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It will be so amusing to fight with all of the women that I refuse to call lady. I probably won't survive.

I could speculate about the cause but that is all it would be, speculation. People with more credentials than me should have done a better analysis of the physics. But that presents another issue. If it can be proven that airliners could not have destroyed the towers then someone, some organization, was responsible for whatever did destroy them. Some powerful organization that does not have the slightest problem with killing people as though they were flies. Who wants to deal with that?

Economic Wargames by Dal Timgar https://www.spectacle.org/1199/wargame.html Letters to The Ethical Spectacle The morality of debt is an interesting topic I hadn't gotten around to writing anything on. Dal Timgar's essay on Economic wargaming is the essay I never got a chance to write--and better, because he has a deeper understanding of the economics. Speaking as someone who is also relentlessly solicited by Providian Bank, and whose Visa bill often arrives bearing a zero minimum payment, I found it fascinating. Like many other articles in the Spectacle, it came in unsolicited. Ben Price, Peter Bearse, Bob Wilson are all people who just sent me an article one day. My commitment is to continue making the Spectacle available as a forum for all points of view. I am highly pleased and flattered by the quality of the submissions I get. Similarly, your email reacting to what you read here keeps life interesting; you can reach me as always at jw@bway.net. My Twentieth Century .

You make it sound like the only thing I was doing for 23 years was concentrating on 9/11. You see physics affects economics. You buy a car and it gets added to GDP. You drive the car and it slowly wears down. That is Physical Depreciation. The car slowly becomes less valuable and will get you less when you try to sell it. That is Financial Depreciation. There is something called Net Domestic Product which economists do not say much about. In 1976 I came to the conclusion that economists cannot do algebra. In 2005 after 9/11 I emailed 500+ economists around the world about this. Most did not respond but someone from the London School of Economics sent back, "What are we supposed to do about it?" There were 200,000,000 motor vehicles in the United States in 1995. Where is the depreciation of all of the consumer junk tracked. You see the Net Domestic Product only subtracts the depreciation of Capital Goods like industrial robots and 18-wheel trucks. When I figured this out in 1976 the world population had just passed 4 billion people. Now we are past 8 billion. So actually I do not consider the destruction of the Twin Towers to be a really Big Deal. I put this on the Internet in February of 1999: Economic Wargames by Dal Timgar https://www.spectacle.org/1199/wargame.html .

And now we have a Repo Crisis. Oh, isn't there a housing crisis? An illegal immigrant crisis? GDP is Grossly Distorted Propaganda Why hasn't Accounting/finance been mandatory in high schools since Sputnik? Are Boomers to blame that it was not? The Baby Boomers were the first generation to be Brainwashed via TeleVision! In 1948 less than 1% of American households had TVs. By 1960 it was nearly 90% and the oldest Boomers were 15. I am a Boomer. One of my earliest memories was sitting on the floor playing with wooden blocks pretending that I had made a television. What society has been more psychologically manipulated electronically than America? "See the U.S.A. in your Chevrolet!" I have Never owned a Chevrolet. I have never owned a new car. Some people have reactionary personalities. Buy stuff to increase GDP so economists can ignore the depreciation. But now Gen-Z has to deal with the results of seven decades of planned obsolescence and economists still do not even acknowledge its existence. What is *NDP* anyway? The Waste Makers (1960) Vance Packard The Screwing of the Average Man (1974) by David Hapgood Don't worry I am just deluded. Books from 20+ years before you were born cannot possibly be worth a damn. Who wrote this: "In the early ages both of the Greek and Roman republics, the other parts of education seem to have consisted in learning to read, write, and account according to the arithmetic of the times."

Now I am confused. What was I not ever clear about? It sounds like you were more interested in my motivation than what I was talking about. Sounds like the first 3 weeks after 9/11.

