richardmurray Posted November 9, 2022 Report Share Posted November 9, 2022 I like the article from Dan rather, but he misses some key points for me https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2151&type=status Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer1 Posted November 9, 2022 Report Share Posted November 9, 2022 I'm glad we were able to keep our halfway decent Democrat Governor here in Michigan! Her Lt. Governor is a Black man. Hopefully after her second term he'll run and become the first Black Governor of the state. There was a right-wing Black dude who was running for Congress in the district I live in and he loss to a White Democrat woman. Had mixed feelings about it, but it was probably better that she won instead of him in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted November 10, 2022 Report Share Posted November 10, 2022 The democratic state of Maryland elected it's 1st Black governor yesterday. The outgoing governor is a Republican. He did an excellent job too . Just goes to show the GOP doesn't have to be filled with clowns and kooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer1 Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 I've said for years that whether they are Republican, Democrat, or Independent.....Black people should vote THEIR interests. Vote for the person who promises the most and has a history of delivering on those promises, even if they're a Republican. I've said numerous times that as much as I don't like Trump and think he's a racist clown, I can't deny I made more money under him than I did under Obama. Infact, I ended up HOMELESS for several months under Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardmurray Posted November 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 @Pioneer1 I can't recall in my living memory or written record of an elected official delivering on a promise to black people explictly. I recall some speaking to black people directly, but not delivering. Can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer1 Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 richardmurray Yes, in atleast one instance. The former mayor of Detroit, Coleman A. Young. He was elected to be the city's first Black mayor back in 1974 and made several promises DIRECTLY to the Black community and delivered on many of them, including integrating the police department and making it less racist. When Coleman got into office he refused to allow 2 White police officers patrol any Black neighborhood together. If the neighborhood was Black it had to be either 2 Black officers or a White officer with a Black officer....but absolutely not two White cops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardmurray Posted November 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 @Pioneer1 thank you. few cities in the usa were or are detroit:) thanks again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer1 Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 Facts. We were kind of spoiled growing up in Detroit in the mid-late 70s and 80s. Coleman Young shielded us from a lot of the racism and police brutality that so many Black people were facing in most other parts of the nation. Detroit, Atlanta, D.C. St. Louis, and even Chicago to a certain extent has such large Black middle classes with a huge Black presence in every sector of city government so if you grew up in those cities, you most likely didn't feel the cold clutches of racism that say a person who grew up in New York, Cincinnati, or Denver did. Pushed into slums and ghettoes, being locked out of good paying jobs and being forced to rely on hustling, illegal activities, and talents just to survive. I didn't understand that anger and vitriol against the police that rappers like NWA were rapping about because most of the cops in Detroit were Black. It wasn't until I got older and started traveling to L.A., New York, etc.....that I started seeing how a lot of other Black communities lived and how oppressed they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted November 12, 2022 Report Share Posted November 12, 2022 Yep. Growing up in a Chocolate City (Washington DC) with a strong Black mayor (Marion Barry Jr.) was definitely a shield against racism and provided a whole lot of Black folks with lucrative jobs and opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardmurray Posted November 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2022 in defense of NYC @Pioneer1 NYC has a larger black upper poor or lower rich than any other city. remember nyc has a significantly larger population than detroit or washington d.c. , atlanta, back then especially. The problem is, NYC was and is so large in populace that it the black wealthy or black elected officials will never have the financial power or government control to uphold or protect the black community against the others , whites or other people of color who are trying to help themselves in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Posted November 13, 2022 Report Share Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/10/2022 at 9:01 PM, richardmurray said: @Pioneer1 I can't recall in my living memory or written record of an elected official delivering on a promise to black people explictly. I recall some speaking to black people directly, but not delivering. Can you? What a completely dumb statement. President Lyndon Baines Johnson. the nation's 36th chief executive and a Democrat, delivered on his promise of passing a Civil Rights Bill as well as a Voting Rights Bill. Man, some of us are clueless about History. On 11/9/2022 at 4:01 PM, richardmurray said: I like the article from Dan rather, but he misses some key points for me https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2151&type=status But no explanation from you. Which is proof you don't know a friggin' thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer1 Posted November 13, 2022 Report Share Posted November 13, 2022 13 hours ago, richardmurray said: in defense of NYC @Pioneer1 NYC has a larger black upper poor or lower rich than any other city. remember nyc has a significantly larger population than detroit or washington d.c. , atlanta, back then especially. The problem is, NYC was and is so large in populace that it the black wealthy or black elected officials will never have the financial power or government control to uphold or protect the black community against the others , whites or other people of color who are trying to help themselves in the same way. Another problem is New York has a very large percentage of "ethnic" Whites