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PREFACE Enjoy this speech on tolerance to the Stranger, commonly called the immigrant today, with the argument that one who does not tolerate or treat positively the stranger if a stranger themselves would cry inhumanity at being treated as said one treats the stranger. IAN MCKELLAN AS THOMAS MORE Video transcript 20:51 Um 20:53 Shakespeare uh wrote many plays, 37 of 20:56 them by himself, but he also contributed 20:58 to other people's shows. uh and uh one 21:02 of the speeches he wrote for a play 21:04 called Thomas Moore 21:06 uh has been preserved and it's the only 21:10 sample of his actual handwriting of some 21:13 of the words of a play by him and it's 21:16 not in the Fulier Library. It's in the 21:18 British Library. You can see it. It's on 21:21 display there in London. And it happened 21:23 that the play was never performed during 21:25 Shakespeare's lifetime because it was 21:26 thought to be a bit sedicious. 21:29 It had its actual premiere on stage in 21:34 1964 was the 400th anniversary of 21:36 Shakespeare's birth and I played Thomas 21:39 Moore. So you are looking at a man 21:43 [applause] 21:45 who uh who created a part by William 21:48 Shakespeare. 21:48 So this is handwritten. They know this 21:50 is his handwriting of this monologue 21:52 that you did 21:53 of a of a speech you probably don't know 21:56 but you ought to because it's a 21:57 wonderful 21:58 I don't know that. Would you mind? Would 22:00 you mind doing it for us? 22:03 [cheering] 22:05 [applause] 22:05 No, I wouldn't. I I wouldn't mind 22:07 because you'll enjoy it. 22:11 All right. Live theater. 22:13 Yes. 22:14 What's it [cheering] what's what's 22:14 what's the setting? What's it take place 22:16 in the play? 22:17 Uh it it this it's all happening 400 22:20 years ago. Uh and in London, there's a 22:22 there's a riot happening. There's a mob 22:24 out in the streets and they're 22:26 complaining about the the presence of 22:29 strangers in London, by which they mean 22:32 the recent uh immigrants who've arrived 22:36 there. And they're shouting the odds and 22:39 complaining and saying that the 22:41 immigrants should be sent back home 22:43 wherever they came from. And uh the 22:47 authorities send out this young lawyer, 22:49 Thomas Moore, to put down the riot, 22:50 which he does in two ways. one by saying 22:54 that you can't riot like this. It's 22:56 against the law. So, shut up, be quiet. 22:59 Uh and also being by Shakespeare with an 23:01 appeal uh to their humanity. 23:05 So, in order to set it up, we really 23:07 need somebody to shout that the 23:08 strangers should be removed. Could 23:11 someone do that? 23:14 Grant them removed. 23:19 And grant that this your noise hath chid 23:22 down all the majesty of England. Imagine 23:24 that you see the wretched strangers, 23:26 their babies at their backs, with their 23:29 poor luggage, plotting to the ports and 23:31 coasts for transportation, 23:34 and that you sit as kings in your 23:36 desires, authority quite silenced by 23:38 your brawl, and you in rough of your 23:41 opinions clothed. What had you got? 23:46 I'll tell you, 23:48 you had taught how insulence and strong 23:50 hands should prevail, how order should 23:52 be quelled. 23:54 And by this pattern, not one of you 23:55 should live an aged man. For other 23:57 ruffians, as their fancies wrought with 23:59 self-same hands, self-reason, and 24:02 self-right, 24:04 would shark on you, and men like 24:06 ravenous fishes feed on one another. 24:10 You'll put down strangers, kill them. 24:16 Cut their throats, 24:19 possess their houses. 24:22 Oh, desperate as you are, wash your foul 24:24 minds with tears. 24:26 And those same hands that you, like 24:28 rebels, lift against the peace, lift up 24:30 for peace. And your unreverent knees, 24:32 make them your feet to kneel to be 24:34 forgiven. 24:37 And say now the king, 24:40 as he is clement, if the offender mourn, 24:42 should so much come too short of your 24:44 great trespasses but to banish you 24:48 with thee would you go? 24:52 What country by the nature of your error 24:54 should give you harbor? Go you to France 24:57 or Fllanders, to any German province, 25:00 Spain or Portugal, anywhere that not 25:02 adheres to England. Why? 25:07 You must needs be strangers. 25:11 Would you be pleased 25:14 to find a nation of such barbarous 25:16 temper that breaking out in hideous 25:18 violence would not afford you an abroad 25:21 on earth? 25:23 Quet their detested knives against your 25:25 throats. 25:27 spurn you like dogs, and like as if that 25:30 God owned not, nor made not you, nor 25:33 that the elements were not all 25:35 appropriate to your comforts, but 25:38 chartered unto them. 25:42 What would you think 25:44 to be thus used? 25:49 This 25:50 is the strangest case and this your 25:56 mountedness 25:57 in humanity. 26:02 William Shakespeare 400 years ago. 26:05 [cheering] 26:10 [cheering and applause] 26:12 Thank you. 26:15 Tickets [cheering] to an art are 26:16 available now in the town. Everybody, 26:19 we'll be right back with a performance 26:21 by Earth. 26:25 [music] 26:34 [music] 26:37 [cheering] Monolog official "Grant them removed, and grant that this your noise Hath chid down all the majesty of England; Imagine that you see the wretched strangers, Their babies at their backs with their poor luggage, Plodding to the ports and coasts for transportation, And that you sit as kings in your desires, Authority quite silenced by your brawl, And you in rough of your opinions clothed; What had you got? I'll tell you: you had taught How insolence and strong hand should prevail, How order should be quelled; and by this pattern Not one of you should live an aged man, For other ruffians, as their fancies wrought, With self same hand, self reasons, and self right, Would shark on you, and men like ravenous fishes Would feed on one another. O, desperate as you are, Wash your foul minds with tears, and those same hands, That you like rebels lift against the peace, Lift up for peace, and your unreverent knees, Make them your feet to kneel to be forgiven! You'll put down strangers, Kill them, cut their throats, possess their houses, And lead the majesty of law in liom, To slip him like a hound. Say now the king (As he is clement, if th' offender mourn) Should so much come to short of your great trespass As but to banish you, whether would you go? What country, by the nature of your error, Should give you harbor? go you to France or Flanders, To any German province, to Spain or Portugal, Nay, any where that not adheres to England,— Why, you must needs be strangers: Would you be pleased To find a nation of such barbarous temper, That, breaking out in hideous violence, Would not afford you an abode on earth, Whet their detested knives against your throats, Spurn you like dogs, and like as if that God Owed not nor made not you, nor that the claimants Were not all appropriate to your comforts, But chartered unto them, what would you think To be thus used? this is the strangers case; And this your mountainish inhumanity." referral https://www.out.com/gay-tv-shows/sir-ian-mckellen-shakespeare-stephen-colbert#rebelltitem3 BACKGROUND Thomas More wasn't recorded as being staged during shakespeares life. The earliest recordings of it being staged are as follows. 