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3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
frankster
Just being White European does not automatically makes one an enemy of Black AfricansHistory is best qualified to reward research.
Exactly....and it has informed us than when interest do not coincide among Europeans there in lies opportunity.
3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:If you research the history of White Europe, you won't find a lot of alliances or military help from any of them for BLACK Africa.
They may send them a sack or two of some grain to keep them from starving to death, but as far as military help....nope.
Then you do not know much about The Struggle for Independence in Africa.
3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
Look at what's going on in North Africa now with Black Africans being persecuted, enslaved, driven out into the desert to starve and dry up to death, etc...much of it outlined by the article in zeke1234's post.
....by racist Arabs and ARABIZED fellow Africans.Yes..
And who or what is the cause?
3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:What are Europeans....who are obviously more powerful and could stop it if they wished...doing about it?
Europeans are not monolithic.....today Ukraine reveals a fault line - The Emperor has no clothe.
3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:France ALONE could send a few planes and battalions of troops over to Northern Africa and check EVERY Arab/Berber nation from mistreating Black Africans...if they wished.
But they won't.
Instead they just shake their finger at those hairy beasts and say,
"Now now.....
You're being naughty boys down there!
Stop doing that to those poor people"
....with a sly grin on their face.France won't do it too much to lose.....NATO Alliance
3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:We Africans in America and or the West is way too divide(unorganized) to mount an effect support for Africa once the Elite unleashes its greed.
While this is a fact....it's a MUTABLE fact.
It's true right now....but conditions can change it, lol.I have ever hope it will and it is
3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:zeke1234
ECOWAS — the Economic Community of West African States should not 'threatened military intervention in Niger if ousted President Mohamed Bazoum is not returned to power by Aug. 6', as indicated in the article, 'African nations threaten military intervention in Niger after coup', by Leo Sands, and others. Today is August 6, and ECOWAS should leave this matter alone.
Well I'm not over there so I'm not sure EXACTLY what's happening in Niger, but from what I see.....the Arab looking President has been ran out of the nation and replaced by Black men who look more like the population they're leading.Like I've said, we can't wait on Europeans to defend our people against these racist Arabs....they're brothers/cousins.
They both think the same racist way.
If we're tired of their oppression in Africa then WE have to do it ourselves.
Perhaps Niger is just an example of this.It has revealed the traitors in ECOWAS or those who are not Pan-Africanist......but lapdogs.
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8 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
This is why I keep telling people that White folks aren't the first people on this planet to fly.
We've BEEN flying in vehicles.....for BILLIONS of years.
Not millions but BILLIONS and possibly TRILLIONS; especially when you read some of the ancient Dravidian scriptures about the ancient Vihamanas and the Beings who operate them.EGYPTIAN CIVILIZATION DECODES AERODYNAMICS | Secrets of Ancient Egypt
CHILLING MESSAGES ENCODED in Egyptian Tombs | Secrets of Ancient Egypt
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On 8/5/2023 at 6:59 PM, Pioneer1 said:
frankster
If you are anywhere in existence you are in Nature....According to YOUR definition of Nature.
But let me ask you this.....
Is there anything that you'd consider "unnatural"????
No.....not unnatural
On 8/5/2023 at 6:59 PM, Pioneer1 said:Necessity is the mother of invention.
Why would they make something they have no need of?And Creativity is the Father.
They indeed DO need it from time to time because birds often freeze to death and are attacked by other wild animals in their nests.
But because they don't have the Creativity that humans have, they don't invent it....although they need it.Humans still freeze to death...
On 8/5/2023 at 6:59 PM, Pioneer1 said:Thanks.....To my understanding all human habitations are in Nature and Made of Nature.
Yes, you have a pretty broad definition of Nature....lol.
We live in a Natural Universe.
On 8/5/2023 at 6:59 PM, Pioneer1 said:Yes it probable would...
But if humans are animals....as you say...why would it?
It is the percieved intent that is bothersome.
On 8/5/2023 at 6:59 PM, Pioneer1 said:If I have enough information to say that the out of Africa theory is true.
