autopilot and start thinking outside the box 

when it comes to casting your votes.  

 

Do you see the crap that Biden is trying to pull on us with 

the $600 transactions?

 

 

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2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

ol....if I were you I wouldn't hold my breath for his list.

 

Well I did have my fingers crossed.  

 

Anyway, I had to refresh my memory on the President’s record so far - I haven’t seen anything he’s done except clean up the ish left by the last administration.

 

This is what the democrats do for the first two years of their administration - especially after the GOP raids the treasury, pass laws for their cronies and reduce taxes on the wealthy.  

 

Here’s a list of President Biden’s signed executive orders.  He even issued an EO for the Human Rights crisis in Ethiopia - - 

 

Some of the bills he’s signed into law overturn 45’s harmful laws against the environment and working class. 

 

I like that he overturned 45’s Usury law and put the cap back on how much payday lenders can charge “the poors”. - those exorbitant interest rates usually hurt black communities the most.   And he also overturned a Trump law that made it easier for employers to retaliate against workers who filed EEOC claims  - that is direct win for the black community. I know because I once had to file a claim against my television station.  

 

So… it would be interesting to learn who we should be checking out next.  

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7 hours ago, Mzuri said:

Biden  is a career liar, cheater, plagiarist and corrupt in general. 

He only entered politics/government so that he could line his

pockets.   

Yes, Joe Biden has indeed repeatedly stuck his finger right in the eye(s) of black America and the country as a whole for many many decades. Until liberal black America in particular, jettisons the mainstream media, the deep state and the blame racism mentality, things are not going to get any better.

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Here in the US, folks are mainly divided into two camps politically...Democrat or Republican (GOP). 

 

On the surface it looks like the two parties have different platforms (liberal or conservative).  Yet, they share the same ideology which is the maintenance of white supremacy.

 

Both parties are juggling balls i.e. platform issues.  While folks are pre-occupied with the balls in the air, they're not watching the sleight of hand tricks happening below.

 

i've never been under the illusion that either party has ever given a d8mn about the peple.  Both parties make decisions based on what's good for business.  That is the business of maintaining white supremacy.

 

Regardless of who occupies the White House, they are two sides of the same coin.  Follow the money.

 

POTUS PJB (Papa Joe Biden) is the flip side of the same coin once occupied by Agent Orange.  Different agenda.  Same paymasters. 😎

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You're steady trashing Joe Biden and telling us how much of a racist he is, and most of us (I know I do) AGREE with that.
But I've repeatedly asked you WHO should Black folks have voted for?
WHO should Black folks support and vote for now?
...and you duck and dodge and ignore the question.

You've made your point about who Black folks should NOT vote for, but the question still remains....WHO should Black folks be voting for?



 

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WHOOO    WHOOO   ????

 

 

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4 hours ago, ProfD said:

While folks are pre-occupied with the balls in the air, they're not watching the sleight of hand tricks happening below.

 

Ok. Except I think this species sometimes wears 'white' skin.  Sometimes they may choose other skin colors to advance their agenda but calling them people, folks, or even human is a stretch. 😛
 
As you mentioned, LEGERDEMAIN only occurs in plain sight. They can't help but record in writing all of their dastardly deeds. So anyone who doesn't read is S.O.L.. because their hubris forces them to keep 'history' - I guess it's necessary for the others who join them at a later date. Anyone with excellent reading comprehension, the ability to connect the dots and detect change will always stay ahead of the curve. 

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Well I did have my fingers crossed.

So… it would be interesting to learn who we should be checking out next.  

 

The thing is....
They won't produce a list of candidates because they know every Republican on that list will be WORSE than Joe Biden...lol
 

I've been going back and forth with Black Republicans all over the internet for the past 11 months or so.
The White Republicans are USING them to harass and troll other Black folks...Democrat or not....to vex the Biden Administration and whip up support for 2024

 

They have 2 strategies.

-Either get Black folks to vote Republican.
-Or tell Black folks to stop voting at all....knowing that will make the Republicans more likely to win

 

But they know most Black folks can see the Republican party as the OPENLY racist party and they know better than to tell Black folks to vote for Trump.
That would backfire.
So they just go around waiting on anything bad to happen to Black folks and then blame Joe Biden for it.

 

A Black man is shot in St.Louis....blame Joe Biden.


A Black child is killed in a tornado in Texas....blame Joe Biden.


