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On The News In Virginia ,Neo Nazi,KKK, Protesting ,People In Virginia Planning To Move Statue Of Confederate Robert E. Lee. .Protesters  Ready To Fight The Neo Nazi. Truman's Mouth Shut,So Far. Steve Bannon ,Who Trump Appointed To  A Whitehouse Position Is A Neo Nazi ,News Says. White Police Have Been Fired For Being KKK ,Klan Members. That Is Terrorist,Organization Not A Hate Group. Neo  Nazi In .U ..S.,Military..Steve Scalise Who Was Shot At The Politician Baseball Practice ,Is A Neo Nazi,Friends With Neo Nazi Grand,Dragon David Dukes..White People Who Hate  Quarterback,Colon Kaepernick ,Condone  All This.....Not Surprised,Neo Nazi Had A Rally,Surprised The Rally Is Not,In Front Of The Whitehouse. As This Country Talk About North Korea ,Middleast  Terrorist,Neo Nazi In This Country,Planning A Race ,War ,is Okay...Black Street Gangs Like The Neo Nazi Is ,Domestic,Terrorist...

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"On The News In Virginia ,Neo Nazi,KKK, Protesting ,People In Virginia Planning To Move Statue Of Confederate Robert E. Lee. .Protesters  Ready To Fight The Neo Nazi. Truman's Mouth Shut,So Far. Steve Bannon ,Who Trump Appointed To  A Whitehouse Position Is A Neo Nazi ,News Says. White Police Have Been Fired For Being KKK ,Klan Members. That Is Terrorist,Organization Not A Hate Group............,is Okay...Black Street Gangs Like The Neo Nazi Is ,Domestic,Terrorist..."

 

Well, what do you want? As disgusting as the KKK is, if they meet the requirements for a permit to march, well, there is nothing you can do. Contrary to what you believe, all forms of political thought and expression are allowed under the constitution. Even speech and events that may be unpopular. It's the by product of a free society that allows freedom of expression no mater how controversial and unsettling it may be...

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America IS what it's been from the beginning.
A place of different races and cultures where people have to unite and fight for what they want and carve out their place in society.

So what is the NAACP going to do now?

Tell people to avoid the entre state of Virginia...and include Washington D.C. for safe measure?

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Between Nukes from North Korea, the rise of the Klan, the NFL's boycott of Colin Kaepernick, and 45 in the whitehouse.  The media must be beside themselves with glee.  So much sensational news to "report" on, so much money to be made...

 

It really would be interesting to know how much Twitter stock 45 owns.

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18 hours ago, Xeon said:

"On The News In Virginia ,Neo Nazi,KKK, Protesting ,People In Virginia Planning To Move Statue Of Confederate Robert E. Lee. .Protesters  Ready To Fight The Neo Nazi. Truman's Mouth Shut,So Far. Steve Bannon ,Who Trump Appointed To  A Whitehouse Position Is A Neo Nazi ,News Says. White Police Have Been Fired For Being KKK ,Klan Members. That Is Terrorist,Organization Not A Hate Group............,is Okay...Black Street Gangs Like The Neo Nazi Is ,Domestic,Terrorist..."

Well, what do you want? As disgusting as the KKK is, if they meet the requirements for a permit to march, well, there is nothing you can do. Contrary to what you believe, all forms of political thought and expression are allowed under the constitution. Even speech and events that may be unpopular. It's the by product of a free society that allows freedom of expression no mater how controversial and unsettling it may be...

Are you serious right now? First off a permit does not give you the right to incite a riot which these dudes did. Did you not see the white boy who mowed folks down and people were killed? This is NOT allowed. Ever. I wouldnt condone The New Black Panthers carrying weapons to march with. It can only have a bad outcome..as we witnessed. 

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@Pioneer1Well, you must be heartened by how enthusiastic White Nationalists , the KKK, and Neo nazis are "carving out their place" in this diverse American society that you find  so commendable in your beloved country.  The anti-protestors did follow your suggestion and descended upon West Virginia to fight back and this just fueled the flames and resulted in death and injury!  amerika the beautiful? Not. It's a national disgrace that something like this is still occurring in 2017 in the divided states of amerika where people who tell Democrats to get over losing the election can't seem to get over the south losing the civil war and feel the need to preserve the statue of their hero General Robert E. Lee at any cost! 

 

@Troy What would you have the media do differently when it comes to reporting what doesn't have to be hyped but is sensational in and of itself??? Why shouldn't these disturbing events be discussed on social media?  Should reporting the news be something that is done for free?

 

@Linda Chavis  Tell 'em! You're absolutely right! 

 

 

 

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@Cynique, sorry, when I was referring to media I meant the news media.  Obviously, people are free to talk about anything they want to social media.  This discussion forum is a form of social media.

 

It is impossible for journalism to be done for free, but the current model is not serving the population very well. Indeed it is the model that put 45 in office.  I'm all for taking a few billion from the defense budget and using it to fund a news agency to free it from commercial influence.

