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What did you think of X-files??? I find "Ancient Astronaut" very interesting and somewhat informative.....Bradley, Sitchen and Daniken had Already sold me on the idea - the whole idea was initially introduced to me by Lobsang Rampa True... You do....believe Great book.. What does the writing that goes or comes with the "flying salsa" say it is? Very reasonable assumptions?? We may not have much proof but we do have a lot of Evidence.....especially eyewitness - though they may not reach the threshold of scientific reliability. Yeah .....you are doubting thomas. No..... they may have just chose to live in the ociean now a days. I do not think they would be very intelligent if they did what you expected. They are....plenty of witness True....because there is a lot more out there than we know. Some do it for money some do it out of love....what matters is if the information is a true reflection of reality.

Yes....but in this case the dinosaurs bones are proof that these creatures existed Chimeras are currently a major ethnically scientific topic...they are real on the level of organs just not as yet as or having appendages.. So we are witnessing the re-emergence. I believe because it makes sense......Knowledge Science and Nature knows no bounds True....that does not always means it is not or was not real? Our imagination is Science and Nature....Limitless What consumption of substance ...... You do not consume herbs? The Natural Herbs is for the healing of the nation

True True For Scientific establishments it has not yet been accepted....They demand more test evidence and confirmation To scientists in the field it is already proof. The Ancients single out the heart as the most important organ in the body....their wisdom is not yet known by scientists - but they found a brain in the heart This brain in the heart is talking to the brain in skull 9 times more than the brain is talking to the heart... The question then arises who is the boss.....Which one is giving directives cool cool

Then why are you surprise by the stance he takes?? If the evidence you provided is similar to the one you provided in this thread...then I know why it is not convincing. Maybe you should try finding a scientific study on race specifically....that supports your point or opinion. Ok...I thought we had this discussion before If I find it....it will not be as convincing as when you find it yourself..... Yes I did....this opinion was directly influence by James Baldwin and Tim Wise - I adapted it to fit our discussion James Baldwin whiteness as a state of mind. Tim Wise Part 3 - The History of Whiteness True....they do overlap - Intersectionality This is a real life example being used to refute the idea that you have to be a different sex(male vs female) to be hated as in sexism Males hate males who engage in certain type of sex....where they play the role of a woman What it shows is that you do not have to be a different sex to be hated because of your sex...as faux female are.

That is to be seen or realized... Here is a engraving over 5000 yrs old with men hold fast to capture creatures resemble dinosuars.. https://historicaleve.com/what-does-the-palette-of-narmer-reveal/

Yes it is evidence... To the Ancients the heart was more important than the brain Modern science is now questioning who is giving orders to who in the human body....is it the heart or the brain? Every cell and organ is conscious.....according Ancients Knowledge The whole phenomena of Cellular memory is a result of Transplantation technology . Yes...not just the cell - down to the molecules Your comment above takes it one step further.....physicist may call quantum entanglement. Look I cannot make it any clearer with out coming off as being condescending....Which you may interpete as an insult.

Did you know that prior to this thread....that he had that opinion on race? You also knew that I shared that opinion on race? Hindu scriptures... Is this the quote: "Both Blacks and Whites did not know they were Black or White till they Arrive in the West...and became Aware of the 'Ideology of Racism that governs Western Society." The difference is Singular Historical Experience - Transatlantic/Triangular Slave Trade/Route and its effects and purposes." Politicians come in all skin colors and features with various backgrounds....not sharing all the same ancestory and most definitely not based in genetics or biology Good....even with christianity and Islam - they war with each other though they are of the same religion. It is based on sex....your own difinition just admitted to it

I like the fact that you said "yet"..... You never know....never say never..

