richardmurray

@Delano that was funny, well done, rarely do i find anything funny in here, well done. and I apologize:) @Pioneer1 Even enough, most of the educational organizations you suggest are operated like private institutions motivated by profit seeking and revenue increase have never increased profit or revenue and live off welfare by the government for over thirty years. so ok. but I do have three questions 1) did you ask the large language model to delete college scams? Private universities include all of those scam colleges like trump university and everything. You are a crude fiscal capitalistic so I am prepared to read you think those scams warrant labeling as colleges of learning. 2) Based on your position, if New York City opens up marijuana dispensaries they can be considered private institutions, even if they never earn a profit and have an ever increasing expense which warrants debt growth by the government? Cause the federal government grows debt to maintain funding the colleges and universities like the airlines, like the farms like the banks like the film industries, like the real estate industry. And even though everything i just mentioned financially collapsed, completely failed financially, you consider all those things, private institutions no matter how unable they are to actually make money, no matter how much debt the government incurs to keep them afloat. 3) In the future , if a president restricts federal funds to a college or university and it folds, that isn't the fault of said president ? Because these colleges are private institutions, which are not the governments responsibility to fund. Private institutions are the responsibility of the financiers, so if the failing financiers are no longer given welfare at the behest of a president for whatever reason, which Schrumpt is opening any future president of the usa to have the power to do, that president isn't going against fiscal capitalism. they are treating that college like the bank would a bad debtor or like white people like to treat black people on welfare. but the country you call your home, claim's to be about freedom is the biggest slaver... many governments claim many things, why does china have to be the most honest government in the world when the usa/england/france are still active. That is not true, imperialism isnt about fiscal capitalism, imperialism is about power. Did you know the term emperor originally meant what many will call today a warlord. imperialsm isn't about finance, imperialism is about whether your country is subject to another or not. China is the only non white european government in humanity free to do as it wants in itself. China is free from anyone's imperialism, including japan's. And china to its credit has no desire in being the global police force, like the usa.

@ProfD I admit that I am speaking from a life of comfort. It is easy to say people don't need encouragement when one has always been encouraged, helped, supported in their personal life, by family... not sanguine but family whether blood related or not. I do value encouragement less than in the black populace. I think about circa 1865, when african methodist episcopal pastors were preaching encouragements to black people to use a nonviolent methodology. And I am against the heritage that created which persists to this day. The episcopal is a pastor, episcopalians believe in the role and function of the pastor as a guide [this is opposed to the gnostics who believe no one individual can be as knowledgeable about the spiritual affairs, including pastors or popes] anyway, the methodists believe in a life led by a lifestyle, the bushido from the people of nippon is a similar idea. when i look at the AME heritage it fits. Black person acts as a guide to the black group by preaching persisitance to a way of life, in DOSers case, it is nonviolent participation in the usa, regardless of white activity and I admit I am sick of hearing it. I think it is dysfunctional. Black people don't need encouragement, most black people need to presented ideas. The black people who spoke at the million man march was the same encouragement nonsense. A bunch of episcoopals of various religions or no religion, preaching the continuance of the nonviolent method in the usa regardless of the usa or the white people in it.. I am tired of that. From who is my question Black children? no , black children don't earn billions of dollars. Black prisoners? no, how many prisons even have a chapel these days? Black welfare recipients? no, they don't have income to dispose, that is why they are on welfare. They can't pay their standard bills so, no way. Black elders? maybe some, but how many. I can see the black elders who come to the old church in the city every sunday from their home in the suburbs. Quite a few of them, all over the usa. yeah , but they are a fraction of black elders, a definitive minority. But the money is good. Black soldierS? maybe, i know many soldiers are religious. but soldiers have families, tend to complain about cost of living. so i can't imagine too many of them. Definitely, the officers. but rank and file, no way. Then I think about Barrack Obama sitting in that black mega church, that black guy with a mega church "walk by faith not by sight" I recall seeing that somewhere, made me laugh. So, yeah , your right, billions do go through the black churches, from the black one percent. And the black one percent is like the white one percent, this isn't the whole black populace. At this moment in time, It isn't that I challenge the presence of billions in the black populace in the usa, but I challenge its source. It isn't the common black masses, it is the black one percent, the black wealthy. and they are a very small but financially very wealthy populace so... talk to them. Even enough, I have made my case. The numbers fit in my case. The black one percent isn't a large populace BUT, they have the financial scale to make the multitude of billions per year. It fits them: black officers in the military, black elders of weallth especially from the black churches, black entertainers , black elected officials. black business owners with many of them networked into the other groups. John Starks has one of the biggest dealerships in NY metropolitan area but a millionaire black athlete networked with other millionaire black athletes. I forge tthe former detroit piston who owns a computer programming firm. yeah, it all fits, but they are all black one percenters. the black wealthy. And I am 100% black churchs in NYC, are very tribal. I knwo for a fact that many of them, network opportunities amongst their specific tribes within the black village. I can see the black one percent fueling money into churches. Cause again, NYC's black churches that are standing strong are attached to black one percenters . many black churches have gone under, but those were where regular folk, financially went, thus no money. I am convinced that the black one percent is the source of the billions. Now maybe the white man is lying about the percentages, but based on the percentages the white man has collected and the financial reality of prisoners/soldiers/children/welfare recipients/black one percent, the black one percent is the source of the billions. Black one percenters do spend on vanity like all people with money. A cotillion is expensive. High end clothes are expensive. cars are expensive. I think you fiscally underestimate the cost of homes for the black one percent. Those homes are expensive per month. Those homes they have are gross /large consumerism. Now to be even, the only group in the black populace in the usa who could have any significant consumerism is the black people on welfare. Black Teachers or nurses are on welfare, starting in the 1970s, so black people working while on welfare isn't new it is very old. But, I will not chagrin black poor people,upper poor people, affording themselves something to enjoy, as gross consumerism. Consumerism, yes, but it isn't gross. I am 100% certain with those i know on welfare that 90% of black people on welfare don't have gross consumerism, if gross consumerism is defined as based on the fiscal scale of what is consumed, not the presence of consumerism. Cause I happen to know there are some blacks who like to suggest gross consumerism is consumerism itself, which I oppose. In NYC, it was recently unveiled that over 95% of white children in the orthodox jewish schools can't pass the basic state wide exams while they have schools full of trips around the world and game rooms and swimming pools. So, for any blacks who feel that black children who passed and are passing their state exams at a hell of a higher rate with schools absent any amenities or opportunities can't get a few pairs of sneakers from their parents on welfare, i say fuck off. we? well humanity en large is going through a labor movement reality with large language models and other similar computer programs. I don't know what will happen. I see many options, the choices various people need to make haven't been made to see a clear path yet. Right, well they are acting exempt in majority and I repeat I don't blame them. Black wealth in modernity comes from struggle and rarely do black people have the fortune to get it through crimes or illegalities, and even when we do, it is absent the ease of whites. So black people tend to be frightened of poverty. For too many blacks poverty is a sign of self, which is hilarious historically. we didn't enslave ourselves into boats. And 90% of the black folk in the boats died over the ocean, they never made any shores so, ... that is historical fact, sadly it is also a generalization, whom among blacks is where the details reside and the details is where black people tend to make assumptions on other black people based on hope or encouragement, not truth. me neither, common ground, finally

