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Listen to the MADNESS coming out of this dude's mouth and how he giggles and wiggles around like a disturbed little child while talking...... Now keep in mind that Daylyt was a MARRIED man when he said all of this and as the interview progressed it becomes fairly obvious that he is NOT gay. But the question is what would make an adult straight man even MAKE a statement like this, even in jest? He was clearly provoked into it by Vlad......a Ukrainian born Caucasian who has gotten rich off of interviewing and exploiting AfroAmerican Hiphop artists. But the real question is why Daylyt and other AfroAmerican artists are so easily manipulated, influenced, and provoked into making statements that most people of average intelligence around the world see as degenerate and humiliating. When you have the IQ of a child, you fail to recognize what others in your environment can plainly see.

Here's a few things to daydream over if you're enjoying a nice quiet Sunday afternoon....... If Malik Shabazz hadn't been assassinated in 1965 there would have been no Black Panther Party. The Black Panther Party was formed in 1966 because of the VOID left after his armed OAAU organization disintegrated following his death a year earlier. Had he lived, IT would have been the premiere armed Black organization and there probably wouldn't have been a need for the Panthers. If there had been no Black Panther party there would have been no Bloods and Crips. You had a lot of small neighborhood gangs around the nation but none as massive because these California street gangs came directly from ex-Panther members and associates who....after the police started breaking up the organization.....later turned back to the streets they originally came from but with a knowledge of guns and violence and a more militant attitude. Plus they had a larger supply of drugs to distribute than before. If there had been no Bloods and Crips there probably would be no Gangsta Rap as we know it today! Although you had some rappers like Slick Rick and the Geto Boys rapping about crime, the vast majority of rap was about banging women and partying and increased social consciousness. NWA and other rappers who grew up in Los Angeles began rapping about the gangsta life of Southern California and Caucasians noticed it and began promoting IT in opposition to the Black consciousness rap of the East Coast. They paid rappers millions of dollars to do this and rappers across the nation began emulating and trying to out do eachother over the image of who's the "hardest" and most "gangsta". Violence has existed in the Black community for decades but if Gangsta Rap hadn't been invented: Think of how many AfroAmericans who have been killed by others heavily influenced by Gangsta rap over the past 30 years.....would still be alive today. See the reverse domino effect?

Well, I'm sure Hiphop would be alive and well but there would be OTHER newer even more popular music genres around today, why? Because the INTELLECT of AfroAmericans would be so much more mature and developed today had those two still lived. Music, art, dance, and other great works continuously flow out of people with high intelligence and creativity. If you notice...... From the 1920s to the 1980s every decade brought a different genre of music from AfroAmericans. But AfroAmerican musical creativity pretty much stopped at Rap in the 1980s and has remained there since. Why? For the same reasons I mentioned in another thread about why many AfroAmericans can no longer hold an intelligent 5 minute conversation with you about politics or current events. If you want to have a good discussion you better go find yourself a Caucasian.....lol. A Negro will just stand there looking at you (or ask you for some money) with some red-eyes hoping you shut up and leave him alone so he can keep on going to the liquor store and get his zigzags before it closes...lol. "Nicca what da HELL you stop me fa'.... Cain't you see I gotz ta GIT somewhere??" But my point is, while there would have been much more types of music....probably NO Gangsta rap or Hooker rap. Malik would have shut that shit down QUICKLY. There probably wouldn't have been the drugs and urban decay to even RAP about! People often say that Malik and Martin would have been Conservative had they lived longer. That's not correct. They would have remained steady and stable on their moral platform and so would the rest of AfroAmerica, but it wouldn't have been considered Liberal or Conservative. They would have had another name for it like "Black Traditionalist" or something similar. But the arguments over abortion, transgenderism, Marxism, ect....would have been held primarily among Caucasians and few of us would have gotten involved because our political ideaologies would have pretty much been united. During Segregation, Caucasians were the ones divided into two basic sides.....while WE were pretty much united. But after so-called "Integration", Caucasians remained divide in the same two sides....while the AfroAmerican community FRACTURED into a thousand pieces over politics, religion, music, etc. Ain't it funny how "Integration" made AfroAmericans MORE divided?

