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Why Would A Religion From God Need To Evolve?
Pioneer1 replied to Pioneer1's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
ProfD Greed, jealousy, envy and hate lead to most conflicts. You know, as I get older I get wiser and have more insight to what causes certain reactions and effects. Based on my observations, I would have to say Greed and Jealousy causes more SUCCESS than conflict. Hate and MISUNDERSTANDINGS/CONFUSION causes most conflict. Infact, misunderstandings/confusion seems to cause more conflict than hate itself. Most people who truly hate eachother just stay the hell away from eachother...lol. Like Mr.Fuller says, no contact NO CONFLICT. Yep. Peep who seems to make all of the discoveries. Lol...the one smart enough to actually RECORD them when they came across them. Remember Mr.Fuller's frequent example "Brian"? While Black folks are out partying and snapping their fingers, or arguing over the Bible...some White man named Brian would be at the microscope studying a grain of sand he found in the ocean. They'd ask him, "Hey Brian..why are you studying that grain of sand???" Brian would answer them, "Because it's there. And if it's there, there must be a purpose for it!" A lot of our people treat their discoveries like their dances. They'll invent it and then get bored with it and move on to the next one without giving it so much as a second thought. Meanwhile some goofy ass White man with his hair parted straight down the middle and a handle-bar mustache will come right behind them and steal the idea and make a name for himself with it. True that. But, some folks would rather have their own wings. Well, with all of the people who fall and injure themselves simply walking or running....imagine the amount of injuries that would accumulate if you add FLYING to the equation? Just think about the amount of electrocutions you'd get each year from people flying into power lines? Not to mention what would happen if you were caught flying around during a RAIN STORM...lol. -
Colorado Supreme Court Ruling Primary Ballot
Pioneer1 replied to ProfD's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
ProfD Absolutely not. But, they're still our people. They need the most help and shouldn't be mistreated. The type of help many of THEM need involves being institutionalized (for their safety as well as the community's), heavily medicated, and lots of therapy. Treating them like they're perfectly normal and fine IS mistreating them. Fortunately, they cannot afford to live in my community You'd be SURPRISED who may end up moving next door to you one day...lol. You know Deonte and Demonte know how to work that joy-stick enough to make some of those rich widows and suburban housewives move them in and even give them an allowance and let them drive their nice cars. Gigilo'ing is in FULL EFFECT. Don't be surprised if you look up one day and see some dude in a doo-rag and wife-beater smoking a blunt while walking a poodle down the street and straight cussing it out.....lol -
Colorado Supreme Court Ruling Primary Ballot
Pioneer1 replied to ProfD's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
ProfD Murder rate is higher due to extenuating circumstances...poverty and drugs. ...all the more reasons why THAT era may have been better for our people than THIS one. Not only a lower homicide rate, but less poverty and drugs to fuel it. Many of those children were lazy and/or got hooked on drugs and lost their inheritance to gentrification. Like most good strategists, it seems that the White racists use a MULTI-TACTIC approach to disenfranchise the seemingly thriving and progressive AfroAmerican population of the early 1900s. They weren't going to put all of their eggs in ONE basket and think ONLY DRUGS or ONLY GENTRIFICATION or ONLY LYNCHING would do the trick. They were going throw ALL THEY COULD into the mix to make sure the job gets done. AfroAmericans fighting tooth and nail to hold on to 2nd class like flying Southwest airlines. At this point....it's more like SPIRIT Airlines...lol. AfroAmericans aren't on code among themselves. We need to build alliances among ourselves before we branch out. I think I mentioned this a year ago, but at this point...we may not be able to afford to WAIT on AfroAmericans as a community to get on code. We may have to count our losses and unite with who we DO have available, even if it's only 25% of the population...and move forward with our agenda AND make alliances with members of other races willing to help. AfroAmerican parents encouraged their children to get a good education so they could 1) find a good job and 2) not expect an inheritance and 3) be able take care of them (parents) in old age. Many of them were naive and gullible. Like Neely Fuller Jr. keeps trying to tell us, they didn't understand Racism and HOW IT WORKS. So many of them were CONFUSED. They really thought that getting a good education was to key to getting along with and getting a job under White folks. If they would have listened to The Honorable Booker T. Washington and The Honorable Marcus Garvey and focused on building THEIR OWN society in America instead of trying to integrate into White folks' society....they and their children and grand children would have been much better off. -
If you are a DOSer, why did your forebears leave the south?
Troy replied to richardmurray's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
Both of my parents permanently left he south in the late 50's. Neither ever had an interest in going back. My dad grew up impoverished and my mother was raised on a farm -- life styles they were both happy to leave behind. Combined they left 19 siblings, none of whom ever moved north of the Mason Dixon line. They most left rural southern location and closer to southen cities, Raliegh, Shreveport, Atlanta, Charlotte. Ultimately, the majority of my parents siblings fared much better in life. My parents never owned a home, car, took vacations, or had luxuries of any kind, but my sister and I always had a roof over our head, never went hungry, and we both graduated from college. It is not likely I will ever move north again. I would need some serious paper to even consider it. -
after reading the article, sharon stone said six months ago after receiving an award in nyc that she wants pay equity. she said that black women need to get ay equal to white women and women need to get aid to men. She said it is the law in the usa but isn't adhered to. So, Taraji Henson isn't lying but, I must say, the issue is the community of workers a well as the willingness of people to produce films. I will give an example. The reality is, every single film taraji p henson has made recently, like hidden figures, if she would had said no, for the wage offered, another black female thespian would had said yes. That is the blunt truth. That is how labor works in the usa, ever since the war between the states ended, employers always find laborers who will work for less. And that is allowed as each laborer is free to do the one thing that people underrate, as I have done more times than not, say no. If you feel someone isn't paying you correct or the fiscal terms of the deal are incorrect, simply say no. And, it is also the production of films that has to change. Taraji isn't a no name thespian but does she roduce films? At the end of the day, you have to risk and invest your own. robert redford, clint eastwood risked what they earned as actors and made great careers producing and directing. But they took gambles, like films downhill racer, the outlaw josey whales. I learned of this from Movies That Move We