Ok....I stand corrected. I do not thinks so... I think he is expressing his own opinion... Cool...so you want him to go against his own opinion? I think they are unwarranted. Is it possible he Could think or believe he is being fair and unbiased? The Bible is one scripture.....every religion and culture have their scriptures - I find value in them all. Please post and link quote. Yes..... Just as how the definition of race also told you that politicians are a race. Yes....hence it is socially constructed. it has no basis in genetics or biology.. No.....your point was "You can't practice religious intolerance if only one religion exists." They are of the same religion yet the war on each other....so you do not need two religions - to experience "Religious intolerance" You do not need two sexes to practice intolerance against against sex.... "You can't practice sexism, if only one sex exists." Homophobia is intolerance prejudice or discrimination based on sex ...especially same sex....sexism Mysogyny is hatred of women So you ignored the gingers(redheads) persecution....did quite fit in your paradigm.

I do associate the heart with the mind...... If transplantation affects Personality and Behavior....it affects thoughts - be they good or evil.. I need provide no further proof... If you want proof ;look up all the meanings of Personality and behaviour.. No need....

The commendations I think are for posting and participating.....not as to whether or not your opinions are true accurate or good Again ask some one who judgement you trust ask them to read the thread....refrain from telling them who you are Then ask that person who is making sense and why and what points are salient and relevant. You are not making good points....stick to live conversation where no scientific proof is required or can be confirmed. Pre internet and we were having this discussion....you would be making great points to all within ear shot and you would be lauded. I on the other hand would be left saying....I read in a book saw in a magazine or journal, watch a documentary about it. Ok Of course these are question that Troy should address...in the meantime I will ask you a few question. So you are asking him to play....Judge? or are you asking that he tries to play fair when he knows you are wrong/inaccurate? What about if Troy does not believe or totally disagree with what you are saying - should he hide or deny his own feelings and opinions? It is my opinion that anyone can participate to the level they want or do not want.. I have not been wrong.....and I am sure Troy will and would if he thought I was wrong That is a historical fact that many europeans historians have stated.... Most Europeans did not know they were white until they came to America....prior to that they thought of themselves in terms of nationals or ethnicities....most having never seeing Africans before coming here. Think about it.... if I keep telling you - your ego will force you to take offense and you will become defensive. So try and figure it out. Ok... The article said the disparities are a result of access.... Yes....so you create races based on natural differences between groups of people...be it cultural religious place of origin etc Gingers(redheads) were persecuted in Europe for yrs. Homophobia is an example of same sex bias prejudice or discrimination. Different christian sects have been fighting and killing each other for yrs.

That is not the sole purpose of the heart... The Heart is also part of the Endocrine System...producing synthesizing and secreting hormones According to the most recent studies....the heart communicates with the brain - more than the brain communicates with the heart Causing many scientist to question which organ is the Lead.. True.... please enjoy Thoughts flow from both the heart and mind/brain The Article already answer that question...a persons thoughts can be deduce and predicted from his personality see below Moreover, the heart's intricate neural network, often referred to as the "heart brain," communicates bidirectionally with the brain and other organs, supporting the concept of heart-brain connection and its role in memory and personality. These cases underscore the complexity of psychological and behavioral changes that may occur post-heart transplant, possibly influenced by the donor's characteristics and experiences [3,10]. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11061817/ None that I know of... But there is a case where in the heart recipient was able to describe the killer of the donor... Calling me a weed head is up to you....as I do smoke cannabis. but it does affect you negatively if I mention your struggles with ignorance and confusion that you admitted to ? When you ignore something....I cannot know that you saw it or took it into consideration. It is a response to what you posted... So look it up and reread what you posted.

True....you are here longer and contribute a lot more than I do So for you it is about Loyalty and payback ......not Truth You are expecting Troy to defend and support you....even when you are wrong? Yes...Race exist as a social construct - especially in racist and former racist societies Race has no genetic basis The science has already shown that race as a result of genetics do not exist.... Race as a result of a social construct does exist..... In the study you provided they are accepting using and dealing with race as a social construct... The study you link provided proof that the disparities in health outcome are a result of Access to treatment intervention tools and insurance etc.....not biology but racism

There is no ambiguity if you read the entire post or article.. Yes....."sudden unusual tastes accompanied by thoughts" In a sense he is experiencing these memories as his own...reliving them so to speak Though the articles spells his out and the whole field of this research leaves no doubt.. Here is the quote "Some heart transplant recipients report experiencing memories that seemingly belong to their donors. These memories manifest as sensory perceptions, occurring during both wakefulness and sleep. For instance, one recipient describes sudden unusual tastes accompanied by thoughts about their donor's identity and life experiences" https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11061817/ Yes....I know that is not true But I restrain myself.... For Some conversation are best left where they are....as they are not edifying or profitable They serve no purpose but to do damage hurt and harm....with no reward beyond selfish pleasure at the expense of another. Unless you choose to continue with this line of ad hominem/personal attacks...then its On See above.... It is something you ignored... Yes....so does the heart. Proverbs 27:7 Cool....

