umbrarchist

Is Not being an anarchist good or bad?

What do you think is better than: Black Man's Burden (1961) by Mack Reynolds https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/32390 And: Border, Breed Nor Birth by Mack Reynolds https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/30639

I try not to come across as arrogant but this is a highly peculiar situation of saying that massive amounts of Authority are wrong. I have not accused anyone of conspiracy or "hiding" anything though I am "pointing out" missing information. Calling it hiding implies that they have it. I am saying that I do not understand why they are not looking for it and pointing out that it is important and missing. I can only guess at the psychology of these failures. The maximum take off weight for the planes was 200 tons. They contained 10,000 gallons of fuel weighing about 34 tons. Each tower is said to have been 500,000 tons. But there were 6 basement levels extending 70 feet below ground and I have Never seen any "experts" specify the below ground weight versus the above ground weight. What sense does that make. I downloaded the NCSTAR1 Report by the NIST in 2007 and burned it to DVD. That report is more than 10,000 pages and said to have cost $16,000,000. One would think that it had all of the important information. I have searched it and read every paragraph containing the words 'steel' or 'concrete'. Concrete is used more than 3,000 times. Years ago I could have been more exact but I don't recall anymore. It is less than 4,000. I have encountered the "shoddy construction" implication before. The buildings stood for 28 years. Skyscrapers must support their own weight and withstand the wind. This means that every level must be strong enough to hold the total weight of all higher levels. Should level 105 contain the same amount of steel as level 5 that had to support the weight of 21 times as many stories? So why haven't lots of "experts" talked about or asked about the distribution of steel down the Towers? The NCSTAR1 Report mentions the total amount of steel three times, 200,000 tons for both buildings. Considering that the North Tower was 6 feet taller that seems rather cavalier with detail. to be continued. Tired of phone typing.

72, I'm another Dragon.

How little? I am certainly not in your league.

The world has changed since I was in 6th grade. I prefer knowledgeable of the ways of the world. Looking back accounting/finance should have been mandatory for girls and boys since Sputnik. Now we have this automobile Repo Crisis. A Lady should comprehend planned obsolescence in automobiles.

What Free work have you tried? Isn't the primary concern of this thread literacy and grade school kids might not have much money?

Are you saying that Education and Logic are irrelevant and that Bull$hit should be promoted because it creates Cash Flow?

A few months ago I was communicating with an architect via YouTube comments. He gave his name and I looked up his CV. He is on the East Coast affiliated with a major University. He said that back in 2002 that he was talking to people explaining why airliner impact and fire could not do that. Apparently the school came down on him for that so he shut up. I go to vlogs run by scientists and engineers and try to bug them about this. They do not argue. They say Nothing and ignore me. I used to buy Scientific American. I did not subscribe but I would check the news stand every month to see what the articles were. There would have to be 2 or more articles worth reading for me to buy. Entomology is science but I just don't care to read about it. LOL But since they published their mindless report on 9/11 I don't even look anymore. Most STEM people who can tolerate the years of schooling BS are not exactly rebels. I'm a dropout and sat in a chair imagining punching out some White woman for basically and smugly telling me that I had to go into debt the same amount for English literature as Circuit Analysis to get a degree. I do not give a damn what palefaces regard as a well rounded education. I just have too much self control, otherwise I would be in prison.

StraightDope has locked the thread: ============================== Sorry guys, I banned the troll. I’m going to ask @Miller to close this thread as it is attracting nutters and 9/11 CT crap is not actually suppose to be discussed any more on the board. [Moderating] Yeah, this has gone on long enough. Thread closed. [/Moderating] ============================== So what I posted may sit there at the end forever. LOL StraightDope is more than 20 years old. There is another site called SciForum. They put me on a temporary suspension for what they called "Intellectual dishonesty". I never understood what that meant. No one accused me of lying or explained what was incorrect about anything I said. But the destruction of the towers is a forbidden subject there now.