A Black woman dies in California during child birth....

 

 

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"See...bet yall wish ya hadn't voted for Joe Biden NOW, don't ya!"

 

 

 

 


Anything negative that happens to Black folks, these fools are grabbing it and running around harassing and ridiculing other Black folks over it as an excuse to blame the Democrats and get them to either vote Republican or don't vote at all.
 

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2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Anything negative that happens to Black folks, these fools are grabbing it and running around harassing and ridiculing other Black folks over it as an excuse to blame the Democrats and get them to either vote Republican or don't vote at all.

 

YEP! It worked in 2016 - and they even put together a documentary showing how well it worked. 

The documentary showed how they profiled black voters in key states. They identified the weak minded, the thinkers, individualists, and one other type and then convinced them not to vote. I guess even weak-minded, but engaged, social media users couldn't be persuaded to vote for Trump.

Kind of like a hypnotist can only get a subject to do something they might be inclined to do but not something you'd never do.  

 

  @Troy ,can we get a "Yep" button to go with  "like," "thanks," "laugh," "sad," and  "confused.")  I don't like everything I agree with.  

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@Mel Hopkins let me look into a "Yep" button.

 

22 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

In 2020 Black America had a choice between BEEL-ZEBUB (the prince of demons) or SATAN himself

 

ROTFLMBAO!

 

6 hours ago, ProfD said:

On the surface it looks like the two parties have different platforms (liberal or conservative).  Yet, they share the same ideology which is the maintenance of white supremacy.

 

Basically.

 

23 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Which politician(s) do you suggest Black Americans get behind and support?

 

The question is unanswerable. 

 

But, I believe Bernie Saunders could have made a real difference.  Given how easily he was cast aside by the Democratic party in favor of a Biden/Harris ticket -- who no one was excited about -- I can only assume this was because Bernie was going work for the people as opposed to the plantocracy the way Obama did. 

 

Today, perhaps for the life of the Union, it is virtually guaranteed that anyone with the wherewithal to get into the office of the presidency does not truly represent the people -- especially the Black ones.

 

The interests of the wealthy are ALWAYS taken care of, that is why wealth inequality -- even between white people -- continues to grow.

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Mel Hopkins

 

 

If they can just get Black folks NOT to vote, the Republicans feel they've done their job quite well.

 

They really don't care too much for the Black vote themselves;  because they don't want to hear any complaining from Black Republicans who may feel they are obligated to do something for them since they voted.

They really want Black folks OUT of the political picture all together.  
So just keeping Black folks out of office and unable to vote is their goal.


The Democrats aren't much better.
Which is one of the reason I'm not a Democrat today.
You get tired of constantly having to choose the LESSER of two evils.


However I would say that there are more decent, kind hearted, and socially conscious Black folks IN the Democrat party (for whatever reason they are still there) than in the Republican party.  So I tend to incline towards them more so.

But I recognize that both are actually different sides of the same coin with the same people running both camps at the very top.



 

 

 

 



Troy

The question is unanswerable. 

 

How so?

You mean he can't even provide a list of current politicians who he thinks would have been better for Black people than Joe Biden?

Then what's the point of even telling Black people NOT to vote for him then?

 

He didn't have to tell me btw...lol...because I didn't vote for either one of them.

 

 

 


 

But, I believe Bernie Saunders could have made a real difference.  Given how easily he was cast aside by the Democratic party in favor of a Biden/Harris ticket -- who no one was excited about -- I can only assume this was because Bernie was going work for the people as opposed to the plantocracy the way Obama did. 

 

Well.....I don't trust Bernie Sanders.
For a number of reasons.

 

One of the reasons I don't trust him is because he knows he won't win the Presidency but continues to run...which takes votes away from a Democrat who can.
Which makes me wonder if he's secretely working with Republicans.

 

Secondly, he's from Vermont....a nearly all White state.
How can someone who comes from a nearly all White state even KNOW about Black and Latino issues let alone have our best interests in mind?  
It's easy to PLAY Liberal and SAY Liberal things when there aren't any Black folks in your state to deal with.  But let me see how they fair when they're under your governance.

 

 

And did you see the way he flat our rejected monetary Reparations for Black people?

 

 


He didn't hold his tongue about it.
Which tells me that he can be pretty brazenly insensitive toward Black issues if he is elected to national office.

