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No it is Not contradictory.....based on my use and understanding of the word Tangible and the way and context in which I used it in this thread. Yes One can see color so it is visible.....but you can recognize color by touch. You are entitle to your opinion.. I have used the word touch to demonstrate what context ....you trying to conflate will not change the fact that you cannot tell color by touch - be it your penis or some one else And I have clearly shown another dictionary definition which states :- capable of being perceived especially by the sense of touch I already know the answer....I cant

Jamaicans leaving Paradise to enter into Voluntary Enslavement Here is a modern day example of people signing up/volunteer to be enslaved for pitiful amount of renumeration....many having less Rights now than the ancient Hebrew Slaves of yesteryears. That how it work in that ancient society and it is still being done today under different auspices and wording Migrant workers compare working conditions to systemic slavery | Your Morning They need a place to live and food to eat and money to buy clothing....so yes - the sign up for it because it is better than what they currently have. And the promise of future employment - is why they are asking for Permanet Residency Status (socalled slaves forever) Even individuals in death camps find time and occasions to laugh and be happy....if only momentarily. Servitude is OK by me...but the translator choose to use the word slave - any idea why??? So it comes to how the translator of scripture choose to interprete Hebrew words and what is and was meant be the word slavery at the time of translation and when it was used in Hebrew. The First english translation of the bible was around the 1500.....African slavery by European started around the Mid 1400 I agree... Hence for that reason the Hebrew people had laws against kidnapping, selling and buying of Human beings....the punishment was death Exodus 21:16 New Living Translation “Kidnappers must be put to death, whether they are caught in possession of their victims or have already sold them as slaves. English Standard Version “Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death.

No not true....except for prisoners of war No slave under hebrew /Israel law can be a victimof kidnapping....if so both the buyer nd the seller may be put to death If after one signs/agrees to terms of enslavement then refuse to work...then it is the Right of him or her who purchased your service to enforce compliance They do have the choice to run away and all memebers of society are bound by law to protect their new freedom. If the persons who purchases your services is responsible for you losing a tooth they must set you free... If the enslave loses his or her life and the enslaver is at fault then......the enslaver will be punished - mostly likely put to death None of the above is true of European enslavement of Africans yes Yes it condones but does not support Not circles....trying to extricate you from your confusion of equating European barbaric enslavement of African as common to all forms of enslavement And I have shown you the same verse in another translation that shows that is not the only interpretation As well as why the translation I provided is closer to the truth...of what was meant There is no contradiction on this point....it is plain as the day is long.

I already accept that....shown means to see -I never had a problem with that. We as in every one with normal sight can see color....color is intangible - but visible My problem is that neirher you or I and most people cannot discern color be touch..... You cannot touch a rainbow...but you can see a rainbow....you can both touch and see a penis - but you cannot determine the color of a penis by touch alone. So the question is could you tell the color of a penis thats not your own by touch?

Always willing to help. Tagible as in real and not imaginary.... But Not Tangible as in touch... I have made that distinction from the start....that you cannot discern color by touch... Now you trying to conflate it will realness... Yes but can one but can one discern color....rainbows are real can you touch it??? 1 a : capable of being perceived especially by the sense of touch : palpable b : substantially real : material 2 : capable of being precisely identified or realized by the mind her grief was tangible 3 : capable of being appraised at an actual or approximate value tangible assets https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tangible#:~:text=%3A capable of being perceived especially,or realized by the mind

The definition given assumes you understand that the word "or" is every where you see comma.......if they had used the word "and" then you would be correct. real and not imaginary; able to be shown, touched, or experienced Rainbows are real and not imaginary....so they can be shown or seen Rainbows are not physical so they cannot be touched... It may help if you find the definition of tangible in its noun form It is that bad....one cannot discern color by touch - color is intangible