https://www.facebook.com/groups/162792258578547/permalink/738804597643974/?mibextid=oMANbw Taraji P. Henson Breaks Down In Tears As She Confirms She's Considered Quitting Acting The "Color Purple" star became visibly emotional in a recent interview while sharing the reason behind the potential move. Curtis M. Wong By Curtis M. Wong Dec 20, 2023, 07:09 PM EST As she returns to the big screen in one of this year’s most anticipated films, Taraji P. Henson is getting candid about the pay inequity she faces as a Black woman in Hollywood. The actor became visibly emotional in footage that went viral Wednesday following her recent conversation with Gayle King on SiriusXM, alongside fellow “Color Purple” star Danielle Brooks and the film’s director, Blitz Bazawule. When King asked about a report that claimed Henson was considering quitting acting altogether, the Academy Award nominee began tearing up. “I’m just tired of working so hard, being gracious at what I do, being paid a fraction of the cost,” Henson said. “I’m tired of hearing my sisters say the same thing over and over. You get tired.” The actor also pointed out that her profession required her to have a team of people supporting her behind the scenes. “I hear people go, ‘You work a lot.’ I have to. The math ain’t mathing,” she said. “Big bills come with what we do. We don’t do this alone. The fact that we’re up here, there’s a whole entire team behind us. They have to get paid.” Henson endeared herself to a generation of television views as Cookie Lyon on “Empire,” for which she received a Golden Globe. She made her film acting debut in 1998’s “Streetwise,” and nabbed an Oscar nomination for her portrayal of Queenie in “The Curious Case of Benjamin Button,” starring Brad Pitt. In 2016, she starred with Janelle Monáe and Octavia Spencer in the smash film “Hidden Figures,” which received three Oscar nominations. In “The Color Purple,” Henson is part of all-star cast that also includes Fantasia Barrino. Early reviews of the film, a musical adaptation of Alice Walker’s 1982 novel, have called it an “exhilarating, larger-than-life journey” and “a joy to watch.” Yet despite the many accolades she’s received, Henson told King that she’s treated like a novice when it comes to negotiating contracts for film and TV roles. “It seems every time I do something and I break another glass ceiling, when it’s time to renegotiate, I’m at the bottom again, like I never did what I just did,” she said. “And I’m just tired. It wears on you, you know?” Henson has touched on her experiences with pay disparity in a number of previous interviews. In 2019, she told Variety that she’d asked for “half a million” before signing on for “The Curious Case of Benjamin Button,” only to ultimately receive $150,000 for the role. And in an interview published earlier this month, she told The Hollywood Reporter that she’d been “fighting tooth and nail every project” for adequate pay. “Listen, I’ve been doing this for two decades and sometimes I get tired of fighting because I know what I do is bigger than me. I know that the legacy I leave will affect somebody coming up behind me,” she told the outlet, before going on to reference other Black female actors. “My prayer is that I don’t want these Black girls to have the same fights that me and Viola [Davis], Octavia [Spencer], we out here thugging it out.” Among those to express support for Henson this week was her “Think Like a Man” co-star Gabrielle Union. URL https://www.huffpost.com/entry/taraji-p-henson-black-actors-pay-inequality_n_65835ba5e4b03e698a11e8ae This is something S Stone said recently about the pay gap, I tried to find the local news but i failed Sharon Stone Says She Just Turned Down Big-Budget Movie Over Gender Pay Gap, Talks Saudi Arabia’s Emerging Film Market – Red Sea Studio By Diana Lodderhose November 30, 2023 1:00pm The year’s highest-grossing film, Barbie, may have been the first billion-dollar movie directed solely by a woman, but Sharon Stone isn’t confident the gender parity issue has improved vastly in the last few decades. Speaking exclusively at Deadline’s Red Sea Studio in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, the actress said the gender pay gap was still a huge issue in Hollywood today and she recently felt the brunt of it again last year when she was offered the lead role in a big-budget studio film. “Thirty years ago, when I did Basic Instinct, Michael Douglas made $14 million and I made $500,000,” she said. “Last year, there was a $100 million film being made by a studio and the actor, who was new, was going to be paid something like $8 million or $9 million – someone we don’t really know – and the studio offered me again $500,000 to be the female lead. And I thought, thirty years later this is still happening. So, I don’t think it has changed much. So, I turned it down and the studio head said, ‘Well, good luck to you Sharon.’ And I said, ‘Well, good luck to you.’ And two weeks later he was fired.” Stone is a returning guest at this week’s Red Sea Film Festival in Saudi Arabia this week, after having visited the festival last year for the first time and she said that the KSA “is so intriguing because it’s an emerging country.” “As our country [USA] is sort of divesting itself from being a first world country – now we’re considered a second world country on the global map – it’s really interesting to see as we, as women, lose our rights, here in Saudi women are gaining their rights and it’s so intriguing to watch how this is happening.” She continued, “When I did Basic Instinct, I wanted to direct a film and I got laughed out of the studio. And now you see that two out of the six women that had their films nominated in Cannes, were women that were funded out of Saudi Arabia. And so, people say, ‘Well how could you go to Saudi Arabia and look at all of those injustices in Saudi Arabia?’ And I said, ‘Well, I don’t know – I think it was pretty unjust that I couldn’t direct in America.” When pressed about stepping back into the acting world again, Stone admitted she would “love to do a television series” and hinted that “it’s quite possible that I will do one in the not-too-distant future.” URL https://deadline.com/video/sharon-stone-gender-pay-gap/
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@ProfD you said the ethiopians parents wanted him raised to be something else, no, they didn't. they didn't see the value in emphasizing the culture of their forebears. Which ... the funny thing is, the black dos community publicly spoke against black dialects of english, publicly spoke against black spirituality or cultures that black dosers had before the war between the states. Yes, medgar evers name is on buildings throughout the usa while the black community he fought for in mississippi/alabama/lousiana is still suffering, terribly. that is not true, he has been given many accolades by many groups. I have seen him, he has many strangers looking to him. My point is, which you miss for some reason is that the ethiopian wouldn't suffer a sundown town, he would leave. Medgar evers comprehended that a people who learn to immigrate between states, flee from one state in the union to another, move from one state in the union to another, is dysfunctional. A large part of the black populace, fled the south from fear but by doing so, created two minority situations. a minorty populace in the south under a white community used to abusing /killing/enslaving it + a minority populace outside the south under a white community who didn't want them as neighbors [which black people forget, most whites in the north tried their best to stop black people from moving out the south] and who criminalized them as much as possible to deter any betterment.
