Michel Montvert Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 29 minutes ago, Chevdove said: @Michel Montvert Oh! Where's your evidence to prove against my evidence!? I provided reference from WHITE people! Now you are trying to interject that I don't respect White people for being positive and worthy scholars. LOL. SEE you supremacist go again--LOL! inserting comments to suggest that some else has said something that they really did not say. I did NOT use the word GENOCIDE, but previously you tried to relay that. I carefully used the word MASSACRE! LOL. I could have used the phrase genocidal attempt, but my word 'massacre' was sufficient to relay the point that the Europeans did wipe out the Orginal Mayans--AFRICANS. You can babble on about 'me saying that primitive hominids not having YDNA'-- THERE YOU GO AGAIN, BEING A SUPREMACIST. I repeatedly responded to you in that I agree that Neanderthals had to have YDNA, because they did reproduce!!! However, they could NOT produce ANY VIABLE OFFSPRING THAT WAS MALE. The only offspring they could reproduce was either INTERSEXED or FEMALE. PERIOD!!! Neanderthals came from DENISOVANS and these 'black' hominids were completely extinct while the Neanderthals existed for a long time afterwards. MY REFERENCE--One would be the Smithsonian!!! GO CHECK IT OUT! LOL! That's bullshit I hope to present research about the White movement in ancient times. LOL! Okay, I call a truce on this because I don't agree with the NOI teaching. That Pioneer1. He puts out a lot of that belief, not me. Again, I provided you references and you've not address any of it. You speak against the late Ivan Van Sertima, and I have given you other references to support him. the 500 Nations documentary-Kevin Cosner The Son of the Morning Star [?] book by a Native American etc. LOL! I agree with you on this one. That, imo is racist garbage. There is no "supremacism" in anything I said. Apparently if I disagree with you that makes me a supremacist. For a white supremacist I must be a huge failure, because I was married to a Jew and 2 Mexicans. I don't think the Klan would approve. You don't know me, but I am minimally even connected to whites at all. The white people here in Virginia I do not see as my people, I do not really know how to talk to them. Anyway. my comments here have been in defense of American Indians. not whites. No, you are confused about Y-DNA. Neandertals produced males just fine. The problem was when they interbred with sapiens. the male offspring usually did not survive due to genetic incompatibility. That is to what you refer, I'm sure. Neandertals and sapiens split 900k years ago and so there are genetic problems with their interbreeding. Neandertals and Denisovans were on that same line which split from sapiens. They then split subsequently. More accurately. probably, would be to say that they both evolved from Homo antecessor. The sapiens line at that time was Homo bodoensis (formerly called heidelbergensis), as sapiens didn't evolve until 300k yrs ago, from what we now know. What evidence do you have for white racism in ancient times? I've never seen it. The Greeks, for example, called nearly all non-Greeks "barbarians", whether they were black, white or other. I'm sure the Greeks had a higher opinion of black Egyptians than they did of white Celts. And I've seen no evidence that the Romans gave a damn about skin color. There were blacks in the Legions. and in fact one town in England was discovered to have African DNA in nearly everyone in the town, due to retired Legionnaires who'd settled there and been absorbed by the Britons. Racism is unnatural, and to think that whites somehow are inherently racist is nonsense. Racism as we know it was developed to rationalize the abuse of non-Europeans who were just being "discovered". They had no theories of black inferiority when black Moors were oppressing them and enslaving whites. They developed those theories to justify THEIR oppression against Africans (and others). Ok let's not flame war. Ultimately we're on the same side, just in being anti-racist if nothing else. The early Olmecs originated adjacent to the Maya, in Soconusco. The Mayan calendar was developed in that time. Olmec culture can be easily traced with continuity from the Gulf Coast back to Soconusco. Good point this guy makes about Afrocentrism and Eurocentrism. But the salient point: NO genetic evidence of any but Native Americans has been found in America, specifically in the Olmec region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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