1922 a three-night student production by the Birkbeck College, University of London, in December 1938 40 students at the King's School, Canterbury, 4–6 November , with P. D. V. Strallen in the title role. 1954 22–29 June at the London Theatre Centre for the Advance Players Association. It was first performed in Elizabethan costumes and then in modern dress, with Michael Beint as More 1964 McKellen also played the role at the Nottingham Playhouse 10 June–4 July Shakespeare's only surviving playscript now online The Booke of Sir Thomas Moore does not immediately spring to mind as among Shakespeare's masterpieces. So what do we know about it? 8 July 2020 Blog series Medieval manuscripts blog Author Julian Harrison, British Library The Booke of Sir Thomas Moore does not immediately spring to mind as among Shakespeare's masterpieces. This late 16th or early 17th-century play is not always included among the Shakespearean canon, and it was not until the 1800s that it was even associated with the Bard of Avon. So what is the connection with William Shakespeare, the author of the more distinguished Hamlet, Macbeth and Romeo and Juliet? A page of The Booke of Sir Thomas Moore, arguably in Shakespeare's handwriting In 1871, William Shakespeare's handwriting was identified on this page of The Booke of Sir Thomas Moore: Harley MS 7368, f. 9r. A clue is presented by the handwriting of the surviving manuscript (Harley MS 7368). There are 22 leaves in question, 13 of which are original, 7 are inserted leaves, and 2 are pasted slips. What is immediately apparent is that Thomas Moore was the work of several dramatists. The primary hand is that of Anthony Munday (d. 1633), and he was possibly assisted by the printer, Henry Chettle (d. 1603–07), with further contributions by Thomas Dekker (d. 1632), and perhaps by Thomas Heywood (d. 1641). The handwriting of yet another scribe in the manuscript, known by scholars as the unspectacularly named 'Hand D', is possibly none other than Shakespeare himself. Finally, the manuscript is known to have been censored in turn by Edmund Tilney (d. 1610), Master of the Revels. The division of the handwriting can be set out as follows. 'Hand D' (probably Shakespeare) contributed an addition on ff. 8r–9v, supplying lines 1–165 of Scene 6. ‘Hand S’: Anthony Munday ‘Hand A’: probably Henry Chettle ‘Hand B’: probably Thomas Heywood ‘Hand C’: an unidentified professional scribe ‘Hand D’: probably William Shakespeare ‘Hand E’: probably Thomas Dekker It was not at all unusual for early modern dramatists to collaborate in this way. William Shakespeare is known to have written in partnership with John Fletcher (d. 1625) and others, and it would have been logical for Munday to have turned to his fellow playwrights to advise and assist him when revising his play about Sir Thomas More (1478–1535), the early Tudor Lord Chancellor, humanist and martyr. What is exceptional here, of course, is that Harley MS 7368 is the only identifiable example of Shakespeare's contribution to a playscript surviving in manuscript. None of his other plays have been transmitted to us in this way. What is more, in these pages we can perhaps see the master playwright at work, musing, composing and correcting his text: a window into Shakespeare's dramatic art, as it were. Text on brown paper. Harley MS 7368, f. 8v.jpg Another page from Shakespeare's probable contribution to The Booke of Sir Thomas Moore: Harley MS 7368, f. 8v. Harley MS 7368, f. 8v.jpg There is a remarkable sub-text to William Shakespeare's contribution to Thomas Moore. Andrew Dickson, in an article ('Wretched Strangers') for the British Library's Discovering Literature site, has noted how William Shakespeare was presumably called upon by Munday to write the most emotional passage in the play, known as the 'insurrection scene'. Drawing upon events in 1517, when rioting Londoners demanded that immigrants be expelled from England, Shakespeare portrayed Sir Thomas More, as mayor of London, pleading with the crowd to accept the asylum seekers. Imagine that you see the wretched strangers, Their babies at their backs, with their poor luggage, Plodding to th’ ports and coasts for transportation, And that you sit as kings in your desires, Authority quite silenced by your brawl ... This was all the more remarkable when one realises that similar xenophobic riots had occurred in London in the 1590s and 1600s. Was Shakespeare making a case in The Book of Thomas Moore for racial tolerance? By putting words into Thomas More's mouth, was he making a barbed attack upon the prejudice of his own day? The Book of Thomas Moore was probably never performed in the time of its authors. The Elizabethan censor, Edmund Tilney, took serious dislike to the playscript, and it seems to have been banned from public performance. The manuscript instead passed into the Harley library and was then sold to the British nation in 1753; it might have remained in oblivion were it not that Shakespeare's style, and hence his own handwriting, was first recognised in the 'insurrection scene' in 1871. referral https://www.bl.uk/stories/blogs/posts/shakespeares-only-surviving-playscript Photos of shaekspeare's script, aka don't give your child guff about their handwriting again MORE ABOUT THE PLAY Referral https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Thomas_More_(play)

How many have died from the cold in the city you live in, in the USA? by 02042026 in NYC 17 died 13 hypothermia - 3 drug overdose 1 unknown citation https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2026/01/31/mayor-zohran-mamdani-snow-storm-homeless-death 13 from hypothermia which means they are out in the cold and had no where to go, but what is more important is how many people became sick. PEople don't seem to comprehend that one person murdered by law enforcement is hundreds of people assaulted by law enforcement. One person dying of hypothermia is hundreds of people sick from the cold. And the three people who drug overdosed thought that could heat them up. But, how many people are trying to drink themselves warm? New York City has problems across the board, these deaths are the proof. But what is most telling is in a city where if a black person commit an illegality, whether criminal or not, many chime in regardless of how uncommon the act but when the city is the culprit of a legal crime, no words no judgements no condemnations. in amendment so lietenant governor is what adrienne adams got to come in too late to win the mayoral race but block certain strategies by Eric Adams or Andrew Cuomo, good for her. I think she is actually a good legislator. https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/evening-briefing/2026/02/04/evening-briefing--feb--4--2026 02142026 CITATION https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12438-if-you-live-in-the-usa-how-many-have-died-from-the-cold-in-the-city-where-you-live-in/#findComment-80116 osted just now @Pioneer1 7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: There seems to be 2 Black Americas: -One affected by crime, poverty, familial dysfunction, and illegal immigration -The other....wealthy, healthy, well educated, good jobs, plenty of leisure time to enjoy themselves, and not bothered or threatened by immigration at all and confused at what the argument is even over I've SEEN wealthy and well to do Black communities in the Detroit, Atlanta, D.C. and Atlanta area but I'm not exactly sure what they're doing to maintain this oasis of peace and prosperity. Maybe to go school and get a good education and stay out of trouble. But millions of AfroAmericans have TRIED that.....it doesn't always work. Yet there are millions of AfroAmericans who have that "magic touch" where they bath in peace and