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https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/art/Black-History-Month-Chinese-New-Year-2026-1300249299 EMBED CODE Black History Month Chinese New Year 2026 While honoring Black history, let's celebrate the Lunar New Year, which originates from China. For Lunar new year, To your family, people you love whom love you, say Xīnnián hǎo" (新年好) which means 'New Year Goodness' in a series the symbols mean: new year good To strangers or those you do not love, say "Xīnnián kuàilè" (新年快乐), which means 'New Year happiness' in a series the symbols mean: New Year Fast Joy As it is the year of the horse, the symbol for horse is 马 transliterates to "ma" . Notice how similar it is to the symbol for question mark 吗 which is also pronounced "ma". The horse is a beloved creature in China , from the Manchurians to Mongols above them. China's capitol has been from its north most of its history where the people of the hills or steppe are one with the horse. The phrase 你好吗 or Ni-Hao-Ma can be interpreted as "You Good?" 你 = ni 好-hao 吗-ma If you know your Wu Xing (五行) , the five elements : wood/fire/earth/metal/water , then you know this is the year of a Fire Horse. The Fire Horse The Fire Horse is a significant element in the Chinese zodiac, representing a rare combination that occurs only once every 60 years. The Year of the Fire Horse begins on February 17, 2026, and is associated with qualities such as freedom, enthusiasm, intelligence, and a strong drive for movement and progress. People born under this sign are often described as social, adventurous, and self-directed, but they can also be prone to impatience or impulsive decisions. The fire element amplifies the horse's natural dynamism, making this zodiac sign particularly magnetic and high-energy. The horse is known for : freedom, enthusiasm, intelligence, and a strong drive for movement and progress. Fire enhances all signs with: visibility, passion, momentum, and transformation. Firemares! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHWpi-5TjFQ Now where does Black history and China blend? From my own research , look at INFORMATION REFERRALS below, the earliest historical figure is an Empress Li Lingrong , from the Jin dynasty [ 266–420 AD ] the earliest mythological figure I can discern that is Kunlun or Black is Mole , a negrito person enslaved, written in the Tang Dynasty [ 618–690, 705–907 ] now I found out that chinese historians had suggested the Kunlun were described at the time of the Tang from what in modernity is called Cambodia or Vietnam, which have Negritos in them. What you have to comprehend is that many from modern day India or China have migrated into southeast asia, leading to changes in the appearance of people in those regions as well as making new heritages. So with that I said, let's see Mimada in the Jin Dynasty, an assistant to the Empress Li Lingrong. Her shanqun has : a yellow/brown with spots/purple striped qun/skirt, a black weichang/apron like on the skirt, a champagne pink duijin/collar, a cherry blossom pink shan or ru/jacket or coat, a silver chanshan/shirt with Mimada in chinese symbols [pronounced Chu Tau] Coloring pages gallery https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/gallery/47013691/comic-coloring-pages Do you want a Coloring page made by me for your own use? Use the following link https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/commission/Single-Coloring-Page-1732448 Mimada Gallery https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/gallery?q=mimada Mimada elsewhere https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/favourites?q=mimada #mimada #lunarnewyear #chinesenewyear #kunlun #fire #horse #新年快乐 #2026 #coloringpage #blackhistory #hddeviant #deviantart #richardmurray #aalbc #rmaalbc #Kobo #kwl #richardmurrayhumblr #tumblr INFORMATION REFERRALS early story of an indigenous black Asian, commonly called negrito today https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunlun_Nu It takes place during the Dali reign era (766-80) of Emperor Daizong of Tang and follows the tale of a young man named Cui who enlists the aid of Mole, his negrito slave, to help free his beloved who was forced to join a court official's harem. At midnight, Mole kills the guard dogs around the compound and carries Cui on his back while easily jumping to the tops of walls and bounding from roof to roof. With the lovers reunited, Mole leaps over ten tall walls with both of them on his back. Cui and his beloved are able to live happily together in peace because the official believes that she was kidnapped by youxia warriors and does not want to make trouble for himself by pursuing them. However, two years later, one of the official's attendants sees the girl in the city and reports this. The official arrests Cui and, once he hears the entire story, sends men to capture the negrito slave. But Mole escapes with his dagger (apparently his only possession) and flies over the city walls in order to escape apprehension. He is seen over ten years later selling medicine in the city Luoyang, not having aged a single day. A study of Blacks in Africa https://sino-platonic.org/complete/spp122_chinese_africa.pdf excerpt The lin shu "it. (History of the Jin) describes Empress Li, a concubine of Emperor Xiao Wuwen (373-397): "...She was tall and her coloring was black. All the people in the palace used to call her Kunlun." Was the term kunlun synonymous with dark skin? This anecdote comes from a history of the Jin dynasty (265-420), before African slaves had been imported into China and before the Chinese had made significant contacts with Southeast Asian countries. So when and why did the term kunlun take on this meaning? excerpt The meanings ofthe word kunlun expanded during the Tang to include the races, countries, and languages of Southeast Asia. The Former Tang History describes the homeland ofthe kunlun people: "The people living to the south of Linyi [present-day Vietnam] have curly hair and black bodies and are commonly called Kunlun. The description of the country of Zhenla (present-day Cambodia) also includes information on the kunlun: ~'The country of Zhenla is northwest of Linyi. It was originally a dependent of Funan. It is of the kunlun type. This appears to be