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That is not the sole purpose of the heart... The Heart is also part of the Endocrine System...producing synthesizing and secreting hormones According to the most recent studies....the heart communicates with the brain - more than the brain communicates with the heart Causing many scientist to question which organ is the Lead.. True.... please enjoy Thoughts flow from both the heart and mind/brain The Article already answer that question...a persons thoughts can be deduce and predicted from his personality see below Moreover, the heart's intricate neural network, often referred to as the "heart brain," communicates bidirectionally with the brain and other organs, supporting the concept of heart-brain connection and its role in memory and personality. These cases underscore the complexity of psychological and behavioral changes that may occur post-heart transplant, possibly influenced by the donor's characteristics and experiences [3,10]. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11061817/ None that I know of... But there is a case where in the heart recipient was able to describe the killer of the donor... Calling me a weed head is up to you....as I do smoke cannabis. but it does affect you negatively if I mention your struggles with ignorance and confusion that you admitted to ? When you ignore something....I cannot know that you saw it or took it into consideration. It is a response to what you posted... So look it up and reread what you posted.

True....you are here longer and contribute a lot more than I do So for you it is about Loyalty and payback ......not Truth You are expecting Troy to defend and support you....even when you are wrong? Yes...Race exist as a social construct - especially in racist and former racist societies Race has no genetic basis The science has already shown that race as a result of genetics do not exist.... Race as a result of a social construct does exist..... In the study you provided they are accepting using and dealing with race as a social construct... The study you link provided proof that the disparities in health outcome are a result of Access to treatment intervention tools and insurance etc.....not biology but racism

There is no ambiguity if you read the entire post or article.. Yes....."sudden unusual tastes accompanied by thoughts" In a sense he is experiencing these memories as his own...reliving them so to speak Though the articles spells his out and the whole field of this research leaves no doubt.. Here is the quote "Some heart transplant recipients report experiencing memories that seemingly belong to their donors. These memories manifest as sensory perceptions, occurring during both wakefulness and sleep. For instance, one recipient describes sudden unusual tastes accompanied by thoughts about their donor's identity and life experiences" https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11061817/ Yes....I know that is not true But I restrain myself.... For Some conversation are best left where they are....as they are not edifying or profitable They serve no purpose but to do damage hurt and harm....with no reward beyond selfish pleasure at the expense of another. Unless you choose to continue with this line of ad hominem/personal attacks...then its On See above.... It is something you ignored... Yes....so does the heart. Proverbs 27:7 Cool....

Science is forever pushing the boundaries of whats possible....who knows what new technology will develop in the near and distant future. Of course it is not on par with his proof.....his proof is based in denial and misunderstanding of the use and context of words. I am not trying to prove anything....I am questioning the methodology use to arrive at the conclusion that something is Extinct. According to the same people who say the dinosaurs are extinct....also said the coelacanth was not see for over millions yrs. Great video....very informative Certainly doesn't look extinct....just dead. True true.... Here is an idea about those petrified genes over 100 million years old or more Map the gene sequence and form a virtual gene overlay that on a wiped chicken gene leaving only the structural scaffoldings - and viola T Rex de-extinction. They claim to have done so with the "dire wolf".

Yes...In light of the coelacanth True...we don't as in current Modern World View But in Many Ancient traditions using a different World View....we do. Yes conventional modern knowledge says that humans are very young....on the evolutionary clock I Can't say how long It is True.... The Coelacanth is not proof of dinosaurs....what it is proof of - is that how we arrive at saying something is extinct is flawed. If we know it is flawed....we should then question its other conclusions. Is it possible Dinosaurs could still be here ....I think so - I proffer no prove beyond that which is above. The Coelacanth is believe to be hundred of millions of years older than the cockroaches... No one ever claim the cockroaches were ever extinct... Which ever scientific body it is that tells us what is extinct erred....on the fish How then can we be sure....which of its other conclusions - are not also in error. Could they have erred on the dinosaurs? .....if not - Why not? Well it was going to be....but now that you kabosh that idea.....NO! How do you prove that something Doesn't or no Longer Exist? Didn,t think you would go for that....Ok ok cool - I will take that as a feather in my cap. I thinking how do we know they're not out there??? He certainly did not... My own inspiration from a less entertaining source...but it is entertainment. Yes.....Does De-extinction counts A mean if you brought back something......was it truly ever really extinct? Does it not then remain viable (dormant ) in genetic form? Did they? I not sure the consider lizards as part of the Dinos.....but some consider chickens emu and ostriches of the family Yep....the fish was missing apparently several million yrs? Compared to how long we been looking for Big foot. Whales are still here.... Why Not? I read that a biotech company bought back the "Dire Wolf" of Game of Throne fame....not sure how true it is. Really link me the red wolf story? The Times are perilous Good point I want to know too