Science is forever pushing the boundaries of whats possible....who knows what new technology will develop in the near and distant future. Of course it is not on par with his proof.....his proof is based in denial and misunderstanding of the use and context of words. I am not trying to prove anything....I am questioning the methodology use to arrive at the conclusion that something is Extinct. According to the same people who say the dinosaurs are extinct....also said the coelacanth was not see for over millions yrs. Great video....very informative Certainly doesn't look extinct....just dead. True true.... Here is an idea about those petrified genes over 100 million years old or more Map the gene sequence and form a virtual gene overlay that on a wiped chicken gene leaving only the structural scaffoldings - and viola T Rex de-extinction. They claim to have done so with the "dire wolf".

Yes...In light of the coelacanth True...we don't as in current Modern World View But in Many Ancient traditions using a different World View....we do. Yes conventional modern knowledge says that humans are very young....on the evolutionary clock I Can't say how long It is True.... The Coelacanth is not proof of dinosaurs....what it is proof of - is that how we arrive at saying something is extinct is flawed. If we know it is flawed....we should then question its other conclusions. Is it possible Dinosaurs could still be here ....I think so - I proffer no prove beyond that which is above. The Coelacanth is believe to be hundred of millions of years older than the cockroaches... No one ever claim the cockroaches were ever extinct... Which ever scientific body it is that tells us what is extinct erred....on the fish How then can we be sure....which of its other conclusions - are not also in error. Could they have erred on the dinosaurs? .....if not - Why not? Well it was going to be....but now that you kabosh that idea.....NO! How do you prove that something Doesn't or no Longer Exist? Didn,t think you would go for that....Ok ok cool - I will take that as a feather in my cap. I thinking how do we know they're not out there??? He certainly did not... My own inspiration from a less entertaining source...but it is entertainment. Yes.....Does De-extinction counts A mean if you brought back something......was it truly ever really extinct? Does it not then remain viable (dormant ) in genetic form? Did they? I not sure the consider lizards as part of the Dinos.....but some consider chickens emu and ostriches of the family Yep....the fish was missing apparently several million yrs? Compared to how long we been looking for Big foot. Whales are still here.... Why Not? I read that a biotech company bought back the "Dire Wolf" of Game of Throne fame....not sure how true it is. Really link me the red wolf story? The Times are perilous Good point I want to know too

I cannot prove that dinosaurs are still around nor Can I tell you where to find a living dinosaur. But I do remember a fish that was said to have gone extinct some 50 million years ago....suddenly showing up in some guys fishing net Then another extinct animal was discovered to be a stable and regular meal for some people in the South East Asia That got me to realize all this stuff about extinct animals is not all that its crack up to be.... First of all Mankind occupies less 1% of the surface land mass of the earth.... The surface land mass takes up approximatly 30% of the earth It is said Mankind has explore almost 85% of the surface land mass of the earth... The oceans make up approximately 70% of the earth....Mankind has explored less than 5% We have not explored or occupied the bowels of the earth or depths of the oceans combined beyond 5%....and that's being extremely magnanimous. Lastly two points.... What is meant by explore....if I get up one morning at daybreak and walk down fifth ave in Manhattan from stem to stern and turn in before night fall i can now claim I have explored manhattan...Of course A professional explore would do a more detail walk and now what to look for. My point is an explorer is going to miss a whole lot of detail Cicadas sleep for 7yrs wake up fcup and go back to sleep I lived in NYC Westchester area for upwards of twenty yrs....My neighbor had a family of wild foxes living under his shed for according to him 5 yrs when he told me about them there was no fence between our homes and i saw his shed every morning evening and night I never once saw them..After he inform me I did begin to see them. Now of course I was not looking for them but if anyone had ask me before that I would have said foxes do not live in my neck of the woods. So because we do not see than....does not mean they are not out there - thats my point