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I am fortunate, I know my parents parents story. I know the partial story of my parents/parents/parents. Charles Blow talks about black people moving back to the south, the article is linked below. But for me he dysfunctionally misses the motivation for most blacks. Yes, black people were and are financially poorer than whites in the usa, but black people fled the south because of whites. I will never forget the fortune of speaking to a family friend who said all the women in his black town was raped by white men, all, and yes, he was high yella. Black people in modernity love to talk about hanging or death or electrocution when it comes to the past. But, while the african american museum has an artwork for the number of hangings, is their enough space for an artwork representing the number of sexual violations by whites to blacks, all gender? IS their enough space for an artwork representing all the limbs whites took off black bodies? If you are a black DOSer and you want to live in the southern states, that is your business, but please refrain from suggesting black people in the past were simply in idyllic towns with the only harm of fiscal poverty about them. You don't need to lie about the past to make a future in spite of the past. And to that end, I said in this community black people in the usa need a party of governance. I emailed Blow my thoughts, his email is in the bottom link below. But, I don't comprehend how black people like him can call on black people to move back into the south and yet have no support for a black party of governance. After all the history in the usa, including obama, black people actually think if they had the majority populace in a state in the union that either donkeys or elephants should be the party that black elected representatives utilize? Seems silly to me. @ProfD plus @Pioneer1 discuss jonathan majors and how black people in government didn't help him.but again, i know of members of the donkeys or elephants in nyc who are non black while also people of color, they don't help their own. AOC isn't lifting the puerto rican community in the bronx. Asian elected officials didn't protect asian business from federal attacks during the covid. The one thing that troubles me is how black people actually think non blacks help their own , in nyc, they do not. And that explains why all the populaces seem , as media states, unconcerned. blacks + non blacks don't engage with the government cause all, ALL, the elected officials, from all the races do nothing. Black people's only flaw is many of us seem to think that non blacks are performing miracles for their communities, when they are not. article https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2549&type=status
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Actor Jonathan Majors was found guilty of a misdemeanor and a violation that could result in up to one year prison sentence: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/jonathan-majors-trial-verdict-1235759607/ Majors will lose more in job opportunities as a result of this situation. He's already been dropped by his management company. Marvel comics is removing him from their movies. A Black man should know there is a huge target on his back. Any form of success increases the bullseye range. For a Black man, any and every transgression of law especially of a violent nature will be prosecuted to the fullest extent. in Jonathan Majors situation, the victim didn't press charges. The state of NY did it. The guilty verdict won't cost Jonathan Majors a significant amount of his freedom. But, among the dominant society, he will lose far more in the court of public opinion and income. Another Black man who was a rising star brought back down to Earth. White folks totally enjoy the take down. Majors isn't the first and won't be the last the Black man to bring this on himself. President of Ultimate Fighting Championship Dana White was caught on video slapping his wife around. Nothing happened to him. The Black man cannot get away with high crimes or misdemeanors in the same manner as white men. The question is when will he ever learn.
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Response and Articles 12/19/2023
At the end of the war between the states: louisiana, south carolina, mississippi had majority black populaces, but the governments of said states had no black officials. One of the problems with some Black people in the usa is they speak very neutrally when it comes to humanity. Being verbose is a long thing, can be fatiguging, but is usually more descriptive and being more descriptive is needed when you speak of the past in humanity anywhere. The palestinean people had the majority in palestine when the zionist came but the government was completely run by members of the british empire. so...
I think a valid question exist. Beyond the law, did the 14th or 15th amendment's make the Black Enslaved or former enslaved citizens? What makes a citizen? is it the law? or is it, the communal context? I argue the history of the native american in the usa+ the black enslaved or descended of enslaved in the usa, refutes the idea that citizenry comes from the law.
The authors states tremendous progress for the black populace in what is commonly callted reconstruction in the usa, but i argue that is erroneous. First, most black people in the usa, 90% were still financially dead, no savings, no money, no land, n opportunity to gain financially. Tremendous progress I thought represented a lifting of a majority in a populace, not a financial stagnation from a majority that never had financial betterment.
The biggest problem with Black people in the usa, is the lie we tell ourselves about the commonly called Great Migration, which I call the Black fleeing. Black people flew from the south cause black people were being killed/murdered/incarcerated absent criminal activity/assaulted through the entirey of reconstruction, ask Ida B Wells and flew to the northern cities to be treated better. Most black people did not think they were going to financial betterment outside the south. I wonder where that myth comes from. Yes, some black people sought financial betterment but most wanted away from whitey.The firs thing he said that is truth, Black people always flew back to the south. But the reason was always simple. Thew white governments of the exosouth [north or west] was no better than the white governments of the south. Remember, Tulsa, which wasn't majority black like NYC, Chicago, Los ANgeles, had a government that aided in the bombing and looting of the black community in tulsa by the white community. To be blunt, NYC, Chicago, Los ANgeles were not haven cities for blacks, that is a myth. But the fact that they were not is why black people flew back.
Now what is missing. Many years ago, during Obama's first campaign I suggested Black people in the usa needed a black party of governance in the usa to focus on places where the populace of black people is largest. He speaks of Black Power in government locally in the southern states but doesn't suggest a black party of governance in said states? why? I always find it strategically silly that any community is unwilling to support organizations strictly to their benefit when they have numerical advantage.
Why do the black towns and counties of the south have representatives of andrew jackson or abraham lincoln when both have proven to be useless in being effective to making or administering legal policy to Black benefit.I emailed him my thoughts, you can do the same
chblow@nytimes.comSome post where I spoke on this
https://aalbc.com/tc/blogs/entry/194-richard-murray-creative-table/page/5/?tab=comments#comment-496
https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=1945&type=status
This photo is part of the problem. Most black people didn't own a car. This black family is financially the black one percent. This black family is looking for financial betterment but most black people owned nothing. I know for certain. Most Black people fled the south , walking, taking the train, fleeing white violence. But the narrative whites like to hear, ala magical negro is it was a simple financial move.
Charles M. Blow on reversing the Great Migration
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BY CHARLES M. BLOWDECEMBER 17, 2023 / 10:25 AM EST / CBS NEWS
Our commentary is from New York Times columnist Charles M. Blow, whose new HBO documentary "South to Black Power" is now streaming on Max:At the end of the Civil War, three Southern states (Louisiana, South Carolina and Mississippi) were majority Black, and others were very close to being so. And during Reconstruction, the 14th and 15th Amendments to the Constitution made Black people citizens and gave Black men the right to vote.
This led to years of tremendous progress for Black people, in part because of the political power they could now access and wield on the state level.
But when Reconstruction was allowed to fail and Jim Crow was allowed to rise, that power was stymied. So began more decades of brutal oppression.In the early 1910s, Black people began to flee the South for more economic opportunity and the possibility of more social and political inclusion in cities to the North and West. This became known as the Great Migration, and lasted until 1970.
But nearly as soon as that Great Migration ended, a reverse migration of Black people back to the South began, and that reverse migration – while nowhere near as robust of the original – is still happening today.
In 2001 I published a book called "The Devil You Know," encouraging even more Black people to join this reverse migration and reclaim the state power that Black people had during Reconstruction. I joined that reverse migration myself, moving from Brooklyn to Atlanta.
Last year, I set out to make a documentary which road-tested the idea, traveling the country, both North and South, and having people wrestle with this idea of Black power.
Here are three things I learned from that experience.
First, Black people are tired of marching and appealing for the existing power structure to treat them fairly.
