Wow....Just Watch And Listen

[Pioneer1]

frankster

 

 

They both convey the same General meaning - which sufficient.

 

MOSTLY isn't the same as ALWAYS....period.
That's a gross miscalculation.

 

This is why I question your position and understanding on "theories".

Instead of respecting the pin-point accuracy often necessary to establish truths and facts and separate them from falsehood and guesswork....you seem to conflate a lot of it together.

 

 

 

 

Then it Life Giving.

 

Again, not to the tree who got hit....lol.

Neither giving NOR supporting.

 

 

 

 

But they mean the same in the context of Scientific Theory

 

See, this is what I'm talking about.
You fail to understand that they don't mean the same thing.

 

ACCEPTED and CONFIRMED are two different words with two different meanings REGARDLESS of circumstance or setting.

Just because they are used in scientific literature, doesn't mean the definitions all of a sudden "changed up" to mean the same thing.

If you told me that you were a Black man I'd ACCEPT you at your word, that doesn't mean that I've CONFIRMED that you are.
 

[frankster]

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

frankster

 

 

They both convey the same General meaning - which sufficient.

 

MOSTLY isn't the same as ALWAYS....period.
That's a gross miscalculation.

They differ only in degree....it is not a miscalculation.

 

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

This is why I question your position and understanding on "theories".

Your own post and definition agree with where I stand on the Issue...

 

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Instead of respecting the pin-point accuracy often necessary to establish truths and facts and separate them from falsehood and guesswork....you seem to conflate a lot of it together.

Do not confuse semantics with accuracy....

 

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Then it Life Giving.

 

Again, not to the tree who got hit....lol.

Neither giving NOR supporting.

The Tree Gave its Life....To support Life

 

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

But they mean the same in the context of Scientific Theory

 

See, this is what I'm talking about.
You fail to understand that they don't mean the same thing.

 

ACCEPTED and CONFIRMED are two different words with two different meanings REGARDLESS of circumstance or setting.

Just because they are used in scientific literature, doesn't mean the definitions all of a sudden "changed up" to mean the same thing.

If you told me that you were a Black man I'd ACCEPT you at your word, that doesn't mean that I've CONFIRMED that you are.
 

You are Confusing  Sophistry and Semantics as Scientific  Inquiry.

If you accepted and restated that I was or is Black ......Then you have Confirmed my Assertions of Blackness.

• Fact: In science, an observation that has been repeatedly confirmed and for all practical purposes is accepted as “true.” Truth in science, however, is never final and what is accepted as a fact today may be modified or even discarded tomorrow."
• https://ncse.ngo/definitions-fact-theory-and-law-scientific-work

[Pioneer1]

frankster

 

They differ only in degree....it is not a miscalculation.

 

ALL is not the same as MOSTLY.

If you were in court and admitted to the judge that you told MOST of the truth but not ALL of it, what do you think the judge will say?

 

 

 

Do not confuse semantics with accuracy....

 

But when it comes to science, there is little room for semantics.
Every word has a specific meaning.

 

 

 

The Tree Gave its Life....To support Life

 

The tree didn't GIVE it's life, it was TAKEN by the lightning.

The lightning is part of the same nature that you said was ALWAYS life giving and supporting.
Yet this part of nature ENDED a life.

 

That's not semantics.
That's a direct  contradiction of your position.

 

 

 

 

If you accepted and restated that I was or is Black ......Then you have Confirmed my Assertions of Blackness.

 

If I accept it and restated it I merely ACCEPTED and RESTATED it.
I didn't CONFIRM it until I VERIFIED it for myself that it was a fact.

 

 

Dictionary

Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more

 

 

 

 

 

con·firm

/kənˈfərm/

verb

 

1. 1.

   establish the truth or correctness of (something previously believed, suspected, or feared to be the case).

 

 

As for the link you provided....

Sure something can be confirmed AND accepted.
One doesn't cancel out the other.
Infact, usually things ARE accepted once they are confirmed.

 

My point is that they are NOT THE SAME.

You can accept something WITHOUT confirming it.

[frankster]

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

frankster

 

They differ only in degree....it is not a miscalculation.

 

ALL is not the same as MOSTLY.

If you were in court and admitted to the judge that you told MOST of the truth but not ALL of it, what do you think the judge will say?

