Cynique

Why shouldn't black American culture be defined by our time in after slavery?? That's the period when our unique culture came into being And our worship and speech and music are as different from Africa as they are alike. Our cuisine is certainly incompatiable with Africans. Which is why there is such a high rate of diabetes and lactose intolerance and hypertension among American blacks. And altho you continue to insist that we are all alike. Externally we are not. Even African tribes are very distinguishable from each other, ranging from Pygmies to Watusis from the blue-blacks to the amber browns, not to mention their different customs and language and predispositions. Nigeria, which is where the bulk of slaves came from have little in common with Zulus. Caucasians also different from each other in physical traits. Scandinavians look nothing like Italians. Asians are distinctly different from Blacks. And nobody said that everything was stripped from us but you choose to ignore the effects of white rape in the slave quarters. You talk as if we are not all mixed up. Who is to say what our core being is? You want to put all people of color in one box. Knock yourself out.

I appreciate your brevity, Pioneer. Revisionist history is a bitch. LOL My observations take the form of a question. As a hybrid crop, deeply rooted in American soil for the last 400 years, why do Black Americans need a make-shift African heritage? What has Afrocentrism done for Black Americans lately? How does it improve their day-to-day lives? Will it banish racism or dissipate white privilege? Will it provide jobs and good schools, or prevent the hazards of driving while black, or shooting while driving? Will it rehabilitate an addiction to the Social Media? Or energize prayers directed to an indifferent Jesus? Or does it just provide a hypenated label, and showcase those who change their names or parade around wearing "made in China" African garb or conduct classes that provide easy A's at community colleges? Yeah, yeah, yeah, "we" need to know who "we" are, and where "we" came from so "we" can take pride in what? How the slick Europeans outfoxed guileless Africans and stole all of their resources and culture. Knowledge is power but the truth is the light and it now exposes a dark continent rife with wars and disease and poverty. History is in the realm of enlightenment, but there's a difference between studying it and adopting it. between romanticizing it and putting it in perspective. Black Americans don't need a second-hand heritage. They have their own unique culture and rich negro history indigenous to their tenure in this country. They have the underground railroad and the civil rights movement, Nat Turner and Martin Luther King, Carter Woodson and Cornel West, Black Wall Street and the Harlem Renaissance , the Buffalo soldiers and Tuskegee airman, Zora and Maya, Jazz and Rap, HBCU scholars and NBA stars, and much much more. And it's not as if ebony Nigerians or tawny Egyptians offer more than a passing nod to the step children of Mother Africa As Negro history month draws to a close, its a good time to appreciate the uniqueness of America's black experience as opposed to the aggrandization of Africa's influence.

You're so out of it, you can't even remember the instructions you give to yourself; that along with those pesky mood swings,make you even more mentally unbalanced. Poor thing.

You're so out of it, you keep making references to anti-semitism which doesn't apply to anything I've written. Did my talk about coochies excite you?? And when is your next AA meeting? Right after the appointment with your shrink?

Thank you. Troy However, when attacked so foully, viciously, by Sara with such filthy, explicit sexual rants and perverted talk, not to mention ageism, there comes a time when one must kick the fox back into the hole and, finally, ignore it. You did well to delete the posts. It was a chilling look into the mind of a mentally disturbed woman who has lost touch with reality.

Makes me no difference. You can't delete what I put on the mind of whom I was arguing with and judging from the erratic vitriolic responses, I was proved right. So in the spirit of political correctness, feel free to resume the prolonged discussions about percentages and traffic, and the laments about Facebook and YouTube all to the enthusiasm of the intended demograph. Or - re-hash what Pioneer discusses in his post. Back to hiberation for me. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Age is just a number. 80 is the new 60. Have you checked out 91 year old Cicely Tyson? Talk about black not crackin! I wanna be just like her when I grow up.

LOL OK. Sorry 'bout that. I need a road map to navigate through all of these different quotes. Now, I'm done.

LOL. You are denial in the funky flesh. How's that fox hole workin out for ya, Numb Skull? Still stuck?

This is how it all went down. Who is the liar here? Not me. Where is the post where I said the word Bronzeville instead of Chicago? Why didn't you follow your usual of procedure of cutting and pasting when commenting on my first post. Then I couldn't have edited it because you'd have the original version which I couldn't touch. Consequently this phantom version where I supposedly said Bronzeville instead of Chicago is nowhere to be found because it only exists in yours twisted mind and in your desperation to not look like the fool that you are, you whine that I went back and edited my first post. In my response to your first post, I justified my use of the word "hood" by suggesting that it is interchangeable with the word "ghetto" where the children of the mothers who Hilliary and Sandra Bland's met with, were killed. I also made reference to the "mean streets" of Chiraq. Finally I reiterated that I never used the term Bronzeville! Which I didn't! Your distorted version was cobbled together by doing what you do best. Cherry picking and substituting lies for fact.

Courageous as in crazy. A stone nut-case.

OK, this is all i can tell you to do. An AKA by the name of Jean Durades, maiden name "Pierce", was Clarice Davis' soror down at Illinois during the time she was elected Home Coming queen and she may have some inside memories to share about this event because I was just a pledge during this time. Me and another Illinois classmate suggest that you go to Jean Durades' FaceBook page and make your inquiries. She's located in Minnesota You may mention the name of our mutual classmate, Mildred Carter Dawe, when making your inquiries. Again, be advised that there is a lot of info about Clarice on Google as well as in the U of I archives. Good Luck!