I actually AGREE with the substance of what he said.
That there are better ways to help Black people than JUST writing out a check.
But the way he said it and the fact that he doesn't support Reparations....but is considered a champion among "Progressives", is a bit disturbing.

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On 10/5/2021 at 3:15 PM, Pioneer1 said:


Which politician(s) do you suggest Black Americans get behind and support?

 

If (by chance) you're stuck in the Democrat party doldrums, then perhaps it's time to start thinking Republican, Independent or otherwise. If you study history, you'll find that it was the Democrat party ideology that drove the KKK and its influence in many respects, and much more. Setting the irrelevance of race aside, think for yourself and decide if you're open to new ideas, or are you simply accepting of rehashed failures. And remember, there are a lot of people and politicians out there who will try to make you fail. Prove them wrong with independent thinking and applied intelligence that is beyond their expectation and the norm. Politicians come a dime a dozen, but true leaders are worth their weight in gold.

7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Well.....I don't trust Bernie Sanders.

Bernie Sanders is a reckless Socialist idiot who has never ever cared about anyone but himself. If he had his way, he'd throw Jesus Christ under the bus.

14 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

...and you duck and dodge and ignore the question.

It's not my job to tell anyone who to vote for. It's their job to figure that out for themselves. I'm long past trying to drill common sense into people's heads. They're supposed to be adults, so let them use their best judgment. I've been around the block many times, and I've learned to keep the flamethrower in a safe place at the ready. If you're interested in having a mature dialogue, then I'm open to that. However, if you venture out to far on thin ice, the temperature may rise much faster than you think.

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3 hours ago, Mzuri said:

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Everyone is beginning to realize that Biden is a bad mistake.

 

Biden's Approval Rating Craters to 38%

 

 

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Correct. Unfortunately, a lot of people either can't see or don't want to acknowledge that cratering, and more. Sometimes, people have to hit their heads on the wall before they realize that the building they're in is collapsing right on top of them.

7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

If they can just get Black folks NOT to vote, the Republicans feel they've done their job quite well.

Nonsense.

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7 hours ago, nels said:

If (by chance) you're stuck in the Democrat party doldrums, then perhaps it's time to start thinking Republican, Independent or otherwise.

@Pioneer1  Yep... 😂 You were correct ... This argument is vote for republican or make sure your vote doesn't count in the presidential election.   
 

Here we go again. 

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I held the GOP precinct committeeman office for my Illinois precinct  from 2006- 2008. The TEA PARTY and Q ANON ( still in its infancy) hadn't yet infiltrated the GOP nor had the GOP gotten into bed with other countries seeking to destabilize an already shaky nation teetering on the brink.   That GOP is gone - those who vote independent mostly caucus with the democrats now... And the reason why is because the democrats still write legislative  policy and do their best to get it passed into the law.  Not sure what the government is doing - check here ... It is called the FEDERAL REGISTER  a website that you can READ for yourself to find out what's going on instead of saying "JOE BIDEN IS BAD - DEMOCRATS BAD... REPUBLICANS BAD... INDEPENDENTS BAD.   🙄

 

EVERY legislative proposal (BILL) that has become law since January 21, 2021 - has been passed by CONGRESS (GOP/DEM/IND SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES) and signed by PRESIDENT BIDEN.. SO unless you can share with the class what NEW LAW, you all hate and why...

 

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9 hours ago, nels said:

If (by chance) you're stuck in the Democrat party doldrums, then perhaps it's time to start thinking Republican, Independent or otherwise.

Facts.  The two party system is a shell game.  The Dems and GOP are playing both sides against the middle. 

 

Money runs American politics.  Check out the campaign contributions on both sides.  Billions of dollars. 

 

In national politics, voters are almost the equivalent of fans in the stands at a sporting event with two teams playing.   

 

Remember last year at the height of the pandemic and there were no fans in the stands.  They still played the games.

 

We need new political parties that have not been corrupted by special interests...money.

 

I know it won't happen in my lifetime but I'd like to see a national election with about 20 candidates for POTUS.😎

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8 hours ago, nels said:

 

If (by chance) you're stuck in the Democrat party doldrums, then perhaps it's time to start thinking Republican, Independent or otherwise. If you study history, you'll find that it was the Democrat party ideology that drove the KKK and its influence in many respects, and much more. Setting the irrelevance of race aside, think for yourself and decide if you're open to new ideas, or are you simply accepting of rehashed failures. And remember, there are a lot of people and politicians out there who will try to make you fail. Prove them wrong with independent thinking and applied intelligence that is beyond their expectation and the norm. Politicians come a dime a dozen, but true leaders are worth their weight in gold.