I cannot prove that dinosaurs are still around nor Can I tell you where to find a living dinosaur. But I do remember a fish that was said to have gone extinct some 50 million years ago....suddenly showing up in some guys fishing net Then another extinct animal was discovered to be a stable and regular meal for some people in the South East Asia That got me to realize all this stuff about extinct animals is not all that its crack up to be.... First of all Mankind occupies less 1% of the surface land mass of the earth.... The surface land mass takes up approximatly 30% of the earth It is said Mankind has explore almost 85% of the surface land mass of the earth... The oceans make up approximately 70% of the earth....Mankind has explored less than 5% We have not explored or occupied the bowels of the earth or depths of the oceans combined beyond 5%....and that's being extremely magnanimous. Lastly two points.... What is meant by explore....if I get up one morning at daybreak and walk down fifth ave in Manhattan from stem to stern and turn in before night fall i can now claim I have explored manhattan...Of course A professional explore would do a more detail walk and now what to look for. My point is an explorer is going to miss a whole lot of detail Cicadas sleep for 7yrs wake up fcup and go back to sleep I lived in NYC Westchester area for upwards of twenty yrs....My neighbor had a family of wild foxes living under his shed for according to him 5 yrs when he told me about them there was no fence between our homes and i saw his shed every morning evening and night I never once saw them..After he inform me I did begin to see them. Now of course I was not looking for them but if anyone had ask me before that I would have said foxes do not live in my neck of the woods. So because we do not see than....does not mean they are not out there - thats my point

I printed and highlighted the word thought for you in the article....I see you choose to ignore it If you do not read....then I now know why you struggle with ignorance Yes...i can see why you would say that - you feeling frustrated Dude you already admitted that "that Tolerance has limits" we need go no further If you cannot see the relationship between Thoughts Personality and Behavior... I cannot do all the work for you....at some point you must use your own brain You being schooled....if only you would allow yourself to learn Yes it is a part of the Circulatory system....I am not denying that - I agree but It is also a part of the endocrine system that is responsible for hormone production.... The Heart also produces Hormones Hormones affect Mood Feelings and Behavior.

Not to worry i will for you... What if you don't make a good point....should they still acknowledge as a good point??? Race only exist as a social construct Dude....you presented a study on breast cancer as proof that races as biology and genetics is real and true. I presented with a study on Race...."Race and genetics versus ‘race’ in genetics" If we get a group of lawyers and another group of mechanics and do a breast cancer study on the disparities between the two.....How you going to arrive at the fact that lawyers and mechanics have different set of genes and or biology To figure that out you have to do a genetic or biological study. Lastly I recommend you find some who is erudite that you trust go to them and ask them to read the part of the thread dealing with Race and tell you who is making sense and who is talking crap....please keep it anonymous as to who you are Yes....I do Everything we know today is built on the foundation laid down by our Ancestors.

shots fired!?!? Start the thread then

@Pioneer1 you cracking me up….are you calling foul????? Cool Whatever reason or excuse you want to use…. Whenever you are ready to resume…… Hopefully I am still around… I enjoy our discussion And I also enjoy @Troy and @ProfD participation. Okay just to be clear I am not religious… I do respect Scriptures….as a source of Ancient Knowledge. The bible is Not the Only Scripture. The Earth is much older than 6000 yr old Man and Dinosaurs coexisted on earth in the distant past…..for that matter some dinosaurs might still be here. I think he said. “I am a flat earther”…..if that is the case it explains a lot

As a matter of fact the article did..... The part I quoted mention memory and personality...both personality and memory has to do with Thoughts.. Personality speaks to the character of the individual ....whether they be good or bad Memories are composed of Thoughts and Images Some heart transplant recipients report experiencing memories that seemingly belong to their donors. These memories manifest as sensory perceptions, occurring during both wakefulness and sleep. For instance, one recipient describes sudden unusual tastes accompanied by thoughts about their donor's identity and life experiences https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11061817/ What you feel you are experienencing Information overload? or Your world view being challenge is overwhelming? Inflicting or causing pain on yourself or another is intolerable. Thank you.... Thank you But the heart is more than a muscle or muscle memory.... Muscle memory is memory or movement procedure with little or no conscious thought... The Thought and Memory of the heart However are both Conscious and Unconscious. It clearly states Personality and Memory.... Look up Personality and Memory? Post your text and link Because the heartt was more important. The scripture I post said in part... I am Paraphrasing here: What goes into someone’s mouth(stomach) does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth(heart), that is what defiles them Yes.... Cellular Memory No....it is not It is also apart of endocrine system.... Science is doing that.....not me.