That what I have to add will not change any of the Facts Germane to the case....The difference is inconsequential.

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Do not confuse semantics with accuracy....

But when it comes to science, there is little room for semantics.
Every word has a specific meaning.

Some times more than One meaning....nuanced

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

The Tree Gave its Life....To support Life

 

The tree didn't GIVE it's life, it was TAKEN by the lightning.

We covered this Already   here is "was actually killing living things.....which is a natural occurrence in nature"

Now you confusing Parlance(how we use words) and Meaning.

Lightning cannot take....Lightning Strikes

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

The lightning is part of the same nature that you said was ALWAYS life giving and supporting.
Yet this part of nature ENDED a life.

Life is Energy....Life can not be destroyed or ended only transformed.

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

That's not semantics.
That's a direct  contradiction of your position.

No its semantics...plain and simple - let's venture down this rabbit hole of semantics and parlance

Where did the "lightning" take the tree's life to....?

Where is the Life of the Tree Now?

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

If you accepted and restated that I was or is Black ......Then you have Confirmed my Assertions of Blackness.

 

If I accept it and restated it I merely ACCEPTED and RESTATED it.

Exactly

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

I didn't CONFIRM it until I VERIFIED it for myself that it was a fact.

If you say I was or is black...Then that is you confirming my assertion that i am black - that is you saying  i am black

if you say that i say i am black...then that is you confirming that i say i am black - that is you saying that i said i was black

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

 

 

Dictionary

Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more

 

 

 

 

 

con·firm

/kənˈfərm/

 

verb

 

1. 1.

   establish the truth or correctness of (something previously believed, suspected, or feared to be the case).

 

 

As for the link you provided....

Sure something can be confirmed AND accepted.

yes

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

One doesn't cancel out the other.

true

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Infact, usually things ARE accepted once they are confirmed.

Yes

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

My point is that they are NOT THE SAME.

Never said they were....but context is essential

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

You can accept something WITHOUT confirming it.

 You can....but most people want confirmation

[Pioneer1]

frankster

 

 

That what I have to add will not change any of the Facts Germane to the case....The difference is inconsequential.

 

Ofcourse you don't have to change any facts germane to the case, all you have to do is add LIES and FALSEHOOD to it to make a difference...lol.

The judge thinks you told MOSTLY the truth, but sprinkled a FEW lies here, there, and round-a-bout, lol.

 

 

We covered this Already   here is "was actually killing living things.....which is a natural occurrence in nature"

 

Yes, we KEEP covering it over and over again because you don't want to admit to your poor choice of words by saying nature is ALWAYS life giving and life supporting.

 

 

 

 

Lightning cannot take....Lightning Strikes

 

Lightning "takes" atleast 2 things:

1. It takes a certain amount of TIME to strike something
2. It often takes the LIFE of that which it struck.
 

-It even sometimes TAKE your sight away temporarily if you are looking directly at it and it strikes close enough.


 

Life can not be destroyed 
 

....by humans.




 

Where did the "lightning" take the tree's life to....?

 

Where exactly, I'm not sure.
But OUT of the tree, that's for sure.

 

Where is the Life of the Tree Now?
 

It's a bit of an illogical question.
The tree is dead and has no life of it's own.



 

If you say I was or is black...Then that is you confirming my assertion that i am black 
 

No sir.



 

- that is you saying  i am black
 

Yes sir.

More specifically, that's me REPEATING that you are Black based on what YOU told me.

But it hasn't been confirmed.



 

if you say that i say i am black...then that is you confirming that i say i am black 
 

Yes sir.



 

- that is you saying that i said i was black

Yes sir.

However I would be simply confirming what you SAID...not what you ARE.
Two different things.

That's why ACCURACY matters.


You can....but most people want confirmation
 

Now we may be making SOME progresses...lol.


If only we could get the Bible and other so-called "holy" books and go through every verse like this....lol

[frankster]

On 12/30/2023 at 7:52 AM, Pioneer1 said:

frankster

That what I have to add will not change any of the Facts Germane to the case....The difference is inconsequential.

 

Ofcourse you don't have to change any facts germane to the case, all you have to do is add LIES and FALSEHOOD to it to make a difference...lol.