Hell NO! There was an issue with the aluminum cladding on the towers and the salt air in New York that would cost billions to fix. https://exoptica.typepad.com/blogoptica/2008/07/as-i-mentioned-in-my-earlier-post-july-18-2008-in-1971-i-wasa-design-developmentdraftsmanworking-at-yamasakis-architect.html Then there was the issue of the insurance. https://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/nyregion/27rebuild.html I am not wading through and arguing about all of that humanistic crap when people won't address a simple physics problem. How was the steel distributed down the structures and the human side of that is: Why did it get shipped out of the country so fast?

Something destroyed the buildings. I am reasonably certain that the airliners' impacts and fires could not have done it and have studied reports by people like Frank Greening and Tony Szamboti and more that you have probably never heard of. I find this situation very strange! And before 9/11 would not have even thought it possible. This society must not have been what I thought it was in 2000.

I do not have a degree. The transistors do not care. I originally intended to get a Masters in Electrical Engineering and a Masters in Physics. I dropped out after two years after contemplating punching out some White broad in administration to take a Gap Year. That term did not exist back then. But fixing audio equipment for Panasonic was way more fun than school. School is a lot of BS for the money and controlled by haoles. But we need to overcome this negative stigma about reading. After I started reading Science Fiction books in grade school my mother called it "Something Crazy!" I just stood there looking at her thinking "What does that mean?" It just did not process. Spelling ANTIDISESTABLISHMENTARIANISM for some stupid nuns wasn't Crazy? Teach Yourself Electricity and Electronics by Stan Gibilisco

There is lots of BS in the computer industry and most of that can be tested if you work at it. Religion/Spirituality is much more of a mess. Ever encountered: The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/44073

You could take that for 3 hours? I couldn't. Are you ready for 3 hours of skyscraper physics?

A conspiracy is a group of people cooperating in some activity, presumably nefarious. The Laws of Physics do not care about people. Engineering is applied Physics! This is solving a physics problem to me and I do not even regard it as a particularly difficult one. Does a person need a Degree in Structural Engineering to figure out that Level 5 of a 110 story building must support more weight than Level 105? Doesn't that imply that the amount of steel increased down the Twin Towers. Why is the Eiffel Tower built like that. And yet can anyone find "Experts" demanding or discussing accurate data of that type about those buildings? I would have thought most people would have found that peculiar long ago. I say NO, to being a Conspiracy Theorist, because I don't really care about the perps. But I find indoctrinating an entire generation of people with Delusional Cartoon Physics to be really eFed Up. Try using a search engine on Horizontal Beams in Core of WTC. Didn't they exist. At this point all of the engineering schools in the US are accomplices after the fact. Has anybody watched the two videos? https://psikeyhackr.livejournal.com/1276.html Of course I might be insane and everyone else is NORMAL. Try finding steel distribution data on any skyscraper in the world.

Well I do not know what you are talking about then. Anyone that wants to can use the search mechanism at the top of the page with and without quotes and see what results they get.

I just did the search again. Ethiopian followed by Bible with the words together in quotes only found my post. The pair of words have to be in quotes. Ethiopian Bible Without the quotes gives 1344 hits.

Is that Billy Graham? My mother took me to his pavilion at the New York World's Fair in the summer of 1965. I wanted to go to General Electric or General Motors, General somebody. I had already decided that I was an agnostic. I was thinking "Who gives a damn about Billy Graham?"

I did a search on "Ethiopian Bible" and got Zero hits. The Ethiopians kicked the Jesuits out of the country in 1633. What I do not understand is the lack of awareness of the Ethiopian Bible among Black Americans Christians. Did MLK even know about it? https://discover.hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/ethiopian-bible-why-the-ethiopian-bible-got-banned