prosperity regardless as to the economic conditions around the nation. Expand There has always been at least 2 tribes of Black people in the usa. When the usa was founded in the white european colonial phase of the usa, even though ninety to ninety five percent of black people were enslaved completely whites, ten to five percent of black people were free, owned businesses, was an employed laborer. You know this already. A black business owner fought alongside washington and company, was imprisoned by england for fighting for the usa to be, and survived and went back to his successful business.Some Black whalers in the new england states owned their own boats. The whites of marth's vineyard were some of the earliest abolitionist and the black populace in martha's vineyard grew as a result. Zora Neale Hurston grew in northern florida not far from Rosewood yet her black town was idyllic for her albeit, surrounded by white criminals. Armstrong Williams who grew up in South Carolina and whose relative was murdered by whites said he never dealt with white bias growing up on their tobacco farm. I myself admitted a happy childhood. My life wasn't affected by crime or fiscal poverty or dysfunctions in the home or immigrants whether legal or illegal but the biggest criminals where i lived was the local nypd precinct which was known, by everyone [black non black, paraplegic, athetist, christian, man , woman ] in this part of nyc for being dirty to the core. Drug dealers/extorionist/pimps all nypd officers and any nypd officer in that precinct who didn't aid them or help was an illegal actor through abetting, cause every nypd agent in there had to know. as for poverty, well, in my experience, most black people in this extended part of harlem , worked for a living, tried to find jobs, in a city that is not black, is not controlled. and I nor my particular place of rearing never had a problem with black immigrants so... And don't forget in your list of well to do black regions, two of the biggest is in los angeles and new york city. You atlanta/dc/ detroit. The black one percent region in los angles or New york city is very wealthy, financially. more than any other. And your wrong, you and everyone black know why a minority of black people have maintained financial success? The same reason modern fiscally black wealthy regions exists is the same as in the past, luck + white people allow it. The luck part is the truth of fiscal capitalism, which you know. 90% of all business, in all demographics fail. This is a simple truth. 90% of nonblack business fail. 90% of black business fail. 90% of mens business fail. 90% of womens business fail. Maybe you have the following belief, but education is not power, education does not mean you will succeed in a business. Education does not mean you will not be enslaved. The elder Rockefeller whose clan has a whole business complex named after them downtown new york city was a failed business man. He had one oil field that was not producing, living in a little shack. how did his clan get that prominance? education? no , power? no... Andrew Carnegie , the steel baron, who was uneducated as a child, and rowed people over the water between the buroughs as a child, which is illegal today, wanted to save money on shipping his steel and so he sought to consolidate the oil industry, which at that time, was extremely fragmented and had no internal ability to manage itself for more efficiency. Carnegie who owed no one, was not controlled, invited various oil men and chose carnegie, who from a fiscal perspective was the weakest. Carnegie chose Rockefeller because Rockefeller was the poorest, least qualified. Carnegie knew whomever he supported would dominate the oil industry, but carnegie wanted to dominate the steel even more and so Carnegie got what he wanted and Rockefeller got lucky, and with the path of luck, the rest is history. But it was luck. Rockefeller has no bargaining power, he had nothing. Everything was in carnegie's favor, carnegie simply gave blessing. Like Oprah winfrey's book club and similar actions by michelle obama or others. They say an artist has value and a millions dollars in twenty four hours occurs. Starbucks didn't have the money to start up, Bill gates and others gave money to them, through connections. again, no one was forced. What role did education have in Rockefeller's relationship with Carnegie? Oprah Winfrey's relationship with various writers in her book club? Gates relationship with Starbucks? White people allow it, is the other part, which you already know? again, what crimes or illegalities did Black Tulsa or Rosewood do? Unless you mean the unwritten crime of being black and having white neighbors who want to kill any happiness you have, which is most of black people in the usa historically. what fiscal poverty did Black Tulsa or Rosewood have? arguably they were fiscally wealthier than their white neighbors who terrorized them out of existence. From the surviving accounts most black people in Black Tulsa or Rosewood were happy in their homes, but that didn't prevent their destruction. and lastly, immigrants as defined by those coming to the usa from outside weren't the ones who annihilated black tulsa/rosewood/ black bronx [that was white jewish/italian/irish landowners in the bronx] /black new orleans/ and the millions of black towns or regions of white cities annihilated by whites into a complete reboot absent any provocation by blacks. The mystery to how certain Blacks live in a positive black pool in the united states of america, isn't a mystery, each is founded on fiscal luck + white allowance. The sad part is blacks like you keep thinking fiscal luck + white allowance is something that can be engineered or planned in some machiavellan way. For me what is sad is what I comprehend. So many black people in the united states of america or the european colonies it was born from, are so willing to see the usa in a positive light, that they only way they can rationalize black success is to keep trying to find a magical way a black person can make it happen, and treat it like a strategy insteead of admitting what historically continually shows. You mention fiscally wealthy black detroit or black atlanta or black district of columbia. When the all white counties around Detroit city, block black people or when said places residents harm black people, fiscally wealthy black detroit is willing to live with it. When the murdering white counties around atlanta, that graves filled with black people are still being found in, harm black people fiscally wealthy black atlanta is willing to live with that. I know too many black people from D.C. , the white populace of D.C. in my view is notoriously anti black. But wealthy black D.C. in prince george county and elsewhere is willing to live with that. But not everybody black want to have white terror as a neighbor. What is comprehending that some unknown magic ? You have made it clear, the usa is your home, and the history of black people fighting for the usa is true from the usa's very founding... but you have to comprehend, black people fought for the usa not to exists at its very founding, as well. So maybe if you expand your comprehension of the black populace in the usa you will realize how complex black peoples relationship with the usa or the non blacks in it is, and thus nothing is incomprehensible, from black presidents to black people living off grid. @ProfD 5 hours ago, ProfD said: Right. For Black men especially it takes some combination of intelligence, talent, preparation, discipline, grit, determination, adaptability & survivability to be successful. Well... I have to break up types of success when i speak of success. Financial success for black people, male or female or young or old in the usa, is all that you say. You need intelligence because fiscal capitalism breeds tricksters, you need talent especially as most blacks don't have money or access to money historically when they attempt things, preparation is good but levels of preparation are blockaded only the wealthiest can truly be prepared completely in fiscal capitalsim, discipline or grit or determination or survivability all are elements of purpose , a black person's purpose must be strong in the usa historically, 1492 to 1865 age of enslavement had black business owners who had to survive white people trying to entrap them legally, since black enslavement was legal, so free blacks were legally able to be enslaved. so your correct:) you need all the elements of purpose in that environment. 