the earliest Chinese indication of the kunlun as a racial group with a specific homeland. Referral https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunlun_Nu_people#Taiping_Guangji Li Lingrong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Lingrong Emperor Jianwen of Jin , husband of Li Lingrong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Jianwen_of_Jin Emperor Xiao Wuwen (373-397) son of Li Longrong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Xiaowu_of_Jin Tang fashion for women https://totallyhistory.com/tang-dynasty-clothing/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_fashion_in_ancient_China https://www.newhanfu.com/3116.html Jin fashion https://www.interactchina.com/blog/fashion-timeline-of-chinese-women-clothing-/ Batek People https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batek_people# image https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batek_people#/media/File:Keluarga_suku_Bateq_167.jpg Clothing elements https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruqun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ru_(upper_garment) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qixiong_ruqun 02192026 Citation https://www.deviantart.com/comments/1/1300249299/5267069631 SpaceScholar commented on Black History Month Chinese New Year 2026 .19 mins ago Nice Jin Dynasty hanfu! Hanfu doesn't get enough attention in my opinion. The account of Empress Li was written in the Tang Dynasty, and the text contains many anachronisms and inaccuracies with no contemporary evidence for her {though if she did indeed exist, I do doubt she was 'African', an the surrounding context implies she was a local Chinese person}. However, I find it useful for another reason- during the Tang, the Kunlun- if you'll pardon the phrase- 'magical negrito' was a popular trope, and with the supernatural aspects attached to the account of Empress Li, it was a familiar thing to put in this historical account as it would've been familiar in the popular literature of the time. It's a fascinating reflection of the times!😉 HDdeviant just now Well, the long shirt , qibao , meets the modern fashion trends better than ensemble dresses like a shanqun. Yeah, the biggest issue is a lack of imagery. I tried to find an image of her son or grandson but I was unable, that would give at least some notion. And that is why I used her for Black history. Black doesn't equal African in the same way White doesn't equal European. African / Asian/ European / American are geographic designations. Each geography has black or white peoples. If you look at the eskimo they have a white skin. If you look at the arawak northern south america, they have a black skin. In the same way the Mongolian peoples are asian, but have a white skin. the BAtek , in modern vietnam have a black skin. Part of my purpose in this was publicizing my own personal views towards Black peoples. I am a Black person and I am of African descent. But, too many peoples, non blacks + blacks, miscomprehend Black equaling African. The Aborigine of modern australia, the indigenous sri lankans at the tip of the indian subcontinent, they are not africans, but they are black. And in asia + africa, when you look at the intersection of where northern peoples victorious in war interacted with southern peoples you see the mixed/arab/mulato/pardo/brown people. The wealthy people of Egypt/Sri Lanka/Indonesia/Malaysia/Morocco/Iraq are all whiter, the majority of the peoples,usually poor, are blacker. That proves my point. you see this in south africa, who are the coloreds? That is why I implied native black asian peoples, not black africans. Yes, commonly accepted media interpretations, commonly called tropes/turns, exist. . No need to be pardoned. As a writer I don't create magical negritos to save the non negrito. In the same way Italians hate the mafioso trope. Blond haired white women hate the dumb blond trope. All peoples have negative tropes in literature. The key I argue is for any person who feels insulted by a trope not to buy into that trope in their own creations. I can't tell or demand someone else what to do but I can control my own art. But I also feel the trope of the vile white slaver, which was well known in the late 1800s in the usa is also allowable. Do you get my point? She is interesting. It is too bad I couldn't find an illustration, I know china from its earliest times was illustrative so maybe somewhere is an illustration that can make the history clear to her identity. But I think even if the empress is false in being described as Kunlun, I can believe in the harem of the chinese emperor , who was able to get women from mongolia, india, japan, that a Kunlun woman from south of china was in there. and if not the emperor, there has to be Kunlun's in southern china simply by proximity. And as you say the popularity of the art form, proves Kunlun's were known. It is like Othello. Yes, the fiscally common person in england didn't see a black person on average. But all the wealthy people 100% knew Black people were real in seeing one or in illustrated books. ... Thanks for the dialog Happy to have it. 02202026 Citation https://www.deviantart.com/comments/1/1300249299/5267135978 SpaceScholar Yesterday I see. Thanks for explaining your definition of 'black', as in skin tone, and it does make sense. My only critiques of it would be by what standard of white/black do you go by? How dark does a person have to be to be black or light to be white? My only other issue with it is these various 'black' peoples have no genetic, cultural or linguistic ties to each other so it seems to be a mere physical descriptor. As for the class divisions in various places like Sri Lanka, Egypt, southeast Asia and such, I personally wouldn't call these peoples 'white' for the same reason. Africans and their descendants overseas themselves have various shades of skin- so would that make some of them "whiter" than others? Perhaps white/black could be see as a spectrum rather than a hard line binary with degrees within individuals. There's no nee to reply- I hope I didn't offend you. I was just curious and wanted to share my own thoughts on the matter. It's interesting either way. HDdeviant just now My pleasure, black is a phenotypical designation, a phenotypical