@ProfD your epiphany is false but ok the subject me and pioneer was debating which i opened to the floor is about truth. Guessing what will happen is hypothetical but stating what can happen is merely the truth. I am not interested in prescience to the future. I don't know the future, nor will I assume it, but I do know possibilities and when possibilities are falsely suggested as impossible, that to me are lies. that is alie. lehmann was allowed to go bankrupt. In the past thirty years all sorts of firms of various financial scale have gone bankrupt. your mischaracterizing situations as allowances. They are not the same thing. yes, we meaning the regular posters of this forum have displayed we each have various views on why or how the usa is powerful. let alone the definition of power. yes I concur if what your saying is what I just said. of course, the truth is, no government ever has been as big a threat as any country as advertised, that is human history. ok what is it with you and @Pioneer1 and the chinese? did white man give a job you had to chinese or something? the white man of the usa let chinese in so I find the idea of chinese power silly in that sense, the chinese didn't force anything, the white man of the usa did this. You accept white power, well white power did it, that wasn't white asian but white european power. You and pioneer, with the chinese. I saw the pew maps, the mexicans and the chinese and the indians are the three groups coming in most. You and pioneer never speak of mexicans so i guess you two are unthreatened by them. you never mentions indians, I have no idea why but you two are on a chinese rant thing. earlier than that, the first czar under the golden horde was the beginning of russias long history with chaos internally. It isn't just because, but mostly because. ask iran about the value of nuclear weapons. oh machiavelli so many blacks love to speak of the chess game, and chess is really a poor strategy game but anyway.

