Congressional Hearing on socalled Covid 19 Vaccine....inefficacy

[frankster]

The Gene Therapy popularly  known as the  mRNA Vaccine or Covid 19 vaccine.....finally some  truth  seeing the light of day

 

 

Senate Hearing on COVID-19 Vaccines

 

 

What’s in the Pfizer Documents? | Naomi Wolf

 

[ProfD]

When I heard it reporter that there was 75-year seal on the vaccine paperwork, I resigned myself to the belief that something was being hidden from the public. 

 

It could be interesting if the current administration unlocks the files and spills all beans related to the pandemic, viruses and vaccines.

[Troy]

11 hours ago, frankster said:

The Gene Therapy popularly  known as the  mRNA Vaccine or Covid 19 vaccine

 

Humm this is a surprising statement.  I have not watched the video, but what make you say that is the mRNA Vaccine is Gene Therapy?  Did the video in some way prove that the vaccine actually alters our genes?  I know anti-vaxxers have been saying this, but saying that does not make it true.

 

I previously said that 3.5 years of Trump not a big deal, but if we stop vaccinating our kids Trumps adverse impact may not be easily reversed by the next administration and can have repercussions for generations.  

[frankster]

6 hours ago, Troy said:

 

Humm this is a surprising statement.  I have not watched the video, but what make you say that is the mRNA Vaccine is Gene Therapy?

mRNA is Messenger Ribonucliec Acid....

DNA is the blue print....a sequence of DNA is a Gene

RNA especially mRNA is the copy of a part of the DNA that tells the body what to do or not do based on the part of the DNA copied.

 

Here is why I think it is a Gene therapy...

Covid 19 vaccine  is causing Our body to make the virus's spike protein - Translation(tRNA)

The spike protein is not actually coming from a weaken or piece of a virus.

The Covid 19 vaccine directly modulates RNA into instructing cells to produce a specific spike protein...to which the immune system respond

 

The CDC had to changed its definition of what a vaccine is in order to mislead the public into accepting covid 19 as a vaccine

From product to preparation from stimulating the immune system to stimulating the bodies immune response

 

Terence Howard goes a bit further by saying the spike protein is instructing the BRCA-1 Gene to shut down and allowing itself into the nucleus of the cell....and I know what he is saying makes sense because it is RNA and only RNA can cross into every cell and cell processes as well as cell nucleus

 

Terrence Howard Explains COVID Vaccines on Joe Rogan Experience!

6 hours ago, Troy said:

Did the video in some way prove that the vaccine actually alters our genes?  I know anti-vaxxers have been saying this, but saying that does not make it true.

No...the video did not directly say it alters DNA

The Congressional hearing was mostly concern with adverse effects and events of the Covid 19 vaccine in particular myocarditis.

And Corruption in Science and Health

Time stamps of interest:

7:20:00 - 12:20:00 - Overview

14:10:00 -27:15:00 - The official arguments

28:00:00 - 34:00:00

36:30:00 - 

 

 

6 hours ago, Troy said:

I previously said that 3.5 years of Trump not a big deal, but if we stop vaccinating our kids Trumps adverse impact may not be easily reversed by the next administration and can have repercussions for generations.  

Vaccines are Good

But Vaccines are now being used to bio-engineer humans to achieve trans-humanism and population control while making money....

This has been the dream of the Ruling Elite(Globalist) for over 200 yrs or since the invention of vaccine and the possibility of weaponization of it was theorized.

COVID 19 = Certificate of Vaccine ID AI

[Pioneer1]

I'm not sure WHAT to make of it now.

When it first came out back in late 2020 and early 2021 I was HIGHLY suspicious of it and thought people taking it were going to turn into Zombies or drop dead in a few months....something.

Now it seems that over 75% o society has taken these vaccines.
I'm not sure how they feel or what health issues they're going through but obviously people are still alive, many of them are still working, and the Zombie Apocalypse hasn't occurred yet, lol.

If the vaccines were so diabolical, when is the "action" going to start?


Speaking of vaccines.............
A bit of a disappointment was hearing that our brother Neely Fuller Jr. actually took one of those vaccines.
Is it a coincidence that he actually a died a few years later?
 

[ProfD]

16 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

...I was HIGHLY suspicious of it and thought people taking it were going to turn into Zombies or drop dead in a few months....something.

If the vaccines were so diabolical, when is the "action" going to start?

Vaccines won't bring the zombie apocalypse. 

16 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Speaking of vaccines.............
A bit of a disappointment was hearing that our brother Neely Fuller Jr. actually took one of those vaccines.
Is it a coincidence that he actually a died a few years later?

Neely Fuller Jr. was over 90 years old. In his voice, we could hear him gettting weaker. I believe NF Jr. died of *natural causes*.

