Pioneer1

Troy I haven't met Tavis personally, I only know of him based on what I've seen on television and radio but I would say YES he's a gentlemen. Why? Because he carries himself in an intelligent and respectable manner. He's not a brute, savage, or thug. He's intelligent and articulate and knows how to dress, talk, and behave (atleast in public) in a professional manner. This makes you a GENTLEMEN......whether you're morally good or morally bad. Further, I don't believe you fake intelligence unless you're doing it on a heavily edited video or something. What I mean by that statement is that if you're STUPID you can't fake being highly intelligent. You just don't have it in you. If a man is so intellectually slow that he could never learn to read and can barely even count he's not going to all of a sudden come on a show and and correctly quote the Gettysburg Address word for word and start doing Calculus just to impress people. A person can HIDE their abilities, but they can't DISPLAY abilities that they don't have unless they're being coached on a heavily edited video where the source is hidden. As far as Trump...... He's not a genius but he's far from stupid. He may not be as academically inclined as Obama but he has a wealth of charisma and social intelligence that he uses to manipulate people.

Troy he must have done some serious shit. Unless he actually ASSAULTED someone (rape included) there is nothing that "serious" he could have done to warrant trying to take all of that man's money like that. He's being PUNISHED for being Black and successful. If you want to defend everything short of rape that is cool. Tavis could have found someone else besides a subordinate to screw (he obviously was not making love). Come on man nearly 75% of White couples found eachother ON their jobs! Now how in the world do these couples who were first working together even became involved with eachother in the first place unless they broke their own rules and someone made a sexual advance to the other? These hypocrites (Caucasian authority) are running around lecturing people on work-place relationships and telling people they shouldn't do this and shouldn't do that but THEY are in the back rooms and basements screwing the hell out of eachother. Outside of CERTAIN situations like the military, police, academic institutions, medical profession, and the like......I say if a Black man wants to screw a co-worker as long as he isn't forcing them to he should GO FOR IT. Screw the "rules" or some silly policy if he didn't help make them. Get your freak on bro!

Troy Either Candice is a lady or she sleeps with white men to get ahead -- which is it? What I say often SEEMS contradictory to you because you don't understand the analytical way my mind works and my moral code which is different than most people's. But if you line up what I say you will find definite consistency. She IS a lady in the fact that she knows how to carry herself in an intelligent, classy, well mannered, and feminine demeanor. It's how she acts in PUBLIC that determines how classy she is, not how many men she sleeps with or for what reason. I doubt Cardi's private persona is the same as her public one. Perhaps....... You can fake stupidity but you can't fake intelligence.

Not sure HOW much money it would take for me to be "happy" living in NYC. I don't really find the city very appealing for residential purposes. Long Island....yes.....the City....no. Long Island has a million little villages with funny ass names that have what you need and want to relax and enjoy yourself. You can drive or catch the LIRR to get into the city to take care of any business or attend any event.......and afterwards get back to your nice quiet "funny named" hamlet. Speaking of being happy....... I almost forgot what I was going to say about the original topic of delayed gratification. One of the reasons so many AfroAmericans would rather "eat the desert first" is because so many come from such unstable environments that they don't know if they're going to LIVE long enough to see the results of their efforts. If you grow up in a ghetto hearing gun shots every night and bullets coming in through the windows and half of your friends you grew up with are killed before 25.....why would you "wait" to have fun? You'd want to have as much fun in this life as you can because you never know when you'll meet your demise.

I think entertaining the idea that his behavior was somehow criminal is a little extreme. It's not like he raped or assaulted anyone. From what I understand of the matter it was completely CONSENTUAL between all parties involved. Again, a completely ethical issue and a matter of poor judgment. Not a crime or evil. As far as work-place relationships, It's complex. You shouldn't just have BLANKET policies and rules for every job. Every institution should have different standards and even different standards based on the department. For examples: If it's the military and a person must be qualified to achieve certain positions. Then it should be policy that those of a lower rank not have relationships with superiors. If it's an academic institution where a student relies on their teacher to grade them and pass them, again there should be a policy against sexual relationships there. But if this is the Home Depot and you have 2 co-workers who find eachother attractive...what's wrong with them having a relationship?

