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Oh ok @Cynique, I did not read @Delano's reaction as answer to your question. I guess because it did not strike me as being particularly forthright. Perhaps this is why it did not change your opinion of Del being partial to Pioneer. The fact that Del pointed out correcting you while saying that Mel does not require correction, because she is well informed, was interesting. I'm not sure what Del's intent was but this read as if you are not well information by virtue of you needing to be corrected -- this came across as a passive dig at you. Now Mel and I are currently having a discussion/debate about a subject on which we have different perspectives. She is sharing information I don't have and I'm sharing information she does not have. I think ultimately we will both come away from the conversation more informed. Mel, like anyone else, is subject to correction. We all are more better informed about some subject than someone else here. We all come here with knowledge that others don't have. I think Cynique has a great deal of insight about human nature, or people in general. Part of it is her age, our course, but reading people was probably something she was always good at. I think Del is really sensitive. On the positive side he more empathic that most (a skill needed to be a good tarot card readers or astrologer). He is probably more inclined to come to the defense of someone he perceives as being being hurt (say Pioneer). However on the negative side he can have his feelings hurt more easily. We are unique and will always have different perspectives -- somewhere in between all of our unique perspectives is the truth.

You made the statement below The statement below sounded like an answer to me. (But he didn't change my opinion about how partial he is to pioneer. )

and the point. That's a polite way of saying your question was answered @Troy

@Troy LOL. Oh this is too funny. Really now. I get your point too. Trump is now complaining and now, he singing our song... so now we might drop our guard!... As if we didn't know about Google already! LOL. @Cynique Well said. But @Delano What can he do? What can 'we' do for now? America claims they are a Democracy of free enterprise, but this doesn't seem so to me. They claim they were against Communism but, I know i don't understand 'Communism' completely but it seems to me that it means something like 'Community property' and if so, it seems they have underhandedly forced most of us Americans to become dependent on this basis. They forced most of us out of business and free enterprise... but some people are smart enough to know how to use the best resources for now to get where they need to be later. So many of us still need to make our dollars count and go to the Walmarts and McDonalds and the Ford.... used car dealers, but only for now!

@Troy , thank you! My nana and grand aunts used to say that all the time LOL

I visited Africatown, in Mobile Alabama, a couple of days ago. The remains of some of the Africans who survived the middle passage, on the Clotilda, one of the last known (documented) slaves ships, are buried here.