You do not need proof....Just enough information "beyond a reasonable doubt"
Correction: YOU don't need proof. I do.
I don't believe in so-called "theories".
I'll accept as probably or most likely being valid if they make sense and there is no better explaination; however I don't believe in them or accept them as absolute truth UNTIL solid proof comes along.
Seems to me on this point we saying the same thing using different verbage.....cool by me.
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Norman Bergrun N.A.S.A Engineer Says 7ft Black People Piloting Gigantic Cylinder Ships Around Saturn
PROJECT CAMELOT NORMAN BERGRUN RINGMAKERS OF SATURN INTERVIEW YouTube 360p...
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2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
I know what you're saying and I'm inclined to agree.Then allow me to remove your hesitations.
2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:However IDEALLY....they would actually be better off dealing with the United States because WE are here and we have the power to force the United States to treat Africa properly.....thus other Western nations in league with us would have to follow suit.
True....however
We Africans in America and or the West is way too divide(unorganized) to mount an effect support for Africa once the Elite unleashes its greed.
2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Russia and China have no such obligation.
True they do not....but.
If the Maxim "past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior" remains true then just look at our history with the West/USA/NATO, vis a vis China and Russia.
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On 8/3/2023 at 10:05 PM, ProfD said:
Bro, I can usually count on you to go hard in the paint. Don't soften up now.
Just being......real.
On 8/3/2023 at 10:05 PM, ProfD said:A trick doesn't really *need* a pimp for protection. The merchandise sells itself. She could pay for security. Escorts do it.
True
On 8/3/2023 at 10:05 PM, ProfD said:Africa shouldn't be jumping bed with China or Russia or any other country. It's worth more than sloppy seconds.
China has learnt that isolationism is not a good long term political strategy...choose your partners
On 8/3/2023 at 10:05 PM, ProfD said:China is digging Africa out like a grave. They're building and importing all types of sh8t over there and strong-arming their resources.
Yes....but unlike the West's exploitation which was a Genocidal Devastation of land and people - the Chinese are also providing Real and Immediate benefits.
On 8/3/2023 at 10:05 PM, ProfD said:Africa should become united and lock the continent down. Force other countries to do real business. Boss up.
Yes unity is good and right, regrettably we are not there yet...as a result we must choose partners that are not all Africans
On 8/3/2023 at 10:05 PM, ProfD said:Cuba was a Russian side piece for decades. Until recently, the only thing they have fo show for it is old American cars from the 1950s and flip phones.
That's not the whole story....Cuba is very instrumental in the liberation of many African Countries.
On 8/3/2023 at 10:05 PM, ProfD said:@Pioneer1, Black folks definitely need to keep their nose and mouth out of white folks business especially when they're killing each other.
White folks kill each other to practice in the event that they ever have to slaughter Black folks.
Just being White European does not automatically makes one an enemy of Black Africans
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As the situations stands today based on the History of International Relationships Africans and Africa stands a better chance with China and or Russia than with Western Nations(NATO).
I am Not saying that China or Russia are purely altruistic but history has proven them to be better working partners.
Especially since the best option ECOWAS(AU) seems divided on the Issue....and underfunded
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9 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
frankster
Where Are these inventions? Are they in Nature?You're using one of them....it's called the INTERNET.
You're most likely using another one called a phone or computer.
And unless you're sitting in the woods somewhere with your legs folded typing away on your laptop...I don't know if you're in Nature or not, LOL.
If you are anywhere in existence you are in Nature....
9 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Not all man made things are artificial....what differentiates one from the other?
Many variables.
The smart phone that you use is man-made, but unless it only LOOKS like a cell phone but contains skittles inside the box, it's most likely real and not an "artificial phone".
example of Artificial Phones
Anything you use or make is of and a part of Nature
9 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:So the level of modification of a Natural thing make it no longer Natural but artificial?
I would say so.
Although obviously I'm not the sole determiner.No Matter how you modify A part of Nature it is still a part of and made of Nature and remains in Nature.
9 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:The engineering and architectural designs of their nests makes both plumbing and electricity unnecessary for theirs needs.
The necessity of it is irrelevant.