1865 to 1980 was jim crow which was literally about restricting/diminishing/stopping all black positive activity in every city or county or state since, the federal level deemed black people citizens now so white power could only operate through the state level and below. So yes, black people needed elements of purpose to survive an environment where they are citizens but every city/county/state they are in has an environment totally designed to make their life miserable, like being put in jail for walking on the left side of the street on sunday. And a black person need adaptibility in said enslavement or jim crow eras because both eras whole point is a black persons enslavement or destruction or goading into prison. Financial success needs the factors you mention, especially for blacks in the usa. Though I admit, in the post jim crow,1980 to today, as white people have finally stopped the stifling anti back behavior, black growth has blossomed, inevitably, at a faster rate than ever before. But black growth in the usa started in 1980, but 1492 or 1776 or 1865 But the success of the home, a positive home life, doesn't require all of those things for black people in the usa. It requires first love, which is not common in human homes in general, it requires patience. And is easier today in the post jim crow era. Unlike enslavement, where black homes didn't exist [ the slave quarter is not a home, a home can't exist for a person who can be sold at any moment n the leisure of another ], or jim crow, where black homes were under constant attack [between white states or white cities that used eminnent domain on entire black regions or cities or black towns , white businesses supported by white city or state governments abusing black customers or clients , white individuals or groups supported by white city or state governments committing acts of terror/assault from murder to harassment on black individuals or groups] on all aspects of life, the modern era, i will call post jim crow, 1980 to today, is the first time black homes don't have to deal with white overwhelming terror. So even though a negative heritage froom 1492 to 1980 has to be slowly ebbed out, black people's homes I argue are doing well, for such a negative legacy that they was imposed on them by the non black. But I think success financially is not the success of the home. @Pioneer1 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Some Black folks seem to be "immune" to racism and the other social problems that affect other Black people. it isn't , if you read my original segment to you in this post, then you realize the word is uncaring. History has as fat that some, a small minority of black people, were willing to fight alongside whites who publicly admitted they felt every black person should be enslaved. so is it so hard to see that that same minority, scale up for population growth over time, is willing to live alongside whites as positively, with whites in modernity on average being far less terrible to black people than their forebears. But, like in the past, did most blacks have the willingness to live alongside whites? NO! did most free blacks? no... rememebr , in the second white european global imperial war, commonly called erroneously world war two, black newspapers in majority wanted to tell black people to stay out of any positive engagement to that war... but white powers, had a meeting and the V's were up. Most black people in the usa before 1980 at the least, have always been anti USA or anti white but that never meant all black people. 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: That's what racists do....they fuck up your program. sometimes they murder you too... death does stop alot of programs. 4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Sometimes I wonder if some of these "magical negroes" are just illusions or phantoms designed to confuse you and make you wonder "why them"???? well... I have asked the following in the past and I realize it will never happen, for as a black woman replied then, you want the world to fall. But, I think what can help your query is revealing how many black people were agents of the three letter folk from 1940s to today. I am 100% certain if the names of every black agent to the cia/fbi/or other similar was revealed it would expose connections to alot of black people with money today, if not them, black benefactors to them. I have proof of nothing, but I know of four things, two for a fact and two through an unconfirmed source. The two facts - a bodyguard to malcolm x was an agent - an associate to fred hampton was an agent The two unconfirmed, I wish I could prove, but I believe - the three letter people infiltrated every single organization in the usa, every single organization -the three letter people killed more people since 1980 than any government army These four things if the unconfirmed two are true, lead to an inevitable reality. That all populaces in the usa have a corrupt one percent , a minority of wealthy , whose crimes against their own have never been admitted or revealed but has protected them from white power cause they are agents of white power. Again, I can't prove anything so as per the USA and its law room culture, absent proof, the ignorant/hopeful can be allowed to believe in better. In Amendment I think of the Vietnam war documentary from ken burns in PBS. Vietnam war ended circa 1974 so that is fifty two years ago, over half a century, over two generations or twenty years, and yet, redactions/crossouts were still needed on content? why? agents in vietnam? working for the usa? or maybe people whose wealth in vietnam came from agents working for the usa? I wonder what some people in vietnam would do if others in vietnam were revealed to be agents to the usa? I wonder. .... 