 

 

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I have normally voted for the best candidate, which is usually a republican, 

but not always.

 

I voted for Obama because I thought John McCain was a sorry individual, 

he ran a pathetic campaign, I was tired of hearing him talk about having 

been a P.O.W. in every speech. He was corrupt, the way he treated his

first wife was cruel, and my Husband, who is an Army veteran, had the

same criticisms about his military service as Donald Trump.  

 

We just did not like McCain.

 

Obama was different, he brought something new, he had that charisma,

and he promised to make a change.

 

When McCain suspended his campaign because of a Congressional budget 

crisis, Obama drove on and said a president must have the ability to manage 

multiple priorities.  That sealed the deal for me, and my Husband agreed.

 

When Trump announced he was running for president, I preferred Hillary.

But as the campaign season progressed, you could see that Hillary was just 

as corrupt as her husband.  She was so bad that she didn’t even realize how 

terrible her image was to decent citizens.  

 

She lost all the debates to Trump but as soon as the debates were over,

CNN and MESSNBC declared that Hillary had won, so people who did not

even watch the debates thought that Hillary won the debate.

 

Hillary made up that whole farce about Russia and Trump to win the election,

and that lie lives on today even though it has been debunked.  She had no 

room to talk when she called the public DEPLORABLES.

 

I voted for Trump because he got things done.  He didn’t just run his mouth, 

he made things happen.  Looking back at his record, he did more for people 

than any other president, ever.  People just prefer to ignore all that and bash 

him because that is what is expected and accepted.

 

I don’t understand why Blacks vote against their own self-interest time and

time again. They can always be counted on to vote for democrats to the

point where the dems don’t even bother pandering to Blacks anymore. 

 

 

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57 minutes ago, ProfD said:

We need new political parties that have not been corrupted by special insterests...money.

 

I know it won't happen in my lifetime but i'd like to see a national election with about 20 candidates for POTUS.

 

@ProfDFACT:  This happens nearly every presidential election.  In 2020, 1212 candidates registered for the US presidential candidacy. Link: https://ballotpedia.org/List_of_registered_2020_presidential_candidates

 

And if Americans were serious about voting - someone other than a democrat or republican could actually win the presidency. And we wouldn't have to amend the constitution either.   Although it takes 270 electors to become president-elect - if none of the candidates got to 270 ...then the HOUSE of REPRESENTATIVE would decide who would become president.    Link: https://history.house.gov/Institution/Electoral-College/Electoral-College/

 

The power has always been in the hands of the people.   The people simply won't participate - and allow excuses to absolve them of their civic duties.  

 

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I wrote about the Presidential electoral process in 2016. Literally, any US citizen over the age of 35 can become president - but it's up to the 163 M+ registered voters.  Link: https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/04/record-high-turnout-in-2020-general-election.html

 

COLLEGE RULES? MAYBE CONGRESS WILL DECIDE PRESIDENT IN 2016
Link: https://melhopkins.com/2016/08/04/college-rules-maybe-congress-will-decide-u-s-president-in-2016/

 

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Mel, to be clear, I want 20 candidates on the ballot.  😁

 

When I show up at the poll to cast my vote, I only two choices of POTUS unless i decide to write-in someone else.

 

28 minutes ago, Mel Hopkins said:

And if Americans were serious about voting - someone other than a democrat or republican could actually win the presidency. And we wouldn't have to amend the constitution either.   Although it takes 270 electors to become president-elect - if none of the candidates got to 270 ...then the HOUSE of REPRESENTATIVE would decide who would become president.    Link: https://history.house.gov/Institution/Electoral-College/Electoral-College/

 

The power has always been in the hands of the people.   The people simply won't participate - and allow excuses to absolve them of their civic duties.  

 

 

You're absolutely right. 

 

It starts with dismantling the two horse race.  We might not need  the electoral college either. 