race. That is why it isn't cultural or linguistic. In the same way African, is many cultures or languages, they are not linked. Iran and Japan are all on the asiatic continental shelf yet are they culturally or linguistically alike? they are both asian from a geographic perspective. So to answer the question underneath the ones you asked, the critiques/judgements you gave, my definitions of black or white or similar phenotypical groupings or races are not mandatory for any other to prescribe to though i know some other humans besides me do and some other humans don't. Viewing race isn't meant to be a science/something known. Race since the earliest humans who lived by traveling with the seasons, differed themselves by their mere groupings, are all perceptions/ways of groups of humans to organize as they see fit, for better or worse. They can be negatively or positively biased. Can be enforced as a heritage/something carried in the home or through the whip. Can be made as a culture/something grown in a similar way. Can be considerate to all humans. Trying to make any racial system outside genetic ones is always open to interpretation. I restate, outside genetic labels[human/male/female/child of/parent of], any other labeling: black/white/european/asian/old/young/christian/muslim/ and the many others are all defineable to each human in humanity , can be adhered to by many, millions, but it doesn't mean it has to be adhered to by all. It doesn't mean the lone person with another definition is wrong. People who don't view Turks as Europeans. People who don't view fifty year olds as old. No need exist to convince either way. I have never been to china, don't speak chinese, don't have the most common appearance of a chinese male. but if I go to china and say I am chinese now. Many will say I am not, you will say I am not, and give various reasons, all based on a definition to being chinese that I do not fit, but that doesn't really matter. What matters is me. Maybe in ten years others you call chinese say I am chinese too. Does it mean those who say I am not chinese are wrong? no. The lesson is comprehend various racial schema, as you did to my and others definition of black. And whether you embrace a racial schema or not, that is your choice at any time, but all your choice. In india today, cause I know people personally from india, some humans believe that some other humans are of a race whose shadow can not be touched. Do I utilize said racial caste schema in india? no. Do my Indian friends? no. But I comprehend the racial schema.The people in india who believe that I am not going to try and regale from it. Nor do I think they need to change their mind. They will or will not change their mind when they are ready. What matters is I choose to not use said racial schema, while I accept others doing likewise or other. I apologize if I seemed to suggest a hardline, black or white or other phenotypical labels like mixed or colored are phenotypical ranges. All human beings have a genetic ties, ala genus and species, genetic races, which are also physical descriptors, more internal than external, not of appearance but of the cellular makeup. but genetic description is physical. not cultural or heritagewise or linguistic. ... Modern humanity has a problem, the technology of communication is so potent, all human beings know humanity is a racially complex species. But very few humans are used to living offline in a highly multiracial environment. I am from NYC, it is an ugly city in many ways, arguably most, but NYC has beauty as well, beauty in many ways, and one of the beautiful things about NYC is if you live in this city and engage in its street life, be amongst its people, who come from all over the world literally, you become accustomed to the other, the stranger. I didn't say befriend or hate or love or dislike, but become accustomed/gain the habit of living by. The problem for so much discourse online is offline, most humans come from small towns or monoracial communities where everyone fits into one racial category. and so they are not accustomed to the other, the stranger, the foreigner, the immigrant, the migrant, and online they express their discomfort with what they are not accustomed too, a negativity in various levels of intensity. I am accustomed offline to talking about many topics, in a wide range , but civilly. I think we did well Always be creating! 02202026 Citation https://www.deviantart.com/comments/1/1300249299/5267227904 SpaceScholar 6 hours ago Thank you for elaborating! You made a good point about genetics being an internal physical descriptor. Still, I personally wouldn't describe dark skinned peoples as all 'black' or lighter peoples 'white'. But I really liked that you made clear that your definition of 'black' is your own, and not meant to be anyone elses. and you don't expect others to abide by it'. Civil discourse online is something lacking these days. Badge Awards HDdeviant just now my pleasure, I admit it is easy for me to be this way cause I was raised this way. I have seen offline many people who were not raised by their parents to speak distinctly between truth and opinion. A mistake too many parents make. ... to your last sentence, I wish to defend humanity ... I think the world offline is treated unevenly by many of us today, in circa 2026. It is 2026, but in the year 1926, what was humanity at that moment? Did it make the earth an environment of peace? no. Was it an example of family/loving ones en masse? no. Most in humanity in 1926 were controlled/enslaved/abused by one part of humanity, that part being people of white european descent who forced all others to speak a tongue of western europe, be christian, abide by books written by those of white european descent absent consideration to any other peoples. Those who were not forced were usually killed, ala the native american in the usa. I argue civil discourse , throughout all humanity, was far less present in 1926 than 2026. And leading to today, how many wars occurred in humanity? Not just the wars that get tons of movies like the commonly called in english World War two. But wars like the sino-indian war, [I don't know what it is called in china or india]between china and india over kashmir and tibet. No two may concur on the purpose or value of any war, but one thing everyone knows , wars are not civil discourse, and humanity spent the entirety of the 1900s in alot of wars. So the internet when it was started was confined to mostly the usa populace, and various fiscally wealthy or universities about humanity. but as the internet has expanded its reach, the larger truth of humanity's discourse offline has become reality online. I argue, discourse online is merely matching the discourse offline because the internet is able to reach more than in its earlier days. The good news is that the internet is so large today , anyone using it can find enclaves of civil discourse if they want it as you and I both show. The pertinent question is how can the majority in humanity offline + online have civil discourse? I don't know any guarantee to that destination.