@ProfD And had help, you never mention with the people you call financially successful, why do you always omit the help they got? What is that about? really, again, i have done economic corners going through the labor numbers white people themselves state, most people in the usa aren't employed to live on their own without subsidy, and that is all demographics. And then you add the number of black people in prison, in institutions, in the military which isn't profitable. The numbers don't add up to the wealth you suggest the black populace in the usa has, let alone any populace. the white populace doesn't have the wealth suggested by media. it isn't there. The government gives people money , that isn't their wealth. If you need government subsidy to afford your life you don't have wealth. You and other blacks keep saying financial lies like this on our populace in the usa, I wonder what your agenda really is. Maybe your not black. if you insult, i will call you out as an insulter. I will ask you stop insulting black history if you do it, every single time. I don't give strangers, which is what you are to me, demands. I don't know you. I am not trying to know you. We communicate online only. Now having said that, be the most rude now, you don't know me. so, it is no harm. what billions? black prisoners are getting billions, from who? black people on welfare are getting billions, from who? black solders are getting billions, from who? Numbers don't add up. How many black college graduates have thousand of dollars of student debt they will never be able to pay? who has this billions you are speaking of? white man says black people are 50 million people in the usa. so for fifty million to make one billion a month is twenty dollars a month. Now, cut out black children who aren't making any money. White man say twnety seven percent are children. So fifty million minus thirteen million and five hundred thousand gets you thrity six million and five hundred. Now white man says 37% of black people are in prison or in jail in the usa. so... that is eighteen million and five hundred. so let's subtract eighteen million and fife hundred from thirty six million and five hundred which is the total black populace minus the kids who aren't making any money. That gets you eighteen million black people. Comprehend thirty seven percent + twenty seven percent is is sixty four percent, who are children or in jail prison, so no money. Now white man says one million and three hundred and thirty active soldiers are in the military and seventeen percent are black. so thhat is two hundred and twenty six thousand black folk who are making no money as rank and file, black generals are making money but their exact number i don't know and I will ignore. So that is now seventeen million, seven hundred and seventy four thousand. Now white man says twelve percent of black people in the usa are the elderly so between healthcost/rent/food and et cetera whether they use it themselves or have singed away their freedom, willingly or unwillingly , to a prison called an old folks home. that is six million so, seventeen thousand, seven hundred and seventy four minus six million which is eleven million, seven hundred and seventy four thousand. Now, white man says, twenty five percent of black people are on welfare which means they can't financially support themselves without aid from the government. So, we have from the prior calculations eleven million seven hundred and seventy thousand minut twelve million and five hundred thousand. which is negative seven hundred and twenty six thusand. If you notice, between 27% children + 37% in jail+ 12% elderly + 25% welfare that is 101% or one hundred and one part of a hundred, so what does this mean? If we hold the same statistics true from whites that black have billions of dollars per year, it isn't the children, black children earn twenty dollars a month? it isn't the people in prison. Prison labor is real but it is far below market rate, ala slavery. and most prisoners don't work. it isn't the elders with their costs, they are looking for constant savings for rent or food or medicine because they don't have it. it isn't the soldiers, soldiers stipend is over twenty dollars a month. ok, but taking soldiers out doesn't get the numbers positive, and it is well known many/most soldiers use financial assistance. It obviously isn't the people on welfare getting assistance. you can't say you earn money when you need assistance to live. the assistance is allowing what you earn to be spent other ways, that means you are in the red and being augmented, like goldman sachs. That isn't wealth. But then who? As I have always said, and who has always existed in the usa, or the english colonies that preceded it. It is the black one percent. One percent of fifty million is five hundred thousand. Which means each of the five hundred thousand would have to make two thousand a month to get to a billion. yeah, I can see that. The NFL has seventeen hundred athletes , seventy percent are black. five hundred and thirty seven athletes in the nba. successful musicians like beyonce or jayz, yeah. The numbers fit now. Black people like you have been saying erroneously, that somehow the larger village has billions. No, children/in jail/elderly/welfare recipient/soldiers. none of the above can say they earn twenty dollars a month. But the black one percent: entertainers[athletes/musicans/pundits/agents]+ the one percent of black elders with with like black enterprise folk mention+ the black one percent of soldiers who are generals or captains with a nice bit of wealth+ black one percent of elected officials like Barrack Obama and company yeah, they can reach five hundred thousand and each are easily making over two thousand a month. Yeah, your right, ProfD, the Black one percent is making billions per year. So please talk to them, but stop lying on the black financially common or impoverished masses. and as was discussed in this very form, the black one percent are a very financially stringent group, they don't gamble. they don't risk their money. they tend to invest with white cause that is safer than investing their own. So , you already know what the black one percent is doing with their money. So thus ends your points, cause no body else black has money. I know percy julian had to fight to get his chemistry firm started in the 1900s and he couldn't do it in the usa because of white power, and had to fight constantly for his business to even existeven while in mexico, by white powers of the usa , so if you are asking how many black owned engineering firms were started by DOSers when white folks allowed it in the usa, circa 1980. I imagine many black engineering firms have been started. . I offhand know of a black chipmaker who is in flux, a black owned chemical firm who went out of business. As the cost of starting a business has always risen this isn't easy. And white restriction to black empowerment has never faded away completely. And, I comprehend your larger point, which is terrible fiscal management. Saturation isn't a wise strategy financially. You accept the odds of business success across racial lines plus accept white power exists and is real, though you seem to suggest it is diminished in value today, which is the nitty gritty, but this means you your strategy is over saturation of business startups, but that is financially irresponsible. As someone who has started a business and failed, I don't think black people starting tons of businesses in the usa is close to financially warranted and far from wise. village has no money, black one percent can. if they want to. why don't you ask them new york by white mans own account and my own personal observations has more financially wealthy black people in it than any other city in the usa, but that doesn't mean a majority of black people in the black populace of nyc are wealthy, they are called the one percent. And the black one percent exists all throughout the usa, but again, that isn't the black populace. is that perspective you speak of based on truth or a lie. Belief isn't as important as facts financially. you can't believe money into existence, that is a lie. You can't believe opportunity into existence, that is a lie. You can believe in yourself, but assuming makes an ass out of you. in my opinion, very very few black people doubt black ability, but black people don't doubt their eyes and the truth in their lives. MAdam CJ walker was one hundred years ago, the garveyites were older, black people don't doubt what they can do, at least the black people I am connected too offline. but the black people i am connected too offline don't lie either and I don't ask them to lie. Wherever you live, maybe you want black people to think they can turn water into wine but I don't ask black people to do that. Positive thinking is one thing , false belief or lying to the environment your in or the experiences you had is another.