Second, young Black voters respond to a power message more than to a message of fear and guilt.
And third, many of the people I talked to had never truly allowed themselves to consider that there was another path to power that didn't run though other people's remorse, pity, or sense of righteousness.
I don't know if Black people will heed my call and reestablish their majorities, or near-majorities, in Southern states. But sparking the conversation about the revolutionary possibility of doing so could change the entire conversation about power in this country, in the same way that it has changed me.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/charles-m-blow-on-reversing-the-great-migration-south-to-black-power/Different Tribes of Black people slowly becoming one takes too long to retain gains or start new gains
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Black Descendent of enslaved leaders guided the majority populace of said people to do what Maher says the palestinean should do. Based on the history of said people my advice is for the palestinean to keep fighting for the river to the sea. Yes, it may lead to a termination of palestineans. But, look at the native american in the usa. Look at the black descended of enslaved in the usa.
Two peoples who in overwhelming majority, not all, chose the path Maher suggest the palestinean choose. What did it lead to?
Whites in the USA got what they wanted, they got to win a blood feud absent having to kill the rivals in the feud, and then use that as a symbol of usa greatness. The black descended of enslaved plus native american became idolters, mostly ranked by people who are completely infatuated to the culture of those who enslaved them, completely impotent populaces concerning what can only come from collective force, beggers or crawlers in the system designed by rivals in a blood feud.
Maher is correct, as someone in this community said to me the same as other black people said many times in earshot in my offline life, the past can not be changed. But, how you plan for the future does not have to suggest the past didn't happen. And that is what Maher truly wants, what the native american of the usa did, what the black descended of the usa did, for the palestinean people to eat the crow of accepting the system of their opposer and embrace said system. Then they can have a palestinean president of israel. They can have dancing jolly musicals about the fiscally poor palestineans abused by the tyrranical israelis hurting each other for relief. They can mate with israelis and have a bunch of loving palestinean-israeli mulattoes. Yeah, I know what Maher is suggesting to the palestinean. If the palestinean is wise,better for the community to die than to become the native american of the usa.Maher on palestineans
Maher on netanyahu
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The problem with netanyahu is like so many , he is unwilling to embrace the truth of his country,this is what hitler did that many leaders are unwilling to do. Embrace the power and violence of their government as power+ violence. The Statian empire teaches all governments that power must always be wielded as benevolence, this comes from the british imperial tradition that create the usa. But I oppose that, if you are a bully be a bully. You want to push the palestineans out, then simply do it. Trying to suggest you are legal or pure or a good person or some other thing to make a false narrative in a history book or to assuade your descendents of how they got their wealth is to me a true sin. Maher says Israel is powerful , well it is time for israel to embrace that position. And to embrace that the zionist chose this location. If the zionist were wise they would had chosen somewhere in europe but they were not, they assumed they could chose a muslim place and convert it through influence of their big brother who was started the same way, the usa. But they underestimated that not all peoples are the native american + black descended of enslaved who are weak peoples. So the zionist made the bed, the israeli has to live in it, israel will always be the enemy of its neighbors, that is the zionist legacy, netanyahu needs to embrace it and kick the palestinean out and live surrounded by enemies.
What DAvid Alan Grier said is correct, and in the situation of candy cane lane holds truth but the reason it isn't industry wide must be discussed. The problem with the narrative is, who owns is irrelevant . Grier says all need to see themselves, and he isn't wrong but black people don't see themselves in media in the usa cause black people don't own the media. Many black people in the usa seem to think not owning sports team, not owning film studios, not owning music labels, not owning car companies, not owning gun manufacturers, not owning cement makers, not owning real estate , not owning mass produce producers[corporate farms], is not a factor. Black people in the usa don't own any industry. That is why Black people are not present as we will like in any industry in the usa. IT is very simple. But the reason black people don't own is because of our history under this government , historically white, that placed us in a negative financial state where whites disallowed us from owning. Yes, starting in the 1980s, it can be said that the black populace in the usa finally was free from the yoke of the whites to grow as individuals BUT it matters when whites in the usa have opportunities to take native american land, when whites have the opportunity to rip natural resources from the earth, when whites have the opportunity to have a gilded age making fortunes for bloodlines off of acts today deemed illegal. MErit isn't unimportant. I am not knocking down merit. But merit isn't more important than opportunity but opportunity in the usa comes from ownership not merit. And ownership in the USA 99% of the time comes from advantage through an ancestor using arms, guns, or inheriting wealth from an ancestor who used arms, guns.
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This situation reflects my point, ownership is more important than merit or equality. eddie mruphy is an owner/a producer and makes the choices, if eddie murphy didn't put grier or someone black as santa that is his choice. My point is ownership is superior to merit. Black culture/storytelling has always been present to support black people feeling apart of anything. And I know cause growing up as a kid I never felt deprived of black presence in media or in any season cause of my parents.David Alan Grier on Why His Surprise Cameo as Black Santa in ‘Candy Cane Lane’ Reminded Him of ‘Black Panther’
The film reunited him with his 'Boomerang' collaborators Eddie Murphy and director Reginald Hudlin.
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DECEMBER 9, 2023 11:15AMAs the Candy Cane Lane premiere red carpet heated up Nov. 28, two publicist elves worked their way down the press line to remind journalists not to spoil the big reveal from the Reginald Hudlin-directed holiday adventure.
The Prime Video release, penned by Kelly Younger, stars Eddie Murphy as a recently unemployed man on a mission to win his neighborhood’s annual Christmas home decoration contest. The hush-hush surprise happens late in the film when David Alan Grier crash-lands in an ultra-slick sleigh as (the lifted embargo permits us to announce) Black Santa Claus.
“Reggie called and told me what his idea was and I was overjoyed, man. He let me flow and egged me and Eddie on,” explained Grier of reteaming with Hudlin and Murphy with whom he teamed for the 1992 romantic comedy Boomerang. “That was over 30 years ago and all we talked about were cars, clubs, big houses, like ‘Where y’all going tonight.’ This was different because Eddie is so chill. He has kids, grandkids. He seemed really, really happy.”
As far as the significance of playing an iconic character as a Black man, Grier said the opportunity reminded him of Black Panther. “When you see yourself represented in movies or stories, it’s an affirmation that you exist, that you belong, and that you’re legitimate. That’s what people forget about to see ourselves, not just us, everybody. There’s room for all of us at the table. This is the first Christmas movie I ever did so it’s got to last a long time.”
Who knows, there may also be a sequel. Prime Video announced last week that following its debut, Candy Cane Lane quickly became the No. 1 movie worldwide on Prime Video, the most-watched am*zon MGM Studios-produced movie debut ever in the U.S. and among the top 10 worldwide film debuts ever on the service.