https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/art/Black-History-Month-Mardi-Gras-2026-1300245780 EMBED CODE Black History Month Mardi Gras 2026 Let The Good Time Roll! While honoring Black history, let's celebrate Mardi Gras. No where does Black history plus Mardi Gras blend more than New Orleans. The cultural element is the headwrap. The first image is a coloring page of Poldinha , bold feminity, my original character, a black woman of New Orleans in a multitemporal dress representing fashions from different times in New Orleans, with a tignon shaped like the Adinkra BiNkaBi, or no one should bite the other. She has three flags representing Black history in the usa as part of her fashion. She is holding a cornucopia, a horn of plenty, for the feast before Lent. The little boy next to her is playing a vest frottoir/washboard while sanding. The second image is a set of headwrap coloring images. A little point The tignon at one time was enforced by the governor into law in Louisiana as a mark on free women of color so that their status as free women while black was visible in opposition to white women, who filed complaints about the beauty of free women of color. The tignon as the referrals below prove show headwraps have a long history as dress wear for Black women, that was started before enslavement to whites, survived through enslavement to whites and exist today, whether through the intricate hats worn by black women in churches throughout the southern usa states or various ceremonies from the lavagem or baths to yemoja plus other orisha in salvador, bahia, brasil and quilombo communities in northern south America or anywhere in the Caribbean where it is synonymous with the marketplace. Coloring pages gallery https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/gallery/47013691/comic-coloring-pages Do you want a Coloring page made by me for your own use? Use the following link https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/commission/Single-Coloring-Page-1732448 Mardi Gras Die craft challenge in @CRArtisanCrafts https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/journal/Mardi-Gras-Die-1286556302 Mardi Gras Die Feb 3, 2026 Laissez le bon temps rouler or Let the good MArdi Gras 2026 Stamp https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/art/Mardigras2026gif-1295641657 Mardi Gras Die craft page https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/art/Mardi-Gras-Die-1294084920 Laissez le bon temps rouler #poldinha #headwrap #tignon #louisiana #Neworleans #mardigras #2026 #blackhistory #coloringpage #adinkra #gele #hddeviant #deviantart #richardmurray #aalbc #rmaalbc #Kobo #kwl #richardmurrayhumblr #tumblr INFORMATION REFERRALS Tignon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tignon art from page A West Indian Flower Girl and Two other Free Women of Color c. 1769 Agostino Brunias (1728 - 1796) – Artist (Italian, active in Britain (1758-1770; 1777-1780s)) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Agostino_Brunias_-_A_West_Indian_Flower_Girl_and_Two_other_Free_Women_of_Color_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg more information https://wams.nyhistory.org/colonies-and-revolution/spanish-and-french-colonies/fashionable-rebellion/?utm_source=chatgpt.com Signare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signare art from page Negress of quality from the Island of Saint Louis in Senegal, accompanied by her slave. 1788 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hommes_femmes_et_scènes_du_Sénégal-Jacques_Grasset_de_Saint_Sauveur_mg_8495.jpg Negress of quality from the Island of Saint Louis in Senegal, accompanied by her slave. Illustration from Costumes civils actuels de tous les peuples connus, Paris, 1788, by Jacques Grasset de Saint-Sauveur (1757-1810). Aquatint. 1890 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SignaresBal.jpg Un bal de Signares (mulâtresses) à Saint-Louis (Sénégal) (illustrations de Côte occidentale d'Afrique du Colonel Frey - Pl. en dble page après p.11 [Cote : Réserve A 200 386] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:La_Signare_de_Gorée_avec_ses_esclaves-Musée_de_la_Compagnie_des_Indes.jpg Français : La Signare de Gorée avec ses esclaves, gravure polychrome d'Adolphe d'Hastrel. Musée de la Compagnie des Indes (Lorient) Tignon Law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tignon_law art from page Portrait of Betsy c. 1837 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Portrait_of_Betsy.jpg Portrait of a free woman of color (previously titled Portrait of Betsy) by François Fleischbein (1801/1803–1868), oil on canvas. This version is following restoration efforts in 2017. more info https://www.ceeceesclosetnyc.com/blogs/news/the-tignon-laws-how-black-women-in-louisiana-turned-oppression-into-fashion Placage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plaçage art from page c. 1867 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FashionableMarquisB.jpg from Edouard Marquis - New Orleans, 1867. African American Creole woman in fashionable dress of the era and parasol, with another woman in working class clothing, possibly her servant. Fashionable colored women c. 1867 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Creole_women_of_color_out_taking_the_air,_from_a_watercolor_series_by_Édouard_Marquis,_New_Orleans,_1867.jpg from a series of watercolors by Edouard Marquis Marchande https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marchande Zydeco music https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zydeco Vest Frottoir https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vest_frottoir Adinkra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adinkra_symbols Gele https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gele_(head_tie) image https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IMG-20230221-WA0012.jpg Flags https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-African_flag https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteenth_flag https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_American_Heritage_Flag Mae Bernadette https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mãe_Bernadete Bernadette is female of Bernard which means ber/bear nard/brave or brave as a bear