@Pioneer1 why didn't you mention cocaine? crack is merely cheap cocaine? crack is like those dollar beers fiscally poor people drink at times, it isn't 100 proof vodka , far from it but it does have alcohol in it. Cocaine is more potent than crack and cocaine mountains have always existed downtown manhatten in white offices and homes of the upper or lower rich and upper poor whites. What are white people thinking? I find it interesting you singled out meth and crack but didn't mention opium which is where the opiods from from, or cocaine where the crack comes from? @ProfD don't exaggerate, "felt nothing when they were killed" next you will say, they ate things that made a billy goat puke . no need for all of that In my view the most profitable enterprise is enslavement. The key today post jim crow is how enslavement has been finessed into ways, the days of crude, shackle on the throat enslavement is rare to see in the wealhy countries of the world, but slavery is still king for me. Interesting you worded it, war waged against humans... may I know who waged said war against humans? don't say the martians. @Pioneer1 lets add gambling, let's not limit addiction to substanced, i argue gambling is far more potent, if you consider how many people play the lotto in humanity, i am speaking of the lotto exists in every country with money, think about that: india/china/russia/usa/england/australia/brazil, every country has lotto or similar forms of gambling, that use of wealth that goes nowhere but to the tables pockets, alot of drugs get daily use and not just powders and elixers. @ProfD well said and I may add, this goes back to the end of the enslavement era in the usa, 1865. and back to the issue of bankruptcy and financial failure. All white wealth in the usa stems from cheating in the marketplace not penalized in contracts /illegalities not penalized in the courtroom/crimes legally allowed. This is financial fact. So it makes sense that any crime legally allowed, like drugging people, or illegalities not taken to courtroom like burning black towns and assaulting black people, will have its versions in the future. OR lastly but very important in the modern, many whites are able to benefit from the wealth gained by their bloodline in the past through various illegalities or criminalities that in modernity are inheritances, which non blacks similarly never or rarely have. BUT, my thoughts go to the black populace in the usa. The relation is simple What is black wealth over time in the usa? Black labor[education or time]+ Black drive[ambition]+ black inheritance[parents or community financing, mostly nonexistent until the 1980s]+Black networking[ connections to those black with wealth] What is white wealth over time in the usa? white inheritance[ existent since 1492 through all means of criminal or illegal behavior]+ White education[labor or time]+White drive[ambition]+White networking[ connection to whites with wealth, ala ivy league schools original purpose] Black wealth over time in the usa by those elements can never be greater than white wealth over time unless one thing happens, white inheritance has to reduce tremendously. With that it invalidates black people who mention black wealth in the usa, because I don't see the numbers add up. White networking has hundreds of years of advantage over black networking which whites wouldn't allow till the very late 1900s. White inheritance has hundreds of years of advantage over black inheritance which whites wouldn't allow till the very late 1900s. so... I don't see how the numbers add up for black people in the usa who talk of financial leaping when the white neighbor has a huge advantage built by their forebears at the detriment to our own over centuries. @Pioneer1 the answer is grow your own, but again, who stole or took black peoples land int the usa or the colonies that preceded it for hundreds of years... The sad thing about DOSers in particular is we all know if we know anything about our bloodlines history that whites took advantage of us. took land by all sorts of means from our forebears, to make sure we today didn't have land to be inherited. and then now in 2026, after white people took land our forebears could had given us over and over again over centuries, we are supposed just magically acquire land absent any inheritance what so ever. magically gain wealth absent any inheritance. magically just financially come up with gold.