 

In a free and fair election, computers are capable of counting the popular vote and declaring a winner. 😎

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20 minutes ago, ProfD said:

Mel, to be clear, I want 20 candidates on the ballot.  😁

 

 

Ok!  Yes! But that's up to the states. At least 11 presidential candidates made it on states' ballot in 2020. Check it out here  Link: https://ballotpedia.org/Presidential_candidates,_2020  My ballot here in Georgia had 4 candidates.  

 

20 minutes ago, ProfD said:

It starts with dismantling the two horse race.  We might not need  the electoral college either. 

 

In a free and fair election, computers are capable of counting the popular vote and declaring a winner. 😎

 

Unfortunately (or fortunately) it's not about dismantling the two party race it's about changing the U.S. Constitution. It would require 3/5 of the congress and 3/5 states to change this part of the constitution Established in Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, the Electoral College is the formal body which elects the President and Vice President of the United States.  

 

So yeah maybe not in our life time BUT we could definitely do the first. We the people could get at least twenty presidential candidates on each ballot. We did it in Illinois (I think they had 6 during one election)  and it happened in Georgia in 2020. 

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Mel Hopkins

 

 

Yeah, I've dealt with Negroes like this all  over the internet.
All up on social media, on facebook, on Youtube...in chat rooms and in the comment section trying to sway and confuse Black folks.

I know their strategy.
To sew doubt....indifference...CONFUSION in the minds of Black voters.
When a person is scared or confused....like a deer caught in headlights...they STAND STILL.

They know if they come RIGHT OUT and say "vote for Trump" or "vote Republican"....that will spark a debate by someone challenging them.
So they just put a seed in your mind to not vote at all.

That's good enough to to ensure that a Republican will get in the seat.

 

The only place they really didn't try this tactic TOO much with is in the California Governor's race.
If you notice, Black Republicans didn't say TOO much about Gavin Newsom outside of expressing their dislike for him.
But very few Black Republicans/Conservatives showed any support for Larry Elder...who is a Black Conservative himself and pushes all of the right-wing rhetoric that goes along with that role.

 

Why not?

Because the right-wing Masters who gives these Negroes their orders told them NOT to.
Right-wingers are RACIST..first and foremost before anything else.

 

California Governor is a VERY powerful position.
It puts you in line for the Presidency after a couple terms.
They may not like Newsome but they'd rather see a moderate and somewhat liberal leaning WHITE man stay in that position before letting a handkerchief head Coon like Larry Elder get in it, lol.

Anything might happen.....
Elders might get in that position...start feeling a little powerful and FLIP THE SCRIPT on them.  
image.jpeg.e8d723f08ef9b732624d529f17ea9e90.jpeg

"So THIS is what it feels like to be
Massa?
I get to call my own shots and not
have to dance to anybody else's
tune anymore....feels good.
Feels REALLL GOOD!"


He's liable to have an epiphany...stop cooning... and start preaching like Malcolm or something..lol
Start giving Black folks in California Reparations and letting folks out of prison in mass numbers.

These racists aren't gonna take THAT chance with putting him in a position that powerful, lol.

Republican like their negroes where they have control over them.
Put them on the internet, in social media, or on Fox News and use them to attack OTHER Blk folks to keep the chaos going....that's what Black Republicans are good for.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

nels


It's not my job to tell anyone who to vote for. It's their job to figure that out for themselves. I'm long past trying to drill common sense into people's heads. They're supposed to be adults, so let them use their best judgment. I've been around the block many times, and I've learned to keep the flamethrower in a safe place at the ready. If you're interested in having a mature dialogue, then I'm open to that. However, if you venture out to far on thin ice, the temperature may rise much faster than you think.


:rolleyes: Was there an actual CANDIDATE or POLITICIAN that you think Black people should support in all of that you just said?
 

If not...then:

 

 

Woodsy Owl (Character) - Comic Vine

 

                             WHOO ?   WHOO ?

 

 

Like Woodsy The Owl, lol


 

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8 hours ago, Mel Hopkins said:

This argument is vote for republican or make sure your vote doesn't count in the presidential election.

Well, it certainly appears (to this AALBC participant) that they've got their hooks deep in your head. One thing about the brainwashed, they can't separate the gray matter from the dirty water. If you don't understand that you've been gaslit by the Democrats, the RINOs, the Left, the CCP, the Oligarchs, the Globalists, the Mainstream Media and the like, then there's little value in trying to mature this exchange.

