Pioneer1

The reason East African have straighter hair and keener features than Western or Southern Africans isn't because East Indians come from THEM...more likely the other way around.

1. East Africans have more Caucasian ancestry mixed in with them from the Arabs, Assyrians, and Persians who've been coming down there and mixing in for thousands of years.

2. And I can't prove this but I believe that ALL Africans had their origins from the original Black people's who came from East India THROUGH Egypt and began slowly spreading down into the rest of the continent.
So that East Africa region of Ethiopia and Somalia as well as the Nubians of Egypt probably have a higher percentage of the first Africans who were probably more like East Indians when they first started coming into the continent.
But again, I can't prove this theory.

However there is PLENTY of proof that East Africans like Nubians, Somalis, and Ethiopians are far more mixed with Assyrian, Arab, Persian, and other ancestry than other AFricans which clearly explains why so many of them have features more like Cauasians.

giving him.....360 degrees of knowledge, just like Erykah Badu.


Brushwaves

Nicca, Nas and Dr. Michael Eric Dyson did a lecture and were on stage together so what are you talking about?
Infact, Dr. Dyson asked him if he would TEACH A CLASS with him at the university!

By the way Nas is from the Queensbridge projects.
I'm not sure if he was born there though.

Chev

Don't confuse ADAM with ADAMAH.

ADAMAH means "red soil" but ADAM means "to make red".

Both words have the root word "dam" in them because it signifies RED as in BLOOD.
But there are two different Hebrew words.

And as far as my references, all you have to do is look up the word ADAM in Hebrew and it will clearly show you that it means "to be red" or "to make red".

As far as non-Whites being able to turn red and blush.......

OFCOURSE we can now!
Most of us are mixed with Caucasian ancestry and come in all kinds of different colors.
I'm what most considered light skinned and I can get red when angry (I don't blush as much as I did when I was younger because I rarely if ever get embarassed now).

I'm talking about the original dark races that were UNMIXED with Caucasian ancestry and retained there original dark color.

Adam means "reddish man" or "blushing man".....take it or leave it but that's the TRUTH.

And no, don't believe White people came FROM White people but FROM Black people.
Just not African Black people.
I believe they came from East Indian Black people or the Dravidians now mostly found in Southern India.

Troy

Yeah, I do see the contradiction.
He also went hard against Umar Johnson and many other AfroAmerican men in public.
But his overall point was well noted.

And ofcourse other races of men criticize eachother publicly TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, but for the most part they also know when to stop and how to keep it from going too far.  When they don't, it leads to war. 
All ethnic groups share the same basic social behaviors but the DEGREE to which those behaviors are practices is what distinguishes some groups from others.

Going back to the beginning of this nation I'm sure there were some White boys in school who took pleasure in insulting eachother and talking about eachother's mothers....but they didn't turn it into a CULTURAL STAPLE with it's own name (the dozens) like Black boys did.
Just like there are some good White basketball players, but not nearly as many as there are Black.

I agree with you that we as AfroAmericans need to be MORE critical of ourselves. I just don't believe we should be doing it infront of other racial and ethnic groups who may see it as an opportunity to manipulate those ctiticizms and exaggerate them in a way to take advantage of and further exploit our people.

That's why Cointelpro was so successful in taking down many of the civil rights organizations of he 60s.
Black leaders would come on television and radio openly criticizing eachother and exposing their differences and the agents who sought to destroy them were able to exaggerate and exploiting those differences.

If I have a problem with you or how you're running your business I'm not going to get on youtube or ESPN and tell the whole world I think you're a cheap bum who sleeps with other men's wives. I'm going to go directly to you and either try to work it out in private or go our seperate ways.
 

Harvey's case has not played out yet. Lets see what happens when it has been fully adjudicated; then maybe you'll have a point

Well.
As long as we're ignoring the here and now and focusing on what justice MAY come in the future......

