Another Mass Shooting--National Guard?

[ProfD]

There was a mass shooting in Minneapolis, MN today. 2 children killed and 17 people injured.  The shooter killed himself.

 

So far, there has been no mention of sending the national guard to MN or hiring more police officers.

 

 Nor have they addressed mental health and gun control to stop these crazy mass shooters from getting an arsenal of weapons and ammunition.

 

The reality is that white folks are perfectly fine with killing each other and anybody who gets in their way. 

 

White folks' biggest fear is Black folks having enough nerve to stop killing each other and redirecting that energy.  Their objective is to control it.

[aka Contrarian]

A lead story in Chicago's news today reports that a black cop has brought a law suit against the Chicago Police Department, charging it with racism adter a group of his fellow white  officers harassassed him with threats and racial epithets when he attempted to intervene while several of them were manhandling a pregnant perp who was a black sista. 

There have always been rumors about there being a KKK element witin Chicago's police department. 

There were also a recent story in the  news  about a black cop visiting down south filing a suit after being stopped and harassed by white police officers while driving.

 

This country needs to stop trying to rescue and preserve Democracy and just let the red and blue states go their separate ways. The USA no longer exists.

[ProfD]

8 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

There have always been rumors about there being a KKK element witin Chicago's police department. 

IMO, that element has always existed in police departments across the nation to some degree. Another form of control. 

 

8 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

There were also a recent story in the  news  about a black cop visiting down south filing a suit after being stopped and harassed by white police officers while driving.

Reminder that regardless of profession or position in society, Black folks' inescapable uniform is their skin color.

 

8 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

This country needs to stop trying to rescue and preserve Democracy and just let the red and blue states go their separate ways. The USA no longer exists.

IMO, the red and blue states are not very different when it comes to certain issues especially as it relates to non-white folks.

[Troy]

11 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

This country needs to stop trying to rescue and preserve Democracy and just let the red and blue states go their separate ways.

 

It is not that simple.  I was always harassed by NYC police officers even the Black ones!  Ome of my earliest memories was a Black cop squeezing my arm so tight that he hurt me because I was walking on the grass in the projects this was like 1965! 

 

All of my interactions with police here in Florida has been respectful and even helpful! One even retuned a wallet I lost which required calling around to get my number and driving it to where I was! Something like that happening in NYC is unimaginable.

 

Racism does not respect geographic boundaries.  if it did you might find the most racist people in the north east!

 

[aka Contrarian]

Of course you are both right, ProfD and Troy. In desperation and disgust, I seek simple solutions to complicated problems. 

"Everybody hates a cop - until they need one."

And racism is about more than red and blue states; it's the "nature" of the beast."

You'd think after all this time I wouldn't have to be reminded of all this.

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, aka Contrarian said:

And racism is about more than red and blue states; it's the "nature" of the beast."

You'd think after all this time I wouldn't have to be reminded of all this.

Many Black folks either think racism doesn't exist and/or it has somehow gotten *better*. 

 

Then, there's the sellout n8gglets and sleight of hand tricks that deflect or distract from racism.

 

Reminds of those cell phone videos and police body cam videos where the authorities try to tell us not to believe our lying eyes.

[richardmurray]

@aka Contrarian

15 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

This country needs to stop trying to rescue and preserve Democracy and just let the red and blue states go their separate ways. The USA no longer exists.

Well, historically the union you refer to arguably has never existed outside of the law. 

The southern states only embraced independence from the british empire on condition that enslaving would be untouched and thus they saw it as a way to make more money, not for any human equality or egalitarian reason , so from the beginning the two blocks of states existed. The war between the states prove from cessation from the british empire to said war, the two blocks existed. Jim crow's variance, from the end of the war between the states to the late 1970s prove two blocks, from the northern block where black people were herded into cities that were then cut off from funding while whites went into northern suburbs to the southern block where black towns were terrorized to never be able to grow ever beyond an impoverished place, forcing black people away even leaving loved ones to die by lynch mobs. Now from the 1980s to 2025 you have a traditional southern white populace voting/planning to preserve itself in the southern block while the traditional northern white populace has integrationed itself unlike any time in usa history which has presented a multiracial component to northern states life that makes it foreign to southern states which are tribalized internally. 