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It is interesting, the question says, overrated movie that everyone loves... that part invalidates most films. I can't think of a film everyone loves and no work of art is truly overrated because all art has those who love it. Gone with the wind or Birth of a nation or king kong or ... star wars or lord of the rings were not loved by everyone and are evenly rated by those who love it, as well as evenly rated by those who do not. I argue the question is dysfunctional. Yes, millions didn't get lord of the rings, and millions didn't get gone with the wind, and millions didn't get birth of a nation. Now if the question was, movie that everyone I know loves, but I just don't get... now you have an even question. A small enough everyone, and no false sense of rating, so that it doesn't have an automatic millions of people not getting it regardless of the movie you choose, or an uneven assessment of ratings when people rate all art as they feel about it. And my answer to the adjusted question is I don't know:) I can see why any film, ANY FILM is loved I can see why any art is loved. If anything I argue the artists who can't see why a work of art is loved is hurting themselves as an artist. You have to have an open mind to comprehend the eternity that is art. ... I will make another adjustment, movie that everyone I know loves, that I wish didn't and why? To that end I can answer. I get the lion king 100% , I don't think it is falsely rated. But I wish people I know didn't love it. It is a beautiful animation, simple, a little crude, but an uplifting story, has fun. I just wish it had humanoid characters instead of the nonhumans. I have aesthetic desires. Call them biased, negatively or positively, but they are true for me. If I was in control of disney, which I am not, the lion king has humanoid characters. the princess and the frog has a human princess the whole movie and the male lead is a frog. And comprehend I 100% get the lion king or the princess and the frog. I think they both have lovely elements. Both have for me, lame elements. but that is art Wanna know one of the changes when Murphy was hired? The love interest went out the window. Just thought you should know. + On this date in 1984, "Beverly Hills Cop" premiered in Los Angeles. In 1977, Paramount executive Don Simpson came up with a movie idea about a cop from East L.A. who transferred to Beverly Hills. Screenwriter Danilo Bach was called in to write the screenplay. Bach pitched his idea to Simpson and Paramount in 1981 under the name "Beverly Drive", about a cop from Pittsburgh named Elly Axel. However, his script was a straight action film and Bach was forced to make changes to the script, but after a few attempts the project went stale. With the success of "Flashdance" (1983), Simpson saw the Beverly Hills film as his next big project. Daniel Petrie, Jr. was brought in to rewrite the script and Paramount loved Petrie's humorous approach to the project, with the lead character now called Axel Elly, from Detroit. Producer Jerry Bruckheimer claimed that the role of Axel Foley was first offered to Mickey Rourke, who signed a $400,000 holding contract to do the film. When revisions and other preparations took longer than expected, Rourke left the project to do another film. Sylvester Stallone was originally considered for the part of Foley. Stallone gave the script a dramatic rewrite and made it into a straight action film. In one of the previous drafts written for Stallone, the character of Billy Rosewood was called "Siddons" and was killed off half-way through the script during one of the action scenes. Stallone had renamed the lead character to Axel Cobretti, with the character of Michael Tandino being his brother and Jenny Summers playing his love interest. Stallone has said that his script for "Beverly Hills Cop" would have "looked like the opening scene from 'Saving Private Ryan' (1998) on the beaches of Normandy. Believe it or not, the finale was me in a stolen Lamborghini playing chicken with an oncoming freight train being driven by the ultra-slimy bad guy." However, Stallone's ideas were deemed "too expensive" for Paramount to produce and Stallone ultimately pulled out two weeks before filming was to start. Two days later, the film's producers, Simpson and Bruckheimer, convinced Eddie Murphy to replace Stallone in the film, prompting more rewrites. Besides Stallone and Rourke, other actors who were considered for the role of Axel Foley included Richard Pryor, Al Pacino, and James Caan. Murphy, John Ashton, and Judge Reinhold improvised most of their comic lines. Literally hundreds of takes were ruined by cast members, actors or the director laughing during shooting. During the "super-cops" monologue, Ashton is pinching his face hard and looking down in apparent frustration. He is actually laughing. Reinhold put his hand in his pocket and pinched his thigh really hard, trying to prevent himself from laughing. my thoughts hahaha I knew you would mention that:) In defense , look at the amount of rewrites this project took on. I don't deny that the white writers took out the love interest when eddie came in, ala eddie murphy's desire for love interest in boomerang and coming to america, but you read what stallone wanted to do... part of me can imagine stallone's. bless karl urban for his judge dredd. The reality that it took all of these rewrites and development drama for murphy to get the job is telling in itself. + well concerning the issue of black heterosexual activity in films , the issue is not about one film right 🙂 it is about patterns or lack thereof . In the case of films financed by whites in the usa, a pattern displaying an absence of black heterosexual activity in films financed or written or directed by whites is clear to see. And can only be denied by the dishonest. You know my thoughts, the question is always how to fix problems. In my view only black produced films will provide the width of black characterizations that is absent in white produced films. I don't think white produced films will ever expand black characterizations in any robust way. In one film here or there? yes, but not enough to ever make a pattern.

