ProfD

21 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

We've been here long enough to build hospitals, factories, and cultivate farms.

Agreed. Since I showed up on this forum, I've mentioned severally that AfroAmericans should already have a solid economic infrastructure which would include everything required to survive. Being a gross consumer and non-producer is detrimental.

21 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

The problem isn't the ABILITY of our pepole....the problem is the WILL and DESIRE.

I'm inclined to think AfroAmericans don't see the necessity of having our own sh8t.  Either way, it's a sad reality.

21 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

But that muscle bound nicca laying on the couch in a white wife-beater with a neck like Mike Tyson's and his socked pulled half-way down his feet, smoking that fake ass weed that's going to make him even MORE stupid than he already is......ain't SHIT wrong with him physically.
Laziness is MENTAL.

I don't understand why anybody enables or communicates with lazy azz men or women. I have zero bandwidth for useless people.

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Unlike most AfroAmericans whom you often have to keep repeating the same shit over and over to and often times they STILL don't "get it".....many White folks in America just automatically "understand" eachother.

Most AfroAmericans aren't hard-headed. If/when *can't get right* n8gglets are encountered, it doesn't make much sense trying to explain anything to them.

23 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

How much influence does a prisoner have over those on the outside that he can preach to them and warn them not to come in there while locked down himself?

There was a time that prisoners could get word back to the streets via phone calls and kites (letters).

23 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

PRIMARY concern should be with himself and making the rest of his life inside as comfortable as possible given his circumstances.

Most lifers are spending 23 hours in a cell and 1 hour of recreation by themselves.

The movie version of prisoners as Trustees doesn't really exist anymore.

24 minutes ago, richardmurray said:

For me, I concur that china is deemed the strongest rival to the usa in the battleground of the internet which is the source of this issue . I don't know if that is what you are saying. 

I was referring to China as a military adversary. Of course, having access to personal data on Americans helps with cyber attacks on our systems.

2 hours ago, richardmurray said:

Tiktok? complete unity

 

I wonder how much money all the usa based tech firms are giving the government officials?:) 

TikTok is majority owned by ByteDance which is a Chinese company.

As China is seen as the greatest adversary besides Russia, there's consensus among American elected officials to be in lockstep against them.

However, a number of US investors are making money from TikTok so it remains to be seen if there will truly be a USA ban of the platform if it doesn't divest Chinese interest.

53 minutes ago, richardmurray said:

So my point being, is, sadly, regardless of where the black populace is in nyc, which incudes negras- black latinos, whom I think are more anti mestizo/blanco/ while partial to mulatto latinoes. the black elected officials are very much of one particular subrace in the black race in nyc. So to functionalize your position in nyc will need a black party of governance in nyc.

I'm not totally convinced that Black or Brown Latinos truly side with FBA/ADOS.  In fact, I believe they want to replace FBA/ADOS in the populace. 

Black/Brown Latinos are infiltrating city politics.  They can fight for themselves.

I voted no.

I don't think FBA/ADOS elected officials or Black people should be putting on the cape when it comes to defending other groups of people.

The Latino community has more than enough representation throughout NYC to fight for themselves in pushing a counter narrative against the white media regarding their criminalization.

3 hours ago, Troy said:

Based upon that definition, the Civil War never ended. It just morphed. Instead of Chancellorsville, you have Charlottesville.

The civil war I'm referring to would be mass shootings, riots and insurrections happening in multiple places at the same time.

As long as white folks aren't agitated January 6th style, the status quo will remain.

We'll get the monthly mass shootings. No civil war though.

1 hour ago, Troy said:

Yeah, they got a lot of guns but who are the poor whites gonna go after and this so-called Civil War, the rich, Black people, immigrants, Democrats, the LGBTQAI2X+, who?

Whoever they have grievance with would be targets.

Again, I hope it never happens.

1 hour ago, Troy said:

I can tell y’all did not watch fortune video about Dr. West, if you had all the speculation and pondering would be unnecessary.

