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Man y'all gotta define these terms I previously looked uo ADOS from one of Pioneer's earlier posts. I looked up FBA and the only defintion was "Fullfilled By Amazon." I went to Twitter and found out what it means. I also see there us a Foundational Black American conference coming up. I did also gather there was a petty beef going on... What does "YT" mean? The ads associated to those hashtags (#ADOS & #FBA) were interesting. I can easily see how one could get caught up. Another readon I don't consume info on social... No information is better than lies.

No wonder you were banned from Facebook and twitter 🙂

The media can not be impartial. If you consume one source of news you are being lied to. @Delano did you believe the media's reporting on the Central Park Five, before they were proven innocent? That is a completely false statement my friend. I deleted my personal profile along with my 5K "friends" back in 2018. It is curious however tgat you would make this false statement in this context. Why? Precisely. We used to call it gossip. When the media directs it against Black men it is especially harmful. No, because the fact of the matter is that he will not be removed. But keep in mind much of the "news'" we consume is social media driven gossip, speculation, opinion (often uninformed), Russian trolls, advertisement, and other forms of unvetted and unattributed information. As a result, there is no shortage of people who believe it is criminal that 45 is not removed and people who believe the proceedings are a corrupt witch hunt. These two diametrically opposed camps can reside on the same platform. The false statement, you said the "finest mind" on this site, shared from Facebook illustrates my point. How do you think lessor minds, like yours, would be impacted Del? Probably.

It is as simple as that.

@nels I wish social media was irrelevant, but Black folks use it disporpotinately. It is a variation of the slave mentality one of dependence versus independence. What got you banned from both platforms?

All great ideas spring forth from the collective mind of A.I. enhanced social media. That seems to be the herd mentality nowadays. Sometimes when I'm working on a problem I just let it go (stop trying to thing about it) and a solution comes to me. I think, "let me sleep on it," is very powerful. Where these ideas and solutions come from is anyone's guess but I would start with the brain.

Well Guest ZealotX you do not exaggerate regarding racist trolls. Which is a subset of all forms of spammers and hackers I had to shut down an entire domain where the forum previously resided http://thumperscorner.com because if trolls. The site never recovered in terms of participation after I was forced to migrated it here. It was very disappointing because the Trolls won that battle. Racist trolls come at me personally from time to time spamming my comments section on the site creating racists memes of me. Even sending me hate mail -- physical mail. It is the wild west here on the net. There is no law and no one will come to your aid. It is every man for themselves. This is one of many reasons why Blacks sites struggle including this one.

Thank @Maurice I don't have a big budget for advertising so it is folks like you who help spread the word.

Del can you make the distinction between a declaration and a question? My comments to you about the CP5 were all questions -- all of which you characteristically failed to answer. Why are you continuing to rehash your globally warming argument? You previuosly made you position on that clear and it does not bolster your rationale for blindly trusting mainstream media when it comes to judging Black men like Cosby or the CP5.

Lol! Absolutely! Pittsburgh has made fine contributions to our literature. August Wilson's Century cycle and John Edgar Wideman. @Maurice with more regular contributors the forum will pick up. Sometimes I get a bit discouraged as maintenance is a chore and there of course is the expense, but i think the benefits still out weigh the downsides.

The number of white deaths from nicotine is so high, globally, that your reasoning does not add up @Kareem This chart from https://tobaccoatlas.org/topic/deaths/ shows in dark red the countries where 1 in 4 deaths are due to smoking. You'll observe the countries were white live are most effected. Africans simply don't smoke as much as Europeans. They are killing themselves more effectively than they are Black people.

Aw get off your high horse and stop being silly; no one is defending rapists, but I'll not going to damn a Black man because of something the NY Post writes or because of an advertisement 45 takes out in the NY Times. You do know America has a history of murdering innocent Black men for raping white women. Why you are so quick to judge based upon what their media feeds you is evidence of the control the media exherts over you. The control is so complete you'd accuse me of being on drugs before entertaining the possibility. Again I'll ask you @Delano did you think the Central Park Five were the "Super Predators" the media and 45 made them out to be, before they were proven innocent?

Again, I know you don't believe the media has any influence on what you think. It is a hard thing to admit. How about your lumping Cosby and Kelly together? Was that 300 year's worth of data too? All you knew about Cosby and Kelly is what the media chose to share with you but you have no problem drawing daming conclusions. Did you also want the Central Park Five put away or executed too?