The judge thinks you told MOSTLY the truth, but sprinkled a FEW lies here, there, and round-a-bout, lol.

I have only told the truth....just not all of it - for some truth is only tangential.

 

On 12/30/2023 at 7:52 AM, Pioneer1 said:

We covered this Already   here is "was actually killing living things.....which is a natural occurrence in nature"

 

Yes, we KEEP covering it over and over again because you don't want to admit to your poor choice of words by saying nature is ALWAYS life giving and life supporting.

Nature is Always Life Giving and Supporting....Humans Mostly see Nature as Positive

 

On 12/30/2023 at 7:52 AM, Pioneer1 said:

Lightning cannot take....Lightning Strikes

 

Lightning "takes" atleast 2 things:

1. It takes a certain amount of TIME to strike something
2. It often takes the LIFE of that which it struck.
 

-It even sometimes TAKE your sight away temporarily if you are looking directly at it and it strikes close enough.

Lightning does not "Take" Time Life or Sight anywhere?

If so Where?

 

On 12/30/2023 at 7:52 AM, Pioneer1 said:

Life can not be destroyed 
 

....by humans.

Life can only be Transformed and or Transmuted

 

On 12/30/2023 at 7:52 AM, Pioneer1 said:

Where did the "lightning" take the tree's life to....?

 

Where exactly, I'm not sure.
But OUT of the tree, that's for sure.

The Life of the Tree has been Transmuted into various.....Micro organism, Flora and Fauna

 

On 12/30/2023 at 7:52 AM, Pioneer1 said:

Where is the Life of the Tree Now?
 

It's a bit of an illogical question.
The tree is dead and has no life of it's own.

Death is One of the process of Nature....Change and or Renewal.

 

On 12/30/2023 at 7:52 AM, Pioneer1 said:

if you say I was or is black...Then that is you confirming my assertion that i am black 
 

No sir.

Yes Sir..... if you say that "I am black" then you have confirmed my assertion.

 

 

 

On 12/30/2023 at 7:52 AM, Pioneer1 said:

- that is you saying  i am black
Yes sir.

More specifically, that's me REPEATING that you are Black based on what YOU told me.

But it hasn't been confirmed.

That is you Confirming

It is a part of the scientific process to continually and repeatedly confirmed theories

 

On 12/30/2023 at 7:52 AM, Pioneer1 said:

if you say that i say i am black...then that is you confirming that i say i am black 
 

Yes sir.

Ok

 

On 12/30/2023 at 7:52 AM, Pioneer1 said:

- that is you saying that i said i was black

Yes sir.

However I would be simply confirming what you SAID...not what you ARE.
Two different things.

Then that is you Confirming that "I Said I was Black"

There is no confusion on my part....Repeatable Confirming Theories is part of the Scientific Process.

 

On 12/30/2023 at 7:52 AM, Pioneer1 said:

That's why ACCURACY matters.

.Hence the necessity of Repeated Confirmations....from other sources and schools of thought.

 

On 12/30/2023 at 7:52 AM, Pioneer1 said:

You can....but most people want confirmation
 

Now we may be making SOME progresses...lol.

Not to worry....I Am Patient

 

On 12/30/2023 at 7:52 AM, Pioneer1 said:

If only we could get the Bible and other so-called "holy" books and go through every verse like this....lol

You cannot handle that......Whilst science tries to be discrete - Scriptures deliberately obfuscate.

[Pioneer1]

frankster

 

Nature is Always Life Giving and Supporting....Humans Mostly see Nature as Positive

Here we go again...lol.

Repeating the same thing over and over and saying it with conviction does NOT make it correct.
That statement have been proven incorrect.
You can dwell on it if you like but I'm moving on.

 

 

 

Life can only be Transformed and or Transmuted

 

According to who?
Doesn't your Bible teach that God Created Life?

 

 

 

 

Yes Sir..... if you say that "I am black" then you have confirmed my assertion.

 

If I said "HE SAID he was Black", then I'm confirming it.

 

 

 

 

 

It is a part of the scientific process to continually and repeatedly confirmed theories

 

No no no....repetition is NOT confirming.
Here we go again....lol

 

And once again, if it's a THEORY then it has not been confirmed.

 

 

 

There is no confusion on my part... 

Really?

 

 

 

..Repeatable Confirming Theories is part of the Scientific Process.