The problem militaristically is the usa has the largest horde of nuclear weapons of any government in modern humanity, the largest military operation of any government in modern humanity, and with a split, who controls those weapons? and yes, that matters and yes even if both blocks of states were fully engaged, both will want that control. 

Now, legally, one way exists for the usa to split. 

So you have a set of states, meant to be self sufficient, in a federation for collective defense with a complete history of abrasive variance in heritage or culture. A military operation that is the largest in the world and will be fought over if a break up occurs. 

 

What is the solution? 

The declaration of independence + the amendment process. The declaration of independence clearly states, that any form of government is acceptable if the populace want it. People in the usa talk of voting but the truth is, the declarations words show that a monarchy can return as long as the people truly support it. The rule of the people from the declaration isn't about voting or elected office, it is about a more abstract idea of people power making any government style or form possible. To restate , the declaration of independence isn't saying a monarchy is undemocratic. it is saying a monarchy the people don't want is undemocratic. 

So, a splitting of a federation into two isn't against the spirit of the declaration of independence. 

And the amendment process literally allows for any law to become instilled. An unchangeable law that breaks the usa into two federations is completely possible by the amendment process. Congressional law or Supreme court rulings or executive orders all have limitations or impotencies. but the amendment process alone adds to the constitution with no manipulation, afterward or during. 

 

So the question is what is the wisest law to make an amendment to the us constitution to you get the states to split ? 

The military and the financial power of the usa are the impediments. A white sheet wearing, confederacy cross tatoo having white man from an all white mississippi town will not accept the "southern block" not having the us military for protection or the financial clout of the dollar operating in his life. A kente cloth wearing lgbtq+  flag tattoo having  white transexual woman from San Francisco will not accept the "northern block" not having the us military for protection or the financial clout of the dillar operating in her life. 

Now once you take those two things away , it is doable. So what can this hypothetical proposed amendment be?  

The federal government will remain as a protector to two federations but modulated. The constitution remains in tact, but on freeze, until the two federations unite. 

The congress is frozen, abolished until reunion. The supreme court is frozen and abolished until reunion. The us military remains in tact protecting all the states, but now the president has only the district of columbia+ territories of the usa as places the president is privy to. No camp david. All military bases in the fifty states need to be evacuated by the us military to not show favoritism or influence. The territories of the usa: guam/Puerto rico /virgin islands/various pacific ocean islands will have to be fitted for military bases. Guantanemo in cuba as well. The federal reserve must remain. 

Both the "Northern Block" + "Southern Block" have their own judiciary + their own congress. Some sort of arrangement on federal funds [nitty gritty] will have to be decided. Southern block will not want population to decide and want some weight scale. While Northern Block will want a wider range of residents to allow for federal funds. 

 

It is impossible to see, but here is the problem. The people of the USA are little peoples really. Always have been. The First Peoples aren't powerful enough. The DOSers aren't communal enough. The Whites are not honest enough. The immigrants aren't realistic enough. They all will reject anything like what I just said, even though it fits legal parameters, is nonviolent, and embraces giving the three hundred million plus strangers a little of the space, most have always wanted from some other. 

