Nicholas Feliciano

[richardmurray]

this video is from the ny times it evades the visions of laughter from law enforcement. SOmeone attempting to hang themselves is funny.

 

 

the following is from ny1 where i got the stills, most of the news outlets to their forever dishonor have omitted form their videos the clear evidence of law enforcers laughing at this.

I know many see the issue as feliciano but for the issue is black law enforcers who think hanging is a joke. I don't even know what my parents parents who knew what a hanging of a black person was like will say. I wonder. Let alone my parents, parents, parents whom i know were abused by whites in various ways I will not go into. 

Offline, black people have defended black law enforcers actions with a veil of love. 

Online, similar black folk have praised or repreived black law enforcers. 

But now I have irrefutable evidence of the true negative nature of Black law enforcers in the usa, a tribe in the black populace in the usa. 

For now on I will share this whenever anyone brings up a black law enforcer. Black law enforcers are not honorable, they are hungry.  In the same way black people join the military , black people join law enforcement. For food. The black populace of the deep south, places like flint michigan, the fiscally poorest black regions fuel the ranks of the us military cause these are the black people with the least money and they don't have the ability or desire or support to act illegally for financial betterment. so the military or cops it is.  the difference is the military's structure or role has a strict function, preserving the empire. Preserving the empire warrants far more negative actions than law enforcement will ever know but said actions require a certain tact which is absent in law enforcement. Law enforcement has always been a legal mob, a legal gang, A legal operator in illegal activity, getting continuous payments while free from any of the negative judgements. Black law enforcers in the usa for me  betray more of black peoples forebears in the usa than any other group in the usa. seconded by black soldiers. 

https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/public-safety/2024/04/08/family-speaks-out-about--28-7m-settlement-after-suicide-attempt-on-rikers-island

 

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[ProfD]

There's no entertainment in watching another person die by any method. 

 

It's definitely an insult to our forebears for Black folks to make a joke of hanging.

 

Yet, the further removed from our history Black folks get, the more indifferent they will be to the brutality and oppression and post traumatic stress inflicted upon generations of people. 

 

Mention anything related to slavery and its after effects and some people will literally say that it was a long time ago and we need to get over it.

 

A combination of miseducation and cognitive dissonance have led many Black folks to finding alternative ways to navigate the prison of racism white supremacy.

 

Right now, Black history is being whitewashed. The endgame is having future generations of Black folks believe slavery never existed and accepting racism white supremacy.

[aka Contrarian]

This is a touchy subject. I'm inclined not to make generalities about black cops or those in the military, members of 2 organizations which, in a violent society, are necessary evils that deter chaos.

Not every arrest of a black man  involves gun happy police brutality, or every calling out of the guard an over reaction. There are a lot of   criminals and mentally ill black  offenders out there harming innocent black bystanders who always seem to be diminished by the high profile "driving-while-black" cases. Here in Chicagoland hardly a day goes by without devastated loved ones crying on TV newscasts over their innocent children killed during random shootings.

Chicago's Police force is heavily black and many of these law officers are  women of color.  It's complicated.

 

Chicago's own Ida B. Wells was an  early and tireless crusader against lynchings in the south. I think the last officially acknowledged hanging occurred in 1937 back when Jim Crowism was  rampant in the South, and the KKK a visible presence. Glib black men nowadays talk about what Blacks could've and should've done to prevent lynchings.  Easier said than done suggestions that ignore how  hard  times were back then. White supremacy was the law of the land in the South, and  Blacks had little recourse against lynchings. Ideas about organizing  to combat lynching got nowhere  because of the risks involved and the fear of retaliation and the stronghold of white authority. What Blacks did do when they got in trouble back then  was to flee the south, often leaving town in the middle of night,  hitching rides on trains headed up North. I  personally knew 2 different guys who parents had quickly spirited  them up north after they'd gotten in trouble with white townsfolks down south. "America, the land of the free and the home of the brave"; the free white man -  and the brave  black nigga is what we used to say back when Billie Holiday sang about "strange fruit", hangin'  from the trees. 