I did not post the videos on StraightDope. This message board seems to grab posts by the same user and merge them. I have never seen that before. Damn software! LOL

I was kicked off Twitter years ago. Some people cannot tell my hilarious sarcasm from true insults. ======================= When did you research the distribution of steel down the Twin Towers, including the basements? Did level 105 contain the same amount of steel as level 5 which had to support the weight of 21 times as many stories? How do Two Decades go by without lots of “experts” discussing that? ÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷ As far as I know there is NO Thread on any message board going over all of this. We would need 2 tables of 348 numbers. Each tower had 116 levels. The North Tower was 6 feet taller than the South. What were the Tons of Steel in the Core on each level? What were the Tons of Steel in the Perimeter of each level? What were the Tons of Concrete on each level? In May of 2008 Richard Gage, the founder of AE911Truth, ran one of his Dog & Pony Shows at the Chicago Circle Campus of the University of Illinois. I was there! I got in line to ask him about the distribution of steel down the Twin Towers. He looked at me like I had grown a 2nd head and said that the NIST was not giving out accurate blueprints. I had downloaded the NCSTAR1 report by the NIST in 2007. I have searched it hundreds of times for various information. The NIST does not even specify the total amount of concrete in the Towers even though sources did that before 9/11 because they were such famous iconic buildings. So why haven’t physicists and engineers all over the nation that put men on the Moon been demanding data on such Simple Questions ÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷ D Troll 4h Did you actually read my post? You know where to find that distribution of steel and concrete data? Years ago I regularly communicated with Lon Waters. He had a PhD in Applied Mathematics. He ran a website showing the cross sections of the core columns all of the way up the towers. He said that he could not find data on the horizontal beams in the core. With most of the levels 12 ft in height and 47 columns the length of horizontal steel on each level should have been about 2 1/2 times the length of vertical steel. Did the thickness of the horizontal beams vary down the structures? There are now 30 skyscrapers taller than the Twin Towers were. There are 130 skyscrapers around the world over 1000 feet tall. The Empire State Building is more than 90 years old. The Eiffel Tower is more than 130 years old. Questions about the distributions of steel and concrete should not be difficult for structural engineers. The failure to raise these questions in more than Two Decades is now more interesting than the answers to the questions. I call it The Twin Towers Affair. ÷÷÷############÷÷÷÷÷÷÷ You are a conspiracy theorist. That sort of thinking is lazy and not welcome around here. Which you would already know had you actually read the thread before you posted. You want to know how to ignore someone? There’s a little button in the upper right hand corner of your screen that looks like an x. Go ahead and click it and you’ll never have to read any more nasty messages on this board. I’m done here. ÷÷÷÷÷÷###########÷÷÷÷÷÷ [Quote]Our friend the blacksmith should maybe have been even more emphatic in his dismissal of the CT cranks, because temperatures inside parts of the WTC may have been even higher than the 1800°F that he showed turning structural steel into a noodle.[/quote] Temperature and thermal energy are related but somewhat different things. A cubic foot of air is less than 2 ounces. A cubic foot of steel is 490 pounds. So how much air at 1800 degrees has to come into contact with the steel to raise the core temperature of the steel? How long would it take? So what sense does it make to discuss this when the quantity of steel on each level is unknown? In fact the “experts” do not even raise the questions of the distribution of steel down the towers. One of the hilarious things about this is the discussion of the South Tower coming down first. The common claim is that since the impact was lower down it had to support more weight. But since it was lower down there should have been more steel therefore more difficult to heat. Then there is the matter of the South Tower impact not going into the core and the fireball exploding out the side of the building. The South Tower coming down first should be a red flag that something makes no sense. Fireman got to the 78th floor and sent out a message just before the building came down. ÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷ ROFLMBAO People who cannot think to ask about the distribution of steel down a 1000+ foot building in Two Decades talking about LAZY THINKING. Just a bunch of clowns with delusions of intellectual adequacy. ÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷ Why is this relevant? Ever heard of Physics? Ever heard of gravity? An airliner hit a 110 story building at the 93rd or 94th floor. It contained about 10,000 gallons, 34 tons, of jet fuel, sometimes known as kerosene. In less than 2 hours the resulting damage caused the upper portion of the building to fall onto the lower intact portion causing a complete collapse in less than 30 seconds. About which the NIST wrote: “global collapse ensued” !!! This involves mass, gravity, acceleration, the Conservation of Momentum, strength of materials, etc. Conspiracies are IRRELEVANT! Skyscrapers are designed to hold themselves up and withstand the wind and the designers had to figure out how to distribute the steel and the weight of concrete which had to be supported. I would expect that the Eiffel Tower would give everyone a clue about how the 100,000 tons of steel in the North Tower had to have been distributed. But there has been a distinct lack of interest in the initial conditions of the structure. But instead almost 23 years have gone by without lots of “experts” not discussing some obvious details. Instead lots of non-experts have spent years yelling at each other. I find the lack of mention of the Conversation of Momentum particularly interesting. ÷÷÷###########÷÷÷÷÷÷÷ Sorry guys, I banned the troll. I’m going to ask @Miller to close this thread as it is attracting nutters and 9/11 CT crap is not actually suppose to be discussed any more on the board. I’m surprised no one flagged @umbrarchist. ÷÷÷###########÷÷÷÷÷÷÷