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Cynique

The anti-protestors did follow your suggestion and descended upon West Virginia to fight back and this just fueled the flames and resulted in death and injury!


You win some, you lose some......but atleast that crowd of protestors CONFRONTED the racists instead of runnning away as the NAACP advises.

Infact, I was more White people out there fighting these racists than BLACK people!

Again, I blame it on the "can't we all just get along" mentality of the NAACP that makes fools out of Black people who beg to get along with and live with their open enemies.

The crowd should have surrounded that car and beat the shit out of that driver BEFORE the police got a chance to arrest him.

In Black neighborhoods, how many Black men have gotten beaten up or shot by other Black people just for hitting one person BY ACCIDENT?

I'm not the toughest man in the world but, you mean to tell me this dude and driver over and hit 35 people and safely sit in the ride until the police come to escort him to safety?


Come on.........

 

 



Troy

I'm all for taking a few billion from the defense budget and using it to fund a news agency to free from commercial influence.


I've often day dreamed about Black people starting the first mainstream UNCENSORED news network that features nearly unedited stories with the profanity and violence that often accompanies real life events without the blurs and beeps.

Perhaps a commercial free network would be the best means of going about this because you wouldn't have to worry about sponsors dropping your programs over disagreements with the content.

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@Pioneer1Come on,  yourself.  The NAACP is not adopting a "can't we all just  get along attitude".  That's your spin.     The NAACP is, after all,  an organization whose original and primary function has to do with using the courts and take a legal approach to confronting discrimination.  
 

You sound like a wanna-be Black Panther, advocating an aggressive  "hands-on" approach. You see where that got them. No where. Exactly where your hot air argument leads to.

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Pioneer have you ever tried to stop a moving automobile?  Surrounding the vehicle was not an option as long as it could be driven.

 

Regarding the network it has to be paid for.  Unless the government takes the money from us, the way they fund defense, we would never subsidize a network like this on our own.

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I actually take some of what I said back.

Upon looking at another video of the incident I do see where some in the crowd actually did mob the car and tried to get the dude.
In real life situations like that, there's not too much more you can ask of people.

I'm still trying to figure out where the police were while all this fighting and car ramming was going on.



Troy

 

Regarding the network it has to be paid for. Unless the government takes the money from us, the way they fund defense, we would never subsidize a network like this on our own.


It would take billions to launch a network like CNN.
But what's stopping various Black commuities around the nation from starting independent news programs featuring uncensored news through local community access channels?

After a dozen of so of them get off the ground, perhaps in a decade or two they can pool their resources together to form a major network.

It would be a little difficult, but not impossible.

I remember as a kid you had a group of people in the area called Chaldeans who were basically Christians from Iraq who hadn't been in the Detroit area for 10 years before they had 2 of their own community access channels on cable featuring all types of news programs and entertainment shows.

Black folks had been in the area for over 100 years and didn't have as much.

I think it takes more than money, it takes DESIRE backed up by a strong will.

You have BET and TV One and Oprah's network and none of them have an actual an accredited journalistic news team to go around America and stand guard on the front lines of racial incidents like the one in Charlottesville.

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1 hour ago, Troy said:

...or fight the plutocracy.

that is implication, it is class war that needs to be fought.

 

The Chaldeans are from Iraq and can point to their history. What country are Afro-Americans from, no idea.

 

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“You saw the militia walking down the street, you would have thought they were an army … (They) had better equipment than our state police had,” McAuliffe was quoted as saying.

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Del, yes I think the true divider of people in this country, the true cause of misery for Black people (and white folks) to are the ultra rich.  It was not a Black man that killed more than half a million white boys in the civil war, it was not a Black men who sent them to die in Vietnam, Korea, the deserts of the middle east.  It was not a Black man who took their homes during the mortgage crisis.  It was not a Black peopel who outsourced their jobs and hired people from all over earth to work in silicon valley.

 

If white people got rid of every Brown person in the United States, they would actually be worse off, not better.

 

Pioneer, the military budget is $600 billion a year; more than half of our entire budget, we have the money.

 

I think the reason BET and Oprah don't do journalism is because it is hard and expensive.  Unscripted reality TV, music videos, and talk shows are much cheaper and easier to produce--i.e. far more profitable.  

 

At some point someone has to care more about informing the public than making money. The incentives of are system will not allow this to happen organically.  It has to be a public service.  45 as potus, Charlottesville, climate deniers, etc, are are all a consequence, in a large part, of an misinformed public.

 

But the other problem is that people probably would not tune in on their own; opting to watch music videos and the NFL instead.  Maybe we could require high school students to watch ... I dunno informing the public so that we can make better decisions seems hopeless.

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On ‎14‎/‎08‎/‎2017 at 10:36 AM, Pioneer1 said:

Cynique

The anti-protestors did follow your suggestion and descended upon West Virginia to fight back and this just fueled the flames and resulted in death and injury!