02182026 Citation https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12438-if-you-live-in-the-usa-how-many-have-died-from-the-cold-in-the-city-where-you-live-in/#findComment-80180 osted just now @Pioneer1 On 2/16/2026 at 8:15 PM, Pioneer1 said: Thanks for reminding me. pleasure On 2/16/2026 at 8:15 PM, Pioneer1 said: I know New York harbors a large wealthy Black population, but outside of entertainers like athletes and actors....where is the large Black wealth in Los Angeles? Perhaps it was the circles I was in but the few times I went to Los Angeles, the majority of Black folks I saw there were living the street life. Either homeless or criminals. There were a few wealthy Black lawyers and doctors but the overwhelming majority of wealthy Black folks I saw in LA were in the entertainment industry and despite what you see on television, they make up only a tiny part of Los Angeles' population. Most of the Black folks there were on or in the streets. Or locked up. Detroit, Atlanta, and D.C. each have more Black people with good jobs and moderate wealth than Los Angeles has. Although the Black wealthy in Los Angeles probably have a much higher per capita income because they tend to be entertainers instead of corporate and government workers. Expand Los angeles is the city of entertainment? hollywood right? beverly hills right? The entertainment industry in los angeles whites say makes 500,000 jobs. I am 100% certain the tech sector in los angeles, the real estate industry in los angeles, the aerospace and defense don't hire that many. So... I am alittle confused to how you view entertainment as a business. You can't discount the entertainers in los angeles. Does anyone discount the number of white entertainers in los angeles? why are black entertainers: musicians/athletes/thespians/ similar discountable for black wealth? ... the majority of all people in any big city are poor. You think most whites in nyc own a business? most white asians in NYC don't own a business or are employed legally. most white latinos in nyc don't own a business and are not employed in NYC. again, i sense uneven approaches. I imagine the majority of most wealthy people in los angeles are in the entertainment business cause the city has a huge entertainment industry. What financial logic do you use? Are you suggesting black people in los angeles should be farmers? Well, I don't know where your from or where you live but in NYC, Los angeles has never been viewed as majority black. Sections of los angeles are majority black, but los angeles has always been described in nyc media as majority white, white anglos + white latinos. "good jobs" oh Pioneer... i must remember you have an extreme negative bias towards black entertainers. What is the fiscal range in your opinion of what you call moderate wealth? Absent that lets look at the cities in question. The black populace in detroit is circa 76% of the total in the city, circa 490,000 the black populace in atlanta is circa 46% of the total in the city , circa 235,000 the black populace in district of columbia is circa 43% of the total in the district, circa 291,000 the black populace in los angeles is circa 8.5% of the total in the city circa 329,000 Well... The black populace of Los Angeles is , taking out detroit which is an odd city, bigger than the black populace of any of those places you mentioned. So los angeles based on quantity has a higher chance of having more people in all fiscal levels than atlanta or d.c. To detroit... detroit is an oddity in the united states of america. Detroit at the height of the automotive industry was overhwelmingly white, but when the auto industry changed is industrial behavior + white flight, detroit became majority black in a big way. Wayne county around Detroit is as white as detroit city is black. so...Detroit is arguably the only city north of mason dixie that had or has one million people in it in the history of the usa that is majority black. Philadelphia had the biggest black populace of any city but philadelphia was never majority black. NYC has the largest black populace of any city but was never majority black. A number of southern cities have been majority black, but detroit is the only northern city I can think of so... Detroit is an oddity, demographically. I can imagine detroit as a majority black city , in the north, has a larger percentage of varied black wealth, not just your hated black entertainers. On 2/16/2026 at 8:15 PM, Pioneer1 said: What other LOGICAL and VIABLE choice do these Black enclaves have BUT to live with it? Ahhh PEr this forum we all tend to find ourselves in our discourse back where our forebears were when the usa was being founded. logic/meaning reason/ meaning thinking is a dangerous word. The problem with logic as a word is logic doesn't mean conclusion, logic means thinking. So you ask what other thinking choice do black enclaves have but to live with it? The answer is the eternal one, they have infinite choices, as all human beings do. The question is not the choices, the question is what are they willing to live with. the positive or negative actions after, more commonly called consequences plus prosequences. When people jumped off the enslaved boats to their death, over the atlantic ocean , the resting home of 90% of our enslaved forebears, they were logical. They were thinking, they were not illogical, but they didn't come up with the reasoning the logic that others who could had jumped and didn't came up with. The question is right or wrong? and the answer is no right or wrong exists. Humans are free to choose. I repeat, when the irish republican army , only 500 people, for the record, a very small minority of irish, blew up everything and everyone, including other irish people to get england to give up ireland as a dominion, they were logical. they were reasoning, they were thinking. I argue, 99% of irish didn't come up or like their thinking, but not liking anothers thinking doesn't make it illogical. It is all logic. Now viability, a thing via, from the latin vita which means life. What choice is best to live? well, first the history of white terror in the usa proves no choice black people make guarantees safety from white violence in the usa. The parents of george stinney did the viable thing when their son was executed absent any level of legal evenness. His parents didn't burn or attack anything and continued to live in south carolina, never even leaving the state so.... making a viable choice does not preclude a positive choice. One can argue that stinney's relative being the first black attorney general of south carolina is some sort of balance, but I find that an ugly viewing. black PEople in the present/future of the usa don't balance the past suffering by black people in the usa by getting jobs. Nothing brings back a dead body. Nothing will repair Black Tulsa. Nothing will rebuild Rosewood. So, based on history in the usa , the most viable thing black enclaves in the usa can do in the usa is accept/tolerate [they are not the same words but the severity of the situation means either word is used based on how a black person sees this scenario] white terror or white power , whether terrible or irritating or any in between. But, viability doesn't mean positivity. And viability doesn't have to be considered for logic or thought. On 2/16/2026 at 8:15 PM, Pioneer1 said: Since....unlike Black America....they are a relatively sovereign nation, they can do with them as they please. not relatively, china is a powerful country, vietnam like many countries about china in modernity are militaristically trying to figure out how to serve china + the usa, taiwans biggest trading partner is still china so even taiwan is trying to serve both countries. Not easy for little countries to be about powerful ones, ask Cuba. Black america is for black americans which is the black DOS + black indigenous [not all indigenous people are black] populaces from modern day canada to argentina. Black USA is not soveriegn but the usa is a majority white country so , black USA will never have the populace to not have such agents in them. @ProfD On 2/16/2026 at 8:31 PM, ProfD said: As a result of the Vietnam war, there's a whole lot of Vietnamese Americans in the USA. War is big business. A lot of wealth