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Troy There is no scientific evidence that human civilizations have been here for millions of years. It depends on who's "science" you choose to believe. I don't believe much of Western science because it changes too much. The so-called educated leaders of Western society FIRST claimed that man was no longer than 6,000 years old and that humanity started with Adam. THEN when they found some old bones in Africa they kept changing the dates and going back further and further. Science is supposed to be based in truth and facts. Historical truth doesn't "change"; so if you had to change a "fact" as you received more information then it wasn't a fact to begin with.....which in my opinion makes your credibility concerning any other information you offer questionable. But I agree, Western civilization will absolutely collapse. We can debate the timeframe, but it will happen and we are seeing indications of it today. Yes sir, and I say good riddance. The faster it collapses the sooner OUR civilization rises. Del what astrological prediction are you following? Naadi Astrology, originating from among the Asiatic Black man (Dravidian) of India.

Well, I agree with what you said, partially, in that, "The Israelis today claim to be Ashkenazis and the chosen people of God. But their own Torah (Old Testament) says they are "gentiles" in those aforementioned verses You mind talking more about our journeys into the Caucasus? . I'm trying to draw a timeline to understand this better." Pioneers definition of CAUCASIAN absolutely fits today's world, but it is also completely admitted by scholars today, in that the term for White Europeans in these modern times as being CAUCASIAN stems from a movement. This term revolves around 'a racial construct', from what I can see but this term originally did not apply to White people. I think one of the best examples in this movement may from my research might be understood with a comparison to another term. What do you think about or imagine when you hear the term to refer to SOUTH AFRICANS? Today, we know that this term CAN apply to White Europeans who have been a part of South African for many decades since the Colonial times, however, the ORIGINAL SOUTH AFRICANS still exist in South Africa amongst these White 'SOUTH AFRICANS'. The origins of the White 'SOUTH AFRICANS' does NOT directly stem from all of the White Europeans intermixing 'sexually' with these Africans, but they migrated down into South Africa and dominated over the original South Africans. This modern RACIAL CONSTRUCT OF TODAY'S 'SOUTH AFRICANS' [White] would absolutely not define their origins as steming directly from sexual selection with the Black indigenous South Africans who also came to be in South Africa at a much earlier time. So, the origins of the ORIGINAL CAUCASIANS becomes relative to a certain time period in how they came to exist and then yes, intermix with White people who now are called CAUCASIANS. But as PIoneer did reply, he does not really believe this process in the way that I have explained it, however, he does contradict himself, IMO, but he won't admit it.