 

The problem aka contrarian is the same thing that plagued the war between the states. General Beausejour tlred Robert Lee or dreamy jefferson davis the simple engineering truth. Put up a fence, on the mason dixie, focus the military south to mexico to get a trade outlet and were done, success the confederacy exist. But, Lee , an old white man who like so many white people in the usa, remembers the good old days for whites while doesn't consider how terrible said days were for others, wanted to prove he could take the whole country, a last horah for the silver haired general, very napoleonic, who also acted as stupidly in his european conquest. Jefferson Davis who clearly envied Lincoln wasn't happy with his slice of the pie and wanted to one up. But Lee + Davis were not alone. The generals of the Union including Grant as well as Abraham Lincoln were guilty as well. Lincoln could had ordered the same line be drawn but didn't for pride. He goaded Lee and Davis , knowing them well, and while some suggest incorrectly, he preserved the union, what he did was betray his role as the commander in chief. The role of the commander in chief is the safety of everyone in the usa. If Lincoln was serious about that safety he would had placed a fence, since the north had maritime control very early on and thus all the sea trade advantage and embraced the two state solution. The president's job is the safety of all people in the usa, even if the people don't want to be together. All those deaths in the war between the states are Lincoln's fault and are not forgivable for the constitution through the amendment process allows for complete government flexibility through the law+ the declaration of independence allows for complete government modulation. If brothers are tired of brothers then let them split. why fight the will of the people Lincoln? The answer is pride. And Lincoln's pride cost more than the white community, Jim Crow and the never ending waves of assault on First peoples, commonly called native americans, is lincoln's fault as well, because in forcing the union, he forced the dislike that led to the war between the states in the first place to mutate into various other things, whether he lived or was assasinated. The generals of the Union pre Grant, were clearly envious of Lee and wanted to best him thus their foolish zeal, which led to the need to get black troops which mean those generals had literally made the primary error of any commander in war by not assessing your army properly. to make a plan that forces your army to change is the sign of the utmost mismanagement. I end with Grant. Grant inherited a problem. The war was at a stalemate. William Tecumseh Sherman correctly realized the stalemate after all the bloodshed would never end in peaceful resolution as long as the confederacy could fight. The time for that was at the beginning of the war with General Beauregard's plan , which lincoln, lee, davis earlier generals of the union all wasted with their agendas. Sherman allowed Grant to not be the bad guy and go for the throat. Grant did and it was over. The north always had trade supremacy. The south never figured out how to improve trade, which is why Beauregard told them to do that. 

And the point of this is, regardless of people who have wisdom, the usa then circa 1865 and now circa 2025, have a populace of people who are like Lee, Lincoln, Davis, they love telling another I told you so, making them see "The Light". This is not restricted to the U.S.A. It is very human and always when you have abrasive groups who share a heritage but have a different heritage as well and especially a different culture. If North Korea would had not needed to have the entire peninsula and let south Korea be a little city state at the south of the island circa May 1950 North Korea would be most of the Korean peninsula today, absent any intervention by USA or China or Russia or Europe. If Ireland would just let Northern Ireland go no talks of continuing troubles will persist. If the Yoruba/Igbo/Hausa can accept they don't want to be Nigerian, they can grow freely better from each other. The anglophiles in Jamaica and the Rastafariansin Jamaica can realize that their two paths can never make one Jamaica... 

As in this little community, African American Literary Book Club, in the massive world wide web proves in its forum daily, the ability of Statians to "I told you so" is so strong, they love to do that offer acting functionally to the causes they say they want. 

And so what I say will not occur in the USA, which is the functional answer to your call. 

[aka Contrarian]

@richardmurrayWell, as I confessed to Troy and ProfD, I made the mistake of offering simple soltions to complicated problems. 

I don't really think there will be any official separation of red and blue states, or that racism will completely go away in my lifetime.

Time is the only hope. It brings change but as we know, it is gradual. 

 

Thanks for your insightful analysis of the situation. 

[richardmurray]

@aka Contrarian

Well I am going to defend your original position and not because your birthday recently passed:) 

You didn't make a mistake at all. What you said originally wasn't simple, it was the truth. The truth doesn't have to be an essay, or speech, nor should it be expanded or contracted in verbosity. It can be one sentence. My entire reply simply supported your one sentence, so my reply wasn't needed. Is it not true the first peoples, commonly called the native american, warrant their own country? Is it not true DOSers warrant their own country? Is it not true Whites have killed and enslaved nonwhites to their benefit in their country, the USA? Is it not true, immigrants come to the usa for the impotency under the governments they left? If all of the prior questions are true how is what you said not the truth? 