The fact that it's not there, is.Necessity is the mother of invention.
Why would they make something they have no need of?
9 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:So humans habitations are in Nature?
For some, I would say so.
Thanks.....To my understanding all human habitations are in Nature and Made of Nature.
9 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:No.....We do belong to the Animalia kingdom
If you were walking with someone you love and a stranger walked up to them and said they looked just like an "animal"...would it bother you at all?Yes it probable would...
9 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Until better more convincing info to the contrary is discovered or made available....then it is True - Out of Africa Theory of Man.
Well, I hope you're not a judge in the court of law....lol.
You're liable to find someone guilty and give them 100 years for a crime NOBODY was around to have witnessed, simply based on the limited information you have sitting before you on your desk.
"Excuse me you're honorificship!
But I would like to officiate a scholarly CONTEST or PROTEST
of the legalistic conclusion that your magistratership arrived
at and suscribed upon my personificationhood!
To staticize (or santize depending on your level of
spiritualitiship) my vocabulary in more simplistic
terminalogy; or in other words......
I gots to get the fuck up outta here!"
....and if more "convincing" information to the contrary happens to come along....well....then you might consider reducing the sentence or letting them go.
But that's not how TRUTH is determined.
Either something HAPPENED or it DIDN'T happen.
If you weren't there to witness it then you need PROOF...not just mere "information" that supports your conclusion.
If I have enough information to say that the out of Africa theory is true.
You do not need proof....Just enough information "beyond a reasonable doubt"
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3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
frankster
If it's not still in Nature.....do tell where it is?It's in the inventions of human beings.
It may have CAME FROM Nature but it's not in the stove, in the car, in the telephone, in the house, etc....Where Are these inventions? Are they in Nature?
3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:When man modifies Natures it is artificial
Sometimes.
Not all man made things are artificial.Telephones are man made, but most of them are real and not artificial.
Not all man made things are artificial....what differentiates one from the other?
3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:....when other animals do the same or similar things its remains Natural.
Why is that?
Animals can't modify or manufacture things to the level humans can, thus what they do pretty much REMAINS in it's Natural state.
A bird can take some twigs and build a nest, but it can't wire the next for electricity or plumbing....lol.
So the level of modification of a Natural thing make it no longer Natural but artificial?
The engineering and architectural designs of their nests makes both plumbing and electricity unnecessary for theirs needs.
3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Wild as in free..
Human habitations are not in Nature?
Not sure about the "free" part, but some humans' habitations are....if they're wild.
Because some humans are wild.So humans habitations are in Nature?
3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Human are Not Animal?
No
We are Mammalian and Mammals are Animals
3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:How so?
Because we're not of their kingdom.
Not only are our bodies different but our Souls are different.No.....We do belong to the Animalia kingdom
Our bodies are different..... Yet We are all Living Things.
Many Animals Breathe Air/Oxygen and most if not all are Intelligent....So it likely our souls are same though individual and idiosyncratic.
3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:I told it because it's true.
It's not "truth"...it's theory.
It's part of the "Out of Africa Theory".Which I personally don't ascribe to.
Until better more convincing info to the contrary is discovered or made available....then it is True - Out of Africa Theory of Man.
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On 7/20/2023 at 6:36 PM, Pioneer1 said:
For those of you who believe race is ONLY a "social construct" with no genetic basis,Yes to race as a Social Construct
On 7/20/2023 at 6:36 PM, Pioneer1 said:or those of you who believe that just because a person "looks" White phenotypically....they could actually really be "Black", I have a question.....
As it is a social construct....it could be either given the expediency of the political nuances of the dominant class of the time.
On 7/20/2023 at 6:36 PM, Pioneer1 said:We've seen plenty of so-called "Black" people who could obviously pass for White but the Black community accepts them and embraces them as Black despite their appearance.
The Dominant class dictates where you fall in the so called Racial Categorization....The Oppressed has no choice in the matter
On 7/20/2023 at 6:36 PM, Pioneer1 said:Where are the White people who LOOK Black or Asian but actually are White and are recognized and embraced as fellow White people?