I printed and highlighted the word thought for you in the article....I see you choose to ignore it If you do not read....then I now know why you struggle with ignorance Yes...i can see why you would say that - you feeling frustrated Dude you already admitted that "that Tolerance has limits" we need go no further If you cannot see the relationship between Thoughts Personality and Behavior... I cannot do all the work for you....at some point you must use your own brain You being schooled....if only you would allow yourself to learn Yes it is a part of the Circulatory system....I am not denying that - I agree but It is also a part of the endocrine system that is responsible for hormone production.... The Heart also produces Hormones Hormones affect Mood Feelings and Behavior.

Not to worry i will for you... What if you don't make a good point....should they still acknowledge as a good point??? Race only exist as a social construct Dude....you presented a study on breast cancer as proof that races as biology and genetics is real and true. I presented with a study on Race...."Race and genetics versus ‘race’ in genetics" If we get a group of lawyers and another group of mechanics and do a breast cancer study on the disparities between the two.....How you going to arrive at the fact that lawyers and mechanics have different set of genes and or biology To figure that out you have to do a genetic or biological study. Lastly I recommend you find some who is erudite that you trust go to them and ask them to read the part of the thread dealing with Race and tell you who is making sense and who is talking crap....please keep it anonymous as to who you are Yes....I do Everything we know today is built on the foundation laid down by our Ancestors.

shots fired!?!? Start the thread then

@Pioneer1 you cracking me up….are you calling foul????? Cool Whatever reason or excuse you want to use…. Whenever you are ready to resume…… Hopefully I am still around… I enjoy our discussion And I also enjoy @Troy and @ProfD participation. Okay just to be clear I am not religious… I do respect Scriptures….as a source of Ancient Knowledge. The bible is Not the Only Scripture. The Earth is much older than 6000 yr old Man and Dinosaurs coexisted on earth in the distant past…..for that matter some dinosaurs might still be here. I think he said. “I am a flat earther”…..if that is the case it explains a lot

As a matter of fact the article did..... The part I quoted mention memory and personality...both personality and memory has to do with Thoughts.. Personality speaks to the character of the individual ....whether they be good or bad Memories are composed of Thoughts and Images Some heart transplant recipients report experiencing memories that seemingly belong to their donors. These memories manifest as sensory perceptions, occurring during both wakefulness and sleep. For instance, one recipient describes sudden unusual tastes accompanied by thoughts about their donor's identity and life experiences https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11061817/ What you feel you are experienencing Information overload? or Your world view being challenge is overwhelming? Inflicting or causing pain on yourself or another is intolerable. Thank you.... Thank you But the heart is more than a muscle or muscle memory.... Muscle memory is memory or movement procedure with little or no conscious thought... The Thought and Memory of the heart However are both Conscious and Unconscious. It clearly states Personality and Memory.... Look up Personality and Memory? Post your text and link Because the heartt was more important. The scripture I post said in part... I am Paraphrasing here: What goes into someone’s mouth(stomach) does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth(heart), that is what defiles them Yes.... Cellular Memory No....it is not It is also apart of endocrine system.... Science is doing that.....not me.

Wrong..... A lot has changed and is changing..... The heart is no longer consider just a pump by many scientists in the fields of Organ Transplantation and Neuroscience....That is new This is the process of "updating"....the change is happening now.

These are Scientists publishing their work in a Scientific Publication....Adding their names to it and Accreditations. This is how the process of scientific review and research is done The definition of the heart will not change....just adjusted to say it has and acts like a mini brain or some other scientific sounding synonym - Mini brain just is too simple and pedestrian.

Yes.... It is very apparent he is struggling with an Internal Conflict...Rooted in Confusion - Involving word Meaning Usage and Context. There is no shame in that LOL Your diagnosis and prognosis is a spot on.. It would not surprise me....