 

According to Hawkins, there are no "confirmed theories".

 

 

 

 

 

Scriptures deliberately obfuscate

 

Just another reason for me NOT to believe in them or their "divinity".

[frankster]

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

frankster

 

Nature is Always Life Giving and Supporting....Humans Mostly see Nature as Positive

Here we go again...lol.

Repeating the same thing over and over and saying it with conviction does NOT make it correct.
That statement have been proven incorrect.
You can dwell on it if you like but I'm moving on.

I have seen no such Proof

 

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Life can only be Transformed and or Transmuted

 

According to who?

African Spirituality

 

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Doesn't your Bible teach that God Created Life?

God = Nature

 

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Yes Sir..... if you say that "I am black" then you have confirmed my assertion.

 

If I said "HE SAID he was Black", then I'm confirming it.

 No...You are confirming what was said by him.

 

 

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

It is a part of the scientific process to continually and repeatedly confirmed theories

 

No no no....repetition is NOT confirming.
Here we go again....lol

 

And once again, if it's a THEORY then it has not been confirmed.

You quoted Hawkins: 

Each time new experiments are observed to agree with the predictions the theory survives, and our confidence in it is increased; 

 

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

There is no confusion on my part... 

Really?

Yep

 

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

..Repeatable Confirming Theories is part of the Scientific Process.

 

According to Hawkins, there are no "confirmed theories".

In the sense that it is not final.

 

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Scriptures deliberately obfuscate

 

Just another reason for me NOT to believe in them or their "divinity".

cool

[Pioneer1]

frankster

 

 

I have seen no such Proof

 

Then I'll make it PLAIN to you and then I'll let it go.....

 

You said Nature is ALWAYS life giving/supporting.

I gave you examples of how lightning can kill a tree, and there are other examples like a lion killing a deer, or the sea drowing a person....examples of nature KILLING and TAKING life.

Whether you acknowledge your error is up to you.

 

 

African Spirituality

 

I don't know of any African Spiritual system that said life can ONLY be Transformed or Transmuted.

 

 

 

 

God = Nature

 

So you clearly don't believe in the Bible if you believe that, lol.

According to the Bible, God CREATED nature.

 

 

 

No...You are confirming what was said by him.

 

No, I'm confirming that it WAS said...not WHAT was said.

 

 

 

 

You quoted Hawkins: 

Each time new experiments are observed to agree with the predictions the theory survives, and our confidence in it is increased; 

 

Yes, the THEORY survives.
But it remains a THEORY....not a scientifically proven FACT.

 

 

 

In the sense that it is not final.

 

Whatever the case may be, it's still just THEORY and not FACT.

It's a scientific THEORY not a scientific LAW.
 

[frankster]

30 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

frankster

 

 

I have seen no such Proof

 

Then I'll make it PLAIN to you and then I'll let it go.....

 

You said Nature is ALWAYS life giving/supporting.

I gave you examples of how lightning can kill a tree, and there are other examples like a lion killing a deer, or the sea drowing a person....examples of nature KILLING and TAKING life.

Whether you acknowledge your error is up to you.

Where you see death...I see The Transmutation of  The Tree.

 

 

 

30 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

African Spirituality

 

I don't know of any African Spiritual system that said life can ONLY be Transformed or Transmuted.

Yes there is a lot we do not know.....Death is a Transition.

 endorses such a view claiming that “Those who are dead are never gone: they are in the thickening shadow… they are in the wood that groans, they are in the fire that is dying… they are in the forest, they are in the house, the dead are not dead”.

http://mojaafryka.weebly.com/life-after-death.html

 

30 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

God = Nature

 

So you clearly don't believe in the Bible if you believe that, lol.

According to the Bible, God CREATED nature.

I see no difference....Nature Created God or God created Nature - Nature = God

 

30 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

No...You are confirming what was said by him.

 

No, I'm confirming that it WAS said...not WHAT was said.

No ...since in this case you have failed to make the distinction between He said and what You are saying.

 

30 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

 

 

 

 

You quoted Hawkins: 

Each time new experiments are observed to agree with the predictions the theory survives, and our confidence in it is increased; 

 

Yes, the THEORY survives.
But it remains a THEORY....not a scientifically proven FACT.