@ProfD Filo + Musk who started yahoo are the only ones from truly financially humble beginnings. And, to be even, they got lucky. Again, less than 1% of all websites failed. So, the entrepreneurial spirit you are talking about failed many non blacks. so.. your argument on the whole is unfounded but... I continue Zuckerburgs father offered his son a mcdonald's franchise , how many black parents can do that or euqivalent for their children? please don't say it is common for black parents to offer the next generation wealth. Gates parents have always been on the boards of big companies, how many black parents are on the boards of large companies while their children are in high school? please don't say it is common. And don't insult black history, again, black people have been blockaded from financial wealth by whites in the usa from1 492 to 1980 nearest holistically. Jobs father is from a fiscally wealthy syrian family. wozniak's father was an engineer for lockheed. Please don't say that they are financially common. Page and BRin for Google had well connected and well off parents. working as engineers for nasa or colleges in the usa. How many black engineers have not been accepted at Nasa? that had every single thing a white engineer did. Nasa is a great job for an engineer. You are connecting with big financial channels. All of them through their relatives or communities, many are white jews or have white jewish background which has a financial aspect to it, some are simply nepo babies, that have money or access to money, like Musk, who is also from a financialy wealth white clan. You mention entrepreneurial spirit but don't mention lack of fiscally capable parents. I know few black people have fiscally aiding black parents. I know that. it is interesting to me how so many black people in the usa accept white power or white advantage but then in assessing black people, blame ourselves as if the white people who are wealthiest in the usa, aren't assisted by white power or white advantage but simply have the entrepreneurial spirit. It is very imbalanced, or uneven thinking. @Pioneer1 I give blood to a blood bank, five times a day. @Troy I have created youtube or tiktok videos to share my art, but I am not the biggest user of either platform. There are a few youtubers I like because they are informative or interesting in the arts. I like Mayowa's world cause she is a black natural haired woman who has insightful positions on black identity, accented cinema cause he makes great posts on asian cinema. I like shadversity cause they develop weapons and test them and have helped me think on weapons in my own stories. So i admit as an artist youtube has some great educational folk. What are your thoughts on what to do about lurkers? any ideas. I comprehend that bots have always been used to augment perceived activity on websites, from the early 1990s. Thinking on it for a minute, from bots to paid real members of websites to now the llm identities, the children of the bots, so much activity online is augmented... two questions come to mind. 1)Of the facebooks/twitter/youtubes/google searches/netflix or other, how many of them used bots to augment their activity to appear positive? In my mind I begin to wonder, how many websites failed cause they didn't invest in bots, didn't invest in ways to augment popularity? If you augment popularity even if you aren't making money, maybe you can keep the investments running, especially in the dot com craze days, the earlier eras of the internet when money flowed to these bleeding firms. 2) what activity online has the least lurkers? I comprehend if one is online it invites de facto lurking, at least the possibility. I guess email, but I imagine you know, if not through experience through conference with others. 3) should black owned websites invested in lurking more ? I remember when beyonce or jay-z had some media thing and it was found out it had a bunch of bots, but it seemed so late in the internet, like an old style bot drive that white people used ten years earlier?

@Pioneer1 I have done research in colleges, know others who have done research in colleges, the government in the usa is the funder for colleges and universities hands down. The private sectors level of investment in college research is no where near the governments. And again, most of the colleges are not private. Most of the colleges the usa government funds through research are not private institutions, they are public colleges which is the government. What is your personal problem with china? or chinese? first I can tell you , you are incorrect about chinese invention. But more, importantly, is second, where does this negativity toward china come from? @ProfD Well Ford never needed to be bailed out,that was general motors and chrysler, but... I do notice one thing very prevalent in alot of black online discussions concerning finance, many black people seem to have access to a crystal ball of knowledge which gives them certainty on what will happen , which only a few black folk like me, don't have access to. I never mentioned what would happen in the future, i simply stated that bakruptcy is a needed tool. Pioneer stated bankruptcy is a tool that can't be allowed for firms of a certain size. You have stated the usa will always have more than one major automaker , which has no relationship to me or pioneer point but is a grand assumption. You don't give any financial reasoning for your position nor do you seem to consider humanity en large, which has value financially. Russia+ China are real, they have their own desires or plans, the usa can't tell them what to do, this is why even though russia lost the cold war, the usa has actually never stepped foot into russia, while the usa has belitted countries absent nuclear power... that is the whole point of the nonproliferation law.

haha @Delano enjoy the rest of your weekend

@Troy Well, I don't oppose beauty pageants or support beauty pageants. My only desire is if beauty pageants exist, black owned ones exist. And black owned beauty pageants do exist so I am content. I have no concern to beauty pageants as a warranted or unwarranted thing. I am only concerned with black people owning beauty pageants if they are present, or a black person being able to own a beauty pageant if none other are present. If the question is what do I think about someone black wanting to own a beauty pageant for men ? That is their business. I support them and I hope they gain whatever they want. If you are asking me, if I will invest in a beauty pageant, female or male or other, if I had money to invest? the answer is no. and I have never wanted to be a model. I had neighbors once, a black couple, both strip models. They made great money and had huge fandoms, relatively. But none of that is for me. If you want to know off the top of my head what I rather be doing. I rather work on designing a boat and showing that off sailing it. @ProfD isn't that reality tv shows?