Such individuals will face questions from both sides...One side will be saying they are "sell outs" and the other will be the are "Honorable".
Do such individuals exist...Yes - though I would call them black according to my understanding of racial categorization which it must be understood is every changing according to politics of the time.
On 7/20/2023 at 6:36 PM, Pioneer1 said:Show me the man or woman who LOOKS Black but actually is "White" and is fully accepted as such by the White community.
Whether or not some one is white or black is dictated by the dominant class....look no further than Enrico Tarrio ex leader of the the far right Proud Boys.
On 7/20/2023 at 6:36 PM, Pioneer1 said:
"I know I may LOOK Black, but I'm really one of you guys.
I was just passing."
True.
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4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
So "awareness" determines whether or not an environment is "real" or not?Yes...and Consciousness.
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4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
franksterTo my knowledge All the material that mankind uses is from Nature...
FROM nature.
Meaning it's no longer IN nature.If it's not still in Nature.....do tell where it is?
4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Why is it not artificial?
Artificial is a "man made" imitation of something original.
When man modifies Natures it is artificial....when other animals do the same or similar things its remains Natural.
Why is that?
4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Why would you still considered it a part of Nature...
Because I consider animals in the wild and their habitat part of nature.
Wild as in free..
Human habitations are not in Nature?
4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Yes it was not made by humans....but by birds - are birds and human Animals?
Birds are, humans are not.
Human are Not Animal?
How so?
4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Truth be told we are all Africans
But that's not the truth....lol....so don't tell it.
I told it because it's true.
4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:They were Beings from outer space with superior knowledge
But you don't consider them "gods" or "real gods"?
No...Just more advance sentient Beings
4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Then you misunderstood....I was referring to the cat in schrodinger's thought experiment - not Time
Oooooh, ok....well then I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.cool
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4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
I was really coasting along with you.....until you made THIS statement, lol.
I believe a Reality is real regardless as to who is in it or not.
Participation may change the environment but not the authenticity of a given place.The authenticity or environment of the given place is not in question.....but the Awareness of it is
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3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
frankster
All these man made stuff from where does man get the material to make these artificial stuff?
Where they got the material from is im-MATERIAL....lol (pun intended).
The fact that it's man made in my opinion means it's no longer "natural".
To my knowledge All the material that mankind uses is from Nature...
Yet when a bird makes something....it remains natural
3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:When a bird or wasp make a nest is that part of nature or artificial?
It's not artificial.
Why is it not artificial?
3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:And yes, I would consider it part of nature.
Why would you still considered it a part of Nature...
3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:It was made, but not made by humans or Higher Intelligences.
Yes it was not made by humans....but by birds - are birds and human Animals?
3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:No..... in my definition you would be from and a part of Nature.
Which...structurally...makes little sense.
How can a person be FROM something and PART of it as the same time?
The word "from" implies distance and separation.
Simply you still live in that which created you....Every part of you is from and of - Nature.
Unlike a mother and child you can never be separated from Nature
3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Initially you said this idea was that of the white man now you are a believer in something you thought the white man made up....Pioneer1 who woulda thought you believe in a philosophy you thought was the white man's.
Can you provide a quote where I said that the idea of Beings coming from another planet and seeding the Earth was a "White man's" idea?
I don't remember saying that.
I quote:
as usual the Caucasian interpreters put a spin on it to make them seem like "gods who came from another planet".
3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:I believe they were Africans.....Sag-gig-ga.
And they might have been.
Not sure.
However keep in mind that Africans aren't the ONLY Black people.Truth be told we are all Africans
3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:The Idea of physical beings coming from space posing as gods....the idea is not foreign to Africans nor did they get it from white people.
Not sure what you mean "posing as gods".
Are you suggesting that Who you'd consider "real gods" didn't come from space to colonize the Earth but only beings "pretending" to be, or something?They were Beings from outer space with superior knowledge
3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:You said I posted something which I do not recollect posting they way you are presenting it....so yes Seriously.
(sigh)
In Delano's thread: How can you tell if something is true?On page 1
Posted June 4
You said:
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Maybe not, depending on what and how Time Is .......until it's found and observed it may no exist - Schrodinger's cat
Here, you clearly stated that time may NOT exist.What did I take out of context?