George Zimmerman isn't in jail right now, but maybe he'll eventually go.

Trump isn't finished with his term yet, maybe he'll change his speech and behavior.

Catholic priests HAVE and probably STILL ARE molesting boys, but maybe ONE DAY they will stop.

We can certainly hope for the best.

9 hours ago, Troy said:

Will you two love birds just get a room LOL!

Cynique ALREADY has a room.

And it's padded

And obviously has problems staying locked...lol.

Cynique

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i don't know how Pioneer would act were he in Trump's position

 

Well,  let me put it this way........

Everyone else can relax, but YOU better leave the country, lol.
 

If you eat the proper foods, you're paying your genes (and the rest of your body) a nice comPLIment.

You're telling them how wonderful they are and how much you love and admire them, lol.
 

Your argument that "Caucasian women who unconditionally stand by and stick by each other even against their own best interests" doesn't hold water because it doesn't take into consideration the 47 percent of white women who did vote for her

47% is STILL less than 53% and it was the majority of White women who actually gave him enough popular votes to win the electoral votes.
Like I said, it was less about wealth and priviledge and more about racial solidarity.
 

and you are also ignorant in regard to whether or not maintaining their financial interests and lowering their taxes were the reasons certain white women voted against Hillary.

And YOU are ignorant in regard to what I actually believe.
You obvioulsy ASSume that the only thing people know or believe is what they say or post for the moment.
I guess if a man didn't explicitly say he got up and had breakfast and drove to work today you would ASSUME that he was hungry and unemployed, lol.

9 hours ago, Cynique said:

Get real.  You can tell a lot about a man's sexuality by his personality and you could never be anything but a misfiring dud in bed. You are fantasizing about a song that has nothing to do with you.  Go somewhere and inflate your blow-up doll, Skinny Bones.  

....think what you want.



 

On ‎9‎/‎27‎/‎2018 at 11:33 PM, Cynique said:

@Pioneer1  i sympathize with whomever you temporarily hooked up with.  Must've been stomach-turning experience for her.  

If you called up any one of them they'll tell you just like Whitney Houston used to sang.....

"He gives me love........he's all that man that I need"

My girl Whitney said:


 

I'm not sure how this became a focus on Australian Aboriginees with blonde hair.

I just asked Chev a simple question about them based on her earlier statements and all of a sudden whether or not Aboriginees are "human", tennis players, and how much I love Black unity becomes the main topics......lol.

You all can discuss that among yourselves....I'm focused on what I'm focused on.


 

Chev

You speak 'as a matter of fact', but if you give references, then maybe I can debate better. In reference to 'Adam' and his son Cain; this would be a contradiction due to the Y-DNA GENOME research that shows all MALES today stem from the AFRICAN MAN. How then could Adam be white?

Yes
The very WORD "Adam" means to turn red (or blush) in Hebrew!

"This is the Hebrew word for "man". It could be ultimately derived from Hebrew אדם ('adam) meaning "to be red", referring to the ruddy colour of human skin, or from Akkadian adamu meaning "to make".

https://www.behindthename.com/name/adam

Black and Brown people generally don't turn red and blush, only those who are of a white or light complexion do.

Both Adam and EDOM which also means red comes from the same Hebrew root word "dam" which means blood.


The children of Adam are the children of Caucasians.

African history goes back thousands if not millions of years, but Adam was written about less than 6000 years ago according to nearly all the scholars.

This is because Adam was not an African.
Our people were BEFORE Adam or known as "pre-adamites".
 

Chev

No, I absolutely do NOT agree with this statement. Can you provide some references to the term "Yacub" dated 6,000 years ago [ie. 4000 BC] in which was the beginning of the White Suprecacist movement?

I don't have any references to support it.
You may have to contact a Nation of Islam Minister or some members in your area of you have any and perhaps they may have some.

