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Ancient KMT wasn't the beginning of civilization... but"thriving" is what led to slavery... and the rest will get you what we got. By the way, cleopatra was african and greek . You will have to get your timeline right... many women had ruled before then... as soon as rulers came into play the egalitarian society was long gone What makes some men more aggressive is psychological programming. But like I said, I don't mix biology with sociology.... Human pathological tendencies have too many causes. And that's because there's some kind of glitch on the board - so when you quote a comment- in one thread after just responding to another thread - it merges the quotes no matter where you're responding. It happened to me earlier but I caught and just deleted the response . @Troy have you noticed this?

Is loyalty from disicarnate beings enough

Assimilation and indoctrination of a different flavor for survival; that's okay Pioneer1, but your argument fails with using the name 'Nation of Islam.' Sorry, but these fine young men have little and nothing to do with Islam, with their bowties and impressive suites. I believe I mentioned in another post that Malcolm X was assassinated because of the Message of the 'Nation of Islam,' and their practices were (actually) contrary to the faith. It isn't the discussion here and I'll leave it at that. I never said 'common sense' was universal; I said: "Notwithstanding Universality." I also suggested we not get into a philosophical argument. But since you insist, let's go! Shortlist of common sense: "Look before you leap; Children should be seen and not heard; You can be or do anything you want; seeing is believing; apples are apples; No good deed goes unrewarded; etc., etc. Don't confuse these with simple cliche's, sayings, or metaphors; they are considered common sense because they suggest so-called 'sound practical judgment concerning everyday matters.' Point is, and I herein repeat "Black women [are] about the only species among the Black population ... less likely to be phony [or fake in their appearance and actions]. Certainly, no more than any psychological phenomenon common among all women." What sister Hopkin said can be generally true for all women, Black and White; without trying to mimic another person or group. THERE YOU HAVE IT!!!

Yeah, Ms. Hopkins; I was shocked that (in Papua New Guinea) homosexuality, promiscuity was part of their culture, rampant actually. That young women receive gifts from their fathers to adore their bodies to be attracted to young men for early sex. And that young men are encouraged to engage in oral sex with older men for complete manhood; to avoid keep his sexual desires in check. And, what used to an equalitarian society is now a cultural practice of appeasing the “Big Man (politician)” for political favors. Yeah, we Black folks were the first to set the stage for what the world is today!!

Erm nope... your premise was black women emulating white women by changing their appearance.. It doesn't matter to what degree - whether slicking down hair with pomenade or dying your hair blond - and lighting your skin and wearing a YT's suit to be appealing to YT... it's your stance, so degrees don't matter. And it was you who brought NoI into the equation. As I stated in my first response. And NO the sexual difference between men and women are reproductive organs ... with part of the Y chromosome creating the testosterone that creates the testes and penis . The second X from the mother is allegedly responsible for the rest of the male traits. Now if you want to say estrogen allows women to be softer with fuller baby bearing hips, lactating breast after giving birth - and higher doses of testosterone allow men to have harder bodies and no "man boobs" - yes. My point is biology is a hard science and not to be mixed with sociology.

Yep @Kalexander2... and I blame the Ancient Africans for all this bullshit. When we were an egalitarian society , a true civilization and ran the neandarthals into the caves ..life was good. When some of the Africans decided they wanted to be nobility it was the beginning of the end ... we get patriarchy which led to slavery - and coveting and stealing and corruption... And OMG @Pioneer1 would you take a night class in biology - ESTROGEN does not make women submissive It's a hormone! - estrogen is hormone that regulates a woman's menses ... it allows her to drop an egg looking for fertilization... and if it's not fertilized the estrogen level drops... But here's the kicker women have both our testosterone and estrogen hormones as do men and they both fluctuate in varying levels.. Any imbalance in those hormones then yes we may experience physical problems - but please stop mixing biology with sociology... gender stereotypes in this day and age is just plain ignorant.

Pioneer if they are chopped up how can they be loyal?

Hey people, isn't this what happens in a patriarchy society? Is a woman any less innocent than the man who makes her an offer she can't refuse? He evaluated her weaknesses, assessed her wants and/or needs and made her an offer. Whether a casual drinker, illicit drug abuser, topless dancer, or aspiring actress, she got what she wanted and Bill got what he wanted. Might matters been different if she didn't drink, use drugs, or aspired for fame in the entertainment industry? It's BS the U.S. is all-of-sudden shocked by how men get pussy, and women get what they want; even if they have to go to Court to get it. Serves him right; though, for submitting to White male ways to fulfill his needs. Thank God, for his own sake, he can afford it. We raise our daughters like products on a shelf, the more educated and attractive, the more expensive shelf she goes on; hence, the more she's worth. The only thing that's changed about the oldest profession know to man is women's awareness of her worth and methods to use it. Likewise, we teach our young men in ways of traditional society. Men don't cry, be strong and never run, and never be weak.

QueenX, I wonder if you would feel differently if Bill drugged and sexually abused you, or your daughter, or your mother?

Because your consciousness doesn't die with your physical body.