The reason its not adding up is because your definition of Enslavement is tied to European Enslavement of Africans. Yes that is the Law Statutes or Ordinances of Israel...everybody gets paroled And I quoted you the same verse that said differently...."to the age ye lay service upon them," Yes....50yrs is not forever for us - but it is a long time or duration.. Consider Life sentences in the USA....it is in most cases at a minimum it means 25 yrs before you are eligible for parole Who can serve 3 life senetences???....what it actually means in most cases is that you wont be eligible for parole until 75yrs Yes....the 7 yrs is for Israelites and the 50yrs is for both Israelites and non-israelites - it is often shorter than 50 yrs. but I would contend that the 7yrs is also for non-israelites as well if they choose to avail themselves of it In any case....just escape or run away and the whole society is compelled by law to aid and abet you They Jubilee applies to any and everyone who lives in the Lands of Israel or fall under their Government.

In America and most countries It is only a crime if you get caught and even then you can be found not guilty if you have money and connections

True..

I have seen Rainbows.....so yes they can be shown .. Rainbows are not tangible....just like colors

True "Black people in America were being enslaved for life, while the protections of whiteness were formalized." https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/19/magazine/history-slavery-smithsonian.html Words and their meaning change....in this case it is the name of a hair style. Names do not reflect definition.....cars called Toyota Corrola are not fertile rice patty or parts of plants petals and sex organs They were not enslaving anybody....in the sense of how we understand slavery - in particular European enslavement of Africans They were providing an opportunity.... Provisions in law are made for them to be released every 7 or 50 yrs Just as how people from all over the world seeks to be permanent residents and desire work visa in the USA. Generation after generation just means that after you die they can remain in country and work for some one else or a member of your family. The choice is theirs Same thing.... Some POWs and Prisoners are for life in the USA All slaves are release every 50 yrs(jubilee) They often ask for what you called enslavement....

I have a visceral reaction and a mixed emotion...to that word It is believe to have one of three roots Negro as in Spanish the youngest root Necro as in Dead. NGR as in God...the oldest root It is interesting to note two countries and at least one river in Africa Pays Homage to it. It is not then Surprising that The resurgence of Pan-Africans is germinating in one such country....These Pan-Africans are challenging the Pan-Africanism of ECOWAS

Yes Yes...the power dynamics involved were different Yes The Rich and Powerful Countries Extort and Intervene in poor countries....to keep them poor Yes....they also do it to stay alive and keep their families and friends alive Yes... The Western Powers engage in unfair trading practices which leaves them with inadequate amounts of Foreign Currency Reserves(USD) with which to trade or participate in the global Market place in manner so as to satisfy the needs of their peoples. The gunshot wounds are not self-inflicted but due to gunboat and bigstick diplomacy. These poor countries are not stymied by greed corruption or stupidity but mostly by Foreign Interventionist Policies....

One can see a rainbow....but one cannot touch a rainbow Yes.... Every color has its vibration and frequency. It is tangible because you can touch it or feel it...with your skin. The organ that discern color is your eyes....not your skin. It is said Some people walk on water.... The thing is can you feel color?

No...not really. The thing with words is that they tend to have more than one meaning and different meanings in different times. Here is where context and culture comes into play...of the original scribes of the Time and the many translators through out time from then to today. How do you define "Holy"? You can put your faith in scripture....whilst always remembering that scripture comes to us through the agency of Man - with all his foibles biases and agendas. True... Though that be the case the truth can still be gleamed from scripture. Yes they were Condemned to a life of permanent enslavement. "Other colonies passed similar slave codes. All slave codes made slavery a permanent condition, inherited through the mother, and defined slaves as property. Since the status of the offspring followed that of the mother, the child of a free father and a slave mother was a slave. Slaves, being property, could not own property or be a party to a contract. Given that marriage is a form of a contract, no slave marriage had any legal standing. In all of the slave codes the color line was firmly drawn, and any amount of Negro blood established the race of a person, whether enslaved or “free”, as Negro." https://www.nps.gov/ethnography/aah/aaheritage/histContextsE.htm A war was fought to free the enslaved - freeing the slave was not part of USA Slave System... Many may say chattel slavery is still here and it is still legal and constitutional. Furthermore the War against slavery still continues...so long as ideas 0f Racism/White Supremacy exist and is given value in the corridors of power.