That is an assumption which cannot be supported because they cannot talk about the quantity of steel in the core. Steel conducts heat. Welders need torches that reach 3000 degrees because a large piece of steel conducts heat away so fast that the spot to be welded will not get hot enough at low temperatures. Vertical beams in the core could be 36 feet long. Part of a column on one floor could be out of the fire on another floor. Plus those horizontal beams in the core that are constantly disappearing would be conducting heat away as well. [[[[[. The temperature of a welding torch can vary depending on the type of welding process: Oxy-fuel welding: The flame can reach temperatures of around 6,000 °F (3,320 °C), which is enough heat to melt steel. Oxy-fuel gas cutting: The preheat flame can reach temperatures of 4,400–6,000 °F, depending on the fuel gas and the ratio of oxygen to fuel gas. TIG welding: The TIG process can produce temperatures of up to 19,000 °C. ]]]]]]] Why is there never any mention of the amount of steel in the region of fire for the South Tower compared to the North? It was farther down so there should have been more steel but the South Tower came down first even though it was hit later. Overall the North Tower lasted about 45 minutes longer.

The "pancake" splatter is the most hilarious factor in this Twin Towers Affair. This is NIST: NIST's findings do not support the "pancake theory" of collapse, which is premised on a progressive failure of the floor systems in the WTC towers (the composite floor system—that connected the core columns and the perimeter columns—consisted of a grid of steel "trusses" integrated with a concrete slab; see diagram). Instead, the NIST investigation showed conclusively that the failure of the inwardly bowed perimeter columns initiated collapse and that the occurrence of this inward bowing required the sagging floors to remain connected to the columns and pull the columns inwards. Thus, the floors did not fail progressively to cause a pancaking phenomenon. https://www.nist.gov/world-trade-center-investigation/study-faqs/wtc-towers-investigation What is invariably completely missing from all of these discussions is the horizontal beams in the core. You will see 'core' mentioned and 'columns' and 'trusses' that were in the floors outside of the core. But the horizontal beams that held the core columns together invariably disappear. The total length of that steel had to be about 2 1/2 times the length of the vertical steel. Did the thickness of the horizontal steel increase down the building? I would expect that it did but in actuality I DO NOT KNOW. And I am not the only person who has looked. Lon Waters PhD in applied mathematics used to have a website showing the column cross sections all of the way down the building told me that he couldn't find that info. That is why I talk about the tons of steel on each level. The horizontal beams in the core would have to be a significant part of that.

My point is that the event has not been analyzed properly to determine whether or not the airliner impact and fire could cause what we saw. Personally I doubt extremely much that the airliners could do it. Shouldn't "experts" be able to create very accurate simulations of the North Tower? Then raise the top 20 stories 64 feet and drop them. The bottom of the 91st story would impact the top of the 90th level at 64 feet/sec or 43.6 mph. Due to gravitational acceleration being 32 ft/sec**2 the 20 stories would have fallen for 2 seconds. Since 90 and 91 were adjacent levels they would be very similar in weight and strength. So they would crush each other. But that destruction takes energy. The only source of energy is the kinetic energy of the falling mass, so it slows down the upper falling mass. Next levels 89 and 92 interact with the rubble of 90 and 91 in between. But 89 is somewhat heavier and stronger than 92. There is similar destruction but 89 wins by a little bit and the falling mass slows down more. So this scenario has 20 stories beating on 90 stories but while the 90 stories get stronger and heavier all of the way down, the 20 stories get weaker and lighter all of the way up. So why haven't "experts" been talking about the distributions of steel and concrete for two decades? And where are the data to do a simulation after Two Decades? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9iczb3-Zbo Go to 33 seconds to skip the BS intro music.

@aka Contrarian I fail to see what is confusing. The ending was my idea of a joke of course.