Wrong..... A lot has changed and is changing..... The heart is no longer consider just a pump by many scientists in the fields of Organ Transplantation and Neuroscience....That is new This is the process of "updating"....the change is happening now.

These are Scientists publishing their work in a Scientific Publication....Adding their names to it and Accreditations. This is how the process of scientific review and research is done The definition of the heart will not change....just adjusted to say it has and acts like a mini brain or some other scientific sounding synonym - Mini brain just is too simple and pedestrian.

Yes.... It is very apparent he is struggling with an Internal Conflict...Rooted in Confusion - Involving word Meaning Usage and Context. There is no shame in that LOL Your diagnosis and prognosis is a spot on.. It would not surprise me....

Forgive me for the following....time The idea of heart having a brain is not new ....in the seventies I first read about it and never came back till the 90's when they found a brain in the stomach(gut) then Candace Pert did a full break down of the whole thing in a book finally Russell Targ and David Bohm got a big grant to study it and where on the cutting edge then all went silent when I have time i will link some scientific papers......HeartMath institute also got grants for this study.

So are you saying the study is wrong and misleading?

It does.... Leaving you no hiding place... you can run....now you closinging your eyes Try as you might....to confuse the issue You only confusing yourself....in away that is willfull ignorance - I understand it is a personal struggle of yours.. The above makes no sense....whatsoever. Cool then see you next time when you have better arguments and at least a shred of scientific evidence for Races as a genetic reality There is One geneitic human race.... All other idea about races or race is social constructed. Prove it provide a link and post the relevant part... No they are of African descent....we are of the same human family. True....those of us who are racist tend to base treatment on skin color. He continues even now with lies... You so confused

Science seems to disagree and is aligning with ancient knowledge.... Did you read the link I provided? You are causing pain damage and harm....thats intolerable. So are you now saying..... tolerance has limits You both late....the heart is now known to have a rolein both memory and personality You both being schooled today. it does not have to ...it states that it has a role in personality and memory. Personality dictates who you arr and what you think and do

Did you see the link I provided.....which says it has a role in memory and personality? Thats not just me saying it....thats a scientific study .

I know what it means.. Just not sure if you do.... The socially constructed racial categorizations can be broken down to how ever society dictates... None of that will change the genetic truth...that there is only One Race - The Human Race. Science does not acknowledge race... Racist societies do acknowledge race.... whatever that means No.....it did not. Racism came from the fact that.... Rich (Land Owning)Europeans did not want Poor and Indentured Europeans and Enslaved Africans rebeling together did I say all Ice cream taste the same???? I think @Pioneer1 is incapable of being honest around race and racial issues... Which strikes me as a problem only certain types of people have.... Whites Self hating Africans.... Republicans...esp Maga/gots

I brought it up because it is relevant "The field of organ transplantation, particularly heart transplantation, has brought to light interesting phenomena challenging traditional understandings of memory, identity, and consciousness. Studies indicate that heart transplant recipients may exhibit preferences, emotions, and memories resembling those of the donors, suggesting a form of memory storage within the transplanted organ. Mechanisms proposed for this memory transfer include cellular memory, epigenetic modifications, and energetic interactions. Moreover, the heart's intricate neural network, often referred to as the "heart brain," communicates bidirectionally with the brain and other organs, supporting the concept of heart-brain connection and its role in memory and personality." https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11061817/ The needle used to administer the anesthesia...will cause pain Whether they agree or not does not stop the harm and the pain that will ensue It is always is... The protocol is to mininize the damage done so it doesn't worsen. The decision to and immediate effect is what makes it intolerant

none... No one need wait Not yet....but if it has a mini brain it may well be proven true The tooth is a part of the body...the insult is to the body the patient feels the pain and is the one harmed...intolerance if its violent and causes pain and harm....then it is. Cutting is primitive and barbaric....it causes bleeding and exposes the internal flesh to harm/infection The act is intolerant