“The sensational debut of Eddie Murphy’s first-ever Christmas movie, Candy Cane Lane, is a true demonstration of how joyful, family-oriented stories can touch the hearts of viewers around the world,” offered Courtenay Valenti, head of film, streaming, and theatrical at am*zon MGM Studios.
Grier is also counting his blessings this holiday season. “I’m going to tell you right now, I’m 67 years old. I did not think that my career would be here at my age. I have more work than I can even say yes to. My career is booming and I feel like I finally figured out what I’m doing, so I’m only getting better and better. We’ll see what happens.”
the american society of magical negroes trailer
For centuries, there has been a society hidden in plain sight, working in secret to protect Black people from harm. It’s called THE AMERICAN SOCIETY OF MAGICAL NEGROES.
A new satire from writer/director Kobii Libi and an official selection of Sundance 2024. Only in theaters March 22.guiliani as mayor of new york made policy intentionally harming the black populace in nyc, that being the selling of nyc properties that black people lived in, properties nyc owned because the real estate industry failed which many forget... is his actions toward two black female poll workers a shock to black new york city dwellers? The answer is no.
kamala harris broke the record on tiebreak votes but is the quality of her tiebreaks showing she is thoughtful or functional?
https://www.blackenterprise.com/kamala-harris-200-year-record-tiebreakers-cast/Question, should black people in the south look to reboot the majority of historical black colleges that went under?
For example the Conroe Normal and Industrial College faculty (c. 1903)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conroe_Normal_and_Industrial_College
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Mandela on a Black countries government
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Please read MEdical Apartheid by Harriet Washington
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I tune in to debates mainly 1) to know what both sides of the coin are yakking about and 2) it can be as entertaining as watching an episode of Martin. I watch and read news for the same reason. Sometimes it's more entertaining than consuming empty mental calories from TV shows and movies. Most of the current cast of clowns are definitely jockeying for position in carrying favor with the former POTUS.
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This is a damn shame this bias charge was made
Pioneer1 replied to Stefan's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
frankster Book learning not Wisdom. If they are able to APPLY what they've learned in those books to rule over people, then they also have WISDOM to a certain degree. Yes they have Power.... by creating an evil corrupt system of Exploitations with Power garner from Corruption and Collusions...more suffering - What goes around comes around. Do you have proof or strong evidence of this? Or is it more WISHFUL THINKING from those who think they don't have the ability to defend themselves from the corruption and evil afflicting them? If you cannot survive on your own... then you are dependent - Vassal State. You called them a failed state. Clearly they are not. We can move on if you like...lol. We have Progress...Within the System of White Supremacy because we have played by their rules and by adhering to their goals. Ok. So in other words, progress IS achievable. Now...... Black African and African American....is Antithetical to White Supremacy - Today the US is One of the Major Practitioner of Racism on the Global stage. Tell me something I don't know. We should focus on making MORE progress. Not lamenting over the obvious. But Right and Wrong as in Good and Evil goes beyond Mores and Social Values...It is of the Fabric of Consciousness Not sure if that's true or false. Animals are conciouss.....do all of them know "good" from "evil"??? We have been here before. All living things have a Conscience.....that small still voice - Intuition. Have you communicated with "all living things" to know this as a fact? I am not religious.. Yes I learn from Scripture Do you believe Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior? and/or Do you believe the Bible is the word of God? She came to you for help? Yes...and found it. The exchange of goods and or services for sex is prostitution Correction: Exchanging MONEY for sex is prostitution. Not goods or services. Whether with you or anyone else it is still prostitution....Considered abusive - to all involved. Considered abusive BY YOU because of your Westernized view of sex. Obviously, you've been taught to believe sex is negative outside of certain confines. We can agree she needed help? No. She WANTED help. but she wanted your help....You accepted - a bargain was made. Correct Now we're getting somewhere....lol. Plenty have don't so....oldest among professions - it tends to have undesirable consequences. So does being a virgin, being celibate, and NOT engaging in sex when God created us to. Doesn't your Bible say that man wasn't made to be alone? No not at all....A fair price is all that is required "Fair" is what BOTH PARTIES AGREE upon. You saw you had an Advantage and took it. Correct. What is the opportunity some in need and wanting your help. She wanted it, she didn't need it. The opportunity is in and of itself...my opportunity to have sex with a woman I found attractive. Maybe so Maybe not....I do not know what that means to you. please elucidate? You quote Biblical scriptures, so obviously you believe their is truth and validation in them to a certain extent. That's the point of view you're coming from. The Bible for the most part teaches against sex outside of marriage which it calls "fornication". If you want to believe that...as I once did...fine. Just don't force it on others. If by my morals you mean European Western Morality ...then you are Wrong - Admittedly they are overlaps in both African and European Morality. So outside of Biblical scripture...which was translated BY Europeans....where else do you get your moral and ethical code/beliefs from? What are you implying here....that Africans do not have Morals? Absolutely not. The word "morality" ITSELF came from the Moors who were African. Biblical Style Courting is loosely based in African Cultures.....African Americans have forgotten. True....because of colonialism many Western European sexual habits have been FORCED upon Africans. Usually through religious indoctrination. In order to find out if it's TRULY "African" or not, we have to study the cultures that have been relatively untouched by the Europeans, Arabs, and other outsiders. It's not so much that African Americans have FORGOTTEN them but our proximity to Caucasians have taught us....among other things...how to think more liberally and "freely" from religion and religious indoctrination. So unlike many other people around the world who believe UNQUESTIONABLY in religious scripture, we have learned to question it and in some cases abandon it. Clear cut case of Abusive.. Then why pretend it was anything else?? Because it was not abuse. Again, you have an anti-sexual point of view based on Western/Biblical moral codes. That colors how you look at sex and sexual activity, especially outside of the confines of marriage. -
Of the remaining GOP candidates challenging the former POTUS for the nomination, only one of them is willing to call him out on his record and legal issues. Former Gov. Chris Christie who at one time was a loyal ally to the former POTUS is the only candidate who seems unafraid to oppose him. Watching the debate is funnier than some TV shows and movies. These clown characters are wasting a whole lot of money In a losing effort. The former POTUS is leaving the clowns in the dust. I don't think he would even ask any those candidates to be his VP running mate or cabinet level positions.