[Pioneer1]

6 minutes ago, ProfD said:

 

Neely Fuller Jr. was over 90 years old. In his voice, we could hear him gettting weaker. I believe NF Jr. died of *natural causes*.

...interesting how nature waited over 90 years and decided to "cause" his death right after he took that hot-shot.

[ProfD]

2 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

...interesting how nature waited over 90 years and decided to "cause" his death right after he took that hot-shot.

Coincidence. The longer we live the closer we get to death. Nobody lives forever regardless of what they do or not.

[Pioneer1]

5 minutes ago, ProfD said:

Coincidence. The longer we live the closer we get to death. Nobody lives forever regardless of what they do or not.

Just because a person is eventually going to die.....doesn't mean they have to RUSH it, lol.

I still find it hard to believe Mr. Fuller took that shot.
If I hadn't heard him say it out of his own mouth....I wouldn't have believed it.

[ProfD]

3 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Just because a person is eventually going to die.....doesn't mean they have to RUSH it, lol.

Explain that to someone who's in pain and suffering from a terminal illness.

[Troy]

1 hour ago, frankster said:

Terence Howard goes a bit further by saying the spike protein is instructing the BRCA-1 Gene to shut down and allowing itself into the nucleus of the cell....and I know what he is saying makes sense

Oh my, so you’re going to listen to Terrence Howard over the scientific community?

 

Profd this is exactly what I was talking about in my other post crackpots like Terrance Howard gets a massive audience on Joe Rogan’s podcast and people are completely misled. 

The Covid vaccine simply does not go into the nucleus of the cell and modify one’s genes. 

in middle school, we learned about the structure of the cell the cell wall, the mitochondria the nucleus… I don’t know what to say….
 

The one potential saving grave of these anti-cancers is that maybe they’ll catch smallpox and be dropped from the gene pool.

 

 

[ProfD]

12 minutes ago, Troy said:

Profd this is exactly what I was talking about in my other post crackpots like Terrance Howard gets a massive audience on Joe Rogan’s podcast and people are completely misled. 

Gotcha.

 

Again, I agree that it doesn't make sense to give an entertainer or athlete a platform just because they're good at entertaining. Folks are best served to stay in their lanes.

[Pioneer1]

8 hours ago, ProfD said:

Explain that to someone who's in pain and suffering from a terminal illness.

You shouldn't.
They should be allowed to make their own choice without the added psychological burden of being made to feel guilty over that choice.

But in the vast majority of cases, the survival instinct remains the strongest instinct in human beings.

 

[ProfD]

6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

You shouldn't.
They should be allowed to make their own choice without the added psychological burden of being made to feel guilty over that choice.

But in the vast majority of cases, the survival instinct remains the strongest instinct in human beings.

True on both accounts.

 

The human desire to live despite the circumstances and/or prognosis is amazing.

[frankster]

15 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I'm not sure WHAT to make of it now.

When it first came out back in late 2020 and early 2021 I was HIGHLY suspicious of it and thought people taking it were going to turn into Zombies or drop dead in a few months....something.

Now it seems that over 75% o society has taken these vaccines.
I'm not sure how they feel or what health issues they're going through but obviously people are still alive, many of them are still working, and the Zombie Apocalypse hasn't occurred yet, lol.

If the vaccines were so diabolical, when is the "action" going to start?


Speaking of vaccines.............
A bit of a disappointment was hearing that our brother Neely Fuller Jr. actually took one of those vaccines.
Is it a coincidence that he actually a died a few years later?
 

Its called gradualism(Fabianism)

This maybe lost on you....

A frog in boiling water will not jumb out until it is too late..

In other words they are thinking two or three generations down the line.....you know like 75 yrs from now

 

14 hours ago, Troy said:

Oh my, so you’re going to listen to Terrence Howard over the scientific community?

If he is using science they way I understand it then yes

 

14 hours ago, Troy said:

Profd this is exactly what I was talking about in my other post crackpots like Terrance Howard gets a massive audience on Joe Rogan’s podcast and people are completely misled. 

So because the messenger is a regarded as a crackpot....you do not listen to see if what he is saying is true scientific and make sense?

 

14 hours ago, Troy said:

The Covid vaccine simply does not go into the nucleus of the cell and modify one’s genes. 

The Covid Vaccine is a mRNA device.

Where is  mRNA found or from?

Where can mRNA not go in the human body?

 

14 hours ago, Troy said:

in middle school, we learned about the structure of the cell the cell wall, the mitochondria the nucleus… I don’t know what to say….
 

The one potential saving grave of these anti-cancers is that maybe they’ll catch smallpox and be dropped from the gene pool.