I'm not sure about James Baldwin but if Malik or Martin were still alive today or lived just 20 more years PAST their assassination dates not only would they be MORE popular today than Cardi or Kanye....Cardi and Kanye as the personality figures they are probably wouldn't EXIST! With their mentorship and guidance, the intellectual and socio-political maturity of AfroAmericans would have been so much more sophisticated as compared to what it is today that they wouldn't have tolerated Gangsta-rap, Mumble-rap, and other silly self-destructive forms of AfroAmerican culture. Which is why the Caucasian power structure wanted to get rid of them. Jesse Jackson will go out on stage with and shake hands with Gangsta-rappers and tolerate their foolishness. I seriously doubt that Malik Shabazz would have. He probably would have organized a group of concerned brothers to go from concert to concert confronting them and shutting them down.

I've known about Stanley Crouch for a long time. I saw him on BET doing various panels and interviews but didn't care too much for his commentary.

I wonder is that a picture of him when he was younger. Doesn't really look anything like him.

There are a lot of articles that tell you how many AfroAmerican homes and how much AfroAmerican wealth was lost under the Obama Administration but I can't find any that says they lost MORE wealth under his administration than any other time. But I would think that would go without saying given the role of inflation. From the late 70s right up to the Obama Era of 2008 the economic situation for AfroAmericans steadily deteriorated but a LOT of factors were involved in that deterioration and it was a 30 year time frame so the impact was more diluted. But 2008 to 2013 was an Earthquake in terms of loss of homeownership and overall wealth for many AfroAmericans.

Once again, we got ANOTHER Caucasian woman who infiltrated an AfroAmerican organization calling herself "Black" and assumed a leadership position because the silly Negroes who followed her didn't have enough sense to FIND OUT who she really was............... Local organizer admits she lied about her race Satchuel Cole, known for years as a local social justice activist, apologized in a Facebook post for lying about being Black. Cole, who uses they/them pronouns, was associated with Indy SURJ and Indy10 Black Lives Matter. They were a frequent leader at protests for racial justice, as well as LGBTQ+ and women's rights. "I have taken up space as a Black person while knowing I am white," they wrote Sept. 17. "I have used Blackness when it was not mine to use. I have asked for support and energy as a Black person." Cole's apology followed an expose about their family published on BlackIndyLIVE.com. Cole was born Jennifer Lynn Benton and changed their name in 2010. Cole became one of a growing number of white women who lied about being Black. Jessica Krug, as associate professor at George Washington University, wrote a blog post about pretending to be Black for years. Then there was Rachel Dolezal, who stepped down from her post at Spokane's NAACP in 2015 after claiming to be Black. http://www.indianapolisrecorder.com/recorder_headlines/article_8729b64a-f9e0-11ea-bb67-ef85a062a5d4.html

I'm not sure if the vast majority of Caucasians of ANY socio-economic background really want change. I think the VAST majority of them want things to remain the same because things were working for them. If you look at the so-called "shutdowns" that were happening in various spots around the nation....while most AfroAmericans didn't like them most Caucasians HATED IT. They want desperately to open up the schools, open up the public spaces and return NORMALCY.....because when things were "normal" they were thriving as compared to most of our people. Returning back to normal for many AfroAmericans means just more incarceration, poverty, and police brutality. I mentioned before on another thread that one of the worse things that could happen in this nation is for Biden and Harris to get in office and STABILIZE things....returning them back to "normal" or the way they've been for the past 200 years. Obama got in office....cleaned up the mess that Bush made....and AfroAmericans ended up losing more property and wealth in 8 years than in any time in the HISTORY of this nation.

The escalation in crime in New York is a DIRECT result of the purposeful and pretty much publicly announced refusal of the NYPD to do their jobs. The police unions and racists on the force were so pissed off with those who were challenging them and holding them accountable for their brutality and injustices early on in the summer that they OPENLY conspired to not only allow criminals to do their thing uninhibited but BROADCASTED that they would do so on numerous media outlets over and over again to seemingly give criminals a GREEN LIGHT. If you remember the riots that followed George Floyd's death only lasted a couple weeks and there were CALLS to defund the NYPD but those things take months just to discuss let alone implement. So far, the amount of funding and number of cops HASN'T CHANGED at all yet, so how does one explain the spike in crime that has been occurring for the past couple of months?

I agree. It's neither a sign of genius NOR normal. Lol, so I wonder what else it could be a sign of?

Troy Honestly, I think most AfroAmericans are just JADED with the system and have lost complete confidence in it....that's why they aren't voting. It's not about Biden or Sanders or even Hilary. Hell, if Obama was running again I don't think most AFROAMERICANS would even vote for him knowing what they now know about him. Our people are ready for a massive change that won't be achieved through casting a ballot.