The reason I find some legitimacy in this concept is based on a number of historical events like:

- the Caucasians "aryans" who invade the Black Indus Valley region about 4000 years ago attacking and enslaving the inhabitants and instituting a racist caste system

-the Caucasian "semites" and Persians who invaded the middle east/Arabian penninsula around the same time attacking and enslaving the original Black populations there too.

This all happened around similar time periods from violent tribes from the north who appear to have come from the Caucasus mountain regions

stated that the White Supremacy MOvement started long before 4000 BC! The now EXTINCT Homonids prior to the Neanderthals existed for thousands of years before even the Neanderthals are dated to exist, based on the Smithsonian. ~ 500,000 years ago.

Is there any proof or strong evidence that the Caucasian/White race is even older than 7000 years old let alone 500,000??




You need to go a little farther back to about 400 years on the slave yard where this kind of behavior was rewarded.

Neither you nor I are old enough to witness what went on 200 or 300 years ago to verify the behavior of our people at that time. But based on our conversations I'm going to assume you are old enough to remember the 90s so you KNOW the behavior of many of our people for the past couple of generations based on personal eye witnessing it.

So I can't claim that the violence, drug use, and other forms of foolishness STARTED in slavery any more than I can claim the broken dysfunctional families started there.

I'm trying to follow and understand what you're saying about hominids and neanderthals. So you're saying that there was some sort of "violent gene" introduced into humanity to produce very violent males or Black males?

I'm trying to narrow down and nail down exactly what you're saying regarding this matter because it's confusing to me.

I guess then, you believe that the White Modern Man with the anthropology that we express today, did not come from THE AFRICAN MAN?

And, the White Europeans originated separately from the African man and never we in Africa?

They began in Europe?

No, I believe that Caucasians indeed DID come from Black people but not AFRICANS.

There are 2 "Black races":
1. African Blacks with the kinky hair, short noses, thick lips, ect
2. Indian Blacks from India with the straight hair, thin noses, thin lips, ect..

Because of their features, I don't believe Caucasians came from African Blacks but from Indian Blacks.

I appreciate the video too and I can understand why ti would be good to have 'a code'. In theory, it would be good, but do you believe @Pioneer1 that 'all African Americans would conform?'
 

No.
You won't get "all" AfroAmericans to do ANYTHING.....lol.

All we need is ENOUGH AfroAmericans.....a "critial mass" if you will...to shift the atmosphere of negativity in our community and make it more positive with positive reinforced behavior.

Well according to the stats over 53% of White women voted for Trump and support him.
As far as I'm concerned he's a monsters THEY created.

This has less to do with privilege and wealth and more to do with Caucasian women who unconditionally stand by and stick by eachother even against their own best interests.

Del

I hare to sat it but that is the money shot.

It's the 800 pound gorilla in America's criminal "justice" system.
Even the media refuses to talk about how so many of these priests are avoiding jail time. They just report the matter for a day or two and then sweep it under the rug.






Troy

You have an irksome habit of changing your argument when presented information that refutes it;

Now that this point has been rendered indefensible, rather than acknowledging the flaw in your statement you then start talking about catholic priests?

?????

What are you talking about?

According to Mel, Harvey has yet to see jail or even a trial while they've tried Cosby TWICE already.
And Kevin Spacey who allegedly jump on top of a boy and put his d*ck in his face has YET to even feel cuffs around his wrists despite the accusations against him.

Cosby was tried and convicted with LESS evidence than has come out against these two men.
Or atleast less than what is being reported in the media.

Infact, they actually got Cosby on what some could consider DOUBLE JEOPARDY because he was basically tried twice for the same or similar crime but with a slightly different accuser or accusation.

Whether he's guilty or not....just like OJ Simpson.....they wanted to see him in jail so they basically kept on at it until the "got him" on something.

Do you see the same thing happening to Harvey, Kevin, Les Moonves, or any other prominent White man in Hollywood?