is generated & transferred as a result of it. wait a minute, don't blame the vietnam war for immigration of vietnamese. The culprit for all immigration in the usa has been fiscally wealthy whites. In Vietnamese case in Louisiana and Arabs case in Michigan, whites hated the demographic makeup of big city oddities: new orleans + detroit city and saw an opportunity to change the demographics of these black regions of these white states and also get immigrant populaces who spend alot of money and as modernity proves are in a more legally convenient situation for white power than DOSers. It was not the vietnam war. For the world is full of war zones. Afghans were not invited en masse when the usa was supporting afghans opposing russia as the soviet union. And yes war is big business, so is peace though. The difference between war and peace is not that either isn't big business, but that war which is negative in nature, destructive in nature, allows for positive opportunities very hard to come by in peace, in parallel, peace which is positive in nature, constructive in nature, allows for negative opportunities very hard to come by in war. Both are fiscal prudent, just have different natures. @Pioneer1 On 2/17/2026 at 4:06 PM, Pioneer1 said: I remember going down there years ago and seeing them down there by the thousands and wondering how they got down there and why? They were war refugees and their descendants. you already knew why, they were there for the same reason a representative of the louisiana state legislature said after katrina devastated New Orleans that god did what we couldn't. Whites in louisiana have always tried to destroy new orleans. Like new york city's relationship to the rest of new york state, new orleans relationship to the rest of louisiana is misaligned. the reason being both cities, new york city or new orleans weren't started by the english heritage. New York city doesn't get its multiracial heritage from the english but from the dutch. the dutch like all white europeans had a very imperial nature, but the dutch were used to multiracial life in europe to succeed financially, which the english were not. the english were made up of many peoples but have a heritage of cultural destruction of peoples in england to make one. while holland is used to cultural complexitiy in itself to survive the french/english/german bullies that rubbed off in NYC, which is the most culturally complex city internally of all cities in humanity. New Orleans has a similar problem, when the whites from haiti arrived in new orleans , after the haitian freeing, they embraced slavery but had embraced a simple idea that blacks are not bound to enslavement forever. So in new orleans pathways to freedom existed that when the usa buys the louisiana purchase , the whites coming from the states were philosophically opposed to new orleans multiracial way. which has never left the rest of louisiana. The states in the usa are to often viewed to crudely. Some are small or simple. A delaware, a conneticutt, a wisconsin dont have the largest populaces, are monoracial in majority but some states are messy, complex, california/new york/ michigan/florida/texas ... they have regions which are in conflict with each other. Because of the federalism from lincoln onward, states don't have the internal battles they used to so it seems foreign to many who don't know usa history or dismiss usa history for modern perceptions. I argue Nagin should had called for new orleans to be its own state in the union after the actions of louisiana, but he didn't have the courage or wisdom or strategic skill for that , which would be required as many in the usa, don't like ideas in government that demand true thoughtfulness. That Pax, peace of the usa is built on not rocking the boat. 02182026 Citation https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12438-if-you-live-in-the-usa-how-many-have-died-from-the-cold-in-the-city-where-you-live-in/#findComment-80186 @ProfD right but rich whites are why the immigration was allowed. if rich whites didn't want vietnamese in, for whatever reason... it doesn't have to be financial or it can be demographic, vietnamese wouldn't be in. . The vietnamese did not get in cause they wanted it, they were allowed in. that is the point. it isn't wars or the fall of saigon or anything else. When the usa left vietnam with vietnamese hanging on to the helicopters, that proves my point. 02202026 Citation https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12438-if-you-live-in-the-usa-how-many-have-died-from-the-cold-in-the-city-where-you-live-in/#findComment-80217 osted just now @Pioneer1 14 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: You compare Los Angeles with Detroit by highlighting the Black populations of both cities without factoring in the NON-BLACK populations and how that affects the success (or lack there of) of each city. A high Black population with a low non-Black population....such as places like Detroit, Atlanta, and D.C....ensures more Black success because there is less competition WITH that Black population. As opposed to Los Angeles with millions of Whites and Latinos conspiring together to keep Black success to a minimum. Not compare I quote myself 14 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: The black populace of Los Angeles is , taking out detroit which is an odd city, I said that for a reason. I was taking Detroit out of comparison with los angeles because it is such a unique example. Detroit is an oddity. First most cities/towns that are majority black are in former confederate states, where said states have a institutionalized anti black ness. New Orleans or Baton Rouge lousiiana/Jackson Mississippi /montgomery alabama or similar are majority black cities but the states they are in have a huge heritage of anti black. Michigan isn't pro black but Michigan is northern, it isn't as anti black as louisiana. Second, detroit's percentage of the whole who are black is in the rare range. Most cities in the usa that have a certain total quantity, don't have anywhere near the percentage of black as detroit. So... I wasn't dismissing detroit, I just think detroit is uncomparable to any other city in the usa when it comes to the scene the black populace has in it. For me atlanta or district of columbia can't be put aside detroit because the larger environment is too anti black in atlanta or D.C. Those white counties about atlanta or D.C. make me think of Black Tulsa or Rosewood all the time. Wayne county that detroit sits in is anti black, but they tend to be more hands off with detroit overall. And remember your original point was that los angeles had questionable levels of success , and I refuted that. White man says the wealthiest black region /community is in los angeles, not prince george county for d.c. , not the rich black suburb about atlanta. I never suggested los angeles is an ideal place or black people should model our activities from the black people in los angeles, but you asserted an financial impotency in black los angeles that I don't think is true. I concur that black activity should go to where black percentages are more advantaged. It helps with votes for government, it helps with overall communal energy. But Black Los angeles finance based on entertainment isn't a knock down or lesser than because black los angeles will never have the role or access to government than black atlanta or moreover, in Detroit. I think black l.a. has its positives. 