Is the loch narr lovecraftian? My answer challenging question, the problem in modernity with lovecraft is his name has become synonomous with any literature or illustration that depicts, a potent or omnipotent god that may act negatively but more importantly has mystery to them. ala Cthulu. If you consider Zorastrianism, where the most potent divine is deemed a double natured god, then loveraft merely mirrored zorastrianism's god, which is from the distant antiquity. If you look at the hindu religion. It has more branches than christianity while never had a schism. What is my point? in hinduism, the divine, the brahman, is left to interpretation. A hindu can be a monotheist and another hindu a polytheist and both ways are not deemed correct or incorrect, but it is up to each individual to follow those ways. The responsibility is the adherent. The Brahman is functionally, from a christian historical lens, the interpretation of christ by the gnostics, whose main argument is that god/brahmin/similar names for divine nature can not be known, only interpreted. What does this have to do with Lovecraft? Lovecraft's gods or worldbuilding, shows entities that aren't confusing if your used to a hindu or gnostic christian approach to spirituality or religion. So, Loch Narr is arguably, hindu or gnostic as well as zoarastrian in reference, and all three of those heritages are older than lovecraft. I imagine he knew of all three. So challenging question. The simple answer is yes, because the Loch Narr has elements of characterizations in Lovecraft literature. The more even answer is, it comes from a longer tradition of complex divine beings citation https://discord.com/channels/1238281346833715283/1247320763661418587/1472358161594978388 IN AMENDMENT 02142026 exactly, being commonly known has value. Lovecraft achieved that in his time. Look at Robert E Howard or Phillip k dick, the quaity in their writing was quality before comic books/films but it was wehn frazetta inked a comic book that conan grew in the common knowledge and then a little brilliant film by milius was made, and conan has made money howard could only dream of. Dick's works were always brilliants, but it took a little movie from ridley scott to expose the trasure trove and the rest is history. Dick's stories have made post mortem a ton of money. So, being commonly known as an artist has value. the envious artist calling it selling out, the honest artist call it luck. .... to ponzi your correct , the label ponzi scheme has become the wish of many people who invested poorly and want some way to reclaim. ... yeah personal accountability is a way to look at it, though, if i owned a media outlet, i would want what is communicated through my outlet to be honest, precise in wording. part of lovecratian and ponzi scheme is how often media uses terms uncaringly, not just poorly, but uncaringly, which demands the viewers be accountable to what media says, to rewrite, many media outlets don't act like they care they are trusted or want to be trusted but many viewers place levels of trust. so media can argue viewers need to be personally accountable, which is the truth but firms have to also be labeled low quality. I didn't say firms have to be accountable but firms , especially media ones need to be labeled + accept being labeled as low quality when they simply are. Twitter/ CNBC/FOx NEws/ Youtube are all low quality media outlets while the most viewed. I know freedom of the press or speech means they can't be blocked and it is up to citizens/viewers to reject them or accept them, but I think a label of low quality is warranted. 02162026 D&D didn't ruin what people think of as a barbarian. It offered another perspective which simply became more well known, back to lovecraft being well known over other writers of his time. D&D is popular. Gauntlet is popular. The conan movie is popular. I have nothing against howard, but while conan is his, it wasn't his exact writing that led to conan or barbarians in general becoming well known. That isn't an artistic knock but a financial truth. ....I don't think anything is hard to bring to the screen. Making a film isn't the issue. Will a film be fiscally profitable is the issue? John Carter bombed financially, but it was inevitable. Ben Affleck said it best, a twenty five million dollar movie needs twenty five million in advertisement, and then you get fifty percent back in ticket sales from theaters so that means a twenty five million dollar movie needs one hundred million to break even. John carter cost 306 million dollars, lets assume that is money to make the film an advertising. that is 153 dollars. so to break even with fifty percent from the revenue of theaters, a 306 million dollar film needs to make 612 million dollars. John Carter made 284 million dollars. The first lord of the rings movie for example cost ninety three million dollars and made eight hundred and ninety seven million. so, lets say with adds the first lord of the rings movie cost one hundred and eighty six million . The revenue would have to be at least three hundred and seventy two . Lord of the rings first film made double of what was needed to break even. But how was lord of the rings developed that was different than john carter? that is the fiscal question. Lord of the rings had years of preproduction/ meaning before anything was shot, it had years of script revision/storyboards/set design / location . John carter suffered from massive reshoots. Many films studios have to demand a fiscally better process of making