You have yet to tell me what distinguishable means? society can have as many races as they want...all of them being social constructs it does...it demonstrates that the disparities you see is not cause by race....but by access to treatment.. Race is not the cause It does....They used race as a means of classification and found that the divergence was not based in or on the biology of race.....but in the social construction and stratification of society in terms of access to care. Yes...as a social construct Yes....as a social construct Your link is not a support of race is biology...if any thing it is a support of racism has medical effects on its victims The belief of race as a biological concept with human populations having a distinct biological basis is unconsciously embedded in many individuals’ thinking (Lee, et al., 2021). These individuals think population differences in health and intelligence are the result of immutable, biologically based differences between ‘racial’ groups, despite overwhelming evidence that racial groups are not genetically discrete, reliably measured or scientifically meaningful (Smedley & Smedley, 2005). Because racial groups are not genetically discrete, when the term ‘race’ is discussed, we are referring to the self‐identified races (socio‐cultural constructs)—and not race as a biological entity...... The misunderstanding of race as biology is not limited to the United States as this has been documented globally...... "Misunderstanding of race as biology may be due, in part, to the observation that race is often operationalized as a biological concept in some medical school's teaching, and some existing educational materials may reinforce institutional racism within medical education (Johnson et al., 2017; Tsai et al., 2016). An analysis of a question bank for Step 1 of the United States Medical Licensing Examination revealed questions that contained racially biased information (Ripp & Braun, 2017). Similarly, a review of lecture slides at a major medical school demonstrated that race was almost always presented as a biological risk factor and framed racial health disparities as inherent biological differences (Tsai et al., 2016). A review of case studies from a medical school in the United States revealed a strong racial bias when describing the patient and pathology (Johnson et al., 2017). Thus, reports suggest an implicit bias, discrimination and racism embedded in our medical education curricula (Ansell & McDonald, 2015) which may contribute to the misunderstanding of race as biology. It must also be noted that a substantial number of faculty members surveyed from 12 colleges and universities across the United States reported that racial bias may be affecting student's mental health (Lipson, 2023). Overall, 25% of faculty believe their institution is ‘hostile’ or ‘somewhat hostile’ toward students of colour. A total of 58% of Hispanic or Latinx faculty, 39% of Black or African American faculty, and 24% of Asian or Asian American faculty believe their institution is ‘hostile’ or ‘somewhat hostile’ toward students of colour." https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11291859/

Yes So says modern science.. Ancient knowledge says otherwise... I will not call it false So far modern science is now say that the heart has a mini brain ...so the are going in the direction of ancient knowledge. Emotional knowing is based on understanding of self first....Your semi permanent mind set from which your biases arise and influence the thoughts you entertain and how you think on them....resulting in actions taken and spoken. Patient: The tooth is offensive.....it cause pain and suffering - intolerable Doctor: The tooth is offensive...it must be violently removed and destroyed so he can get paid....intolerable Exactly.. and you hurt that which you can't tolerate The pain and harm resulting from his violent action on the tooth and body...that is wrong. So the dentist uses anesthesia and antibiotics to minimize both pain and harm Yes....its intolerable but sewing up the wound is good Stopping bleeding is good setting bones is good aiding the body to recover is good When learning you are trained how to inflict maximum damage...every act is a reinforcement. How can it be thoughtless....it has only become what is called muscle memory - habit The thought has not lessen it is now embedded Yes...it is routine

Exactly... There is no genetic basis for Races among humans.... When did you give me your source... your personal observation???? Your ability to comprehend and understand is severely lacking so let me quote from your quote post and try to help you understand what you are reading by ask some basic questions. "and racial disparities in access to these interventions, as well as in their effects, probably precipitated the divergence in mortality.2" What does the paper says caused the divergence or disparities? The divergence in mortality is not caused by races but by access to interventions " Black women are more likely than White women to lack health insurance or to have inadequate coverage, which has limited their access to mammography screening and adversely affected therapeutic decision making." According to the paper what led to adverse therapeutic decision? What is meant by Adverse therapeutic decision? "In the 1980s, for example, mammography-screening rates were substantially lower among Black women than among White women, " Why would one group of women experience lower screening rates? What could be the results of lower screening for women suggested by the paper? "the incidence of HR-negative breast cancer decreased among women of all races in the United States, and there was considerable variation in the rate of decline among racial groups and among women of the same race from different geographic regions." If women from the same racial groups are having considerable variation in results what could cause that? In Short the problem is not race but racism. You mean like those two women below belonging to two different races genetically.... Remember The Black Twins With Different Colors? This Is what Happened To Them!