14 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Choose what? Complacency over annihilation? Outside of Divine Help.....which is Real but we don't control it.....what other "choices" do subjugated people have? I repost what I said On 2/18/2026 at 7:08 PM, richardmurray said: I repeat, when the irish republican army , only 500 people, for the record, a very small minority of irish, blew up everything and everyone, including other irish people to get england to give up ireland as a dominion, they were logical. they were reasoning, they were thinking. I argue, 99% of irish didn't come up or like their thinking, but not liking anothers thinking doesn't make it illogical. It is all logic. Many peoples in humanity 2026 are subjugated, some fight, albeit disadvantaged, some try to assimilate to their bully [black dos for the most part], some try to flee to a new shore [ that is white zionist]. And more options exist. Their are options. Nothing is easy. Nothing is simple. But options exist. 14 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Are you serious or joking? Well, I didn't make a suggestion absent explaining why did it happen. That is a complete thought. Making an assertion to the past absent explaining why it did or did not happen is incomplete. I don't know what is joking or serious about my suggestion. The usa has a history of states being made out of former ones. And the reason why those states were made fits new orleans , new yorks, arguably, detroits problem as well. The part of a state needs are being undercut by another part of the state. Small states exist. Conneticut or delaware aren't huge in size. D.C. isn't a state but is very tiny and an administrative region. I think new orleans , new york, detroit, as states in the union would help them. it would hurt louisiana/new york state/michigan but ....I argue louisiana has shown itself to be an enemy of New Orleans from Katrina onward. A city , especially one majority one race can not thrive in a state majority another race. Survive yes, do decent yes, but not thrive or strive. And at least, no black city in the usa from rosewood onward has been able to survive white oppression/terror in various forms. 02232026 Citation https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12438-if-you-live-in-the-usa-how-many-have-died-from-the-cold-in-the-city-where-you-live-in/#findComment-80286 osted just now @Pioneer1 On 2/21/2026 at 1:49 PM, Pioneer1 said: Also unlike New York and even Chicago, Detroit has a lot of single family houses with front and back yards that Black people from down South are used to. They like the spacious living that you don't find in New York or Philly. I didn't know this about detroit, i love architecture so thank you. On 2/21/2026 at 1:49 PM, Pioneer1 said: I wouldn't want to live in a place were any nigga walking down the street can just reach in and GRAB my lady's ass if the window is open....lol. Why don't you write for 50 cent, you can definitely write the stories that work in his fiction On 2/21/2026 at 1:49 PM, Pioneer1 said: Apparently you don't know as much about the Detroit area as you THINK you do....lol. Detroit is not only Black but even many of it's SUBURBS are Black too, including those in Wayne and Oakland counties. Wayne county has over a half dozen other Black cities in it like Inkster, River Rouge, and Highland Park. Wayne county also has an AfroAmerican Sheriff and Prosecutor No I don't. I know some other suburbs in wayne county were black but i was unaware to the sheriff prosecutor or other. That is a good sign. On 2/21/2026 at 1:49 PM, Pioneer1 said: Not only is that highly unlikely but it's highly unadvisable. It's not big enough and doesn't have enough resources for statehood. wait a minute, rhode island is small. it is said to have circa 1545 square miles. in land only is circa 1,034 square miles. the metropolitan new orleans area is circa 3,755. Now the city proper is circa 350 square miles. So in terms of land, if the city goes with its metropolitan area, it passes the minimum. But as for resources, even just New Orleans proper doesn't have any more or less resources than rhode island. I said before, it wasn't likely, that wasn't my point. My point was the solution for new orleans and new york city is statehood. And the reason being is simply the disconnect between either city and the states they are apart of. You know, when KAtrina hit, what did whites towns in the remainder of louisiana do? did they help the black residents of new orleans? no, they stood on the road with guns to prevent black people fleeing a natural disaster from coming in their white towns. that is louisiana. I can't believe you don't see the truth in that. the governor of Lousiana was fully in support of ripping black people from new orleans taking them to all sorts of places in the usa, many or most to never return. Why couldn't the white governor of louisiana ask for the more affordable option of housing the blacks of new orleans among the white towns of louisiana? why cause ... he doesn't like blacks. How can't you see that simple truth? and as i know you love the law, the law wasn't broken by white people standing on their property with guns, but it was definitely a message. Again, my point isn't that it will happen, but it is clearly the only solution for new orleans as a black city to thrive. white Louisiana limits black new orleans, this is a proven fact in near history so separation is the only solution for long term large betterment of black new orleans. There is no shame admitting what needs to happen can't happen. But no shame also exist in admitting nothng else but what needs to happen will work. 02232026 Citation https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12438-if-you-live-in-the-usa-how-many-have-died-from-the-cold-in-the-city-where-you-live-in/#findComment-80296 sted just now @ProfD But Profd, your not mentioning the sequence in the dialog between me and pioneer. you quote me but don't refer to the issue i am referring. No one questioned the financial influencers, me nor pioneer. the steps were as follows. 1) I said new orleans need to be its own state, I didn't say it will happen, but I said it was needed based on near history , at the least. ... new orleans is the state where white people threw dynamite at fellow whites in the mississippi river and blew them up for being northerners... so whites of louisiana ... anyway 2) pionner then says, it will never happen and then added it isn't big enough or have the resources. 