Then you misunderstood....I was referring to the cat in schrodinger's thought experiment - not Time
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4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
franksterTrue
In the African philosophical understanding of a Holographic Universe it is not so much a Projection but more of The same or similar process on a different scale.
A magnification?
Close enough.
4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:I personally believe that there are Realms that include most of what we have in THIS Realm but they are of much better quality and contains much more THAN this Reality.
This Reality is just a FRACTION of what many other Realities contain.
That may very well be..
4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Further, I believe that much of what we DO have in this Reality was copied from higher Realities.
But I'm not going to call it a "hologram".
Call it what you like.....it is the concept and meaning that brings understanding
4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:The Reason they are called Realities are because they are Real once one has entered a specific Reality.....but the attributes of each Reality will often differ.
True, they often differ but I'll say that a particular Reality doesn't depend on one entering it for it to be Real.
A particular Reality is Real only to those who are in it.....otherwise it remains a Potential.
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2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
frankster
Please explain your disagreement?
Well, for one.....you believe the ENTIRE Physical Universe is Nature, no?
Yes i do.
2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:I don't believe this.
fine
2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
I believe things that are man-made...artificial...(clearly a part of the Physical Universe) are NOT part of Nature.All these man made stuff from where does man get the material to make these artificial stuff?
When a bird or wasp make a nest is that part of nature or artificial?
2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:How are you not from Nature?
I don't know....lol.
Because I believe I AM from Nature.
I said, ACCORDING TO YOUR DEFINITION...I'm not "from" it....but still "apart" of it.
No..... in my definition you would be from and a part of Nature.
2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:How about aliens from outer space came to earth as gods...
I believe Advanced Beings from another Galaxy came to this planet and seeded it.
I'll refrain from using names and titles.
This tends to add to confusion and disagreement.Initially you said this idea was that of the white man now you are a believer in something you thought the white man made up....Pioneer1 who woulda thought you believe in a philosophy you thought was the white man's.
2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Africans founded Sumer/Sumeria/Shinar according to some historians....if that be the case then its African
BLACK people founded it.
Whether they came from Africa or another part of Asia, I'm not sure. However I believe they were from another part of Asia.I believe they were Africans.....Sag-gig-ga.
2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:No....That's not what we were discussing - we are discussing that you thought that white people invented the following idea...Now you are saying the Ancients from all races taught this........Thats a flip.
I quote:
"I actually want to believe that the REAL identity of the Anunnaki were the original Black men and women of that area and as usual the Caucasian interpreters put a spin on it to make them seem like "gods who came from another planet".
How is that a "flip" when I actually CLARIFIED my understanding of who I believe the Anunnaki actually were?I believe Advanced Beings came from another planet and seeded this one.
I don't believe...at this point...that the Anunnaki were these Beings.Please....I won't belabour the obvious.
2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:The general idea that they were "beings/gods from outer space" is where the similarity lies.
If you want to connect the two stories based on "similarities"....then you might as well go grab your Bible and throw Genesis in there as well.
There are "similar" stories there too.We're not looking for more stories and similarities, we're searching for the TRUTH.
The Idea of physical beings coming from space posing as gods....the idea is not foreign to Africans nor did they get it from white people.
This how you find truth....a search for commonalities and recurring themes globally and historically among many writings and artifacts old and new.
2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:If someone got their house broken into and they're looking for the suspect so they can get their valuables back-
.....they ain't trying to sit there all day listening to you run down a list of "similar" people who committed "similar" crimes.That is exactly what the do....its call modus operandi(method) - its one of methods use to find criminals
2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
"Ok, let's start with Charles Manson.
He broke into a home similar to yours but he actually killed people and...."
They want to know if you have THE SUSPECT with YOUR VALUABLES.
If not....keep searching.We can find "similar" stories all day, but they'll be mere entertainment for us as we look for THE TRUTH.
How the Criminal does what he did tells you a lot...if the criminal ties a knot in a particular way(similar) to some one having special training then a conjecture can be made as to where type of individual age and even ethnicity - its call Profiling
2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:No you did not....provide the post in context.