@ProfD really? monthly rent for hosting data, data transmisions, cost more than a dollar? if the site becomes popular you have to support that popularity with more expensive backend. the likes of facebook and tiktok have huge silos or network systems all over the world to simulate instantaneous use, that is easy? the money to get that is easy? ok, i don't think it is easy at all. And, considering how many websites have failed @Troy what percent of websites have succeeded that have been made since the 1990s in the internet? I say less than one hundreth of a percent. I think that proves getting anyone to use a website is a challenge. Which makes sense to me. A website has to have a function. Tiktok does short videos. youtube does long videos. twitter does bylines. facebook is where whole clans are connected online. instagram does photos. google is a search engine. Each major website serves a strict function. yes, you have niche players, like a tumblr/aalbc/deviantart that all serve specific or more detailed functions. yahoo search is still active. but I think most websites are failures so I don't see why most black websites being failures is anamolistic? @Pioneer1 I am paraphrasing the mariner from the film waterworld, "I have traveled farther than most online and I have never seen a websites failure based on anything but its effectiveness" In my travels, I have seen a number of chinese websites fail, japanese websites fail, french websites fail, brasilian websites fail. usa websites fail. What they each have in common is not some demographic group hurting them, but each failed or has failures or has become niche because the function they served another website served better or more robustly. When I look at black owned websites online. First and foremost I can't recall one black owned website that had a technological edge or focus. Youtube emphasized videos. Tiktok short videos. Google search. Neither was the first to do it. Other websites before youtube did videos but they didn't emphasize the technology, the investment was small, it was more toy than function. Tiktok the same. youtube literally did a short video service three years before tiktok, it failed and youtube shut it. Now youtube has shorts in response to tiktok, but what is the point. Tiktok invested in short video in a scale that gave it an edge or focus. Google wasn't the first search engine but again they focused on it, gave it an edge that others didn't. When I look at Yahoo for example, which started as a web directory. Yahoo's great flaw in their financial history was that they gave up on web directories. they assumed falsely, that the growth of the internet would make a directory unfeasible but I think they were wrong. I argue the internet could use a great web directory. And then yahoo led in email but again, didn't implement email's better over time. Blackplanet never had a technological edge, its whole selling point was a place for black people but it didn't offer a technological edge. So most black people looking to make videos went to youtube. Wanting a search used google. Sharing photos on the phones used instagram. Chatgpt, right? it is the llm use. Technological edge first and foremost leads people to anywebsite and for all the black engineers who are lauded in media for graduating from MIT or working for Goldman Sachs , I don't see any of them with any websites ideas. And yes, tech cost money on the backend, but again, this isn't 1926, 2000 wasn't 1900, some black people were billionaires so....no excuse. AALBC doesn't have a technological tool that isn't present anywhere else, if it did, that would help. Second, when I look at the internet and websites that are communally driven, most work because the culture of the particular peoples is out the sphere of anglo media. Meaning what? Overdrive was supposed to be France's answer to the social media, but most people in france went to facebook/instagram/twitter? why? is it because white people in france don't like themselves. No, it is , because the way they communicate wasn't different enough, their culture wasn't different enough than what was offered in anglo media. Black owned websites offer the same reality. Black people's culture or communication fits well enough in the anglo websites to exist. But if you are japanese/chinese who tend to have cultural websites because they have cultures/communication that doesn't fit the anglo internet as well. India doesn't have one major website, and how many firms in the usa have indians all through them? why. because indians are usually anglophiles, who culturally fit well into anglo media. Indian or French websites aren't being hindered by the women in their community , their online populace simply fits well enough in anglo websites and it makes all of their websites niche, like aalbc. I have tried to find a black populace that needs an outlet, that would help aalbc to serve a particular black populace. Third, userbases, Cristiano ronaldo is the most followed person online, he gets paid by websites for his presence. And why do the websites pay, because his presence brings users, and the greater the userbase, the greater the ad revenue, the greater the userbase, the greater the views to posts in general. AALBC hosts black authors, who are barely in the forum. If Troy paid them they would be more, as in the big websites who pay millions to people like barrack obama to be active on their websites, which helps their userbase. Now, AALBC as a niche website doesn't have to do that. But that is the reality. Tiktok/Facebook/Instagram/Youtube/twitter/even schrumpfs truth social all have big users who attract casual users. That is reality. It is uneven to ask AALBC or specifically Troy to pay people to engage. And you see this all over the internet. It isn't something rare. So, the userbase of AALBC absent attractors has limits of growth.If Beyonce+ Oprah+Neymar + Paul Kagame were on AALBC, I think this website would have a huge increase in usage. So, I don't see any blame in black women for AALBC's usage or lack thereof. I commend Troy for maintaining this large rent. As most people who own a restaurant will tell you, I am not doing this for the money, I am doing this cause I love it. But if AALBC could find a technological edge. If aalbc could reach a particular black populace whose culture was away from the anglophone, and needed particular attention. if AALBC could afford to pay for big attractors. That would change the volume, not necessarily quality, of activity on the website in a positive way. @Troy Interesting, how pervasive is lurking online? I see in discord many talk of lurkers. how many lurk online?