Watched the Forbes interview enough to know that it mentioned Dr. West has made about $15 million over 30 years. Detailed how his bread was made and lost. Running for POTUS will pull the whole portfolio out of the closet.

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

If there IS a Civil War....it will be started by poor and lower middle class Whites.

Facts. They've got the most  guns.

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

If you are in a prison.....and sentenced for life without the possibility for parole...why not become a Trustee or seek some high and privileged position inside the prison?

Life without the possibly of parole is usually given to the most serious offenders.

Instead of becoming a trustee or seeking higher privilege inside the prison those individuals should be trying to discourage others from coming there.

23 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Perhaps being a professor doesn't make one a millionaire.....although I heard depending on the University you can make over $100,000 a year plus perks....but didn't brother West author a number of books?
I think he also had a few television and radio shows.

He should still be getting royalties from those endeavors.

So many factors. It depends on how many books sold and syndication rights to any TV or radio programs.

If Dr. West isn't an in-demand public speaker, I cannot think of anything else he's done that would translate into millions of dollars. 

23 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

At any rate, I heard all kinds of jokes about Travis chasing women around his office but keeping it so low key from the persona he gives on his broadcasts.

Tavis did get caught up in some misconduct allegations and ended up having to pay PBS in their counter lawsuit. 

I don't recall Tavis being seriously linked to any women nor Puffy.

40 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Like I said, the Romans, Egyptians, Ethiopians, and other groups were able to do these things for themselves THOUSANDS of years ago.

AfroAmericans haven't had nearly as much time as those groups of people.

On the flip side, those same groups of people aren't too much better off than AfroAmericans now.

The Roman empire collapsed. Ethiopians are still feeling their country. Egypt is not the crown jewel of North Africa, southeast Asia or the Middle East.

40 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

AfroAmericans don't even make TOILET PAPER for ourselves.

If White folks stopped making toilet paper, it'll be a shitty time in America.

I'm a huge proponent that AfroAmericans should be self-sufficient.

However, there's also the belief that one doesn't have to produce something they can afford to buy. 

That's why most folks shop in grocery stores instead of growing their own food.

I know AfroAmericans can produce everything we consume if it was necessary. There's no shortage of very smart people among us.

56 minutes ago, Troy said:

The divisions in America exist, but they are not nearly as profound and extreme as the media likes to emphasize. I'd argue that the media, social media in particular instigates, exacerbates, and even initiates divisions.

Agreed. The media definitely generates a lot of money stirring up divisions and using it as source material.

Hopefully, the media won't get folks agitated to the point of grabbing their guns and causing a nationwide riot.

I remember back in 1908 when Jack Johnson beat up Jim Jeffries to win the heavyweight. It drove white folks crazy.

10 hours ago, richardmurray said:

My position is the black populace in the usa is unrelated to any other black populace in humanity, based on its scenario.

Fair enough. AfroAmerican history is unique.

10 hours ago, richardmurray said:

I think the black populace in the usa is financially better off than any other black populace in humanity, though I have to say to any who may read this, financial betterment for one doesn't mean their community is free or powerful.

AfroAmerican wealth based on consumerism is significant but it hasn't been aggregated into allowing us to exercise real power.

10 hours ago, richardmurray said:

also add @ProfD to your reply to pioneer that the usa isn't thousand of years 

Thanks. I could add that fact to my post but @Pioneer1 doesn't seem to like small numbers where hundreds are thousands and thousands are millions and millions are billions. 

8 hours ago, Troy said:

Who is the Civil War supposed to be against...

It would be similar to the insurrection. Started by folks who believe their country is being overrun by others.

8 hours ago, Troy said:

There is not gonna be a Civil War. 

I hope you're right. The country has been divided without all h8ll breaking loose.

45 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

But they see (or atleast sell) themselves as a group of professional Black people who formed an organization to look out for their own best interests in a world dominated by White racism.