The problems aren't complicated either, the problems are the truth. Whites don't know how to lose. Centuries of winning does that. First people and DOSers don't know how to win, centuries of losing does that. The immigrants don't want instability. They came because the usa is stable. A break up of the usa is instability, shaking things up. The one thing immigrants fear more than anything cause instability reminds them of the countries whose flags they wear in the usa. 

The problems are simple, the people of the usa are the problem. 

 

And you have never suggested prescience , you are too wise for that. 

5 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

Time is the only hope. It brings change but as we know, it is gradual. 

I will amend, time plus life is hope. Change is usually gradual but not always. And the truth is, the choices people make determine the future. Even if they think their choice is unimportant.  Cause every life touches another even after a passing. 

[Pioneer1]

The killer was a Trump supporting transgender.
Just to show you how confusing and how confusED these racist right-wing clowns are.

 

 

 

ProfD

 

IMO, that element has always existed in police departments across the nation to some degree.
 

That's not just an opinion.
The FBI came out and TOLD us in a memo that White racist organizations were trying to and in some cases have infiltrated law enforcement agencies around the country.





 

Troy

Ome of my earliest memories was a Black cop squeezing my arm so tight that he hurt me because I was walking on the grass in the projects this was like 1965! 
 

You remember 1965?
 

Damn!

Well....

Since you remember that, do you remember Malcolm'x assassination and what the mood was like in the community?
That was in 1965 and I believe it was in the Harlem/Washington Heights area.

 

[ProfD]

7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

The killer was a Trump supporting transgender.
Just to show you how confusing and how confusED these racist right-wing clowns are.

Interesting. The trans-killer had written "kill Donald Trump" on one the ammo magazines.

[Pioneer1]

 

ProfD

Yeah, I read that too!
I read where he/she/it once was an avid supporter of Trump and even voted for him in the recent election, then turned against him for some reason.
These people are confused as hell.

What they AREN'T confused on is:
1. They love violence
2. They DON'T love Black folk

Which means I'M not confused about them and how I should interact with them.

 

[ProfD]

On 8/30/2025 at 3:53 PM, Pioneer1 said:

Yeah, I read that too!
I read where he/she/it once was an avid supporter of Trump and even voted for him in the recent election, then turned against him for some reason.
These people are confused as hell.

White folks flip flop between political parties depending on what the party selling.

 

Black folks have been fairly loyal to the same political party for many decades.

[Pioneer1]

8 hours ago, ProfD said:

White folks flip flop between political parties depending on what the party selling.

 

Black folks have been fairly loyal to the same political party for many decades.

They also flip flop for control.

The difference between when an intelligent person joins a political or religious movement and when a stupid person joins one is:

-When a stupid person joins a political or religious movement they submit themselves under the authorities of that movement and "go for the ride" or "go along to get along".
They tend to have and seek very little if any power or influence in that movement.
They're just looking for a place to "belong" and be accepted.

-When an intelligent person joins a political or religious movement that go in trying to learn as much as they can about it so they can get into power and leadership positions and CONTROL the movement, or atleast certain aspects of it....to secure some benefits for themselves and their loved one.

After about 25 year old....
When I started or joined organizations I made it CRYSTAL CLEAR that I was in it for the benefits and what it could do for me.
For example, I made it clear that I wanted sexual attention and financial benefits from those organizations WHILE at the same time contributing to them.

-Yes....you're reading correctly...lol.-
I openly told them what I wanted and expected from them when I was starting an organization or if I were joining it!
Why lie?


These weren't religious organizations.
They were mostly social and community based one.

Some people didn't like what I said but except for ONE organization, none of the kept from from joining or participating despite my open honesty...and in most of them I rose to leadership positions in one capacity or another.