 

I did not resume engaging in discussions on these boards for the fun of it; I decided to see what was going on and perhaps bring some folks around to using their situational awareness skills to pay more attention to the current political and social arenas. When you don't pay attention, you don't know what you've lost until it's gone. In your case, I'll spare my fingers a few extra keystrokes on this thread.

 

P.s., Get a better (honest) results map, you're going to need it. And, if you think Joe Biden got 81 million votes and the guy can't even fill up a 7-Eleven, then I've got some prime oceanfront real estate for you in Topeka, Kansas, for sale at a discount.

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Mel Hopkins

 

 

Yeah, I've dealt with Negroes like this all  over the internet.
All up on social media, on facebook, on Youtube...in chat rooms and in the comment section trying to sway and confuse Black folks.

I know their strategy.
To sew doubt....indifference...CONFUSION in the minds of Black voters.
When a person is scared or confused....like a deer caught in headlights...they STAND STILL.

They know if they come RIGHT OUT and say "vote for Trump" or "vote Republican"....that will spark a debate by someone challenging them.
So they just put a seed in your mind to not vote at all.

That's good enough to to ensure that a Republican will get in the seat.

 

The only place they really didn't try this tactic TOO much with is in the California Governor's race.
If you notice, Black Republicans didn't say TOO much about Gavin Newsom outside of expressing their dislike for him.
But very few Black Republicans/Conservatives showed any support for Larry Elder...who is a Black Conservative himself and pushes all of the right-wing rhetoric that goes along with that role.

 

Why not?

Because the right-wing Masters who gives these Negroes their orders told them NOT to.
Right-wingers are RACIST..first and foremost before anything else.

 

California Governor is a VERY powerful position.
It puts you in line for the Presidency after a couple terms.
They may not like Newsome but they'd rather see a moderate and somewhat liberal leaning WHITE man stay in that position before letting a handkerchief head Coon like Larry Elder get in it, lol.

Anything might happen.....
Elders might get in that position...start feeling a little powerful and FLIP THE SCRIPT on them.  
image.jpeg.e8d723f08ef9b732624d529f17ea9e90.jpeg

"So THIS is what it feels like to be
Massa?
I get to call my own shots and not
have to dance to anybody else's
tune anymore....feels good.
Feels REALLL GOOD!"


He's liable to have an epiphany...stop cooning... and start preaching like Malcolm or something..lol
Start giving Black folks in California Reparations and letting folks out of prison in mass numbers.

These racists aren't gonna take THAT chance with putting him in a position that powerful, lol.

Republican like their negroes where they have control over them.
Put them on the internet, in social media, or on Fox News and use them to attack OTHER Blk folks to keep the chaos going....that's what Black Republicans are good for.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

nels


It's not my job to tell anyone who to vote for. It's their job to figure that out for themselves. I'm long past trying to drill common sense into people's heads. They're supposed to be adults, so let them use their best judgment. I've been around the block many times, and I've learned to keep the flamethrower in a safe place at the ready. If you're interested in having a mature dialogue, then I'm open to that. However, if you venture out to far on thin ice, the temperature may rise much faster than you think.


:rolleyes: Was there an actual CANDIDATE or POLITICIAN that you think Black people should support in all of that you just said?
 

If not...then:

 

 

Woodsy Owl (Character) - Comic Vine

 

                             WHOO ?   WHOO ?

 

 

Like Woodsy The Owl, lol


 

Black people should follow their own mind.

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20 minutes ago, nels said:

 

One thing about the brainwashed, they can't separate the gray matter from the dirty water. If you don't understand that you've been gaslit by the Democrats, the RINOs, the Left, the CCP, the Oligarchs, the Globalists, the Mainstream Media and the like, then there's little value in trying to mature this exchange.

 

 

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@nels

 

The brainwashed and gaslit don’t know what has happened to them so 

you should not scold and berate them.  They actually believe that Biden 

is legit and nothing you say will change their perception of this.

 

I posted about a friend of mine who says he only watches CNN.  He thinks 

he’s the hippest, coolest dude in town.  And I just look at him with pity and 

SMH.

 

Don’t let these people frustrate you.

 

 

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47 minutes ago, nels said:

Get a better (honest) results map, you're going to need it. And, if you think Joe Biden got 81 million votes and the guy can't even fill up a 7-Eleven, then I've got some prime oceanfront real estate for you in Topeka, Kansas, for sale at a discount.

