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Del there you go again answering questions with questions... The data is pretty clear, and stark. Better than 75% of marriages fail and an increasing number of women never get married. Again, Del, are you willing to say that the film will change the world, or even Black people, for the better? Please don't respond with another oblique question. Thanks.

i'm having a cynical reaction to how the term "God" is being bandied about in the ongoing discussion about religion and science. Some people obviously think Christianity has a monopoly on god, having based its religion on someone calling himself the son of god. Judaism says, "not so". Islam stammers "maybe". Inscrutable Oriental gurus and swamis and lamas have their own version of god in keeping with their cultures and philosophies. The ancient Greeks figured, "By Jove, we'll create mythical gods for every situation!" The Romans chimed in with a "Sounds like a great idea!" God is moreorless a generic term co-opted by groups who have turned mysterious forces into familiar objects of worship. I, like a lot of other people, posit that men with ulterior motives have personified The Universe as a Being who they have created in their own flawed image, subsequently integrating this entity into belief systems known as religions. Religions whose credos adhere to the idea that everybody is wrong but us. I say all of this to argue that God is not a religion. Mel, Troy and i have all advanced the idea that belonging to a religious denomination has nothing to do with one's profession as a scientist. Being a university founded by Christians has nothing to do with what scientific knowledge is gleaned at this place of learning. It behooves others to separate religious individuals from their secular professions. Would you consider the findings of a scientific person to be influenced by dough just because he ate bread? The Forces of Nature stand on their own. Religion didn't create them, they were simply discovered by individuals who happened to have worshiped idols. As someone who embraces the concept of god as a spirit which transcends man-made religions, the only concession I make is that science and religion are both pillars of society. Those who exercise their right to believe differently are wasting time seeking to convert me to their way of thinking. And so it goes.

@Delano was that a typo or do you really not know that the first universities predated the 1500 by several thousand years. @Pioneer1 I think part of the problem is that you too are tying science to Western civilization which is relatively new even the stuff Hippocrates knew was taken from Kemet. Science predates Christianity. Science does not start with Europeans climbing out of the Dark Ages. Part of the way you guys are talking seems to indicate a belief that it does. I guess your Western education makes this so.

@Mel Hopkins, I actually understand and agree with Guest Ben T. Mel comments. Of course I understand and agree with yours too. It is that elephant thing. You and Cynque were raised very differently than I was so your world views are different. I became an educated adult so my world view has changed. When I was a little kid, for example, I remember how excited and surprised I was to see the little Black boy in the book a Snowy Day. I had no idea a Jewish guy wrote the book -- I would not have even known what a Jew was. All I knew was that I was happy to see a little boy like me in a book. I learned to read on the lily white Dick and Jane books. Today I know that White supremacy was responsible for me not seeing Black images in books and TV. Now if you did not grow up the way I did the impact of white supremacy would be less (thought I'd still argue present). Similarly, I later discovered the great contribution of Black people and how white supremacy made it necessary for our history to be hidden. As a result I've been able to throw off the shackles of white supremacy... to a certain extent. Today, for me, the vistages of white supremacy have to do with access to networks, opportunities, and capital; which are limited as a direct result of racism. Among my peers I was one a few who went to college. Many of those that went were the first in out families to so. In many communities this is still the case in 2018!! People are more likely to have a family member in Jail than in college. The lack of access to quality education of a direct result of racism and the way we practice capitalism. I understand many successful Black are entirely unaware of communities in which these conditions exist, so it is hard for them to understand how anyone could still be adversely impacted by white supremacy. Cynique, Nat Turner's story did not get the same reaction from Black folks because white folks did not generate the same level of hype -- perhaps because a Black man would have stood to make too much money. We simply do not have the market might to make a "big" film. I just looked up the box office for Nate's film and see that it took in less than $16M. BIll Cosby show was so very important because it was both entertaining and there was a deliberate goal uplift Black people. Today this show has been pulled from syndication because of Cosby's personal life... or because another Black man stood to wield too much power.