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The same year in which a white female director earned huge acclaim for her film barbie, Nia Dacosta a black female director has helmed The Marvels, a film that has become in media , not reality, the tombstone of superhero films. thoughts? I want to say one thing...the CEO of disney made an excellent financial note, not every film from marvel is going to break a billion, it shouldn't really, that is the history of movie making. On the other hand, while I agree with a reviewer [who used a different tone than the following] that films involving non white male christians in the superhero film world or multiracial casts has put off white male christian audiences, in the superhero realm which in disney owned marvel studios era was only two films: The eternals + The marvels, I argue is part of a larger problem. The problem isn't multiracial movies itself. Black panther 1 and 2 did great with a mostly non white cast. Marvel's two attempts at making films that truly had a multiphenotypical range of characters have both flopped. So I argue the issue isn't a mostly white or mostly black film from marvel studios, but an interracial film is currently problematic. Now I do wonder about the xmen , how that will work.
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Aaaight, aaaaight, what about THIS one.....lol.
Pioneer1 replied to Pioneer1's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
Troy We (Black people) are the most creative race on the planet. We invented the vast majority of the dance moves not just in the U.S. but around the planet....as well as the Martial Arts. Years ago when I was a teenager a brother told me we invented Martial Arts and "gave" it to the Asians. I laughed at him thinking he didn't know what he was he was talking about and was doing a little too much with the Black history. Now after not just years of experience and personal research but just good old fashioned OBSERVATION......I definitely believe this with little doubt in my mind. Why? For the same reason I believe the moves and flips that gymnasts do came from Black people too. Because our people are so creative that they INVENT things so much they often get tired of a particular thing and move on.....only for others to STEAL it and appropriate it as "their" culture. Look at the dances, styles of dressing, and DJ'ing at parties that Whites and many Asians engage in today. All of it came from urban AfroAmericans....who were doing it in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and have moved on with NEW styles. But White folks will pick up on it and make it a STAPLE in a particular arena. -
White History It's Even Worse Than I Thought
richardmurray replied to aMhayes's topic in Black Literature
Will you display your definition of historical fiction @aMhayes ? I ask because one thing I have learned looking at what I call, the black film industry in the usa, is mosttimes, what black people do in an industry or artistic sector doesn't match what white people do but doesn't make it invalidated. To the example I suggest. Black people made so many home movies in the usa. And black churches were the traditional viewing place for black theater- shuffle along/black films- like oscar micheaux in most black communities, not theaters. so the black film industry with black churches as its traditional gathering place of viewing is structurally different than the white film industry. Same to black stage, where the black church is the primary viewing spot historically, so... To that end, are black people in the usa, writing historical fiction like whites? no. First black people do have an oral base, as zora neale hurston's works prove, because of our enslavement, black history/culture was emitted through oral means mostly till the end of reconstruction where the black community in the usa, went on a literary route, albeit with one flaw, being a discarding of our oral heritage and how to bridge it in the world of allowed literacy. So, I know in this very group @Milton does historical fiction, in the zone of biographical fiction So I think you are far from alone Amhayes, but the way in which many black artist compose historical fiction i think differs from ala morte d'arthur sort of arrangement. -
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ProfD replied to ProfD's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
It makes no sense beyond feeding people's desire to get a closer look at the action and carnage. Adults try to blame the disregard for human life on video games and movies. Nope. All forms of media are guilty of putting out negative images. -
This is a damn shame this bias charge was made
Pioneer1 replied to Stefan's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
ProfD No reason for us to duplicate the worst of men. Perhaps lacking power, being broke, and disrespected is AMONG the "worst" for a man. Power and wealth should be used to lift all boats. Everyone should be able to live comfortably. I'm not focused on helping "everyone" or ensuring that "everyone" lives comfortably. I WILL help those in need to the various extent that my resources allow. Especially those suffering medical emergencies; however my primary focus is on AfroAmericans and ensuring our prosperity and success. frankster Wisdom has nothing to do with Ethnicity True...but that doesn't answer my question. Again, if you suggest that White people have book-knowledge but are lacking wisdom...I won't argue this. Perhaps others do....I'm not sure one way or the other, which is why I simply ask that you show me the race that DOES have more wisdom than them. Then you know that it Failed...as it accentuate differences and not commonalities. It was SET UP to fail. The United States didn't set up Liberia the same way they and Britain set up Israel. You don't dump a bunch of newly freed Black folks off in the middle of the woods and sail away leaving them to fend for themselves.. What did they EXPECT to happen? We will be seen as Foreigners Akata, Obruni or Oyinbo...Cotton picker or stupid and evil person. You're ALREADY seen as that anyway...that's one of my points. If we go over there and BUILD something and HELP people with our wealth and technology (comparatively speaking) perhaps they'd look at us differently. But at this point, many if not most of them don't see AfroAmericans in a very positive light ANY way. We certainly do not have more Resources than African, We do not have more Wealth than Africans And it can be argued we do not have more skills than the Africans. As AfroAmericans we COLLECTIVELY have more ACCESS to wealth, technology, and education than most Africans. We just don't use it properly. A Black man (Charles Brown) is currently the Joint Chief of Staff leading the United States military. Before him another Black man named Colin Powell was in that position. We HAVE access and opportunities....but we haven't used them wisely. What we have is Proximity to Power and The Opportunity to influence that power....Access to Modern Technology. Facts. So why not USE them? Remember the old adage, USE IT OR LOSE IT. Many Latinos use what little THEY have to go back down to Latin America and build. No....I expect them to built Industries in Africa. Well they have to be TAUGHT how to do this. You don't go from being a cashier at Home Depot to building a steel plant in the middle of Ghana. You have to be TAUGHT these skills. Which is why we should petition the U.S. government for skills and training. That is Aristocracy/Nobility, ancestors left a heritage for them. However the hell they got it....they got it. What's wrong with it? What's wrong with Aristocracy and being upper class? What's wrong with being wealthy and elite? I'm not going to let White "liberal" theology trick me out of going against common sense. Wealth is good. True.....but why would you want to be a Corrupt Elite.... I said ELITE...I said nothing about being "corrupt". Let us try to keep it a good thing. Absolutely. Part of our success is in our RIGHTEOUSNESS. However as a people we need to be on the SAME PAGE as to what constitutes "righteousness". Lol, which leads us to this NEXT issue..... We Knew that all along....but what you are proposing is to fleece the poor and needy Is bringing factories, buildings, and decent paying jobs to them "fleecing" them? Because that would be ONE OF my intentions in buying land and establishing industry in Africa. Helping myself and other AfroAmericans primarily however helping them also. You just Said how you got "cookies" by taken advantage of people in need.....you had the power and abused them with it. Corrections: 1. I didn't take advantage of the PERSON, I took advantage of the OPPORTUNITY. It was a fair exchange as they had the choice. If they didn't want to have sex with me, they could have gone to someone else or just turned down my offer. No compulsion or extortion. 