.....seriously bro?
You said I posted something which I do not recollect posting they way you are presenting it....so yes Seriously.
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11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
frankster
The phenomena of the Physical Universe in its entirety.Oh.
Well then, I disagree with YOUR definition of "nature".However I can answer your questions:
Please explain your disagreement?
11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Are you FROM Nature?
According to YOUR definiton of Nature, no.
I'm PHYSICAL body is not "from" Nature but STILL IN Nature.How are you not from Nature
11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Are you IN Nature?
As mentioned above....according to YOUR definition of Nature, my PHYSICAL body is in nature.
ok
11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Are you a Part of Nature?
According to YOUR definition of Nature, my PHYSICAL body is part of nature.
Ok
11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:But again, I don't agree with YOUR definition of nature.
But thanks for providing it for the sake of clarity.What is Your definition of Nature?
11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Is that what you do?
Like Giving white people credit that rightfully belongs to Africans.
Do you have an example of an idea or philosophy that CLEARLY came from Africa that I gave White people credit for?
I'm not talking about SHARED ideas of which the origins are obscure...but ideas that without a doubt were found among Africans first?
How about aliens from outer space came to earth as gods...
11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Excluding "time not existing" which we have yet to ascertained where the idea originated in this thread...and St Germaine.
All the others are African and Ancient.....And I have shown that.
So the beliefs about the Anunnaki are "African" you say????
That's funny, because I thought Anunnaki was a Sumerian term.
Africans founded Sumer/Sumeria/Shinar according to some historians....if that be the case then its African
11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Cool....so the idea of alien beings coming from another planet to earth as so called gods is neither new age or white contrary to your assertions.
No.
The ancients of ALL the races...including the Africans...taught this.What I'm questioning is the specific story of the Anunnaki as whether or not THEY were alien or actual humans mislabeled as such by White interpreters of Sumerian script.
No....That's not what we were discussing - we are discussing that you thought that white people invented the following idea...Now you are saying the Ancients from all races taught this........Thats a flip.
I quote:
"I actually want to believe that the REAL identity of the Anunnaki were the original Black men and women of that area and as usual the Caucasian interpreters put a spin on it to make them seem like "gods who came from another planet".
11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:As we just heard the same or similar story from the mouth of an African Shaman.
Did he say they were the SAME as the Anunnaki?
The general idea that they were "beings/gods from outer space" is where the similarity lies.
11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:You have yet to show where I said that.
Lol.....man, I just showed you in that cat reference.
No you did not....provide the post in context.
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11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
frankster
The way in which Reality is Created in this Physical experience is Shared in others words on some level of Consciousness it is agreed upon.It is a limitation Constructed through agreement so that Physicality can be experienced.
I too have heard that this is a "shared Reality" or "shared experience".
That we came to this Reality and agreed to some of it's conditions and circumstances, so I agree with the above statement.Cool
11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:It is now accepted that theoretically time travel is possible....if true the sequencing of time is no longer sacrosanct.
It was always known among the ancients that time travel was possible and was often practiced.
If you look at time in this world, think of a roll of film for a movie. If you want to go into the future you just speed it up and roll out further...or go backwards to and look at the clips of the past.
But again, I still believe this is BEYOND human "creation".
Humans can PARTICIPATE in it...but doesn't mean they created it.Kind of like children can play in a McDonald's playhouse...but they didn't create it.
We are Spiritual Beings having a Human Experience.....so we are not just humans.
11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:On that we will then have to agree to disagree
Well, before you agree to DISagree, consider this.....
There are multiple PEOPLE who dream, right?
So why would it be so hard for you to believe that each dreamer dreams in their own Reality?I have no issue with that.
11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Or do you believe that just like humans share THIS Reality, there's another SINGLE Reality in the dream world that all humans share?
It is possible.
11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:When you dream you usually enter multiple Realities in just ONE night.
Yes
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So why did you disagree with me earlier?I do not recall having a issue or disagreement with the idea of entering into multiple realities from the dream state.