This is more rhetoric.  More  than 160 million voters registered in the 2020 Presidential election - U. S. census reports the turn out supports the number of votes cast in the election - 81 million people most likely believed going to “COVID parties weren’t a good way to spend their time.  Serious voters don’t go to rallies during a pandemic.

 

What was necessary - standing in lines at polling places  My wait time was about an hour - that’s how serious we are about voting in my state.   That’s how we wrestled GA  from the man who thought it was ok to trample over united states constitutional rights - 

 

However the Saturday following the election when the electoral votes tallied over 270 -  coast to coast people start spontaneously  dancing in the streets.  So rallies for candidate JB maybe not, but  a President-Elect  JB could fill a 7 - Eleven across the country and even the world, eh? 

 

There’s nothing you’ve written , which wasn’t much, that I haven’t heard, read, or seen.  

 

I deal in facts, and results. 

 

-And you didn’t even bother to supply one fact to support your argument.  

 

Heck, you even waffled and back-tracked on your own suggestion and then tried to raise the stakes.  

 

When you started with the name-calling, you showed your hand.

 

Glad you know it’s time to fold.  #Bye

 

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nels

 

 

 If you don't understand that you've been gaslit by the Democrats, the RINOs, the Left, the CCP, the Oligarchs, the Globalists, the Mainstream Media and the like, then there's little value in trying to mature this exchange.

 

 

If you believe a BILLLIONAIRE from WALLSTREET has your best interest in mind and went to Washington D.C. to "drain the swamp"....

 

A Big Win for Donald Trump in Nevada - The New York Times

 

"I tell ya....

No one understands  working-class values like me!"

 

 

....then YOU'RE the text-book example of being gas lit.


 

 

 

 


I did not resume engaging in discussions on these boards for the fun of it

 

I know.
The White Republicans put a battery in your back and SENT you on an online mission to sway the Black community and get them to either vote Republican or not vote at all.

The question is.
How much butter did they promise to slab on those biscuits...lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mzuri


Don’t let these people frustrate you.

Don't worry, he's not frustrated.

The only time nels will be frustrated is when them White folks cut his money off...lol.

When they take his online psy-ops gig away from him and send him back to being a stock-boy up at LOWES.

  

 

Lowe's Announces Additional $80 Million Bonus To Associates And Plans To  Hire More Than 50,000 Front-Line Workers For Spring | Lowe's Corporate

"Look man...can't you read???
It says it right there on the  PACKAGE
It takes a philips OR a flathead....damn!"

 

 

.....you'll REALLY see a frustrated nels, lol.

 

 

 

 


Mel

 

 

And we won't even GET into the voter suppression and outright voter fraud of the 2016 election when Hilary got 3 million MORE popular votes than Trump but somehow he ends up winning the Electoral College????

Why does this keep happening?

 

 

 

 

Serious voters don’t go to rallies during a pandemic.

 

 

But brainwashed rednecks do.
They LOVE participating in covid-spreading events

Then go back to their jobs flipping flap-jacks at Waffle House and sneezing all over the damn place spreading the virus.

 

 

 

 

 

 

When you started with the name-calling, you showed your hand.

Glad you know it’s time to fold.  #Bye

 

 

I guess you can say his antics were the final "NEL" in the coffin...lol

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Did you all see this phony mess?

 

'Why did they build Biden a game show set with fake windows'

Republicans and critics mock Joe for his fake set with photos

of the Rose Garden

 

Critics Mock Joe For His Fake Set With Photos Of The Rose Garden

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Mel Hopkins said:

deal in facts, and results. 

Laughable. It's quite obvious that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, whatsoever. Sheer ignorance is an understatement, to say the least; don't speak to what you don't know. There is so much in the ridiculous explanation you provided that it calls into question your understanding of politics and voting, at a minimum. Even attempting to reply to the gaslit-induced response you gave would be a waste of time, and I'm certainly not going to try and convince or persuade you otherwise.

 

Joe Biden actually lost his sorry lying corrupt butt off to Donald Trump in a massive landslide and darn near every Democrat out there knows it (literally), except perhaps for you and your faithful fellow believers; keep that CNN and MSNBC channel pipeline going, folks. As a software, systems, hardware and process engineer with many many decades of experience across more than 20 business and government verticals, it amuses me that people make up their own set of facts to support their irrational arguments. I watch them crash and burn all the time.