@ProfD I had to ask that because you may not realize but minor us automakers are us automakers. The usa has six minor automakers off the top of my head, and I know it is more. The USA has never had one automaker, so your language confused me , to be honest. I was specific in my words and your reply. confused me. Now, I will repost your quote and then give my reply comprehending you meant lone major us automaker I have another question. Sorry but your wording warrants me to ask another question. Are you saying that Ford couldn't be the lone usa automaker because after a shares buyout or bankruptcy, General Motors + chrysler would remain at least in branding while more importantly in function as major automakers OR even if broken up parts would come together to form a major automaker? I had to ask because the post original topic which you may not have read was about bankruptcy's role and me and pioneer's differing position on the function or role of bankruptcy. Me nor Pioneer were questioning the function of bailouts or bankruptcy in revitalizing assets of failing firms. I don't quite comprehend why you mentioned that. The Agnelli family made stellantis as a holding firm for all of their assets, which include chrysler. Crhysler from my view isn't a car company any more. Chrysler is like Lexus is to Toyota. Lexus isn't a car company, Toyota is a car company, lexus is a brand in a car company. Stellantis is the company, Chrysler is a brand . In the same way Oldmobile was a brand in General Motors. Brands are not car companies. They are divisions in car companies that can be deleted. Oldmobile was originally the top engineering division of General Motors. But it died a generic brand. Chrysler will go the same way more than likely. To say Chrsyler is being kept afloat by Stellantis is financially incorrect. Stellantis, bought Chrysler for its name brand, some assets, and connections in the us auto industry. @Pioneer1 please tell me who are you making this question to? If it is to me, I don't comprehend why cause I never said the usa would have one automaker , I said explicityly, one major usa automaker. well, yes intiially, when a technology is young the financial gateway to entry is less and you get many entrepreneurs. BUT, oover time the gateway to entry becomes more expensive and the competition dies. this is financial fact proven through history. No industry in humanity that is over one hundred years old has competition outside of government protection or other scenarios that maintain firms for various reasons, usually dealing with governments desire to be self reliant. Post offices for example. The easiest way to prove my point is video game manufacturers. the competition is very few firms. The multiple era is already over, but the gateway to entry is high. @ProfD You don't know me clearly @Pioneer1 Where is the basis for this position? Many people in the usa utter it, but I find no basis in truth. Colleges and universities, completely funded by the federal government of the usa are constantly, competing to make breakthroughs in the same technology. And that is the usa alone. Do I have to speak on china? all the innovations in china happen through the chinese government. Is not china the leader in many technologies. What basis does the thinking I quoted from you have in truth?

@Delano how do you define freedom? I will like to know. do you define freedom as thing for the living or a thing for the living plus the dead? no answer you make is wrong or right.

@Troy I was directed to the following location https://www.pageantplanet.com/directory/category/pageant I don't think pageants are even remotely dead or a thing whose time has "come and gone" . It is clear their time is now, even with all who oppose them. I argue that pageants need some sort of legal management.

@Delano You didn't ask me the meaning of freedom. YOu asked me And I replied, when you ask whether anyone or thing is free, define what it means to be free in the question and then I or anyone else can easily answer. I didn't ask you, you asked me. But you want me to define words that you used in your question however I wish. No, that is bad communication. You tell me how you define freedom and then I will answer your question... I seek to improve how i communicate always.

I still believe every single black person online should be a member of at least one black owned website online. But what is their overall future. When you have so many black people who suggest such a grand business acumen or knowledge of playing the game, or suggest such great foresight plus intellect with their licenses and degrees from various places of education, why haven't said blacks been able to buy and produce great social media websites?

a useful tool to share images and content online anywhere. especially if you have deviantart content. Do you know about OEMBED?

@Troy true:) I am incorrect for my assertion, thank you

People really underestimate the financial fortunes made in war. Peace never does better.

Is the lesson in guy fawkes that all populaces under each government, majorities or minorites, have one percents, a group of wealthy, who need to be courted by each government to prevent any populace from having potent strikes against striking agains.