OK, where was I? Oh yeah, "shoddy construction"! The buildings still stood for 28 years and had to withstand gravity and the wind. The original specs claim that the buildings were supposed to sway 36 inches at the top in a 150 mph wind. Someone told me on some website that the wind had reached 100 mph on 6 occasions during the life of the buildings. I was never able to find that information however. Ha, I can ask ChatGPT: ÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷ For example: 1. **Hurricane Floyd (1999):** Brought strong winds to New York City, although the exact wind speeds at the height of the Twin Towers are not specifically recorded. 2. **Nor'easters:** These powerful storms, common in the northeastern United States, can produce very high winds, especially at higher elevations like those of the Twin Towers. 3. **Hurricane Gloria (1985):** Another strong storm that passed close enough to New York City to produce high winds. Engineers designed the Twin Towers to withstand wind speeds of up to 150 mph, anticipating that such conditions might occur during their lifespan. ÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷ The force of the wind applied to the Towers would be greater than that of an airliner, the difference would be one of concentration in a small area. In 1991 tests were conducted with accelerometers at the tops of the towers. I presume that synchronized motion and wind data they could do strength calculations on the towers looking for weaknesses. This was reported in the NCSTAR1 by the NIST but only that it was done. So how does "shoddy construction" construction take that for 28 years. And there was a fire in the 70s and a bomb in '93. On 9/11 there was a digital camera pointed towards the South Tower catching at the 70th floor. I presume that it was pointed at the top of the North Tower and happened to catch the South Tower at the moment of impact. The building deflected 12 inches at the 70th floor even though the plane impacted at the 81st floor. It should have deflected 14 to 15 inches there. The building then oscillated for four minutes after impact getting progressively smaller exhibiting a behavior known as "damped oscillation". Knowing the mass and velocity of the plane I would think that NIST could have extracted some information about the condition of the building from analyzing the motion. But they did not say anything further about it. This was the motivation for the second video called the Mass Impact Test. The collapse of the South Tower presents some different issues than the North. It was hit second an yet came down first. It was hit lower down than the North Tower, at level 81 instead of 94. Also the South Tower impact did not go directly into the core. The fuselage of the aircraft scraped the corner of the core and went into the open office area and exploded. That is why so many pictures show a huge fireball outside of the building. This resulted in less damage to the core and an intact stairwell by which a few people who were above the impact zone escaped. Since the 81st level had to support more weight it should have contained more steel than the impact region of WTC1. That combined with sustaining less damage due to the airliner trajectory, how can the earlier collapse of WTC2 be explained? More steel should have taken longer to heat up to the point of weakening. Firemen reached the 78th floor of the South Tower of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, and at 9:52 a m. sent out the message: "Battalion Seven...Ladder 15, we've got two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines. 78th floor numerous 10-45 Code Ones (victims)." It was Battalion Chief Orio Palmer of the New York City Fire Department (FDNY) on the radio. He and Fire Marshal Ronald Bucca managed to reach the impact zone before the tower collapsed at 9:59 a.m. Palmer's radio message provided crucial information about the situation on the upper floors. How could "two isolated pockets of fire" cause what happened Seven Minutes later? Was someone else monitoring the Fire Department's radio communications and concluded that putting the fires out could not be allowed, so they took 7 minutes to decide to activate their own radio controls? Two Decades go by without discussion of the steel and concrete distributions! Why is the Eiffel Tower shaped like that? Bang, bang, Smash!!! You are under arrest umbrarchist for unauthorized paranoid speculation!

I always wanted to be a Dictator. Trump is my Hero!

I think I turned Green in 6th grade but I didn't figure out that I wasn't Black until I was in my 40s.

I always disliked that UNITY crap. Unity means One but it doesn't explain how to deal with complex multifaceted situations. We need a rational paradigm to justify a common objective, that would not provide a target, like Patrice Lumumba. How to provide that paradigm? *When Africa Awakes* (1920) by Hubert Harrison Harrison worked with Marcus Garvey but was not a fan. *The Tyranny of Words* (1938) by Stuart Chase George Orwell mentioned Chase in an essay on politics. He published the book, *A New Deal* , shortly before FDR's famous speech. He was a member of FDR's brain trust. Getting up to date means cyber technology. *Teach Yourself Electricity and Electronics* by Stan Gibilisco *Python Crash Course* by Eric Matthes

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