11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Overlapping realities is being aware of Consciousness existing in two of many of its realities.
While this is highly possible and happens, what I meant by "overlapping Realities" is that from what I understand....most people don't dream about athe SAME Reality every night.
They dream about one group of multiple Realities one night....and another group of multiple Realities another night.
Sometimes they may dream about the SAME Reality on two consecutive nights or in one week or even the same night, but usually most people dream about different Realities.If you are in the dream state....then you are dreaming and in dream reality.
Dreaming about multiple realities is different from entering into a reality.
11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:As Above so below is African and has been around for thousand of years...said to be coined by Thoth an Egyptian (God)
As above so below is a basic description of a hologram
MY UNDERSTANDING (and I could be wrong) of a hologram is that it's the projected reflection and image of the original thing.One is real and authentic....the other is just an empty image or reflection.
True
In the African philosophical understanding of a Holographic Universe it is not so much a Projection but more of The same or similar process on a different scale.
11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:One of the reasons I don't ascribe to that hologram theory is that although everything in THIS Reality can be found in other Realities....what's in THIS Reality is just as real as what's found in other Realities and not a mere projection or image.
The Reason they are called Realities are because they are Real once one has entered a specific Reality.....but the attributes of each Reality will often differ.
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13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
franster
Look up all the definitions in the dictionary/encyclopedia.I have, and I'm sure they differ from YOUR definition....lol.
I remember you gave a vague description of what YOU consider nature but I didn't find it skimming through our posts.
You thought nature was "everything" or something along those lines.
If you'd just give me your definition again, I can answer your questions.
The phenomena of the Physical Universe in its entirety.
13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:The Only reference I remember is that "Time does not exist in dreams" and if it does its not the same way it does in Physical Reality.
No, the assertion that time didn't exist PERIOD was made.
Either by your or in a quote.I Do not recollect doing so.
13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Can't back away from it...lol.
Like I keep saying, we need to stay away from these nonsensical theories from White philosophers.
I am not backing away from anything I said.
Like I kept saying its not theories from white philosophers.
13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Putting out statements that merely "sound" good or deep but when you sit down and really think about them, they're crazy as hell.
Is that what you do?
Like Giving white people credit that rightfully belongs to Africans.
13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Ok so which of these are new age and which are not African?....you never said.
All of thee above.
Every belief I listed up there is "new age" and didn't come from Africa.Excluding "time not existing" which we have yet to ascertained where the idea originated in this thread...and St Germaine.
All the others are African and Ancient.....And I have shown that.
13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:The only one above I would say is New Age and European...is Saint Germaine.
Glad to come to SOME agreement...lol.
cool
13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Time is a Mental Construct....Eternal and Everlasting as in Timeless existing outside of time.....is not a New Idea and is African
But that's not the assertion.
The constant assertion in many White New Agers (and Black folks who mimic them) is that time DOES NOT exist.I have made my assertions.....Not to be confused with your misunderstandings of
New Thought philosophy and Transcendentalism both of which are white philosophies now calledNew Age all of which is built on African and Asian philosophy.13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:The Anunnaki maybe the same or similar Beings as the Nommo or Chitauli of the Dogon.
They could be, but I doubt it.
I too am familiar with Credo Mutwa the South African "shaman" and listened to many of his interviews.
Especially with David Icke.From what he says, these beings are more spiritual and closer to what many calls Extraterrestials or what a lot of people now call "Reptilians".
While according to most of the literature I've studies the Anunnaki....despite the translation of their name...were more Earth based and human like.
I actually want to believe that the REAL identity of the Anunnaki were the original Black men and women of that area and as usual the Caucasian interpreters put a spin on it to make them seem like "gods who came from another planet".
Cool....so the idea of alien beings coming from another planet to earth as so called gods is neither new age or white contrary to your assertions.
As we just heard the same or similar story from the mouth of an African Shaman.
13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:I think we were referring to either Dinosaur Bones or Schrodinger's cat
Ok, but still....you suggest that time may not exist.
You have yet to show where I said that.