Two people on Destee are giving me a hard time because I have not seen the Black Panther movies. I started reading Science Fiction in 4th grade. That is why I decided to go to college for engineering in 7th grade. I am into Hard Science Fiction however. Realism matters! The following books have a problem because they were written by a White man. I have difficulty trying to imagine a Black man getting them published in '61. So far no Black person has given me an opinion on them. Black Man's Burden (1961) by Mack Reynolds https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/32390 Border, Breed Nor Birth by Mack Reynolds https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/30639 https://sfgospel.typepad.com/sf_gospel/2008/08/mack-reynolds-on-africa-islam-utopia-and-progress.html

You can of course jettison the Christian bullshit. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Souls_(book)

Trusting White people to define and control education is less than smart. If boys are sabotaged before they get to high school remedial work will be excruciating. We need a rational paradigm to justify a common objective, that would not provide a target, like Patrice Lumumba. How to provide that paradigm? *When Africa Awakes* (1920) by Hubert Harrison Harrison worked with Marcus Garvey but was not a fan. *Black Man's Burden* (1961) by Mack Reynolds Both are free on the Internet. *The Tyranny of Words* (1938) by Stuart Chase George Orwell mentioned Chase in an essay on politics. He published the book, *A New Deal* , shortly before FDR's famous speech. He was a member of FDR's brain trust. Getting up to date means cyber technology. *Teach Yourself Electricity and Electronics* by Stan Gibilisco *Python Crash Course* by Eric Matthes But Science Fiction can add perspective to science and make it more fun. My first SF book, Star Surgeon, is free on the Internet. There is lots of free SF on the Internet. Why not suggest free informative reading to kids even if they are not ready for the heavy stuff? *Star Surgeon* by Alan E. Nourse *Black Man's Burden* & *Border, Breed nor Birth* by Mack Reynolds *Omnilingual* by H Beam Piper *The Fourth "R"* by George O. Smith *Space Prison* by Tom Godwin *Little Fuzzy* by H. Beam Piper *The Servant Problem* by Robert F. Young *Deathworld* by Harry Harrison *The Status Civilization* by Robert Sheckley and much more.

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I am an agnostic. I voted against Trump twice. If Trump runs against a pile of dog shit then I am voting for the dog shit.

That pretty much covers it.

Russia, Ukraine, China and US debt are messing with the economic future of this technological planet? Spaceship Earth is a Mess! Believing in ideologies is nonsense. The people who claim to be Capitalists want the workers kept ignorant. Adam Smith: Download Wealth of Nations, it has been in the public domain, and free on the internet, since 2001. Search it for "and account", you will find multiple instances of "read, write and account". Why doesn't the right or the left advocate mandatory accounting/finance in the schools? Karl Marx: Search his major work for 'depreciation'. Marx mentioned depreciation of money and machinery multiple times. He used the word 35 times in his first two volumes. There were no steam trains when Adam Smith died. Marx rode in trains and saw machinery that was modern for his time. But what sophisticated consumer technology was there to depreciate in his day? In the 1930s John Maynard Keynes was writing about a 15-hour work week for grandchildren. That could have been the 1990s. But did Keynes ever see a television commercial for automobiles? When I went to college for Electrical Engineering the term e-waste did not even exist. Today: Planned obsolescence has been going on for decades. What has happened to the DEPRECIATION of durable consumer goods? How many automobiles have Americans trashed since Sputnik? There were 200,000,000 motor vehicles in the US in 1995. Economists: Do not mention NDP, Net Domestic Product. They subtract the depreciation of Capital Goods from GDP like industrial robots and 18-wheel trucks but Joe Blow's car can fall apart and not get noticed. Can economists tell the difference between a banana and an air conditioner? NDP = GDP - Dcap (official economic delusion) NDP = GDP - (Dcap + Dcon) (reality) Dcap == Depreciation of Capital Goods Dcon == Depreciation of Durable Consumer Goods GDP == Grossly Distorted Propaganda I guess intellectuals and pseudo-intellectuals cannot figure out that economists cannot do algebra. Science Fiction: Daemon & Freedom by Daniel Suarez Voyage from Yesteryear by James P Hogan

Intelligence and knowledge and technology are different things. Any moron can shoot machine gun. A couple of White Brits could gun down 100 Black men with spears. No doubt it would make them feel superior. But that does not mean that they could fix the gun if it malfunctioned. This is why people should KNOW Physics!