It was always a Theory

 

30 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

In the sense that it is not final.

 

Whatever the case may be, it's still just THEORY and not FACT.

It's a scientific THEORY not a scientific LAW.
 

Change is the Only Constant....Theories Laws and Facts are subject to Change

[Pioneer1]

frankster

 

 

Where you see death...I see The Transmutation of  The Tree.

 

You can SEE what you like.
The question you should ask yourself from time to time is does YOUR sight line up with THE reality?

 

 

 

Yes there is a lot we do not know.....Death is a Transition.

 

I repeat....
I know of no African Spiritual system that says life can ONLY be transformed or transmuted.

 

 

 

I see no difference....Nature Created God or God created Nature - Nature = God

 

According to the Bible YOU believe in, God created the Heavens and Earth (nature) in 6 days.
Is that correct?

 

How can He create nature if He already is nature?

 

 

 

Change is the Only Constant....Theories Laws and Facts are subject to Change

 

Men and women change clothes, change ages, and change their hair styles too.....but they still aren't the same as eachother.

Not sure what point you're trying to make here.....lol.

[frankster]

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

frankster

Where you see death...I see The Transmutation of  The Tree.

 

You can SEE what you like.
The question you should ask yourself from time to time is does YOUR sight line up with THE reality?

It Does.

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Yes there is a lot we do not know.....Death is a Transition.

 

I repeat....
I know of no African Spiritual system that says life can ONLY be transformed or transmuted.

Did you read the quote i gave above...

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I see no difference....Nature Created God or God created Nature - Nature = God

 

According to the Bible YOU believe in, God created the Heavens and Earth (nature) in 6 days.
Is that correct?

 

How can He create nature if He already is nature?

Nature and God is the Same....Pantheism

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Change is the Only Constant....Theories Laws and Facts are subject to Change

 

Men and women change clothes, change ages, and change their hair styles too.....but they still aren't the same as eachother.

Not sure what point you're trying to make here.....lol.

Simply....Everything is subject to change - hence the reason we keep Re-confirming our theories thereby growing our understanding.1

[Pioneer1]

frankster

 

 

Did you read the quote i gave above...

 

Yes.
Help me out please.

Show me the part of your quote that stated:  "life can ONLY be transformed or transmuted."  

 

 

Nature and God is the Same....Pantheism

 

I'm not sure but that statement sounds like CONFUSION-ISM to me.

 

 

 

Simply....Everything is subject to change - hence the reason we keep Re-confirming our theories thereby growing our understanding.1

 

That's the thing....you're not "re-confirming" theories.
A theory is only confirmed ONCE and after that it's no longer a theory but a fact/law.
 

[frankster]

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

frankster

Did you read the quote i gave above...

Yes.
Help me out please.

Show me the part of your quote that stated:  "life can ONLY be transformed or transmuted."  

 

Well what do you think it means?

 

 

 Life is an unfolding, a process of "formation and transformation" that starts before birth and does not end at physical death

https://www.encyclopedia.com/environment/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/afterlife-african-concepts

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Nature and God is the Same....Pantheism

 

I'm not sure but that statement sounds like CONFUSION-ISM to me.

Cool....I understand that you are confused 

 

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Simply....Everything is subject to change - hence the reason we keep Re-confirming our theories thereby growing our understanding.1

 

That's the thing....you're not "re-confirming" theories.
A theory is only confirmed ONCE and after that it's no longer a theory but a fact/law.

On that we will have to disagree.

[Pioneer1]

frankster

 

 

Well what do you think it means?

 

What it SAID....not what you're trying to "read in" to it.

 

 

 

Cool....I understand that you are confused 

 

Well if you think I'M the one who is confused....you really DON'T understand, LOL.

You claim the Bible, then turn right around and contradict it with some of your beliefs.

 

 

 

On that we will have to disagree.

 

We don't HAVE to...you CHOOSE to.

But that's your right.

 

[frankster]

12 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

frankster

 

 

Well what do you think it means?

 

What it SAID....not what you're trying to "read in" to it.

What does it say?

 

12 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

 

 

 

Cool....I understand that you are confused 

 

Well if you think I'M the one who is confused....you really DON'T understand, LOL.

You claim the Bible, then turn right around and contradict it with some of your beliefs.