3) i replied that it is big enough as a metropolitan space and has no more or less resources than rhode island, deleting the claim of it being geographically or resource wise invalid. and I repeated I didn't say it would happen but it is needed. No one questioned the financial vultures on the pain of Black New Orleans. But the reality is, gardless of the money, black new orleans need to be its own state. Any action through the government will not work, why ?the constitution gives all powers not mentioned to the federal government to the states, not the counties, not the cities. so state level power is mandatory for certain levels of things. You can't get around that legally, unless you are going to change the federal law to extend state powers to counties and cities which i am 100% will have a lot of opposition and not just from the money but the poor who comprehend the complexity of that. and the usa is never been good at complexity. Now if your arguing, find a way for the financial sector to make new orleans become a state. You need to say that first and foremost, that should not be implied by " follow the money" But, the problems with that is nature of most fiscal concerns in the usa today are publicly traded, which means they are global in citizenship view, which means they are against the adding of governmental layers of bureaucracy. If anything all... most of the business concerns want is an end to louisiana and just a federal government. That will make it more profitable. so, I don't see any financially feasible path for monied concerns to lead the way in new orleans becoming its own state. The fact that new orleans would be a city state also means they don't have the land to offer business concerns. I can see maybe the crypto currency people if new orleans had lots of land to give, but it doesn't, no city state does have lots of land to give, historically. that is why they are called city states. and Most city states, today, Monaco/SIngapore/macau/hong kong/really small islands in the caribbean are city states because of circumstances. hong Kong and Macau was made because china was impotent and the english and protuguese wanted trading cities in strategic locations. China would never have made that deal if strong. Many details. Monaco sits between france and italy and in a way spain, an area at one time of countless wars so monaco wasin a war zone. kind of like the cities in Kashmir. and out of that to modernity came monaco . New Orleans doesn't have a situation to aid it, it can only literally use the legal system in the usa which allows for states to be made. the constitution says https://legalclarity.org/how-does-a-new-state-become-a-state/ https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/article-4/ New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress. so what does this mean? Detroit + New Orleans as parts of states, with the consent of the lousiiana + michigan state legislatures + the congress can become a new state. Now legally, I argue, both cities as black cities can make an argument that the state legislatures of michigan + louisiana based on their makeup , as mostly white, and the history of their legsilation which is mostly anti black, have a bias that would never consent to the creation of the new state, thus demands legal interpretation of article 4, which when it was made didn't consider the needs of black municipalities in the usa in white states. I think it is an even argument. And not all states are physically contiguous so that isn't a problem. 02252026 Citation https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12438-if-you-live-in-the-usa-how-many-have-died-from-the-cold-in-the-city-where-you-live-in/#findComment-80319 osted just now @ProfD On 2/23/2026 at 9:47 PM, ProfD said: I didn't think about the rules to posting in your threads. very funny On 2/23/2026 at 9:47 PM, ProfD said: Black cities cannot become states because they do not have enough Black-owned private industry to sustain them. If the white businesses/employers oull up stakes & leave where would the black folks work? The state would have to produce enough tax revenue to sustain itself & qualify for federal funds too. Small states i.e. Delaware, Rhode Island, Vermont, Connecticut, Wyoming, Utah, etc., have on thing in common. Expand Well, in the usa in 2026, all states in the usa get a welfare check every year from the federal government, without that federal check even California, which is touted , correctly, as the wealthiest state in the union, would have to go into receivership. So a black state would get by law, the same welfare check from the federal government. Every major city or city with the populace of New Orleans or more , biggest employer is the city itself. Detroit's biggest employer is detroit city, nyc biggest employer is nyc, los angeles biggest employer is los angeles city. No major city in the usa today has a bigger employer than itself. And every city gets money from the state, but if New Orleans is a city-state then instead of what new orleans get because of louisiana, which is white, the federal government would give new orleans, and if the legal system is still running then new orleans as a state can go to court if being treated unevenly to other states, and even the constitutionalists would have to vote in favor of new orleans. going back to article 4 of the constitution. Now as for private business in new orleans, well... pipeline, goes through new orleans, but the city gets a tax from that. And the pipeline isn't going anywhere. The pipeline will be against it cause it is another tax but if New Orleans gets through the stated legal situation to be a state the pipeline can't go anywhere. Next is the french quarter... moving a building is not cheap. Let alone finding a place for it. If they leave the buildings they can go but that will leave all the french quarter buildings for the city. The city can make laws in contingency for this. Let alone that many buildings in the french quarter are under historic preservation licenses so the city can use that to manage the buildings new owners of if city owned new use. The new orleans saints can move, though i think the nfl demands the other owners vote to allow these things which is expensive, and if the new state can provide a better scenario than louisiana, the owner of will stay. The whites of cajun country will not want to leave, they are tied to cajun country and if anything, a number of them will probably want to join new orleans the state if new orleans the state can make in its state law something cajuns have always wanted from english speaking louisiana and that is stronger protections for cajuns who are generally fiscally poor on their historic land. So... first the city is the biggest employer, but as for white businesses, all but pipelines can leave as you suggest but each is expensive. You seem to suggest money will just be made, I don't think so. it is 2026. Lastly, yes, small states tend to be ninety percent and above white, but the point of this stream wasn't to suggest new orleans , a black city, or detroit, a black city, will become a state. The point was to state the truth, that is detroit/new orleans/ and even white new york city, financially needs is a separation from the states they are in because each one of them is demographically too other from the rest of the state they are in. Each one of them is stymied, financially, by that truth, that only statehood can free them from. Again, the first projects in the usa were in NYC, NYC's plan, all white government, was to place the projects upstate new york, the diea was to keep the city white but offer places for the poor, the poor being mostly white themselves though people in the usa still don't comprehend most poor people are actually white in the usa, upstate. The proof is that the first projects in nyc to this day have never had anybody black in them and the white people in them are fiscally poor. But the white towns upstate new york have always hated/disliked/distrusted the , and I quote, the rotters of NYC. the law abiding white towns of upstate new york didn't want poor people of any kind and as NYC's population blew up with fiscally poor nonwhites, from here there or everywhere, NYC made more projects in NYC. But NYC was always at upstate ny states mercy because the governor of New York's main voting base isn't NYC, it is all the law abiding white towns above new york city that got or get away with killing/harming/injuring black people in the past to this day. So I end with my point, no financial argument to new orleans not becoming a state for its betterment holds any water.