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@Pioneer1 according to Google incorrigible has been used 9 times in 15 years, roughly once every year and a half. Hardly worth mentioning. The word is oh so apropos. If you rolled in more educated circles I’d suspect you’d hear it not often 😉 as far as your response. You engaged and a great deal of linguistic gymnastics and dragged out your Multiverse argument which you drag out to explain away anything as it encompasses all possibilities . the idea that we can move between any of the universes we want does not make sense to me, as I doubt anyone would pick their current situation knowing there are an infinite number of better positions they could be in.

I have not had a chance to read this yet, but UII wanted you to know that I appreciate the coverage. Since local media is missing and under resourced the events are not covered -- despite being newsworthy. Your report bring to mind the "Reports from the Field" Kalamu ya Salaam used to publish on our events. Here are The Reports from the Field of the 5th National Black Writers Conference by Kalamu ya Salaam (from April 2000). If we don't preserve the story they never happened

Yeah, the black excellence forum can use a little more love. Even the sister who helped generate the idea rarely contributes.

@Pioneer1 There are an million examples; How do you think most Christians became Christian? Do you think the only people spreading the gospel are white people in Africa? There are black Christians going to white countries to proselytize. As far as the origins of Christianity. Where do you believe is started pioneer? Then tell me which continent that would be? I’ll wait…

@Pioneer1 my friend, you are the very definition of incorrigible. i’ll make it plain. If the omniscient being you believe in knows every move we will ever make. How would they know it unless it was predetermined?

you clearly don’t live in the south my brother. I can’t even wrap my brain around what you just wrote. you see the US’s population’s reaction to what’s going on in the Gaza Strip? do you think the US wants to mess around and get them involved with France’s, imperialism in Africa? I don’t think so?

I think he realized how much he did not know.

Interesting. I think these guys knew things about the world that was so far beyond their comprehension it was indistinguishable from magic.

Most of those teenagers end up just fine. Sure they have to struggle at but, that is perfectly understandable and expected.

there are many scholars that would disagree with you. Going back to your original question it was answered. If the roles were reversed, and everything else being equal, Europeans and Arab would’ve converted too it has to do with the way humans behave has nothing to do with the color of the skin.

No, they would not. So what do you conclude now?

Not at this point. I missed the one in the black excellence forum.

@richardmurray maybe. Perhaps as it will be less of a campaign speech and opinion polls and more about running the country.

Duh? You may as well add Haiti to the list. They should be. These countries are France’s piggy back and without their puppets in control they were will have to depend upon their own recourses. The French have been helpless since WWII, they have neither the military might or the will to come back into Africa. And who’s going to help them recolonize those African nations, the EU the Americans?

we are human, just like Billy Graham.

Does your omniscient being @Pioneer1(anyone) know exactly what we are going to do at every instance of our lives?

When you look up “white savior,” this is the photograph that is shown. Homeboy in the back is like, what this fool talkin’ about?

Now, this is a post that the belongs in the black excellence form. I was not aware of Mrs. Ladner either. yeah, that would be sexist by today’s standards. It is natural to notice another human’s attractiveness you just get yourself in trouble, expressing it when it has nothing to do with the subject. 🤐

People can’t get used to a lot of things, especially if they feel they have no control over it. Kevin Samuels deserves his own thread. One of my boys told me about him and said I definitely got to check him out. I watched a few of his videos. He was pretty harsh on the sisters. Admittedly some of them seem the need a little bit of tough love and candor. Thing I didn’t like, however is that he would dismiss women who weren’t accepting his advice to “die alone.” I wonder if he died alone?

it seems to me, you would completely understand that dogged attachment to an idea. 🤔 The notion of Asians, being docile and subservient is a stereotype. I encourage you to disavow yourself of it.

These things were explained @Pioneer1, perhaps not to your satisfaction. The reason you are having difficulty understanding is you keep shoehorning ideas that have no relevance like “evil” and “obeying.” if you touch something that is unexpectedly very hot, your hand will recoil. It’s not a decision that you made, it’s not good or evil, you weren’t obeying anyone, you just reacted. Now you could create a story in which you touched the hot thing, and made a decision, in a fraction of a millisecond, to remove your hand to prevent yourself from being hurt. But you and I both know that is a false narrative. I appreciate that was a trivial example, however it is should not be difficult to see how that situation could be extended to the universe. It’s not an idea you have to believe in, but it is one that you can ponder.

Sounds like the National Black Writers Conference is off to a great start. Thanks for sharing the coverage @richardmurray was it a full house?

…stepping up on the virtual soap box. I agree with most of what @aka Contrarian just wrote, though she gives people more credit than I think is warranted. I’ve been in conversations with many people who believe the earth is flat, believe Trump would be a good president, and that the earth is 6,000 year old. It is commonly accepted that the media had a great deal of influence in the rise of Trump. If one accepts this is true and thinks it is a bad thing, The question becomes. What do we do about it? Personally, I am not sure there is much we can do about the media and how they relate “information.” AI promises To make this cataclysmically worse. It will become impossible to discern truth from lies and fact from fiction. Those with the most money will control the narrative far more effectively than they do today. But if people are increasingly lied to, misled, and manipulated, we will still end up doing the bidding of the wealthy and powerful against our own self interest. As far as presidential elections, I think we should get rid of the electoral college and have ranked choice voting nationally. Once voting history should be available online so that we could confirm accuracy our vote. that would put much more power in the hands of the people and grifters like Trump would not be able to win the office when actually losing the popular vote by millions.

yes, and on some level this was always true. It’s just that the Internet fueled by social media has made the impact of sensationalism much worse.

Yep that was his name!