Lynching is still a term that occupies a special place in the black vocabulary. Uncle Clarence Thomas  referred to the white-approved charges of sexual harassment brought against him by a black  Anita Hill,  as a "high tech lynching". And he was set free to go forth and inflict further damage on his race..

 

It's possible that latter day black people associate hanging with suicide, never connecting it to lynching because of how different the circumstances are that brought about the act. How black cops react to a body dangling from a rope would undoubtedly differ from one to another and laughter would hardly be a unanimous reaction.

 

Whatever. I'm still divorced from the black "race", which doesn't need or miss me, so it doesn't really matter what I think. 

 

 

[ProfD]

Societal dysfunction is like cancer. There's no money in the cure. Plenty money to be made maintaining it.

 

A whole lotta folks are getting paid through social dysfunction  i.e. law enforcement agencies, judicial system, prison industrial complex, hospitals, social services, etc.

 

That's just to name a few. So many ancillary businesses and services draw money from the same well.

[richardmurray]

@ProfD in the black conference on day 4, linked below,  i think a sister said a similar thing about how people call writing about slavery trauma porn.

Adding her position to yours, I do realize the issue is integration. I will explain. For over one hundred and fifty years, since the end of the war between the states, the majority of black leadership in the usa has sought integration to whites, those who once completely enslaved us. And in that time the black populace who at the end of the war between the states was compelled more to kill whites, nat turner's leadership, leave the usa, garvey leadership , through the efforts of said majority leadership [douglass /web dubois/booker t/ida b well/sojourner truth] the majority of the black populace in the usa embraced in varying styles or qualities or intensities , integration. 

But, some things can be integrated. Some things are segregatory. Legacies are one of those things. This is why the scottish people keep talking about cessation from england. The scottish people never wanted to be in england. The english government used money and the members of the scottish government/parliament [a majority of scottish leaders] to create a peaceful union against the wishes of the scottish people, that is a legacy that will always hold true, even though today most scottish people in varying ways embrace the united kingdom.

The legacy of being enslaved is unique to Black DOSers. It isn't with other black people from nigeria or jamacia. It isn't with non blacks. It isn't with non black native americans. It is a legacy that can not be integrated. It is unique to black dosers. And, it is negative. 

So i concur to the power of time as you suggest but I do think the issue of Black DOSers wanting to integrate at all cost in a populace in the usa that is getting more and more filled with people who have no relationship to Black DOS tradition, unlike white people descended from enslavers or native americans,  and don't care. 

It is a blackwashing, but not from miseducation as much as a desire to be happy in the integrated mix of the usa. 

I will rewrite myself and argue, I think many black DOSers want to be like the black folk who just come to the usa in 2024. IT isn't an antiblack desire as much as a desire not to have a legacy which if honest puts one at odds with the usa or the white people in it while less innocent as the rainbow of immigrants since the immigration act. 

And, black leadership in 150+ years in the usa has rarely embraced the concept of something black people have are unique and can't be integrated. In the same way, native american leadership has done similar. 

... yes the prison industrial complex has grown in palin sight. 

 

@aka Contrarian yes it is very touchy. 

First, taking out the entertainment industry, no industry in the usa has a greater black presence than black people as legal men of arms [us military/law enforcemeent agencies of state or city] plus the incarcerated. So I am talking about the second most important industry to black people in the usa. Which has led to levels of financial wealth or financial security for black homes throughout the usa on the armed side while led to many broken homes on the incarcerated side. 

Second, even though the black populace owns no gun making firms in the usa , to my knowledge, and there was a time in the usa when white people called knives, nigger guns, cause black people were dissuaded by the white populace to own guns the modern black populace from the nineteen hundred and sixties to now have got access to guns and the financially weak situation of the black populace in the usa has led to street violence. I have to say one thing, white people in chicago committed levels of gun violence that black people never did and have not. PEople forget how chicago/new york/los angeles white populaces had levels of gun violence that would shock modern media if it was to happen. I know in nyc, the irish/italian mob wars. 

Third,  no organization in humanity is evil. Humans who do good  for other humans is in every organization in humanity, regardless the percentage. 