Or maybe spread it  change it and call it something new...

[Troy]

5 hours ago, frankster said:

If he is using science they way I understand it then yes

 

What Terrence is doing is not science allow an actual scientist to explain.  Howard's thoughts are on math, not the Covid vaccine, but it gives you a sense of how he thinks and why what he says is of no interest to me.  Again, the fact that others are taking in what he says is scary.

 

 

6 hours ago, frankster said:

So because the messenger is a regarded as a crackpot....you do not listen to see if what he is saying is true scientific and make sense?

 

No, not if I can help it. I listened to Terrence for a few minutes, but once he revealed himself to be nutty I lost interest.

 

6 hours ago, frankster said:

The Covid Vaccine is a mRNA device.

Where is  mRNA found or from?

 

Franster, there are reputable sources (not Terrence Howard, Joe Rogan, or that Kennedy fellow) where you can learn more about this.  But from middle school biology.  The DNA is in the nucleus of the cell.  The mitochondria though inside the cell is outside the Nucleus.  The Covid Vaccine can not alter your DNA.  This is just a fact. 

 

6 hours ago, frankster said:

anti-cancers

 

I wrote "Anti-Vaxxer."  I retyped it at least three times and my stupid spell check changed it again behind my back!

 

 

[Pioneer1]

7 hours ago, frankster said:

Its called gradualism(Fabianism)

This maybe lost on you....

 

 

If you're the vessel it's coming through....it probably will be, lol.

[aka Contrarian]

mRNA is the vaccine that I got one shot of and  one booster jab a year. I'm not an anti vaxxer but I never got around to getting any more shots. In December 2022 I contracted covid pneumonia and made a complete recovery leaving my doctors completely amazed considering I was 89 years old, and they decided to forego giving me the vaccine, deciding  I had built up a natural immunity. They didn't want to rock the boat or fix anything that wasn't broken, I guess.

That was about  the time  i began to feel like I was shifting between parallel universes and experiencing the supernatural episodes as well as having a brief conversation with my late husband, an occurence facilitated by  crystals I had scattered around my dresser. (My portable land phone  phone seemed to be a portal). I also began to wonder why my life was being extended. Something I continue to wonder about. Also,I sometimes feel like I'm being watched. Strange.

Ooops got carried away.

[frankster]

5 hours ago, Troy said:

 

What Terrence is doing is not science allow an actual scientist to explain.  Howard's thoughts are on math, not the Covid vaccine, but it gives you a sense of how he thinks and why what he says is of no interest to me.  Again, the fact that others are taking in what he says is scary.

 

 

Let us not make this about Terence

Now I clearly stated Terrence took it further than I would.....but that does not negated the facts 

So lets deal with the information and not personalities

 

From Pubmed:

The mode of action of COVID-19 mRNA vaccines should classify them as gene therapy products (GTPs), but they have been excluded by regulatory agencies. Some of the tests they have undergone as vaccines have produced non-compliant results in terms of purity, quality and batch homogeneity. The wide and persistent biodistribution of mRNAs and their protein products, incompletely studied due to their classification as vaccines, raises safety issues

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10342157/

 

 

Here is a excerpt from the Journal Nature;

There are essentially two main types of vaccines: gene- and protein-based [4]. Gene-based vaccines, including attenuated viruses, recombinant viral vectors or mRNA-containing formulations, are typically designed to encode immunogens without mutating host DNA. Gene therapy contributed significantly to early development of gene-based vaccines. Interestingly the converse is also true in that rapid developments in the field of vaccinology have advanced gene therapy. Moreover, there is considerable overlap between advancing gene therapy and gene-based vaccines for disease management (Fig. 1). Developing gene-based vaccines is informed by uncomplicated rational design principles that use readily available sequence information. Sequences typically encode pathogen-derived immunogens, such as the Spike protein of SARS-CoV-2.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41434-024-00502-9

 

 

5 hours ago, Troy said:

No, not if I can help it. I listened to Terrence for a few minutes, but once he revealed himself to be nutty I lost interest.

cool....I listen to everybody and then evaluate the information they bring not the person bringing the information...

 

5 hours ago, Troy said:

Franster, there are reputable sources (not Terrence Howard, Joe Rogan, or that Kennedy fellow) where you can learn more about this.  But from middle school biology.  The DNA is in the nucleus of the cell.  The mitochondria though inside the cell is outside the Nucleus.  The Covid Vaccine can not alter your DNA.  This is just a fact

I do have more respected and reputable sources....that support my arguments.

 

5 hours ago, Troy said:

. I wrote "Anti-Vaxxer."  I retyped it at least three times and my stupid spell check changed it again behind my back!

I noted that you did not respond to any of my queries