2. I didn't AB-USE my power I USED by power to get what I wanted by helping THEM get what THEY wanted. As long as sex is CONSENTUAL and MUTUALLY AGREED I have absolutely no problem with it. We don't want to build a society based on HYPOCRISY. Not calling YOU that...but speaking in general. We know most men want sex and will use different ways to get it. You're not going to stop this. It's been going on for thousands if not millions of years. It's not likely to change. As long as it's VOLUNTARY and between ADULTS, we should accept that it's their own personal business and move on to more important matters. But I understand you're PROBABLY coming from a Biblical/Christian perspective that believes that sex is more than a physical need and desire. Power comes in many forms...And we all have varying degrees of power regardless of Race class or status Facts! First you must recognize The Power you already have and what you are doing with it. More facts on top of facts. You are setting yourself up as the "Other" very rarely good come of such behaviour. Good luck TRYING to blend in as being the "same" then. Some people will tell you that as an AfroAmerican, most Africans wouldn't see you as one of their "own" no matter how hard you tried to fit in or blend in. So you might as well embrace being the "other" Black man, lol. We are Westerners and we should continue with our cultural ways whilst being Aware Accepting and Hospitable as Guests should be. I wouldn't accept "guest" status. If I buy land there, I would demand CITIZENSHIP status....for me and my offspring born there. Not FORCED mind you. But "demand" as in....that would be part of the deal in exchange for the money and other benefits I would bring. They aren't going to just take the AfroAmericans money, use them up, and then kick him out when they get ready. Or when some other dictator takes over rip up the contract. Hell no. I could not agree with you more..... Why US Military.....Why not Create Our Own or hire Private Black African Paramilitary Protection Service Company. I'll give you 2 good reasons: 1. The U.S. military is one of if not THE best military among nations in the world. What country would have a better military to help us and learn from? 2. We're UNITED STATES CITIZENS. They have someone of an obligation to help and protect us anyway. I love discussions like this because we can get things out in the open and eliminate misunderstandings. This is one of the many great things I've learned from the teachings of Neely Fuller Jr. There should be NO CONFUSION or MISUNDERSTANDINGS between Black people....especially when we set out to work together on a project or want to go into a business or buy land together. We should all know what the other believes and what their values are. Before we SET FOOT on our land overthere, we should have a CRYSTAL CLEAR understanding of eachothers wants, expectations, intentions, morals, and ethical values. -
MY THOUGHTS 0:10 Jill scott's character in this film is well known, I have only seen two tyler perry films. One is with a black woman who is with a wife beater, and the other is with a black woman who is using a black man's marriage as a cover for her mistresshood to a white man . But it seems he likes to have an abused black woman by a black man. reminds me of "for colored girls" 3:30 I don't think Zenobia shared why the relationship between jill scott's character and said character's husband bother's her so much. It is clearly negative but she wanted to say more i think 4:15 Nike, you found the relationship with the michael j white character side wife funny? 10:00 Zenobia, I don't exist in the circles where tyler perry films ar ebeing talked about alot, thanks for mentioning. 12:05 why have the tyler perry films become more debated now in the espace circles, in either of your opinions? 13:11 why did you show his image, the character that jill scott's character romances with? is he a hero or something?:) 14:49 do both movies explain why the guy who married jill scott 's character marry her in the first place? I don't comprehend based on what you guys said, why he married her, did she have the body of tyra banks or sade or kerry washington when they married? 21:17 red tomato:) rotten tomato:) Nike your hilarious, Zenobia, was the second film spinned off unrealistic? 23:36 Is the formulaic way of Perry why his alex cross failed so much? 28:10 all artist display their rearing or the reaction to their rearing in their work. it is inevitable. 30:32 Tyler Perry like SPike LEe like Robert Townsend, like the Wayans, like others before , all comprehend the industry and all have influenced it, But each have their own perspective based on their tribe in the village so to speak. the problem isn't that the black experience in the usa is complex, all black people or white people know this. but the black experience in media rarely reflects how complex it is. So black people who don't share another's experience call their ersion a falsehood or leser view, when it is merely a view from a different part of the black community. 33:35 yes in europe theater was a place for only male thespians, in japanese kubuki as well, 35:57 tyler perry comprehended that many of the older black thespians have followings in the black community or the white community of a certain age and supporting them provides a certain audience, especially of financially affluent blacks 37:37 great job covering all three films. Enjoy the Winter season! THE NEW COLOR PURPLE Usually when people talk about films they go into a what do they think . I will ask more blunt questions. After viewing the trailer for the new color purple, and after seeing the review of why did i get married from movies that move we... 1) Discarding who produced the film, Would you finance the 2023 color purple film as it is? 2) Discarding who produced the film, would you finance why did I get married/why did i get married 2? Both of my answers to said questions is no. If I owned a studio and I had to give money to make the 2023 color purple or tyler perry's why did i get married produced, I would say no to both. Now comprehend, I gamble the 2023 color purple film will like its predecessor make a ton of money. The original color purple film had a budget of fifteen million and make ninety eight million so black film goers loved the film and I expect them to love the musical with its cast. As for Why did I get married, the first movie i did not find the budget but it made fifty five million. While why did i get married too had a budget of twenty million and made sixty million. Now knowing the financial history, I ask if you owned a movie studio and were needed for the films 1) Discarding the financial profitability of the color purple films plus assuming you knew the profitability, Would you finance the 2023 color purple film as it is? 2) Discarding the financial profitability of the why did i get marrieds plus assuming you knew the profitability, would you finance why did I get married/why did i get married 2? Both of my answers to said questions is no. If I owned a studio and even if I knew these movies will be financially profitable and was needed to get these movies made, I still will not produce them. why this line of thinking? In discussing the preacher's wife I realized something is lacking in discourse in the arts. The owner. Too often people talk about liking a film in the mindset of the customer controls. but the customer doesn't control. The owner controls. No film studio produces all sorts of films, stories. That isn't wrong, that merely shows acceptable bias based on ownership taste. So in the same context, I feel for now the question is not whether I like a film but whether I will put money to a film if I was needed for it to be made. Answering that question reveals the truth about the customer more than the customer question which is foolhardy cause customers have varying tastes and if enough customers like a movie/theater production/book or some art, it will be financially a success, regardless to those that don't like it. MY REASONS... in a nutshell My top five movies answer explains my reasoning well but I will be explicit. The color purple is not the kind of story I want to see based on the time period. The why did I get married's black marital situations I don't want to finance. TOP FIVE MOVIES I WILL PRODUCE https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/10653-the-upside-from-movies-that-move-we/?do=findComment&comment=64110 some more film discussion https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/10681-the-preachers-wife-review-from-movies-that-move-we/
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I'll refrain from my criticism of The Color Purple out of respect for my Mother. It was one of her favorite movies.