So with the financial relationship to the black populace in the usa, the modern design of the gun totting, the humanity in law enforcement or similar, this is touchy. Many black people have people they live with who are law enforcers/soldiers and can't accept or will not accept them being bad mouthed. And some black law enforcers deserve to be protected from negative judgement based on their own actions. 

It is touchy. 

And Aka Contrarian, people your age in our village aren't supposed to be leading, you are supposed to be watching younger generations lead and guide even younger generations to become the leaders, so that you feel secure leading up to the moment when your spirit flies . You are a member of the black race and it always matters what you think. Your role is to live as happy as you can, and if the village is strong, support you. This is how I was raised in our populace anyway. 

You don't need to come up with the solution, that is the job of black people from younger generations like me. 

I do think the problem is the crossroads black people in the usa find themselves in. What does it mean to be statian , of the usa or american? What is the goal of the black populace in the usa? These questions rarely get answered but in them is identity. 

 

[Pioneer1]

Terrible story.

The young brutha looked like he was having mental issues.
He should have gotten the help he needed BEFORE he even ended up incarcerated.

Too often AfroAmericans (including AfroLatinos) with mental problems are ignored because the behavior they exhibit is often considered "normal" not only by most White folks but even by most AfroAmericans!

You see a young brutha walking down the street sweating and tossing his hands and rapping to himself with a crazy look on his face and you think it's just "normal" now.
If a White woman was doing the same thing....you'd stop and see if she needs some sort of help or call the cops to come get her.
But for a Black man.....let him keep going.

Then again..................

The police will usually come out to help a crazy White woman.
They'll calm her down, put her in the squad car, and take her to get some help.

But who's fault is that?
Society...including us...has trained a lot of people to VALUE the life and health of White people more.

We need to hold ourselves and our conditions to higher standards.
How can others love us if we don't love eachother enough to help those of us who need help the most?

[ProfD]

14 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

We need to hold ourselves and our conditions to higher standards.
How can others love us if we don't love eachother enough to help those of us who need help the most?

A great question that every human being should ponder.  Especially those who want the world to be a better place.

 

Unfortunately, there are too many distractions that keep people dazed and confused and indifferent to others.

 

The simple answer is *love*.  Most people know what is feels like to be loved or have an idea of how it should feel. 

 

Love just needs to be spread like a virus.  That would solve 99% of the problems between humans.

[aka Contrarian]

@ProfDThat'll be the day when Blacks  and whites  decide to forgive and love each other. I  have yet to encounter any black folks who don't harbor contempt and mistrust for white people. And most whites don't seem to care one way or another about nigras.   

 

[ProfD]

34 minutes ago, aka Contrarian said:

@ProfDThat'll be the day when Blacks  and whites  decide to forgive and love each other. I  have yet to encounter any black folks who don't harbor contempt and mistrust for white people. And most whites don't seem to care one way or another about nigras.  

True that.

 

It's not only Blacks and Whites though. 

 

The same applies to all tribes (race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, generation, political affiliation, favorite sports team, etc.).

 

As long as people see themselves differently in one way or another, it will be harder for them to love across the aisle. 

 

 

[aka Contrarian]

Never under estimate the imperfection of the human race.

But of course God loves us. (Unless we fail to please him. In which case we will be relegated to the river of  fire in hell).

[Troy]

“If There's a Hell Below We're All Going to Go” —Curtis Mayfield

 

The only consultation, and it is a fu-ked up one, is that the young man did not die, and he now has $28M.  One can argue that he is better off than he would have been... sadly.  

[ProfD]

The consolation prize of $28M means nothing to the young man because he will never be able to enjoy any parts of it in his present condition. 

 

Brotha Curtis nailed it on that song. The music is fire.

 

Of course, there's no eternal damnation of the soul. Heaven and h8ll are right here on earth.

[Pioneer1]

22 hours ago, ProfD said:

A great question that every human being should ponder.  Especially those who want the world to be a better place.

 

Unfortunately, there are too many distractions that keep people dazed and confused and indifferent to others.