Cosby's conviction and imprisonment compared with Harvey and Spacey is just one example of injustice that we can ACTUALLY SEE, but there are probably hundreds of cases going on around the nation that we DON'T see of AfroAmerican men being charged and convicted on far less evidence than Caucasian men accused of the same thing.

Cynique

- a social reject who knows nothing about women and marriage.

I know enough about women not to marry YOU.

It would probably be illegal anyway on the grounds of bestiality, lol.

Chev

Like I said, some things are just genetic.
However I do believe that the proper diet can COMPLIMENT your genes to get the desired results.

One of my cousins had a weight problem all through out childhood and early adulthood and said he tried every diet and exercise routine that was out there on the market but nothing seemed to work for him long term. I used to watch his weight bounce up and down from very obese to obese back to very obese.
But after going to a chiropractor for a bad back he was not only able to lose weight but KEEP it off for over 20 years. He said his chiropractor told him to do just a FEW simple things like no eating 3 hours before bed time and not eating fried foods and it was more effective than all the diets and exercise programs he had done previously.

The proof was in the pudding because he lost tons of weight and actually kept it off.

Troy

The link you provided talks about PACIFIC ISLANDERS and MELANESIANS in general.

I'm talking about AUSTRALIAN ABORIGINALS in specific.

-two different subjects.

Also, we don't know WHAT ethnicity those girls are in that picture you provided.
There are literally thousands of island in the Pacific.
Do you know exactly who they are or where they come from?

I can tell you that ALL of the pictures I provided were of Australian Aboriginees.

5 minutes ago, Troy said:

I dont know about Weinstein. But you can't be indicted if you are not charged. Bill had over 50 accusers over a span of 40 years what white boy has as many accusers? At least one took him to criminal court. Again find a white guy you wanna compare bill to. 

 

Keep in mind far more white men have caught up in this "me too" movement than brothers. 

They may have been "caught up" in terms of losing their jobs or shamed on social media....but how many WHITE men have you seen actually led away in handcuffs to prison?

Think about the numbers.
You yourself admit FAR MORE White men have been accused, yet FAR LESS have been prosecuted and imprisoned...so you tell me what's going on.


While we're on the subject, despite all of the accusations and pay offs....how many CATHOLIC PRIESTS have you seen actually be led away in cuffs?
 

????

I'm not sure how you came to THAT conclusion based on the few words that I said, but you did remind me of what I was planning on doing anyway which was post pictures of a few examples.

Here are some pictures of Australian Aboriginees......

Notice how they have straight hair (often blonde), small foreheads in comparison to their faces, and relatively heavy eyebrow ridges.

My question is could THEY have been mixed with Neanderthal?

Is Weinstein in court on CRIMINAL charges or civil?

And what about Kevin Spacey who was accused of sexually assualting minors?
To my knowledge neither one of them have been indicted.
 

The first thing Cynique said in this thread was:

"I wrote this commentary below a couple of weeks ago but changed my mind about posting it because it was too cynical.  But, on second thought....."

See, that's the problem; you OVER thought it.

You should have went with your first thought to keep this silliness to yourself rather than sharing such EMBARASSING commentary with the rest of us...lol.

My man Tariq Nasheed breaks down WHY AfroAmericans need a CODE............

 

Chev

Actually the term "giants" is not found in the actual Hebrew Bible.
That word "giant" is a mistranslation in the King James Bible.

If you read Genisis Chapter 6 verse 4 in a Hebrew translation Bible you will read:

"The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown"

Nephilim in Hebrew literally means "those who came down".
Or some may say "fallen ones".

This is talking about the original Black men went down and mixed with the "daughters of Adam" or the Caucasian women.

Adam is not the first human being but represents the first "White" or Caucasian man.