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This is a damn shame this bias charge was made
ProfD replied to Stefan's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
Spike Lee put that dude in a few movies and he feels comfortable talking at Black folks recklessly. N8gglets need to stop kicking it with folks like Rappaport and stop doing interviews with that Vlad guy. Exactly. A few Black talking heads feel obligated to say something but for the most part Black folks are minding their own bizness even if they've got none. Picking lint out of one's own navel is better than opening a pie-hole and speaking on these dust-ups. -
...men talking about the sexuality of women. smh. Freud did this. Even went so far as to deconstruct the female orgasm; something he, of course, never experienced. A classic example of male presumptuousness. And just another reason why communication between black men and women becomes blurred. Everybody has heard the old cliche contending that "women give sex to get love and men give love to get sex". This is true because what a woman really wants is the emotional intimacy and sensuality of sex. She doesn't necessarily need the verbal BS or the perspiration-tinged smell of stale cologne to arouse her. She can get off on her ability to fantasize and let the skills of the somebody who lets his penis do the talking, temporarily transform him into the man of her dreams. And then there's the astute observation that a woman's sex organ is her brain, not her vagina - which isn't even an organ, but an orfice. If a man knows his way around a woman's body he's aware that all the erogenous zones lie in the areola, and the labia which are just teeming with the potential for fire-works via the the Bartholian glands. Clitoral climaxes come in second to the earth moving G-spot variety. Nor should foreplay to be overlooked, Not every women has to be peeled off the ceiling to be satisfied. Being tenderly caressed and gently nipped can also thrill, all of which boils down to her sexuality being an extension of a female's individual personality. Vibrators are called sex toys and that's just what they are. Toys to facilitate recreational sex. They are not a replacement for males, they are an alternative to them. ( Less lascivious than the porn movies men resort to. ) In a study, when asked if they'd rather go shopping or have sex, more women actually said shopping, and when questioned as to whether they'd rather spend an evening at home, curled up in bed, watching TV instead of hangin' out in a singles bar, hoping to get lucky, they were evenly divided on their preference. Go figure. Yea, every woman appreciates a good lay. But a lot of factors figure into it. In the future Artificial intelligence may even become a factor, rearing its ugly head, making things hard.
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The Preacher's Wife review from Movies that Move we
Pioneer1 replied to richardmurray's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
richardmurray MAN....I thought about YOU today at work when I was washing my hands, lol. I was talking to another brother and had a quick FLASH of inspiration of the type of movies I wanted to make if I had the money and connections to produce them. I had them down pat, exactly what I wanted to produce.....and messed around and forgot it by the time I got home. We were talking about Denzel Washington and his new Equalizer movie.....and then he wanted to play Hannibal in another flick. I wanted to do a SERIES of movies kind of like that. Along the lines of Equalizer, Matrix, Friday, etc..... -
The Preacher's Wife review from Movies that Move we
richardmurray replied to richardmurray's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
@Pioneer1 he was thinking it will be a hit. It makes sense to me. .. the sad thing about the film business is most films earn less than what is made to make them, this is a historical fact. Second, the competition matters in the film buisness. any film that came out during episodes 7/8/9 oepning weeks of star wars got hammered. PReacher's wife came out in 1996. December, who came out around the same time. Jerry maguire came out before. mars attakcs. I can see how preacher's wife was ok but then scream came out five days later. that probably was the killer. Many black people love horror movies. So, the white audience just got finished with jerry maguire which is a romance. And then scream 1 came out and that drained many others. so I Can see how preacher's wife was hurt. And lastly, Movies where the black ticket buyer comes out heavily in my memory: malcolm x which is a biography made triple its money /the lion king of disney / black panther of disney /girl's trip which is a comedy/get out which is a horror film/coming to america which is a comedy. I am probably missing something/posse which made six times its money which is a western/new jack city made five times its money is a street crime film/waiting to exhale which made four times its money is a drama but a collection of stories/... i can't recall a film centered around a black married couple being among the most ticket sold films involving black people. And I think you love the films of the 1970s, forgive me if it wasn't you but another, but in the 1970s, again, none of the films are marital dramas. Coffee/shaft/superfly/three the hard way / and others, none are marital dramas. so the black ticket buyer has yet to be given a black marital drama on its own that they are willing to go to the movies to see. So this film was a gamble based on black movie buyers habits and even with denzel washington + whitney houston it wasn't able to get black ticket buyers. And I will add cause film is a collective art project. Maybe the casting was bad but I don't mean in terms of acting but how fanbases can have expectations on actors. I don't think the whitney houston or denzel washington fanbases like their placement. I wonder if denzel wasn't the hsuband and whitney the wife while courtney b vance was th eangel would this movie gone differently. Denzel at that itme is the black man who gets the girl so to speak and maybe the fact that he wasn't, had an negative effect onhis fanbase. when i saw him on stage side viola davis, even though troy is not the gentlest black man, black women enjoy him as the husband. I heard thigns from the audience. Courtney b vance is in a lovely marriage from my vantage point to angela bassett, he is a nice looking guy right? but, the film legend of denzel is so great that myabe that choice, which i imagine denzel liked, to not get the girl , cost the film. I have said it before baout the WIZ, if diana ross layed the good witch of the north and let stephanie mills be the dorothy on film, i think the wiz becomes a huge hit. I think black women/girls/females would had responded greater to a little black girl in such a big budgeted film, being utterly cute and loveable and pretty and the winner over a black grown women in her 40s pretending to be girlish. casting matters and is usually underrated by many when they assess films, sometimes it can be that simple. -
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Troy replied to aMhayes's topic in Black Literature
Welcome to the forums @Jean2021. The Florida governor is attempting to leverage the fear and insecurity created by an exploitative system that is weakening the middle class and class and keeping many more in poverty. I live in Florida, a relatively liberal area, Tampa, but over the past decade everything has gotten more expensive housing, insurance, water, energy, restaurants -- everything! I have never seen this type of inflation. I brought my mom a pack of cigarettes in NYC the other day and it cost me $18! Take someone to the movies in NYC, get some popcorn and a soda and you are talking 80 bucks. Go to a decent restaurant for dinner meal, order a couple of cocktails, and dessert -- you better have $200! Hotels in NYC fuhgeddaboudit! The mayor got rid of Air BnB, so the hotels have taken advantage. White folks storming the capital is not surprising at all -- especially when you consider all the misinformation on the web... -
The Preacher's Wife review from Movies that Move we
Pioneer1 replied to richardmurray's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
I did see the Preachers Wife. I don't remember much of it though.....lol. It was one of those rare Denzel Washington movies that I didn't care too much for. I'm not sure what he was thinking when he made that one. They could have saved some money and took it straight to the Lifetime Channel. On the flip side of that same coin.....just got through seeing Equalizer 3! It was pretty good. Very violent....but good performance.
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