Troy In Florida ex-felons were permanently stripped of their right to vote. I think that is not only unfair but absolutely terrible not to mention COMPLETELY un-Constitutional. I used to argue that people who were actually IN PRISON should be able to vote too, but it was brought to my attention that when you are actually IN prison you are no longer considered a "citizen" of the United States. I'm not sure if that's true or not but certainly when you GET OUT you should be. The only way to LEGALLY deny someone the right to vote or own a gun is if they are NOT a citizen....where the Constitution wouldn't apply to them. I don't understand the methods that judges and the system use to justify taking those rights away from U.S. citizens who are NOT incarcerated and no lawyer can explain this. It's clearly an attempt to disenfranchise large segments of the population but my question is how are they legally being able to get away with this from state to state and why haven't the AfroAmerican politicians around the nation demanded a repeal of such un-Constitutional laws that are clearly aimed at targeting and disenfranchising the AfroAmerican community. Del The signers of the declaration of independence were all men of means except for a few. Except for a few??? I thought they were ALL wealthy to various degrees, lol. You mean they were allowing a bunch of broke ass nig dudes to scribble their names down on the Declaration of Independence?

Troy Are you SURE you don't know Maria? Maybe an old forgotten Puerto Rican girlfriend from childhood who finally caught up with you????? Both Biden and Trump are old racist Caucasian men who are power hungry and are good examples of what's wrong with Washington and the United States political system in general. However, as silly as it may seem there is something that Biden has that Trump doesn't...Kamala Harris. As shallow as it may seem, a lot of men of all races and backgrounds would vote for Biden/Harris just to see more of HER all over the place for the next 4 years. I don't think she's using her sex appeal NEARLY as effectively as she could be.

Now, is that a sign of being GENIUS or NORMAL ?

Del RULES and STANDARDS....though they often overlap....are different from each other. I thought I knew what BOTH terms meant, but if you think you have better definitions then by all means enlighten.

The Constitution was designed BY Caucasian men FOR Caucasian men. The rest of the federal, state, and local laws were designed for others. EVERY municipality from the Federal down to the Local should do a complete re-evaluation and overhaul of ALL of their laws to see which ones line up with the U.S. Constitution and then get rid of the laws that don't. For a person to be convicted of a crime, do their time, and let out with half of their Constitutional rights stripped away from them is a crime in and of itself. The question is, is an ex-inmate STILL a citizen of the United States?

Lol....you're more interested in what?????? You still haven't explained HOW you would make rules without STANDARDS to go by. Troy My definition of freedom is NO rules, restrictions, or limitations. Which is next to impossible when you are living with other people (society). What we should all want is LIBERTY. Meaning, a society with minimal restrictions and regulations. Enough to maintain societal standards and protect us. Standards are distinct from rules. If you think for a second you'll figure out why. ???? I already know this. Why do you feel this statement makes Del dangerous? Since Daniel made the statement I'll wait on HIS answer to your question; however I actually agree and believe Del's position of accepting rules over standards is concerning and potentially dangerous as well. ....though they may or may not be for the same reasons as Daniel's.

Troy Just so those who are reading this don't get the WRONG message of what I'm saying, let me make it clear............. In the majority of cases, AfroAmerican mothers both married and unmarried strongly LOVE and deeply CARE for their children. But I'm making 2 points: 1. Many if not most AfroAmerican children born since the late 60s were not PLANNED. They are a result of parents recklessly having sex without taking all the necessary precautions to prevent pregnancy. How well they love and care for the children after they are born is irrelevant because they didn't INTEND for them to be conceived in the first place. 2. And of those children who ARE a result of mistaken conception.....a large percentage of the parents really DON'T care for them, despite what they say out of their mouths. We KNOW many of the fathers don't care because they abandoned both the child and the mother and only help when the government FORCES them to (child support, ect....). But many of the mothers don't really care either but because they are the mothers they are often "stuck" with the responsibility or try to pass it off to the grandmothers. Like you said earlier, you and many men can't believe this and don't understand how a person can NOT help take care of a life they helped to bring in the world. But just because YOU feel strongly obligated to do something....doesn't mean everyone shares the same moral obligations. Otherwise, they'd have abortions ir out the kids up for adoption. Again, yes many mothers DO love and care for their children, but keep in mind there are many reasons for this besides them actually "caring" for their child....... 1. Many mothers don't HAVE to put their children up for adoption because the living conditions are so dire that the STATE ends up taking them away anyway and putting them in the "system" where many end up suffering more abuse. 2. Many mothers don't have access to abortion clinics to have the procedure done. 3. Many mothers are in a state of RELIGIOUS CONFUSION. Meaning, THEY will kill someone over an argument, will suck every dang-a-lang in town, and will cuss and shoot dope every night like it's going out of style....but ALL OF A SUDDEN get "holy" when it comes to abortion and declare it "murder" and refuse to abort the life they have absolutely NO intention of taking care of when it is born. Confused as hell with their morals. We see RELIGIOUS CONFUSION a lot with AfroAmericans. Like Harry points out constantly, the same people who go to church every Sunday and praise Jesus will often shoot someone over $5 and cheat on their wife with every woman in the neighborhood. "Hurry up, my wife'll be home in a minute!!"