You win some, you lose some......but atleast that crowd of protestors CONFRONTED the racists instead of runnning away as the NAACP advises.

 

Win some or lose some. Sounds like a game. A women was killed. I happened to watch the footage. He ran people over while they were running away.

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"Win some or lose some. Sounds like a game. A women was killed. I happened to watch the footage. He ran people over while they were running away."

 

I saw that video numerous times. I also saw where Chris Cantwell. the leader of the white resistance, posted a video on YoutTube, crying like a little whiny bitch because he heard the police were looking for him! WTF??!! I couldn't believe it! Here was this wannabe Teutonic Aryan warrior, talking all kinds of racist trash, showing off his guns and defending the piece of white trash that ran those marchers down (he said the man was "defending" himself -his words, not mine!), panicking and bawling because the police wanted to talk to him. IT WAS BIZARRE AS HELL! I can't say anymore about this racist hate spewing piece of...you know...whining like a little girl. It was disgusting! This particular video shows him lying but the other video has him whining about the police wanting to talk to him.

 

A real tough white guy...???

 

Crying and whining like a little b****!

 

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You saw the militia walking down the street, you would have thought they were an army … (They) had better equipment than our state police had," McAuliffe was quoted as saying.


And that statement SHOWS you how ignorant and unprepared those in law enforcement were....or pretended to be.

A "militia" IS AN ARMY.
It's a paramilitary force that operates outside of direct government control.

And that's what the police around this nation have been letting these racist get away with for decades.
Stocking up weapons and gear and forming their own little armies.



Troy

I'm a "cliquish" type of brother......

I've found out that as long as I have other like-minded people I can work with and are willing to work with me, I can not only survive but thrive and prosper.

Maybe that's why I'm accused of being in my "own world" so much....lol.
I love to surround myself with people who share my interests or atleast my love of knowledge and politics.

It's for that reason and the fact that even if less than 10% of Black people have enough sense to appreciate an intelligent highly informative Black owned television news network, that would still mean 3-5 million strong supporting it!

Infact, I feel the 3-5 million intelligent Black people would be far more successful buying and maintaining their television programming than 50 million fools would be trying to maintain the garbage and filth they like to feed off of.


are more likely to buy and maintain the informative programming they like than would 50 million Black fools would be able to keep that garbage and filthy they like on the air
3-5 million intelligent Black folks are far more effective than 50 million Black fools who feed their minds on garbage and filth.

Which is why I don't see World Start Hiphop lasting too much longer.

I'm sure intelligent positive Black people could come up with SOMETHING if they sat down to figure it out.
Right here in Detroit the WORD network is one of the largest Black owned broadcasting stations in the nation....but it's Christian/gospel based so much of their programming comes from a religious slant.

 

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On ‎15‎/‎08‎/‎2017 at 9:28 PM, Troy said:

Del, yes I think the true divider of people in this country, the true cause of misery for Black people (and white folks) to are the ultra rich.  It was not a Black man that killed more than half a million white boys in the civil war, it was not a Black men who sent them to die in Vietnam, Korea, the deserts of the middle east.  It was not a Black man who took their homes during the mortgage crisis.  It was not a Black peopel who outsourced their jobs and hired people from all over earth to work in silicon valley.

 

If white people got rid of every Brown person in the United States, they would actually be worse off, not better.

 

Pioneer, the military budget is $600 billion a year; more than half of our entire budget, we have the money.

 

I think the reason BET and Oprah don't do journalism is because it is hard and expensive.  Unscripted reality TV, music videos, and talk shows are much cheaper and easier to produce--i.e. far more profitable.  

 

At some point someone has to care more about informing the public than making money. The incentives of are system will not allow this to happen organically.  It has to be a public service.  45 as potus, Charlottesville, climate deniers, etc, are are all a consequence, in a large part, of an misinformed public.

 

But the other problem is that people probably would not tune in on their own; opting to watch music videos and the NFL instead.  Maybe we could require high school students to watch ... I dunno informing the public so that we can make better decisions seems hopeless.

You are correct

 

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            Thank you Harry for starting this post.And being a citizen  of Virginia,I'm wondering why the riot policemen weren't there to begin with before all of this happened to protect both groups.

    I feel like the statues should remain .After all we got a president elected because of white supremacy,not by merit,and not because "he ran a better campaign"

but because he bought the election and yes because he was  "ULTRA RICH",plain and simple.The South is nasty and has always been nasty,(no pun intended to the good white people who have sacrificed their lives for the slaves,civil  rights,Black Lives Matter,and now all the that's happening now).But let the world see the same

dirt that's happening overseas in  other countries   it   happening over here.Let them see the statues fall like the Saddam Hussein Statue Fell when Bush's troops entered Iraq years ago .

Remember that?

And in spite of the fact that I can't stand Conservative Republicans;Thank God we do have a Congress and  a Senate or Pres. Trump would do to us the  same thing Hitler did to Germany back in the 30's.

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