films. (1/2) https://discord.com/channels/1238281346833715283/1247320763661418587/1472805194956800041 Stop making films like Justice league ,where entire films are reshot and then expected to make a profit. Stop making films where the script has not been properly molded. A better process of making films will lessen the cost of making films which by default enhances the chance of returning a profit. John Carter from a production perspective was poorly done. Too many scenes thought up while shooting. Too many special effects desires not fully conceptualized. This creates a production mess which increases the cost of a film, regardless of artistic quality. Dick Tracy cost forty six million and made one hundred and sixty two million. If we double forty six million that is ninety two. Which means the film needs to make one hundred and eighty four to break even. It is simple arithmetic. Now, looking at Dick Tracy I have some issues... how much did the cast cost? Now I don't know the truth but WIki says Beatty wanted five million and then disney said they accepted him directing/starring/producer of the film if he kept the budget in twenty five million so beatty failed. so beatty is a poor director. his process is poor, making films cost go sky high. when not needed. I look at dick tracy and I argue, it could had been done for the 25 million disney 's accountants foresaw as the point to get back money. as for the other characters, again, the project is key. they need to be in the 25 million dollar range like sinners. to think about getting a profit (2/2) https://discord.com/channels/1238281346833715283/1247320763661418587/1472808008592396562 you know, better than think, more know lord of the rings than john carter. And the familiarity plays a role in fiscal reception. ... based on what you said, the directors are the problem. Here are the films, not the detective or boyscout o rinvolving them in a group in the DC Extended Universe: suicide squad/wonder woman/aquaman/shazam/birds of prey/wonder woman 1984/the suicide squad/black adam/shazam fury of the gods/the flash /blue beetle/aquaman lost kingdom... suicide squad+wonder +aquaman made a profit, and aquaman was a gem. but the rest got worse and worse financially. so based on what you said, the producers were willing to not manage these films better but were willing to pay for thier inefficiency. I argue the overhaul shouldn't involve blockading individuals, but implementing a process that must be adhered to. https://discord.com/channels/1238281346833715283/1247320763661418587/1472832049797926952 02162026 Citation For me, MArvel's success in films is a set of factors 1) Disney administration made sure Feige had an artistic process that was financially efficient for the set of films 2) Marvel has more popular non white characters than DC which helps in a modernity , where the ticket buyers to films , buyers of comics, are not just white people, it is a global audience that wants to see itself. 3 )DC has simply been a poor shepard of many of its characters , relying on Superman + BAtman as the two biggest comics in the industry, which is hurting it in the film business. DC had Nubia but most black people know of Storm first and Misty Knight second, Nubia is not well known. Whose to blame for that? Black panther is far and away ahead of Black ligtning and if anything, black lightning is almost a joke in the black audience. Linda Carter was the same age as christopher reeves when he did his first superman movie and she had a very successful tv show, why didn't they make a wonder woman movie? and instead made a supergirl film. Whose antagonist is , really atrocious writing, poor faye dunaway. So, for me, MArvel's success in modernity is stemming from a number of things. Not just Feige's management but a number of things. ... The test for DC is coming up. Superman + Batman always rake in, but MArvel's true success is in the field. Yes Spider man makes money, but who was MArvel's first film success? Blade. DC never had a blade, a character never before in visual media who had a film and made a killing. Where is DC's deadpool? advantage marvel. Where is DC's guardians of the galaxy? supergilr/clayface/the authority they will have their chance but I don't see it. That supergirl films trailer shows a very expensive film, that doesn't have superman's name on it. Women want a wonder woman film. I saw a car with wonder woman decals recently. ... we will see. 02162026 Citation even point, but that is why I always say Disney Marvel... I should say more often WB DC or in this case Discovery DC or shall i say with the coming sale it will be Netflix DC or Skydance DC I don't know which:) .... IT isn't the presence of characters that is the issue , it is the sheparding of them. DC + Marvel have tons of black characters but DC pre 1980 I argue didn't shepard their black characters as good as marvel and I think it was because of fiscal appreciation of their fanbase. which isn't evil. People say they comprehend fiscal capitalism but don't want firms to relate to who their buyers are. And new buyers are a risk. It is a fiscal myth that firms should take great risk in courting new buyers, as if the old buyers will be unchanging. ..... From my view, the green lantern movies problem is its overall structure. The green lantern core needs to be the movie, not one green lantern.... yes, Disney did well, damn rat:) .... haha!:) yes, pre blade the process was poor. I really believe in the process of making a film, the fiscal process which intertwines with the artistic. I do have a question to you in terms of pre blade marvel films. I have seen that Fantasitic four film/captain america I didn't see the doctor strange. I think the captain america wasn't horrible. Was it elegant or fineley made or one of the best films for me? no. But it was a decent low budget romp. I think films have the right to be low budget romps, like the first swamp thing film. ... all film studios better have bad movies or they are not film studios and are mind control users. Historically, all film studios mostly make fiscal losers. No film studio in the history of film studios mostly makes hits. I don't know if either has slipped up as film studios. I think both DC + Marvel as film studios have made hits, mostly duds and that is par the course. do you like Netflix or