 

We can see that Africans in the past as well as today did NOT have those incredibly large skulls and THE HUGE BROW RIDGE and, etc. as some of the ancient drawings showed. However, even today, we can see that many Europeans do still have this distinct BROW RIDGE, and the key is they have this feature on a large PERCENTAGE more than AFrian people do. Some African people do have this brow ridge but the percentage is very low. Some Africans, still today, have the massive skull, but again, on a much lower percentage than Europeans. And scientist admit that this feature is the same correlation to the NEANDERTHALS and other earlier homonids. Therefore and with the DNA analysis, this is one key factor that confirms all humans today have this in the DNA. But Afrian people did not retain as much of the DNA as Europeans.

What about the Australian Aboriginees who are not European and are dark skinned but have short foreheads and heavy brow ridges?

Do you think they have a very high percentage of neanderthal ancestry, or none at all?
 

Chev

White Supremacy was started by ‘a Black presence’

White Supremacy & the Ultimate SIN of IDOLATRY correlate one to another. [3] It was introduced in ‘the Garden of Eden’ to the modern man and woman. . . by a mutated White ‘being’ that had the same DNA as his Black ancestors, and reproduction is the constant ill-fruits of this Original sin.

Much of what you're saying sounds similar to Nation of Islam theology.

They teach that the idea of White Supremacy was started by a Black man named Yacub and his disciples who wanted to make an "unalike" people to rule people of color about 6,000 years ago.

The problem is though, that we have been exploited from birth and as slave children. Our ancestors accepted White Domination… which in turn, led to the enslavement of African children. So now, it is not ‘a voluntary co-signing’ and therefore, we perpetuate it, out of ignorance.

While our people were still in PHYSICAL slavery they didn't have much of a choice. But now that most of them have been PHYSICALLY free for atleast 50 years and have the freedom to read, enlighten themselves, and choose a different lifestyle....the fact that many of our families and communities are STILL dysfunctional can't be blamed primarily on the after effects of slavery.

For example the gang banging that has been occurring in Los Angeles for the past 20 or 30 years.
Those are young men who for DECADES have taken pride and delight in murdering other men of color, violence, and smoking dope.

How can that be attributed to slavery or it's after effects?

I think most of them are doing it because they WANT to and if racism had never even existed they probably would have STILL been doing it....only with arrows, rocks, and swords instead of guns.

It appears that many of our people whether in the Americas or in Africa have had tribal beefs and wars that go back centuries even before slavery and colonialism. The only thing Caucasians did was INTERRUPT the foolishness some of them were engaging in already. And now that Caucasians have physically left much of Africa many of them are going right back to it.

Thank for this breakdown! This is scary, but I can see it happening as you say when I go to the store. Someone just showed me a small box of raisins yesterday bought from the local grocery store. It said, "Made in Afghanistan"!

Well people better becareful with so-called "raisins" made in Afrganistan.
You might get an opium high off of them or end up a heroin addict....lol.

I've never been a victim of sexual assault so I'm not sure if I'm qualified to determine whether or not he received justice for the crimes he allegedly committed many years ago.

Howere what IS unjust in my opinion is the fact that most of the Caucasian men in Hollywood like Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacy who not only have accusations against them but have actual VIDEO AND AUDIO evidence of them assaulting women and boys.....haven't even been INDICTED yet, let alone sent to prison.

 

In every SERIOUS relationship I've been in (and in nearly 50 years I can still only count on one hand all the SERIOUS relationships I've been in so far) the ONLY time I felt like I was compromising was when I made the decision to actually LIVE TOGETHER.

When we lived in our separate homes and met eachother on our own terms or stayed with eachother for a night or two, it's beautiful but when we are force to "mix energies" and share eachother's personal space in the bathroom and kitchen then the funny looks and arguments start.

Which is why I disagree with this religious and historically ethical idea that people should get married BEFORE they have sex and live together.
I personally believe based on not only experience but observation that you should live with a person for atleast 1 year before making the decision to marry them.

Some women are great actresses and it takes atleast 3 good months of living with them before the "crazy" that dwells inside of them began to unveil itself and come out of hiding....lol.