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Sara and Kola were two different personalities. Kola was a diva with a vulnerable streak; Sara was a devious wanna-be. Kola's scathing insults were always aimed at me but never at my family, and a lot of times they were tongue-in-cheek. Sara was vicious, and thought that my age was my Achilles heel. But picking on an "older" person about being old didn't work for Sara because it was an attack on all the "Madeas" so affectionately regarded in the black community. In any case, i have a thick skin. Neither one of these "cunts" bothered me because i didn't have a lot of respect for their opinions. 🤩 (I am guilty of liking to argue, and i never met a cat fight i didn't want to scratch my way into) The exchanges between Pioneer and Kalexander were just petty tit-for-tat. Nobody believed any of the things Kalexander was saying about Pioneer's family, but Pioneer played right into Kalexander's hands by giving weight to his outlandish attacks.There's absolutely nothing he can do to make Kalexander retract his words, so he should just blow him off and move on.

@Pioneer1 When that old poster Sara called Cynique a "nigger bitch," I thought that crossed a line. You were here during that time -- what did you think? Remember, this was also in the context of an ongoing, escalating, and pointless conflict. Kola Boof (before your time I believe) leveled some mighty barbs at Cynique -- nothing compared to what you are complaining about with K2. But Kola was different than Sara (@Cynique what do you think) Sara provided to be irrational and unreasonable. when I checked her she got mad, deleted all her posts, and left. I don't view you or @Kalexander2 the same way I viewed that old poster. You two seem more reasonable -- but like us all, merely human. Pioneer, K2 has already acknowledged that, "We were childish and stupid!!!" But true to your form, you have a justification and rationalization for the insults you hurled at K2. It always takes two to argue. The advice I always give to posters who DM (directly message) me to complain about some other poster (this happens more frequently than you might image) is to ignore the other poster. Interestingly, this advice is rarely taken and usually the offended poster simply leaves. While the advice is rarely taken I don't think it is bad advice. But the alternative is to shut down the "offending" person. Unless they are a straight up troll I'm not sure I've ever removed someone from these forums, and I've been running these forums for almost 20 years.

@Mel Hopkins I dunno. It is very possible @Pioneer1 read somewhere that morocco is in the middle east. I just have never heard anyone say that but to his point what is the point of debating it "Middle East," is a nonsensical term, and only means something to the imperialists who coined it. I just watched a video where Denzel Washington, who I saw on Broadway on Sunday, said; "If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed and if you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed." I was like dayam, Denzel has a radial side. I was impressed, cause all this time I thought he was just an actor.

@Chevdove More questions as to possible answers may be deduced via the tale of Cain & Abel who ignored a better life in exchange for human jealousy of his brother, or human 'survival by any means necessary,' responsible for the creation of powerful State governments that justify war and servitude for a better life. Yes, crazy as it is, matters have always been this way and; any other view is a mirage, a deliberate lie to deceive us. @Mel Hopkins: Right, and that's true for each and every media outlet in the world, especially America!! The media can no-longer feed folks BS because people do not even to be told what's happening. At all. Period. Anyone with eyes, ears, and the sanity to understand know what is happening. Thanks

Troy You're arguing with me over how stupid a term is that I didn't even create? I didn't invent the term. Like you said, White people invented the term "Middle East"....tell THEM that Egypt and Libya is in Africa and not me....lol. As far as Morocco goes....... Perhaps I AM wrong about it but I've heard it being described as Middle Eastern before regardless as to how erroneous and stupid it may SOUND. I know you don't care too much for using Wikipedia as a source but when it comes to definitions they are good at going into the history of terms and words and under "other definitions of the Middle East" we read: "Various concepts are often being paralleled to Middle East, most notably Near East, Fertile Crescent and the Levant. Near East, Levant and Fertile Crescent are geographic concepts, which refer to large sections of the modern defined Middle East, with Near East being the closest to Middle East in its geographic meaning. Due to it primarily being Arabic speaking, the Maghreb region of North Africa is sometimes included." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East Maghreb is pretty much what the Arabs called all of North Africa west of Egypt. Also, I've seen Moroccan restaurants being refered to as "Middle Eastern" foods. Like I said, I didn't invent the term so don't get mad at me man....lol. The next time CNN or ABC refers to Egypt or Libya or some other African nation as "Middle Eastern" you may want to send them and e-mail correcting them, lol. 　 　 Chevdove Actually, uhm, I absolutely remember reading somewhere that the international leagues in the Western nations did change the maps around some point in 1947 when they recarved the maps for the Jews in Europe to go back to 'the Middle East' and, I vaguely do remember that, believe it or not, yes, MOROCCO was included in on their geographical definition of 'THE MIDDLE EAST'. I think it does have something to do with the Arabs, Islam, and the muslims. yes, I think @Pioneer1 maybe right here. I just remember when I read something along those lines, I was amazed that they were defining parts of North Africa, all the way west as 'the Middle East' Thank you. I've heard people refer to Morocco and even all of North Africa as the "Middle East" because of it's Arabic culture. But like i said, I'm not fond of arguing over terms I didn't create. I love it! This so wonderfully stated. However, with respect to the 'giants' I don't believe that they were all 'this' or all 'that', or all negative or all positive. It is my belief that the "giants" spoken of in the Bible is just the terms that Caucasians used for the earlier Black races that existed in those regions before they invaded. We know that Black civilizations that were more advanced with better diet and higher knowledge lived in those regions and when the smaller and more ignorant Caucasians came into contact with these people they were intimidated and refered to them as giants. If we look at the Masai and Dinka of Kenya and Sudan we STILL find very tall well built Black men and women who probably occupied much of that region before the Caucasian races drove them out. So yes, just like you have good and bad Black people today....you had good and bad Black people back in those days. But when Caucasians came with their new religions, they had to PORTRAY them as evil and wicked and abomnible in order to have an excuse to kill them and drive them out. 　 That is the issue here, some statements are 'myth' and I believe that over the years, the sound proof to confirm history is a tool(s) that we can not use or do not possess to verify history as being totally true or not. You're absolutely correct! A myth is a SYMBOLIC STORY that is designed to conceal the truth. With the right codes you can UNLOCK that truth that the myth contains. I believe the story of Noah's ark was a MYTH that contained the TRUTH of Caucasians coming down out of the Caucasus mountains and spreading out over the region. Mr. Ararat which the Ark allegedly landed on is located in the Caucasus mountains and his children and grandchildren spreading in different directions is the same as how the Caucasians spread out from the Caucasus mountains to found various civilizations.