Cynique

The answer to your question is "no." It's like for those born black, you just have to play the hand you're dealt.

@TroyI don't know, it just seemed out of character for you to zero in on the military to criticize when there are so many other areas that not only don't offer any opportunities at all for black youth but are havens for the negative aspects of the military. You appeared almost resentful that others would defend enlisting in the service and it seemed like a personal thing. I think it was a good enlightening debate and, in my opinion, was a draw. You held your own and Chris and Xeon did a good job of stating their position. My input was just anecdotal.

Troy, I framed my responses to you the way I did because I was "mystified" by your thinking it necessary to tell us that the military leaves a lot to be desired. Everybody knows this. Nothing is perfect. And I find what you attribute my motives for pointing out the benefits of the military to, as in apt as you find my use of the words "lecture" and "despise" to describe your thoughts about this subject, - which were awash in an undercurrent of negativity. I am not a flag-waving patriot who reveres the Military because I lived through the "Good" war, which was what World War 2 was known as. I am indifferent about the military except where it concerns what it can do for those in it, as opposed to what they can do for it. In this case, my relatives just incidentally happened to be among those who capitalized off of its benefits. I'm all for trying to reform the ills of society, but I don't think there's a connection between the Military and the poor souls out there who can't find their niche in life. Ministering to them is not the responsibility of the Military, it's the responsibility of Society at large.

SMH and LOL. I rest my case. If anybody ever had any doubts about the mental stability of sarass, reading the barf of non sequiturs she stays up all night composing, dispenses all doubts. She's an embarrassment to herself.. Now, hopefully, the interesting debate about the pros and cons of the military, a discussion taking place between stable adults, can proceed without sarass' repeated attempts to prove that spraying for gnats doesn't work.

I do apologize for bringing Chris Burns into the conversation, but his story is such an inspiring one. And of course, it reinforces what I've heard from so many other guys down through the years who valued their time in the service. I am not a patriotic cheer leader for the military. I am simply viewing it from a pragmatic point of view, taking into account what veterans like Chris have said, and this includes my father, my brother, my husband, my sons and grand kids. What mystifies me, Troy, is why you feel the need to lecture us about the imperfections of the Military, presumably because you despise how it fights wars and kills people and demoralizes some of its members. So what else is new? Your being revolted by the Armed services is like saying Religion is evil and folks shouldn't join churches and invest their faith and money in greedy hypocritical leaders. Or that Education deserves a failing grade because children are not being taught effectively. Or that Banks are bad and you shouldn't put your money in them because they can't be trusted. Or that Newspapers are not reliable because they slant and sensationalize the news. Or that Government is corrupt and mistreats the common people. Or that The Law does not dispense equal justice. Or that Marriage and the Family are obsolete and should be adapted to the life as it now exists. I could go on and on, deconstructing the institutions that are the pillars of a structured society, - which unfortunately provide grist for the mill of disillusioned Idealists who want to reform the world because it is not perfect. Have at it. Armies have always been around; just like prostitution, the world's oldest profession. And these mainstays of "civilization" aren't going away. I understand that you consider all of the paragons I named as prime examples of how The Great Unwashed are exploited by The Powers That Be. BUT IT IS, WHAT IT IS. Welcome to the world as it exists - imperfect because it is the end result of flawed human beings.

@Sara LOL. Same ol, same ol. Your constant need to announce that you have outfoxed someone is a pathetic indication of what a desperate, mangy, deluded obnoxious creature you are. A big dummy so scalped by black Seminole BS, that you know nothing about current American history, and think JFK and George W. Bush were contemporaries. SMH

You don't have to "GTFOH", Chris Burns. Harry Brown started this thread on the Cynique's Corner forum of AALBC, a site run by Troy Johnson.

Come on. If white people have definitively proven their superior intellect, they'll be too smart to share their power with a select number of Blacks.

Well, I expressed my opinion; I said what you postulated sounded like a recipe for chaos and anarchy. Are you obligated to challenge my opinion or prepared to express one of your own???

I've watched this new version of Roots from the start and in my opinion it is well produced and directed and gives a very interesting slant on slavery, showing for one thing, how the slaves tried to rebel on the ships coming across the Atlantic. Snoop, who is enslaved to weed, needs to liberate himself from the mindset that wants depictions about slavery swept under the rug. Even though he's a millionaire celebrity he doesn't seem to realize that at any given time and any given place, he can be slapped down by the racism that is the hangover from slavery.