Yes....was Texas or California a colony of the USA Yes.... In the sixties nearly the entire continent gain political....now they struggle for economic freedom - progress is sometime slow.

I agree really....looks can be deceiving. The question is can tell 0r differentiate color by touch only?

The bible states that All must be free at the Jubilee Leviticus 25:10 Contemporary English Version This fiftieth year is sacred--it is a time of freedom and of celebration when everyone will receive back their original property, and slaves will return home to their families. Thanks for those spectacles....here is what it has revealed Leviticus 25:46 Young's Literal Translation and ye have taken them for inheritance to your sons after you, to occupy for a possession; to the age ye lay service upon them, Or if you change your mind just escape to the neighbor. As shown above not all translation of that verse uses the word "forever". Now show where the vast majority slaves in the American Slavery System was not meant to remain slaves forever?

True.... When ignorance is entrenched power....it is an uphill struggle for the intelligent. No country exist in a vacuum The problem is not Dictatorship.....but Interventionism - especially through Global Marketplace Manipulation. Fleeing is the intelligent thing to do. yes Many more are better off...than before The countries that made up the USSR were never Colonize but Annexed....like unto Texas Puerto Rico Hawaii and California The dissolution of the USSR...is the Balkanization of that Union - The present Russian Federation is in opposition to any further Fractionalization. Fine Yes...if she is justly compensated for her services no harm is done - All involved profited. We must cease the day of opportunity in the form it comes and make the best of it...without losing our sovereignty.

Nothing is fair about Neo-Colonialism To be a Neo-colonialist...you must first have been a Colonizer I see where you are coming from....Will Russia and China be Exploitative? Yes....if given the opportunity or reason to. Most would probable love to go live in a capitalist country...the USA in particular. Life in Cuba and Russia is Hard Rough and Tough....That is true in China - for less and less people now Yes Yes Wars....Russia's Colonialism? It was given by Political Activist to Russia stolen from America.....balance of powers Yes There is two types of Exploitation....Use and Abuse True...I remain confident we will do when the time is right. True.... When Standing it helps to know some one has your back

Very True... If Past Behavior remains the best predictor of future behavior then.....both Russia and China have showed and proven themselves immensely fairer than the West True... They suffer from Brain Drain Cuba is one of the biggest exporters of Doctors globaly...especcially during the recent Covid pandemic. True We are our greatest threat..... Neither Russia or China wants to tangle with us. And They will only do so if their very existence is threaten True It took Russia approximately 70 yrs to move from the bottom of the Europeans nation to the 2nd most powerful country in the world...it only took China 45 yrs to move from third world country to arguable the biggest economy today

As Far as I can tell it was mainly about Nuclear Power I think they want the energy at this point.....not nuclear weaponry That is the whole idea behind deception.....make victories look miniscule and losses look catastrophic. I do not think the US is worried about codes and maybe they should be....The seem more concern with the machines that make the machines that produce chips

True...so am I So far they have Arms deals with Russia Turkey and Iran....to purchase weapons no Western country would provide them with. This new Energy deal with Russia is a game changer......could be the boost Africa's burgeoning Industrialization need. No two countries are the same.....but they share Russia as a commonality in their struggle for independence. It is true that Cuba is economical poor....Medically and Educationally it is Rich Not sure about China being Favored or Allowed

It is a contionuation of the Doctrine of Discovery and the Doctrine of Conquest.....basically Law of the Jungle - The Strong will rule over the weak... Now Codified into American Foreign Policy as the Monroe Doctrine

True.... To each his own That maybe the case....but these so called "black Pawns" may end up with nuclear power.... True and valid Hmm...so Russia could be feigning Incompetence in Ukraine Its all about Money Greed and Power True Why is it Amusing? Yes and I still am. Yes....but that is the way Cuba and China got from under the heel of the West I consider China self-suffiecent and prosperous.....do you?