@ProfD just for clarification, did you mean the lone major us automaker, as i asked, or the lone us automaker, which i didn't ask? once I comprehend that I can look at the rest of your reply in total. bankruptcy historically isn't designed to delete the assets of firms, but to allow for penalty to the owners or investors of firms while selling assets back into the market. Did you comprehend the original point of contention between me and @Pioneer1? @Troy Bailouts don't undermine fiscal capitalism de facto, it is implementation. the problem with the usa is the government has bailed out every single industry in the usa absent managing for it to improve. White people love touting welfare to work for black laborers but then for the industries in the usa owned by whites in whole or majority: real estate/farming/aviation/automotive/banks/dot com/crypto/green energy , they want blank welfare checks absent demanding better management by the whites who are being saved from the poor house where their financial actions led them. It is the same with tariffs. If you want to block out foreign firms that is fine, it is common in history for all governments, but you must manage the industry internal industry, the usa doesn't manage the internal. And that goes to laws that stifle competition or better, don't penalize failure enough. Look at the film studios industry in the usa. AT&T sold warner bros to discovery because AT&T wanted to get rid of the debt on a loser. AT&T spent alot of money and got no return and added debt. Discovery bought Warner Bros on the cheap on the condition of taking all the debt off of AT&Ts books. Even though AT&T were and are making very positive profits on telecommunications, they didn't want the losing film studio on the books to manipulate their stock value or influence speculation to their stock negatively. But, AT& T needed to be penalized properly, by having that sale blocked and Warner Bros closed and its assets auctioned off. AT& T should never have bought Warner Bros in the first place. Again, film studios like all media properties are financial losers historically. yes they have times of positive results but usually they are failures for obvious reasons. Music labels/film studios/theaters/sports teams/sports leagues/similar are all as collective industries financial losers. Dallas Cowboys? yeah but look at the canadian football league or the defunct euro league. yeah New York knicks , who have a fortunate stadim, but what about the d league, the chinese league? no and no. Look at the yankees. ok, but what of double or triple a? terrible. Music labels are historically only profitable for the selloff at the end of their lives. So penalty is what is truly lacking? and I comprehend why ? not having financial penalty has a long tradition. the entire white wealthy of the confederacy were too big to fail , or had a huge bailout at the end of the war between the states. which like all bailouts after led to a consistency of behavior, in that case, killing black people. And even in bailing out the government can penalize. And that penalization can be very positive for the industry in cleaning up bad financial practices. i don't have any validatable information on china, but some say their ev industry is bottoming out, the problem is, even though they have the greatest deposits of rare earth minerals for the batteries accessible the EV cars use and china has an infrastructure to produce them or use them, the chinese automotive industry is built to export, not sell in china, and with usa+ europe not fully suitable for EV use completely, let alone the majority of humanity, absent any infrastructure for EV cars, the market for EV's is not a global one. The fuel of gas based cars serves a very good function in terms of international trade. Oil just needs to be sold. BUT EV's need electricity at volumes above remote gain. Electricity to handle a large volume of EV cars requires a system of infrastructure. this is the financial flaw that always existed. this is why the oil producers were not worried with the EV car movement the usa led because they knew, while USA+ China + Western Europe + japan will eventually change their energy infrastructures, most governments in the world don't have any energy infrastructure at all. so any vehicle that requires one is financially negative from the begining. So... its complex. This is why the hydrogen developers are still active in the labs. The negative of hydrogen is they haven't found a way to make its infrastructure cheap, you still need hydrogen lines and production+ Hydrogen is very dangerous to handle, very explosive. and it smanufacture also is part of the comprehension of hydrogen bombs so... the nuclear element is about it and the usa/russai/china/india/israel/select western european don' want the development of nuclear weapons to be common knowledge outside of the current nuclear powers. The positive, is hydrogen is like gas, in that you don't need an electric grid as much as hydrogen tanks and hydrogen based cars just put hydrogen in.

@Delano Before you can ask if one is free you must define freedom. So, I ask you to define freedom and then I can easily answer your question are Blacks, whether descended of enslaved or not, free. But, if anyone answer a question of freedom absent defining freedom first it will only give an uneven answer.

@Troy Too long didn't read ... the multilog, ok:) Well, I emailed the following to find out https://www.pageantplanet.com/ But based on unverified statistics your wrong. Pageants have not come and gone. And I can see how. With the advent of robotic labor, a pageant is a thing a human must do that is competitive. Like human sports, human contest of physical beauty must involve, humans. Come and gone, i don't think so. And with that role, the many pageants with little girls will remain. The industry of pageants makes a lot of money, it will not go away because certain populaces distaste for them or the legal ramifications of the abuse in various instances. @aka Contrarian thank you for your comment

@Troy I will change the adjective to inevitable. but even enough:)

@Troy cool, I hope the calendar functions and embedding do not go away. but no matter what happens I will figure it out and stay:)

@ProfD exactly,I don't have any problems with that. Some of our ancestors claimed the usa when it was being born with arguably no reason but hope. So I don't have a problem with your reasoning at all, but the issue is, too many black people who claim the usa, whether DOSer or not, seem shocked or require proof of something when a black DOSer doesn't. As if it never happened before. When it actually has been going on as long as the usa has been in existence. It goes back to our old topic of black people accepting our tribes in this country, which we never seem able to truly do. I know in a land filled with some indigenous people and a horde of willing immigrants or their descendants DOSers are unique in our story here. But... @Troy i must admit, the maps surprised me a little. The narrative has been the immigrant takeover, but that isn't the truth based on these maps. the truth is, mexicans have become the base of a multiphenotypical immigrant populace that combined has a majority or near majority in the usa today. And based on those same maps, chinese or indians are really the incoming threat to the white european base. But india + china have so many people. I remember when australia was upset, when so many chinese went to australia, but I get it. China uses its militaristic + financial clout to give chinese somewhere to go, cause china can't handle the worlds populace of chinese. Mexican+Indian+Chinese since 2010. 2030 it will be twenty years, a generation.