Hey Sara! I knew that was you.....lol.

Daniel can you fly without the aid of a machine? Can you go back in time? All of life has boundaries. I agree, and that's my point. Free means NO limits or restrictions. Who can say that? Which is why I said nobody who lives in this society is truly free. Your argument once again demonstrates your perfectionist/utopian views. They are what drive people insane and ruin the lives of millions. Guy you have a VERY active imagination if you can draw all of those conclusions from what I just said above....lol. I said no one in this society is actually free. How in the WORLD you managed go get: "Look! He's trying to build Wakanda and run all of the white folks insane!!!" .....from that. Is beyond my understanding.

Daniel You just illustrated the problem of the bureaucratic state. Absolutely. What people are calling systemic racism is really not attitudinal or cultural it lies in the residual regulations that need to be pruned from all levels of government. Ok, stop....stop..... I was agreeing with you for a minute but then you had to get "funny style". Systemic racism is REAL. Excessive regulation in government is a common TACTIC used to maintain it. Religion, education, and other institutions use similar methods to maintain it also. I've said before that the Constitution was written primarily FOR Caucasian men and the rest of the law written for everybody else. This is why the principal of removing two or more regulation for each new one is an important process in multiple ways. I actually agree. Infact, I think it should go further than that and EVERY municipality from the Federal down to the Local should do a complete re-evaluation and overhaul of ALL of their laws to see which ones line up with the U.S. Constitution and then get rid of the laws that don't. For a person to be convicted of a crime, do their time, and let out with half of their Constitutional rights stripped away from them is a crime in and of itself. Hell, if someone is SO bad that when they get out of prison you don't think they should be able to vote, own a gun, or get a job....then why the hell did you let them out in the first place??? Either he's PAID his debt or he hasn't.

But how would the RULES be determined without adequate standards?

Troy Human beings don't KNOW the future but with proper wisdom and observance you can PREDICT a lot of it. It's one thing for a stable young man and woman who don't have too much money but both of them have decent paying jobs and have a nice home already, to try to have a child even though they aren't sure what the future may hold but love eachother and are willing to take that chance. I can understand that. But damn man.....lol. You're a 17 year old girl, no father, you're living with your mother who's a drug addict and you've slept with so many dudes you aren't even sure who the father IS let alone whether or not he'll help raise the child. There is NO WAY you should be having children....not even taking that chance! Let's not use the unpredictability of life as an excuse NOT to properly prepare for it and behave recklessly. It always boggled my mind why so many guys have children by so many women and don't live with any of their kids. Why do so many women have kids by multiple men who, based upon their behavior, have demonstrated they have no problem not being in their children's lives. Some men/women seemingly have no problem with this while others find it unconscionable. Surely women knowingly having kids by men they know will not raise of them are aware their lives will be much harder. Is it because they know no ither way? I can adequately answer the question with three simple words: THEY DON'T CARE. Like I said in another thread, many of our people should ADMIT that they don't care...that would make many things a lot easier and save us a lot of time and head scratching. If they don't care if they get pregnant or get a disease or jacked up by a worthless crazy ass boyfriend....how much do you think they'd care about raising the child they had with him? I don't believe "criminality" is passed along in the genes because I believe what is and isn't a crime varies from society to society. But there IS evidence that intelligence and emotional stability may have a genetic component to it. Which makes you wonder what type of disaster some of these crazy ass brothers are making in the hood sowing their wild oats all over the place.

Troy Though some of us are more free than others. There aren't "degrees" to freedom. Either you're free or you're not. It's like pointing to a dismembered corpse and proclaiming it "deader" than average....LOL. No one who lives in a society is truly "free". People telling me who i can marry, what my gender is, what my sexual expression must look like, are trying to take my freedom. Well that would be your Government trying to do that. You know.... The same people who issued you your official documents like BIRTH CERTIFICATES, PASSPORTS, and DRIVER'S LICENSES.