I can understand why one would join an organization where they could atleast get SOME benefit, wealth, power, and prestige.

Yep. It's not uncommon for prisoners, er, people to join certain clicks, groups, organizations, etc., for a sense of power and/or protection. 

5 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Several hundred????

Good brutha.....try SEVERAL THOUSAND years behind, lol.

We aren't even doing what the Roman's were able to do.
Even they had a military, thousands of square miles of land, and a way to feed their population along with skills for major building projects.

AfroAmericans haven't been free for thousands of years.

IMO, marriage should always be a choice and not an expectation or obligation. Especially in countries where it's contractual. 

4 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

It seems that some men just TRY to make it work....I mean they try REAL HARD to make it work no matter how many times they fail.

Unfortunately, that social conditioning leads them into trying live up to an expectation. 

4 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Some men just aren't meant to be in long term or committed relationships just like some women aren't.

There's a whole lot of people living their best lives flying solo.

4 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

As far as our brother Cornel..........smart as he is and as famous...practically a household name in Black America.....I don't see how THAT brother could be struggling financially.

Intellect and fame don't always translate into a fortune. Making money requires having a product and being a salesman and having a customer base.

4 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

I wonder what Tavis Smiley is up to....lol.

I doubt that Tavis' paper has ever been in jeopardy to a woman. 

34 minutes ago, richardmurray said:

@ProfD I did say in the usa, not the whole world:) not the whole world, just the usa.

Understood.

AfroAmericans are several hundred years behind white folks in terms of wealth.

However, considering how the continent of Africa is being carved up by outsiders and same goes for other countries, Black folks have whole countries to themselves but as a group of people they aren't too much better off than AfroAmericans financially.

On 3/9/2024 at 8:19 AM, Pioneer1 said:

The reality is, most AfroAmericans don't care what's going on overthere.
They are too preoccupied with trying to live their day to day lives in an increasingly stressful society and workplace in the United States.

 

And a smaller but growing minority of AfroAmericans....as exemplified by Professor Black Truth....KNOW what's going on overthere but feel that we shouldn't focus our attention on it but on other matters more pertinent to us and our needs.

Politicians pander to AfroAmericans when it's time vote. 

Some other groups of people feel like AfroAmericans should be empathic to their issues. 

Nope.  AfroAmericans should not be lending their voices to and/or putting on the cape for any other group of people. 

None of those people has ever spoken up for or come to the rescue of AfroAmericans. 

They can save the empty rhetoric about donating to and/or joining NAACP or National Urban League, 

Yet, those same groups of people once relocated to the US will set up businesses in AfroAmerican communities.  

Let them fight their own battles and settle their own affairs. AfroAmericans should remain apathetic.

16 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

With a life long career in academics.....it would be even MORE interesting if Troy wasn't actually a MEMBER of the Boule himself....LOL.

Only brotha @Troy could confirm or deny it.  But, there's no incentive in him doing so because no one claims it.

On 3/5/2024 at 1:12 AM, Delano said:

You have that option

Surely, I could blow off my responsibilities and sit around playing piano all day. 

So, either my free will won't allow me that luxury or my conscience has placed a higher calling on my purpose.

I hope that while I still have the physical and mental capacity, the universe will absolve my responsibilities and reward me with unlimited time to indulge my passion.

Now, the question becomes if today or tomorrow, I said f8ck it all, I'm just gonna do my thing...would that be pre-determined.

I'm not surprised that Dr. Cornel West has short paper. Being an intellectual and academician doesn't translate into wealth. 

5 failed marriages suggests to me that Dr. West tried to conform to some aspect of the American Dream.

Every man isn't meant to be married to another person. Some are better off married to their vocation. Even if it means running their mouths and eating grapes like an old Greek philosopher.

I do think it's important for folks like Dr. West to get into politics. Challenges other candidates to bring their brain power to the discussion.