Troy

Man @Delano this would be much easier if you stopped going off on tangents and answered simple questions.

After pointing out that your conclusion from the article was baseless

On 12/21/2018 at 1:38 PM, Delano said:

Apparently facts are not based in Bedrock. 

The article never even used the word "fact." You failed to acknowledge this point and proceed to find some other point to take issue with -- even going as far as to discount the importance of Darwin's observations regarding the theory of evolution -- a first as far as I'm aware.  Then again you are the first to assert MLK and homosexual affairs, so anything is possible.

On 12/28/2018 at 2:24 AM, Delano said:

How did you think genetics has no place in evolution. Oh wait that's the bit Charles Darwin  missed. 

What?  So you dismiss the importance of Darwin's work because he was unaware of someone else's -- a contemporary no less?  That would be like dismissing Newton's work because he was unaware of the relationship between space time. Even Mendel's work started with observations indeed most scientific theories do.

Math is a tool brother Newton's laws was ultimately found be be incorrect because of observations.   The math supported his theory until it didn't. Now we have new math to explain the force of gravity that works under more conditions.  Ultimately even these formal will change to account for the quantum world...

Again, you seem to be more concerned with finding me wrong.

On 12/28/2018 at 2:24 AM, Delano said:

Congratulations Troy you are wrong on three counts. I don't think it is possible to be more wrong.

Indeed, the above statement is a testament to that. 

If it helps, you win.  Facts are not based in bedrock, all science is based upon math, and I could not be more wrong about everything

On 12/27/2018 at 11:50 PM, Troy said:

@Delano, ok so you are implying the immaculate conception never happened; what is true about it?

Del a response to this simple question does not require you following the entire thread.  

You were the one saying that you were "being supportive of @Chevdove."  I'm saying that you were actually not being supportive of her because you are not being forthright with her.  Indeed, I suggesting I'm being more supportive of her that by telling here how I feel and trying to understand her perspective.

On 12/28/2018 at 1:56 AM, Delano said:

Seriously, you have been arguing with Chevdove and you still can't answer this I have not read all of the posts in this thread. Since i didn't have an opinion. Yet you are still asking me for my opinion on a topic I haven't followed. 

Arguing/! Del Chevdove and I are having an open and honest exchange.  Unlike you I actually know what she believes -- why because she tells us.  You instead dodge questions with superfluous quotes.  You say that the Immaculate Conception is a "Myth that is both "true" but "never happened."  Rather than explain what is true about it -- in your opinion -- you condescend and bore us by copying from the dictionary.  

Man tell use what YOU believe that is where the beauty lies. 

@Delano if you spent more time justifying your responses rather than copying and pasting what I wrote, this conversation could advance.

Because according to you the theory of evolution was not based upon Darwin's observations but "math" from a 2nd cousin -- another unsupported claim which you can not substantiate. 

Again I'm fine with that. 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

.it's clearly being instigated and encouraged.

Of course the tatoo business is booming! It used to be done by drunken sailors and bikers, now suburban teenage whites girls are getting tattooed.

@Delano, ok so you are implying the immaculate conception never happened; what is true about it?

I hope you and your family had a great one!

So now you want ME to research some dude you brought up our of thin air?  Dude, if make a point YOU have to explain it.  If you don't want to, or can't, do it, that is fine, but don't expect me to.  

Look saying, "If you remove math and statistics you have very little science left in any field." is very different that saying, "What scientific theories don't involve mathematics?"  You can construe almost anything to involve math.  If that is you point, I'm not going to argue it.

So if you want to say evolution was based upon math rather than observation, fine.  I'm not going to debate, it we'll just agree to disagree

19 hours ago, Delano said:

I didn't comment about you accidentally deleting my post. Since you had deleted a clip because you didn't understand why i posted it. And you didn't comprehend my cryptic explanation. 

No. The clip was posted at least 4 times and on old and completely unrealeted posts.  It was clearly a mistake either a bug or a mistake on your part. I NEVER delete posts just because I dont like what written. 

20 hours ago, Delano said:

The Bible is mythology, so its not a simple yes or no answer. Myths never happened but contain truths. 

@Delano the answer is simple. Introducing mythology is subterfuge and clouds the issue. I was talking about women giving birth asexually and how Chevdove mixes science with religion.

After all your copy and pasting you STILL have not said if you believe that virgins can give birth to boys. 

You refuse to be clear. 

@Delano Is the "myth" of the virgin birth of Christ true in your view true?

Merry Christmas!