 

Having worked for one of the largest voter registrars in the country and having an unbiased thorough understanding of exactly how clean elections at all levels (i.e., federal, state, local / municipal) work from end to end (e.g., planning, design, architecture, acquisition, procurement, staffing, vetting, vendors, ballots, tabulators, statistics, servers, networks, routers, cryptology, etc.), including the courts through which they adjudicate, the gap between what you think you know and what actually happened on November 3, 2020, is practically unimaginable. I have no problem taking heat in any forum and welcome 'real' challenges. However, when you demonstrate the logic of a scarecrow trying to take a shortcut through a brush fire, you lose your audience, your credibility., and more. Bounce back as much as you want, but you will never win this argument, at least with me.

 

Keep the gaslighting coming and don't let the door hit you on the way out.  

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

....then YOU'RE the text-book example of being gas lit.

Believe whatever you want and say whatever makes you feel better. It's good for your blood pressure.

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10 hours ago, nels said:

Having worked for one of the largest voter registrars in the country and having an unbiased thorough understanding of exactly how clean elections at all levels (i.e., federal, state, local / municipal) work from end to end (e.g., planning, design, architecture, acquisition, procurement, staffing, vetting, vendors, ballots, tabulators, statistics, servers, networks, routers, cryptology, etc.), including the courts through which they adjudicate...

With so many people having access to similar knowlege and information, it should be easier to determine whether or not "free and fair elections" have been compromised one way or another. 

 

Meanwhile, there's enough conspiracy theories to keep folks dazed and confused; debating on the internet, TV and watering holes around the country.  Politics has become a circus and magic show for adults. 😁😎

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15 hours ago, nels said:

Laughable. It's quite obvious that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, whatsoever. Sheer ignorance is an understatement, to say the least; don't speak to what you don't know. There is so much in the ridiculous explanation you provided that it calls into question your understanding of politics and voting, at a minimum. Even attempting to reply to the gaslit-induced response you gave would be a waste of time, and I'm certainly not going to try and convince or persuade you otherwise.

 

Joe Biden actually lost his sorry lying corrupt butt off to Donald Trump in a massive landslide and darn near every Democrat out there knows it (literally), except perhaps for you and your faithful fellow believers; keep that CNN and MSNBC channel pipeline going, folks. As a software, systems, hardware and process engineer with many many decades of experience across more than 20 business and government verticals, it amuses me that people make up their own set of facts to support their irrational arguments. I watch them crash and burn all the time.

 

Having worked for one of the largest voter registrars in the country and having an unbiased thorough understanding of exactly how clean elections at all levels (i.e., federal, state, local / municipal) work from end to end (e.g., planning, design, architecture, acquisition, procurement, staffing, vetting, vendors, ballots, tabulators, statistics, servers, networks, routers, cryptology, etc.), including the courts through which they adjudicate, the gap between what you think you know and what actually happened on November 3, 2020, is practically unimaginable. I have no problem taking heat in any forum and welcome 'real' challenges. However, when you demonstrate the logic of a scarecrow trying to take a shortcut through a brush fire, you lose your audience, your credibility., and more. Bounce back as much as you want, but you will never win this argument, at least with me.

 

Keep the gaslighting coming and don't let the door hit you on the way out.  

Believe whatever you want and say whatever makes you feel better. It's good for your blood pressure.

 

Read it about 5 times and STILL didn't see an actual name of a person that Black people should have voted for or should vote for today.

A lot of complaining, insults, baseless accusations, etc....but no actual NAMES for who Black people should be getting behind to support.

So the question remains to you sir:


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Biden Gaslights America!!!  

 

Biden insists the worst jobs report is a 'significant improvement'
and a sign America is 'moving forward' before he walks away

without taking questions

 

BIDEN CALLS WORST JOB REPORT "PROGRESS"

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Mzuri said:

Biden Gaslights America!!!  

 

Biden insists the worst jobs report is a 'significant improvement'
and a sign America is 'moving forward' before he walks away

without taking questions

I'm not surprised.  Between the stem cell injections and Botox shots, he has to get out of dodge before he falls asleep and/or starts melting.

 

A 35 year old person can run for POTUS.  Yet, the last two have been septuagenarian. By no means am I advocating age discrimination. 

 

I just want 20 diverse and smart candidates on the next ballot for the general election. 😎

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