like Italians, Jews, and Irish who are less apologetic about their racism than the typical WASPS who make up the majority of Whites in other parts of the nation. They were less willing to compromise and concede to Black power. Some say that Latinos, Asians, and "ethnic" Whites don't feel as guilty about racism and the plight of Black Americans as do the average WASPs of America, so they are often more likely openly express their racism and do so unapologetically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardmurray Posted November 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2022 @Stefan the civil rights bill or voting rights bill was promised to many, I wasn't referring to a tentpole policy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardmurray Posted November 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2022 @Pioneer1 and to be blunt they don't have a need to be apologetic, this is where histories subtleties are important. the white anglo saxon protestants who came from england and annihilated the indigenous and enslaved the black african for financial profit pre or post independence from the british empire set up the rules of phenotypical race. Whites of asia/other parts of europe/who speak spanish simply benefitted. In defense the WASPS tried to make said other whites underclass but the world war era led the fiscally wealthy whites to stop that. The reality is, if the fiscally wealthy whites didn't allow for "white unity" and not WASP domination of the white community, the world war period happens differently. But while the rich whites pushed a white unity across religion- jews/language latinos-geography asians, they maintained an anti black wall that hindered black folk, but that wasn't the new whites responsibility or call. Now, many can argue that if one does nothing that is evil enough but, I think those as you say ethnic whites, looked out for their community while the black community in the usa, spent energy trying to make the usa something it isn't. When I look at Stacy Abrams you see the reality of the black community in the USA. in the over 150 years since the end of the war between the states. Human leader, Friend to all , Unifier, warrior of the integration agenda and yet, gets nothing. Abrams has helped a whole lot of other communities in that part of the south and a whole lot of other represenatives, but herself and the black community in georgia... not much. IT is like the civil rights act. The civil rights act was originally meant to be a black only act. When Lyndon B Johnson changed it to a tentpoll it became important for the USA today, and reflected some of the long range ideas of those like MLK jr but for the larger black community the civil rights act became nothing because with it extended to white women/white jews/white muslims/white latinos/white asians and or course the various mullatoes/mixed bloods the black community didn't get the lift that was part of the point of the original civil rights act call, which black people warranted since we never got a lift in the entirety of usa history as a group. So, they shouldn't feel guilty, it wasn't italians or white jews that set the table in the USA. And, unlike many , not all, of the Black communities leaders, their leaders overwhelmingly looked out for their own first. And I think that is always the correct action of a leader. Yeah, all humans are human. But, people want their leaders to lead to betterment, not philosophy, and too many black leaders in the usa, like stacy abrams, are so philosophical, everyone praises her but she doesn't lead to betterment to wins for herself or for her phenotypical community en large and what message or lesson does that give? So NYC's black leadership has to change, but of course, it will not. NYC's black leadership has long been entrenched in universal humanism/individualism/self accountability, and regardless of how anyone views those terms, they all gave and give black leaders in nyc from sharpton to eric adams talking points: we can only do for all/ black people have to be responsible/all new yorkers have.... even though to one of those ethnic groups, the white jew, who recently were discovered to have a set of schools with kids failing over 90% on standardized test were not told they will have the rules applied to all on them or that they have to be held responsible for failings or new york city has a standard by most black leaders in nyc. said black leaders said, they have to wait for court cases and to see what is happening and... terms they would never give black people in nyc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 Dude, SHUT UP! You're a friggin' idiot. You don't know your hairy azz from a corn on the cob. Your theories are ridiculous, your reasoning laughable and your conclusions head scratching. I've told you many times before ... LEARN TO WRITE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer1 Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 richardmurray I don't know if I'd call Stacey Abrams a warrior or even a fighter. She's a smart sister who is very politically astute, but she didn't fight for the Governorship of Georgia the first or this second time. Clearly voter suppression and fraud occurs all over that state as do most states in the Union, so she'd certainly have a case in calling out voter suppression if she chose to do so. But like a "good Democrat" she caves in to the advice her White benefactors whisper in her ear and saves her energy to help White folks get in office while denying herself the honors. She's allowing herself to become a TOOL of the Democrat Party with nothing in return for herself or her people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 For all of her efforts on behalf of the Democratic party, sista Stacey Abrams will land a cozy position in the Biden administration whenever she's ready to take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardmurray Posted November 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 @Pioneer1 fair enough @ProfD All I can say to positions is she should be the vice president now, over kamala harris. I think biden in choosing kamala harris chose someone more like himself a career elected official who has little policy value over the course of career but is well connected in certain circles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer1 Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 ProfD True A nice warm spot to sleep in, in Massa's house. "Good job girl......" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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