Destee, LipstickAlley, been lots of places but did not always use that handle. It is about that PHYSICS business. I went to college for Electrical Engineering originally and imagined getting a Master's in EE and a Master's in physics. I woke up instantly on 9/12/2001. I didn't work that week and normally I kind of drift awake. It was like one side of my brain was saying "That's IMPOSSIBLE!!!" and another side was saying "What the Hell are YOU talking about?" When I went to college we could see the Sears Tower being constructed thru the living room window of the fraternity. My white pledge father was a super senior architect. This was Illinois Institute of Technology and almost everybody was doing some kind of STEM. So the destruction of the towers is not just a historical event, conspiracy or not. It was a Physics Defying Historical Event. The only recorded one I know of in HISTORY. It also involves "education" now because an entire generation has been taught that a 200 ton airliner could destroy a 500,000 ton building in less than 2 hours. So since 9/11 Physics has been HISTORY. Should Black people understand physics? You cannot build Wakanda without it.

What I find curious is that the description of the book does not mention Hubert Henry Harrison. The somewhat shocking thing is that I never heard of him until his book, When Africa Awakes, turned up in Project Gutenberg. It almost looks like the Official Negro Intellectuals shoved him under the rug.

I was hired by the Big Blue computer company in the late 70s. It took 3 interviews. So I was waiting alone in an office after the third interview while 4 Field Managers decided my fate. Finally one came in, Pete. But he looked real nervous so I was wondering what the problem was. He says, "You know you will have to shave your beard if you take the job." I just shrugged my shoulders and said, "Money is more important than hair." It was like I flipped a switch and his personality changed. He was all smiles. What did he think I was going to do? Pull out a knife an stab him. Anyway I got sent from Wisconsin to Atlanta for training in February , Party. Saw the Staple Singers in Atlanta. Went back home after 10 weeks. The course was no problem. Then I met Bob. Bob had been off with a bad back when I was hired. He was an Old Time employee of 20+ years in his 50s. He decided to grow a full beard while he was off. Mine had been like Malcolm X's. He got lots of jokes about his beard and I said nothing for 6 months. Then I got 2 weeks off and grew my beard back. The first person I ran into was the branch manager. He did a double take but said nothing. Bob was the only person in the department who made any comment. Maybe they were holding secret meetings. SHShshshss... "Don't say anything to the Black guy about his beard. ROFL

When I was in 6th grade (I think) I got into a conversation with a classmate about the word "Lady". She came across as though she was entitled to the title. So I looked it up in the dictionary later that day. There were lots of definitions like "cleaning lady" and stuff involving European nobility, but the definition that stuck out was: LADY == Sophisticated Woman SOPHISTICATED == Knowledgeable of the Ways of the World So should we have some criteria for Lady qualification or just use the word willy nilly. Of course immediate social conditions may restrict what a man lets out of his mouth.

Greetings, I was recently banned from the StraightDope message board. I got a good laugh out of it. But we are approaching the 23rd anniversary of a world changing event. It was not a Physics Changing event. Neil DeGrasse Tyson sent out a public letter on 9/12/2001 admitting that he lived 4 blocks from Ground Zero and had to leave his home because of the dust. However I am not aware of his discussing the Physics of the Destruction of the Towers since then. Living in New York he should see skyscrapers quite often and being an astrophysicist he should understand some fundamental things about them. How does the steel have to be distributed down a 1430 foot structure (including the 70 ft in the 6 basement levels) support it's weight against gravity and withstand the wind? The Eiffel Tower is 130 years old. Although it scraped the sky for 40 years before the Empire State Building it is not a skyscraper, but its nakedness displays the distribution of support and, no doubt, weight like no building could. However the 10,000 tons of wrought iron in the ET does not have to support twice it's own weight in concrete. Did level 105 of the North Tower of the WTC contain the same amount of steel as the 5th level which had to support the weight of 21 times as many stories? When and where have "experts" discussed the significance of accurate data on the distribution of steel down the Twin Towers in relation to analyzing their destruction? What does this have to do with Black people? Is there Black Physics? Is there White Physics? If there is Physics related to what I call the Twin Towers Affair shouldn't most "educated" and "Intelligent" people be able to understand it, especially in the nation that put men on the Moon. I got called a Troll and Conspiracy Theorist in 3 days on StraightDope. What is going to happen here? The clock is ticking!