Everything about this subject is anecdotal. For every recruit who didn't benefit from basic training, there is one who did. I've never met anybody who regretted their time spent in the military. And there's no way of knowing whether homeless veterans have a negative view of their military experience or not. They may even be disappointed in themselves because they weren't able to maintain the discipline they'd been taught, And, of course, a great many homeless people are suffering from mental problems and whether they were in the military or not has nothing to do with their inability to function in a society where they are misfits. Chris' subjective generalizations are no more off-putting than injecting a bunch of data without considering extenuating circumstances. The military is an American institution. And just like all the others, is open for controversy.

The military is still considered a great opportunity by most observers. Many people have benefited from their tours of duty. Ask Chris Burns. Obviously you don't have to be in the military to be in jeopardy. Civilian life is full of dangerous jobs and situations during war and peace time

Military recruiters target high school graduates and are successful in signing them up because so many of these kids can't afford college but are college material and they are eager to take advantage of the free tuition benefit. Plus ,everybody who joins the military does not end up in combat! And not all of the officers in the services are graduates of military academies. They come from among the rank and file enlistees, many of whom are college drops-outs, and are able to pass the test that qualifies them for Officers Training School,

@Troy Most people both male and female join the military for the benefits it offers! Enlistees will have a life time of free health care via the Veterans Administration, and disability benefits for a service connected injury not to mention burial benefits which include a free headstone. (Yes, the VA has become bogged down with bureaucracy but these benefits are still in force) Many enlistees become commissioned officers, which looks very good on a resume. The "veterans preference" designation is also a perk when applying for federal jobs. GI loans are available for those who want to buy a home and, - last but not least. veterans are eligible for free tuition to go to college! History note: John Kennedy was not receiving a Purple Heart while George W. Bush was in the National Guard.There's about a 30 years age difference between them and they served during 2 different wars.

If hypothetically speaking is not an absolute, then the question is meaningless because the "almost" factor leaves a window for broad speculation open. IMO, your conditional "hypothetical" description is a receipe for chaos and anarchy.

"Discretion" is the operative word. For all you know, women and men are engaging in sex with multiple partners; You just aren't aware of it. They keep their booty calls, and friends with benefits and what goes on behind closed doors a secret. Ya think?

@Pioneer1Over centuries, there have been allegations about skeletons of babies being found on the grounds of Catholic convents all over Europe, places were the only males the nuns had contact with were priests. Sex, a primitive primary drive, transcends cultures. No matter who they are, what they are, and where they are, individuals seeking someone compatible with their sexual philosophy, can always find a like-minded partner. Legalizing polygamy as an alternate lifestyle would be a mere formality. In the real world, all humans circumvent the ethics and laws of society for their own purposes.These rules simply exist for those want to observe them because of their personal moral code. Polygamy will always be engaged in by the element among men and women who give into their sexual desires and exercise discretion. IMO

There would always be the voices of Relativism who, as a matter of intellectual discipline, would raise the argument that intelligence depends on environmental circumstances, and IQ tests only measure a person's ability to pass a written exam. Objectivity would also be a road block. For the conclusion in question to be acceptable, Whites would have to be tested by Blacks, and Blacks tested by Whites, the results of which would be so convoluted that nobody would accept the outcome. IMO

So long to a loser who is completely out of touch with reality, trapped in a narrow little world of her own making where self-worship is the religion and duplicity a way of life. Loser, indeed.

You just refuse to concede that you don't read with comprehension. Your brain is addled, And Cynique owes you no explanation as to why she's still here, Deal with it, airhead.

You just can't get over my swan song - in which I left the door open to return, can you? Time to post "the bitch is back" refrain since that seems to placate your sorry ass. LOL

I'm not whining, I'm gloating because your deluded ass got taken to the cleaners.

Who's whining now? When one is dealing with a treacherous creature like you, sarass, - an "educated" ignoramous who attempts to aggrandize herself by lying about others, then one has to slap you down and remind you of how little you amount to. You try to dish it out, sarass, and then can't take it and your attempt to wrap yourself in legitimacy is ludicrous. LOL

BTW, sociopath sara, have you found out who your daughter's daddy is yet? You know, one of the ones who turned you into a homo 'ho. Check your brother's DNA LOL