I hear you @Cynique.  In some circles the values are indeed carved in stone, however one could not divine this based upon behavior. 

Consider orthodox communities, evangelicals or even the NOI.  Their rules are crystal clear.  However don't try to judge this based code based upon any individual's behavior in that group. 

People are unique and will live by their own rules even risking great punishment. I'm basically saying what you're saying but moving the emphasis from the values and placing in solely on the individual.

OK @Delano please elucidate us on how Darwin's 1/2 cousin helped create Darwin's theory of evolution. 

@Cynique again the "battling monologues" is a consequence of dodging questions...

These stories span thousands of years and cultures.  The Jesus variation is a more recent one white folks produced.  Has anyone read the epic Gilgamesh?

Yes Horus and Heru predate Jesus -- Heru by thousands of years.

10 hours ago, Cynique said:

The biggest influence influence Christianity has on  black and white folks is an affinity for hypocrisy.  

Sad but often true.

On 12/20/2018 at 8:23 PM, Pioneer1 said:

I believe many of these social pathologies are as a direct result of AfroAmericans as a group TRYING to copy Caucasians and adopt Caucasians morality, ethics, and social/sexual habits instead of developing those of our own.

This is true too and is a consequence of living in a society founded on the genocide of the indigenous peoples and the enslavement of Africans and the moral hypocrisy pure evil required to pull it off.

It is not just Black people who are effected; all of us are effected.  We don't really have any "vales" as a nation.  Look at who we elected president. We lag all the developed nations in education. Our best and brightest minds work for Facebook and on wall street. We are increasingly becoming a morally vacuous country -- even white men are committing suicide in greater numbers than ever before.

Human sexuality is a complex combination genetics and environment it always has been.  If there is a greater incidence of homosexuality it probably is all the chemicals put in our environment and food that is the culprit, not some evil cabal white racists.

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

They are trying to influence our youth to look and act like monkeys to disgrace them.

Who are "they?"  Even if I knew who the "they" were, your idea seem preposterous to me. 

Don't get me wrong these young men present themselves in a very odd manner.  I suspect homie with the face tats will one day want to removed them.  Hopefully it will not be a problem for him.  In any case, they are a product of a commercial environment and are pushing the envelope.  

Not my cup of tea fortunately I'm not expose to this stuff (outside of the forum).

Greeks used the name Horus for Jesus which was originally Heru from Kemet (Egypt).  (If memory serves).

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

But because Del didn't make that clear in his response it led to MORE confusion among the two.

Del has a propensity for confusing lack of clarity with depth.

@Pioneer1 sure I won't dispute the notion that much what what Black people find worthy of attention or even praise worthy must be validated by white folks first.  I get it.

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

When was the last time you heard an educated AfroAmerican question anything scientific?

Theories like string theory, for example, are theories and there are Black physics that don't buy into it. You are unaware of these folks because you don't usually see them on TV or social media.  

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

For weeks now I've heard in mainstream publications that Russia is planning on sending a probe up to the moon to see if the United States actually landed there

I have not heard this where did you learn this? 

Have you considered that Russia is simply trying to undermine the US.  There are people who do not believe we landed on the Moon and Russia apparently are taking advantage of this.  I seriously doubt Russia would actually do what you say they are doing.  I suspect you got this from the same place Del got the info on MLK's homosexual affairs. 

Because a dialogue involves both parties answering questions the other asks or at least acknowledging that they will not answer the question before moving on.

I'm sure it is not lost on you that you rarely answer my questions @Delano.

Just goes to show little dogs are useless. Literally all bark and no bite....

In 10 days you may send my money to me vua paypal, square, venmo or number of ways just don't send me no check

Oh no he didn't! I KNOW @Delano is not pressing me to answer a question LOL!

People craft God in their image, but every educated person knows Christianity came from Africa. The bible white Christians use was crafted to suit their needs.

On 12/21/2018 at 3:28 PM, Delano said:

What scientific theories don't  involve mathematics? 

What testing have you heard of that isn't statistical that proves a theory. 

Are you just looking to be contrary to me? You drew a conclusion about facts from the article and when i pointed out that the article did not even mention facts you now raise another unrelated issue.

The theory of evolution did not involve math. It was based upon methodical observation. If you went to Brooklyn Tech you would know these things

Yes, @Chevdove there are theories that will never be "proven" to be fact, and will always remain theories.

Nope, that is not an accurate reflection of what i believe either.  Consider the fact that the average man is taller than the average woman. That does not mean there are no women taller than men.

The same goes for the different types of intelligences.