Show me where I contradict?  

 

12 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

On that we will have to disagree.

 

We don't HAVE to...you CHOOSE to.

But that's your right.

Exactly.

[Troy]

Interesting conversation.

 

@frankster did you profess to be a Christian? You don’t sound like one, God created the heavens and the earth, as pioneer wrote. But the religious dogma that was handed to us by our slave masters, has been perverted, perhaps beyond recognition. Maybe you are practicing one of the religions that Christianity was derived from. pantheism is incompatible with Christianity.

 

@Pioneer1 theories are always being tested. the theory of relativity, for example, has withstood many tests and proven many different ways, but that does not mean it can’t be modified, or completely abandoned as we learn more. 

[frankster]

11 hours ago, Troy said:

Interesting conversation.

 

@frankster did you profess to be a Christian? You don’t sound like one,

No...I do not consider myself a christian

Do I Obey the 42 Confessions of Maat...yes.

Do I uphold and live by The Ten Commandments...Yes

Do I try to Imitate the Christ....yes

Do I practice The Noble Eightfold path...Yes.

 

In short I try to be True to the Spirit

 

11 hours ago, Troy said:

God created the heavens and the earth, as pioneer wrote.

Yes....God is the Heavens and The Earth - Autogenous.

 

11 hours ago, Troy said:

But the religious dogma that was handed to us by our slave masters, has been perverted, perhaps beyond recognition.

True...but not Beyond Recognition.

 

11 hours ago, Troy said:

Maybe you are practicing one of the religions that Christianity was derived from.

True..I get your Meaning -

I prefer Spiritual Traditions...instead of Religion - though the true meaning of(the word) religion is blameless.

 

11 hours ago, Troy said:

pantheism is incompatible with Christianity.

Acts 17:28 

Luke 17:20-21

 

11 hours ago, Troy said:

 

@Pioneer1 theories are always being tested. the theory of relativity, for example, has withstood many tests and proven many different ways, but that does not mean it can’t be modified, or completely abandoned as we learn more. 

I recognized the above was not directed at me

but at  Pioneer1 who is only being provocative and obstinate as I have told him already that I am not a Christian.

Pioneer1 and I are now in the Reductio Ad Absurdum Argumentum Phase of our dialogue....We are way pass Meaningfulness - currently drowning in the swamp of Equivocation.

[ProfD]

10 hours ago, frankster said:

Pioneer1 and I are now in the Reductio Ad Absurdum Argumentum Phase of our dialogue....We are way pass Meaningfulness - currently drowning in the swamp of Equivocation.

Brotha @frankster, I'd imagine you’ll jump off the merry-go-round at some point but let me type that it's entertaining as h8ll from the sidelines. 

[Troy]

11 hours ago, frankster said:

Pioneer1 and I are now in the Reductio Ad Absurdum Argumentum Phase of our dialogue....We are way pass Meaningfulness - currently drowning in the swamp of Equivocation.

LOL!

 

 

[frankster]

1 hour ago, ProfD said:

Brotha @frankster, I'd imagine you’ll jump off the merry-go-round at some point but let me type that it's entertaining as h8ll from the sidelines. 

@ProfDIt was way too much fun .... and challenging to just abandon ship - "A luta continua vitoria e certa" 

[ProfD]

11 hours ago, frankster said:

@ProfDIt was way too much fun .... and challenging to just abandon ship - "A luta continua vitoria e certa" 

Glad you find fun in it. 

 

Both you and @Pioneer1 bring food for thought, debate and humor to the forum.

 

Totally appreciate the contributions you all make to the various topics of discussions here.

[Pioneer1]

On 1/10/2024 at 10:03 PM, Troy said:

Interesting conversation.

 

@frankster did you profess to be a Christian? You don’t sound like one, God created the heavens and the earth, as pioneer wrote. But the religious dogma that was handed to us by our slave masters, has been perverted, perhaps beyond recognition. Maybe you are practicing one of the religions that Christianity was derived from. pantheism is incompatible with Christianity.

I didn't figure he CONSIDERS himself a Christian.....although I suspect he still believes in Jesus Christ as his lord and savior.
But I must admit.....
His statements claiming God and Nature are the same and then equating God to Heavens/Earth....is a bit of a twister for me, lol.