I'll get back to you. I'm going to try and get in touch with one of my old school mates who could probably put you in touch with one of the surviving Gamma sorors of Clarice, She could maybe fill you in on more details. i was a member of the Ivy Leaf group at the time, and Clarice didn't not live in the AKA house with us. She was a rather artsy diva as I recall and might've been a music major because she had an operatic singing voice. She was chosen because she was very attractive and had a lot of flair. This was 65 years ago and what i recounted in my herstory story is pretty much all I remember. Did you google her name? Do this because this will provide a picture of her and her court.

LOL Nobody but YOU and all of your delusional obstinacy knows any such thing. You never respond to anything without posting the passage you are responding to. Yet you conveniently neglected to do this with my original post, so you could claim that I said Bronzeville instead of Chicago. But you have no proof of your lie; all you have is your convoluted explanation as to why Chicago appears in my post and not Bronzeville. And this is just you being you and your devious psychotic self. You're really a piece of work and a lying one at that.. How do you know Sandra Bland's mother doesn't know anything about Chicago? There 's a good chance she's from Chicago as are so many of those living in its suburbs. Plus she was a part of a selected group travelling with Hilliary so she didn't have to know anything about the city. First you were losing what little sanity you have over the idea that I am trying to be an expert on Chicago now you're slyly changing your focus from me to her not being a Chicagoan. SMH. I have my doubts as to whether YOU currently live in Chicago.

So, Pioneer, you don't think there are any black psychologists around doing studies about black boys and the effect society has on them? That disqualifies you on the grounds of denying the presence of black professionals in the field of Psychology. And as usual you have taken Troy's anecdotal experience as proof that when all teachers tell boys to sit up straight they mean for them to press their legs together tightly. But that was just his individual experience. You have no proof that your detailed description of how all teachers expect black boys to behave is true. It is a generalization that doesn't apply to all teachers; you also seem to overlook that there are male teachers who frown upon boys slouching in their seats. This whole discussion is just an exercise in opinion-expressing from which no definitive conclusions can be drawn. I'm done.

Just keeping telling yourself that as you skulk around in your fox den, unable to get out. Pitiful .

Tsk-Tsk is that our paragon of propriety calling names?? If anybody knows about lying , it's YOU. You are totally incapable of acknowledging that you have ever in your life been wrong about anything, and you'll concoct any scenario it takes to substantiate your aversion to the truth. Think about it. As I said, I never use the term Bronzeville, because it is a local one. People from all over the country come here and while they know about Chi-Town and Chiraq, they don't know a damn about Bronzeville, and neither do I, which is why I never use the term. I'm not sure what area it covers. But you were so eager to avail us of your store of knowledge about Chicago that you injected it into the discussion so you could discredit me as being a non Chicagoan, something else I don't give a damn about. Then you come up with some crazy-assed rationale reeking with the paranoia that you're afflicted with along with an obsession to "out fox" people. You're a looney tune if there ever was one. I repeat. You give all indications of being unable to stay away from this site because your dysfunctional personality has isolated you from those you know and left you lonely and frustrated. But stick around, JAWS. I enjoy watching a sociopath in action. ROTFLOL

I've always heard that cop stands for Constable On Patrol. (Constable is an old term for a law officer) There are many explanations for what this acronym stands for. In England, they say it has to do with the Bobbies having copper buttons on their uniform.

"You and me, BAE. Me, and you. Mo' money, mo' money, mo' money.

Puleeze. You're outta your mind. This is my original post in which I said nothing about Bronzeville, which you were so quick to inject into the discussion so you could inform us that it is an affluent community. I always edit my posts to correct typos and misspellings, etc., but I did not do what you so desperately accused me of doing so you could convince yourself that you "outfoxed" me. I never ever use the term Bronzeville which is an old designation that just started reappearing in the 90s and never made it into my vocabulary. It's all the "South Side" to me. Nice try. But no cigar. You remind me of JAWS. Just when we think it's safe to go back into the water, you and your supercilious self surface, ready to cherry pick and misrepresent and pat yourself on the back. I guess if it wasn't for this site and your vibrator, you'd have no life at all. Poor thing. LMAO

Politics make strange bedfellows something that seems to be lost on your imagination as you, in your usual mode of selective thinking, fail to draw obvious conclusions. Sandra's mother accompanied Hiliary when she met with several mothers whose kids had been killed on the means streets of Chiraq. It was undoubtedly all staged so Hillary could shore up her "black lives matter" image in order to generate votes. I guess it never occurred to you that people have been known to drive to Chicago from Naperville, or that the hood is a generic term for the ghetto. Nobody said anything about Bronzeville. Now go back to ruminating about the non-existent wall, and wallowing in your status as a groupie of the black literati of yore. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

"Dialect"? Can you hear what we write?

Hummm. I thought what Mel and Chris had to say added another dimension to the conversation that was rather stimulating. I wasn't aware that stimulation had to have a "cause or purpose"; I consider it a reaction.

Well, Chasitie /Mary Sunshine, you don't dictate the direction posts take on this site. The spontaneous input from others is what makes things stimulating here. If you don't want others to participate in your self-serving posts whose only function seems to be to solicit support for your project, then restrict your posts to your personal web site. This forum is all about exchanging ideas, and it helps to have a sense of humor.