 

The simple answer is *love*.  Most people know what is feels like to be loved or have an idea of how it should feel. 

 

Love just needs to be spread like a virus.  That would solve 99% of the problems between humans.

I think the key is for the RIGHT PEOPLE to start loving eachother.

There is a lot of love going on in this world, but a lot of the WRONG people are getting the love that they don't need.

At my job we just had a situation where there was a couple working together.
The woman was a good worker and actually got her boyfriend that job and he kept fucking up and instead of blaming HIM she'd blame the company and management for "picking on" him. 
He either got fired or quit and she walked right out of the door behind him....over "love".
And it was well known that he was both physically and verbally abusive to her.

Love the RIGHT people.

[richardmurray]

@Pioneer1

Did you vote in the poll question? 

 

@ProfD

Are you suggesting the native american should love everyone else in the usa? 

Why? What has the non native americans done to earn the love of the native american?

I ask about the native american because the usa story starts with them. A people didn't want the white european colonies to be created, didn't want the usa created and were killed by the colonies or the usa born from the colonies. 

Why should the native american love the non native american ? I can't say I will concur to whatever answer you have but I hope the answer isn't some egalitarianism

 

Thank you for the reply to Troy's position. The young man's grandmother admitted he had to relearn all basic skills, he is forever changed and that money will mostly go to medical bills over his lifetime. And sadly, various bloodline members who are financially desperate and will try to use him for their benefit. 

 

@aka Contrarian First thank you. Second,  I will add to your prose about black people mistrusting whites. For good reason. The reason the irish still have issues with the english it isn't for nothing. The english earned that hate. the non blacks earned the mistrust or hate from blacks in the american continent [modern day canada to argentina]. It isn't spontaneous anger.   Groups earn hate, sometimes to each other, or sometimes from one to another, but the hate/mistrust/dislike is earned. The native american has the right to hate everybody else in the usa. I think they should really.  I don't think humanity is in any danger. the world will be fine. But maybe it is time to embrace the truth about how humans want to relate to other humans and stop letting dysfunctional bureaucracies force negative relationships to get worse. I think of south africa, while many people talk of this and that, the true problem with south africa is the government of mandela and declerk was dishonest. 

blacks nor whites in south africa wanted a merger, no matter how much the wealthy blacks+whites wanted it. 

 

 

 

[ProfD]

 

1 hour ago, richardmurray said:

@ProfD

Are you suggesting the native american should love everyone else in the usa? 

Why? What has the non native americans done to earn the love of the native american?

As I stated in a post above, love would solve 99% of the problems between human beings.

 

Realistically,  I also agreed with Cynique aka Contrarian. It's never gonna happen for several reasons. 

[richardmurray]

@ProfD  

Well , you offer a solution , love between 99% in humanity. And I state a real reason why your answer isn't happening. I never say it isn't going to happen or impossible.  But you say it is an impossibility for real things. 

I may simply not comprehend the logic in offering a solution that you don't believe can happen but I wonder why you do that. 

 

 

 

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

You also made a good point that despite winning that large sum of  money, the brother probably won't get to enjoy it because of his physical and mental condition.

 

[ProfD]

4 hours ago, richardmurray said:

@ProfD  

Well , you offer a solution , love between 99% in humanity. And I state a real reason why your answer isn't happening. I never say it isn't going to happen or impossible.  But you say it is an impossibility for real things. 

I may simply not comprehend the logic in offering a solution that you don't believe can happen but I wonder why you do that.

Human greed, selfishness, jealousy, envy and hate lead to most of the problems between human beings.

 

Agape love would resolve the problems affecting human beings. For various reasons, we're not overly interested in it.

 

I understand the history of humanity and how we got to this point. Hopefully this makes my point more clear. 

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

Agape love would resolve the problems affecting human beings.

Lol....are you sure you support "agape"?
That's a religious term.

[ProfD]

17 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Lol....are you sure you support "agape"?

That's a religious term.

Right. Agape is synonymous with unconditional. Requires less letters to spell. Lazy.

[richardmurray]

@ProfD I comprehend with clarity.