Skydance for shepard of DC? 02182026 Citation that wasn't the magicians with bill bixby ? cause i think that was also supposed to be dr strange... hahah the dark hole of rights ownership. films can be low budget and meant to be fun. ... I like the dolph lundgren punisher, only one to get it right for me. yeah, they were all based on the comics, but the interpretations were simply good, at the end of the day, a film is not a comic book nor a comic book a film. I argue a good comic book film doesn't try to satisfy comic book readers, but simply makes a good film using the story of the comic book as a base but not a bible... ahh I see:) to john stewart....well DC was already tanked before, AT&T sold DC to discovery on the cheap from market value if discovery took at&T's debt from WB so DC was already tanked, like many firms in the usa, instead of being sent to bankruptcy they were allowed to live on as a failed firm through acquisitions. Yeah I Am a fan of DC animated movies as well. the problem with animated films is the usa film going market has been trained to treat animation as for children or "weird"adults so many adults will never go see an animated movie in a theater thus their financial cieling is low and I think that helps the DC animated financially. Cause they have big brand name characters, but in animated world, they don't have to make movies to get the person who has never read or doesn't know a DC character in the global audienc,e which is many^INF , they just have to sate the comic book readers who watch animation. The comic book to screen will not work in live action to get a global audience with DC's characters. 02/18/2026 Who are the A list Marvel characters? I can name DC's easily, even before the film era. Superman/batman/ wonder woman/flash/green lantern that justice league is the gathering of the top heroes. Take out spider man , who are the a list marvel heroes? IN AMENDMENT Who are the A list Marvel characters? I can name DC's easily, even before the film era. Superman/batman/ wonder woman/flash/green lantern that justice league is the gathering of the top heroes. I argue DC only allowed the likes of aquaman in the justice league to try and compete when marvel had great success late 60s early 70s. but dc's style of heroes is simply different, and I admit as someone raised in new york city, NYC unlike any city in the world teaches a person to learn to live near civilly near strangers/foreigners/others. No you don't always love or like your neighbor in NYC, but overall, you are civil and the xmen/fantastic four/avengers all have that similar vibe of NYC. and I think immigrant peoples around the world can appreciate the nyc vibe in marvel stemming from stan lee's writing, that don't exist in DC's heroes or their worlds. The Xmen are literally upstate new york/the avengers or fantastic four are based in NYC right. but gotham isn't NYC. Gotham is a fantastic crime ridden film noir variant of NYC. Metropolis isn't NYC . Metropolis is how NYC was imagined in the future in the new york city world's fair. Themyscira is truly unlike anywhere but none of shows or movies have ever made themyscira as complex as it originally was or been courageous enough, writing wise, to make diana not banned from returning. But DC's style of heroes are different cause they are older than marvels on average. Captain america is the oldest marvel main hero and he shares a similar style to superman/batman and the like of DC. to marvel, unlike dc who was all in one studio marvel had their parts all over the place, spider man has done well , i think sony was a good shepard to spider man, while a poor, very poor shepard to the spiderverse. 20th century fox was a terrible shepard to Xmen for me. IT became the wolverine series, wolverine, logan wolverine and was a sign of why that firm was destined for receivership. New line did blade , and the first mortal kombat movie, but new line is terrible at series which ended it. Disney bought marvel but couldn't use the xmen/spiderman who were owned by others ... Taking out Spiderman , who are marvel's A level characters? Marvel was never a more popular comic book company than DC. One is that DC simply had the first icons: superman/batman/wonder woman and https://bleedingcool.com/comics/how-marvel-comics-first-overtook-dc-comics-in-1972/ ARticle transcript How Marvel Comics First Overtook DC Comics In 1972 Published Fri, 07 Jan 2022 10:57:14 -0600 by Rich Johnston|Last updated Thu, 22 Sep 2022 08:16:07 -0500 |Comments Today, the best-selling publisher of comic books in America is Scholastic. The second is Random House. But in the last half of 1972, that was suddenly Marvel Comics for the first time. One of the earliest comic book retailers and comic historian Bob Beerbohm (author of Comic Book Store Wars) set up the Californian comic book store and the first comic book chain. He has many tales to tell, including showing off the flyer printed to mark the occasion, from his friend Brian Kane. Bob Beerbohm writes on Facebook, with permission to republish; Last Half of 1972 Marvel announces their firm has finally overtaken DC comics to become #1 publisher of comic books in America. Marvel claims on this flyer "…in the world…" but that is hyperbole on their part. Reason How this was accomplished? Not from story quality, etc, but from an under-handed tactic of initially agreeing with DC for a cover price hike to 25 cents with DC Then doing that price hike to 25 cents for just one month of comic books, BUT, then secretly dropping back down to 20 cents the following month. Catching and blind-siding DC in that process Marvel beginning to outsell DC was and is predicated on customers seeing 5 Marvels for a buck VS just 4 DC for a buck. I saw the customer purchasing cross over from DC to Marvel for that very reason, firsthand, up close and personal. We had just opened our first of many Comics & Comix stores in the Bay Area. Marvel Comics would remain the dominant comic bookseller in the US newsstand and comic book store, until Image Comics and a Death Of Superman hyped DC Comics would push them out briefly. However, DC Comics always performed better at the bookstore than Marvel – and still do. Though Scholastic, Penguin Random House, Viz Media and Kodansha have pushed them both down the list in recent years.