@Delano how can you ask for examples when this very conversation illutrates several. Your former position on climate change and your current one on 45's prospects for completing his term (astrological predictions aside) are just two. I don't need to know the newspapers you read. The fact that you read the is sufficient to know you are influenced by them. Previously you cited newspapers like the New York Post to support a position you held. The idea that you would cite that tabloid is troubling. But if you don't believe the media has no influence on you. Fine. We'd just have to agree to disagree. Why throw the completely unrelated R. Kelly case in with Cosby's as if they are the same? Again, the is what the media does -- The influence if main stream media on your reasoning is more profound than you are willing to consider...

People have been smoking or chewing tobacco for thousands of years. Are yiu trying to say that tobacco is a tool of white racist to kill Black people? If so, they sure are sacrificing a ton of white people to do it.

Well we agree on this 100% I see your point of view Del. I just think you underestimate the impact of the media on yourself. We are all effected, sometimes in ways we can perceive. You read that book on subliminal suggestion from the 70's. They have the devices, algorithms, and data to be FAR more effective in 2020. The only way not to be effected is to avoid it. If you think you are immune you are deluding yourself. Even this statement reflects media influence. Do you know Cosby or any of his accusers? Where you present during any of the events? No, of course you weren't. All you know is what the media has chosen to tell you. You will recall I doubted everything they said about Cosby -- I still do, because the media has a history of portraying us badly in the media when we don't do their bidding or get too powerful for their liking.

Exactly.

Yes, all people think differently. “What you can’t imagine is actually my modus operandi.” I like that one! I may have to steal it from you -- out it on a coffee mug of something 😉

@Delano are you taking my inquiries into the motivation as declarations of certainty? I explained why I think you are influenced by the media. You obviously consume a lot of new since you often chide me for not listening to the news. I think it is pretty obvious that anyone, unless they are obtuse or otherwise mentally defective, will be influenced by the media they consume. You can't subsist on a diet of junk food and claim it has no impact on your health. Often people are unaware of what influences drive their thoughts and behaviors. It is one reason I shun social media. The notion that the "Media was surprised by Trump popularity" is illogical, for they were completely responsible for his popularity.

No, I don't believe in the contrail conspiracies. But obviously white folks are not above polluting our environment with factory waste, faily to remove lead pipes, paint, asbestos from poor communities and we all know who lives , mostly, in these poor communities. The notion that a darker skinned person is "more" African is well with all due respect nonsensical. If you really think about it you can easily figure out why. Now if there is an agent that attacks one based upon their level of melanin then you might be onto something. But if such a chemical was available we would have seen it in use by now... If you were Sudanese you might feel differently @Pioneer1. Besides it was not Black people who were responsible for bringing Alex Wek international fame -- white folks did that. We simply don't define Black standards of beauty and when are given the opportunity we usually conform to the standards previously defined by our master. As Woodson would say our education makes this so.

Well that must be confusing; living in a constant of cognitive dissonance and all. I'm fine with simply being unsure. 😉 Seriously, your thinking must informed by something? Ideas don't emerge from a vacuum. You rely much more heavily on news that I do. I think history is a much better teacher. If 45 tweets something, it is almost certainly a lie. When the "news" races to rebroadcasts his tweets thm comments on the them all they are doing is propagating lies and giving the lies credence. I don't have the time...

Humm I did not remember discounting a potential 45 win. If you actually looked that up comment that I posted, but have not shared the link, please post it. OK you are supporting my understanding of the nature of your astrological prediction, but stopped short of entertaining the idea that you may be influenced by a biased Australian media conglomerate. You very introspective, so I figured I'd offer it as a possibility.

OK i understand. But surely your Astrological predictions are influenced by your interpretation. As you know, no two astrologers world interpret indentical charts the same way. Since your interpretation is a function of who you are, then your experiences and the information you've consumed must influence your interpretations. Right? Now if all the revelations of January result in no meaningful consequences -- or even a second term -- will January be a "watershed" moment?

Nope, because most of it is not "news." Besides I already know how the country works. I was exaggerating, but 15% of it has already burn up and that is indeed massive! Yes, it is well known that a lot of folks get their news from Facebook, but there is no indication that they are fact checking in higher numbers. Even if they did, this is increasingly difficult because news sources are not always fact checking they sources are the have an agenda like Rupert Murdoch, FIX News, etc.

My recollection was biased based upon the sheer volume and conviction of your disagreement. It is indeed interesting I'd forgot about your reversal. Still I do wonder if Murdoch and co. had any influence on your prior beliefs on climate chance and your current positionnon 45.