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12 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
frankster
As I said earlier and I quote: Time is a Construct of the Mind(In shared Reality) in which we place events in a linear Sequence....The Past is a memory and the future a projection - both are function of the Mind
Well....
Time is a construct of "the Mind" but I'm not sure if it is the HUMAN mind that constructed it.It seems to universal and innate for some one or group of humans to "come up" with the idea of time.
The way in which Reality is Created in this Physical experience is Shared in others words on some level of Consciousness it is agreed upon.
It is a limitation Constructed through agreement so that Physicality can be experienced.
12 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Now the MEASURMENT of time....yes I agree....is a construct of the human mind.
Categorizing and labeling time into years, weeks, day, hour, minute, etc.But the linear sequencing of events (actual time) of this Reality I believe was beyond human creation.
It is now accepted that theoretically time travel is possible....if true the sequencing of time is no longer sacrosanct.
12 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Dreaming is its own reality....just as being awake is its own reality - one can access other realities from the dreaming state or the waking state.
I agree with this statement with just one caveat:
Dreaming isn't just ONE Reality but MULTIPLE Realities.
On that we will then have to agree to disagree
12 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:When you dream you usually enter multiple Realities in just ONE night.
Yes
12 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:And for most people they compile without overlapping for the most part each time you enter a dreaming session.
Overlapping realities is being aware of Consciousness existing in two of many of its realities.
12 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:True....We live in a holographic/fractal Universe.
Lol...well...this is another example of some "White man's theory" that I was talking about.
Claiming that this world or Universe is a "hologram" or "simulation".
As Above so below is African and has been around for thousand of years...said to be coined by Thoth an Egyptian (God)
As above so below is a basic description of a hologram
Please acquire the book "Stolen legacy" by G M James
Fractals are also African....see below
12 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:All 0r Most Truth are arrived at thru some sort of Ritual.
Now, I find this statement VERY interesting!How did you arrive at it?
Did you learn it from someone else or arrive at this conclusion from your own experiences and observations?A blend of both,
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10 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
frankster
I was listening to this commentary from Tariq Nasheed the other day and it made me think of you and our conversation we're having on the "g-code" some gansters allegedly had among themselves.
His commentary on it starts at the 1:16:55 mm and only lasts a few minutes-
Yep....the code status class and style all part of the gangster life.
Gangster are all classist elitist and down right hypocritical to be honest....but somehow they are fundamental to many communities - go figure.
They are people you respect but should hate...why maybe because of their daring bravado as black males in a white society that should have them running scared.
I have seen them make the man(police) back down/back up....More Huey than Malcolm - and to me as a kid on the streets that was some shit
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3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
frankster
Yes....But they can't or don't just sell this poison to any and everybody in the community.
SOME don't...but some do and don't care.
You've heard the old saying, "There's no honor among thieves".
There's a lot of truth to it.There's no real "code" among dope dealers and the street element except survival and staying alive and out of jail at all costs.
There are dudes out there who sell dope to their own mothers.True....
No honor among thieves is true....undeniable true.
The Code is real.....every rule can be broken
It's a tricky subject...but before you judge please realize the following.
The Right of Conquest, The Doctrine of Discovery and Letters of Marque Are Laws....Which Are Fundamental to European civilization - Straight up gangster
All Dynasties Emperors Kings Queens Aristocracies and Nobilities started out as gangsters.
3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:And the reason is simple....it's an underground industry so there is no real way to enforce any type of code or law that everybody has to follow.
The man who breaks the code can kill his punishers just as easily as they could try to kill him.It's Cops and Robbers on steroids.....You got dirty cops and Robin Hoods in them dere streetz.
Are They Serious? Surely They Can't Be THAT Gullible.
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True...
Yet progress was made and is still being made
No.......Lack of Black African Unity.
The persecution of Traitors is a long Traditions among mankind.....not necessarily the best action - but it does satisfy those who lust for blood.
The following video would then make you happy .....but regrettably i think it is false and misleading.... the reason i post it is how could anyone who is of a considerate heart find joy even in the suffering of the evil.
Niger Ex-Finance Minister Cries After Told To Explain Missing Money Or Face F:ring Squ@d