Troy I used to see more attracted people get a pass when they should have been fired. Then you had the same observations that I had. This is why I said most very attractive people don't get to develop OTHER skills like intelligence or articulation. They don't have to. Kind of like how most really really giant dudes never really learned how to fight like a smaller guy. They didn't have to. You are, pardon the expression, a classic "dog" LOL! I used to be very inconsiderate. But not on purpose. I didn't realize (because I wasn't taught) that women usually put more "feelings" into sexual relationships than men do and didn't realize the pain I caused seeking what I thought of as recreational pleasure. As I've gotten older I fond it more difficult to sperate what I think of a person from how sexually attracted I am to then. If I find your behavior revolting I'm not sure I'd be able to get it up for you. That is not to say that I physical attraction is not part of the equation. It s not an either/or proposition, it is both. I don't really care about a woman's politics when it come to sleeping with her. To me, a woman's BEHAVIOR or her femininity and classiness matters much more than her politics and even her Black consciousness. This is why I'd choose Candace Owens over Cardi B....lol. Cardi is ghetto and trashy. Candace is a fucking sell-out and probably sucked more White $%&@ to get where she's at, than a little bit. But she knows how to carry herself like a lady! I could actually TAKE Candace SOMEWHERE. I could have her on my arm at an event and she could hold a conversation with people without embarrassing me and herself. Imagine if you went out with Cardi B and took her to some sort of academic event around other professors and teachers...lol. ((said in a Puerto Rican accent)) "I like deez nails but..... When dey are deeees long you know...... It kinda hard to clean yo ass after you use dee john You na'da mean?"

Voodoo is REAL. It's just widely misunderstood.

Lol..... What country is THIS in, Wakanda?

Troy Given your statements @Pioneer1 I can see why these training course are required. LOL.....man shut up! One of rules is that professors can not have sex with the students -- consensual or otherwise. This is obvious to me, but I can see, now where people like Pioneer would see no problem with this and really do need to have someone explain to them why this is just a very bad idea. Perhaps I didn't make myself clear in the previous post. There's a difference between ETHICS, MORALS, and LEGALITY. Look...... I wouldn't do it (if I were a professor or owner of a business) and I don't think it should be done. I agree there should be a policy against it! But this is a matter of ETHICS....not morals. And there shouldn't be any LEGAL repercussions to it like being sued or facing jail time. Understand me clearly...... It IS an unethical thing for a professor to sleep with his students! Yes. But he shouldn't go to JAIL for it or have to pay a FINE for it! The loss of his job under private agreement to the policy should be enough and his punishment should END THERE. You don't go physically harming or locking up people or suing them and taking away their money for consentual sexual behavior.

Most AfroAmericans aren't destitute but most ARE POOR....relatively speaking. I used to do a lot of community work with the homeless and abused peoples so I learned the differences. Destitute means you can't meet 2 or more of your basic needs. Poverty means you can meet them, but barely. The United States tends to provide enough assistance through government and charitable organizations to keep most people out of sheer destitution. But POVERTY is very high and is growing at an exceedingly fast rate. So is actual destitution, by the way.

Troy I actively try not to do it, which is why I'm sensitive to it when i see others do it. Perhaps. But I'm inclined to believe that you've become sensitive to it because you're not used to SEEING it much in this society anymore. When we were growing up and especially before we were born, men would OVERTLY comment on a woman's looks and routinely used words like "sweetie" and "toots" when talking to women and would objectify and sexualize them. It started getting stamped out in the 70s and since then whenever you hear or see a man doing it on television or professional society you're taken aback because it's so UNusual to see it in public today because of the potential repercussions. .....hearing a man say this is like hearing a Caucasian man call you a "negro" in the course of a conversation. You didn't expect that he'd still say that because it hasn't happened for so long, lo. I noticed you did this with Candice Owens too, as if her a relative attractiveness should have some bearing on her intelligence. For me the converse is true; intelligence has a great deal of bearing on one attractiveness. I'm not sure if I understand you, can you explain a little more? I consider her sexually attractive PRIMARILY because of her looks and the feminine way she cares herself. Not because of her political ideology which is rabidly poisonous and treasonous. Her high intelligence and articulation are also attractive but it's not the primary reason. But I understand that not everyone can separate one from the other. Further, I would not try to make a determination about the sister's intellect based solely on what she said (or read) in the video. How could one possibly do that? I've followed the sister for quite some time. She's a lawyer as well as an activist. I suggest that you stop considering how attractive one is when hearing what they have to say. I have a very analytical mind. I can separate EACH of a person's qualities and weigh each of them in making a determination how valuable they are to my principles as well as if they are an ally or adversary. I could bang the hell out of Candace Owens' little sell-out ass and the next day dog her out so badly in a televised debate that she'd be ashamed to show her face in public for another 5 years....lol.

Troy Man..... Now you know good and well you posted this thread JUST to rile me up.....lol. He could not keep his d*ck in his pants for 5 minutes? Why should he? He's a professional heterosexual AfroAmerican man who has a successful career and is good at what he does. Why shouldn't he be rewarded with all the sex he wants? Why is he sexually harassing people? I followed the story somewhat. From what I've heard and read I don't believe he actually "harassed" anyone. People just think it's inappropriate because he was in a position of power over those women and they saw it as taking "advantage" of them. I don't look at it that way because I don't see sex as harm or necessarily as exploitation. I've helped women out for sex and/or sexual favors. I see no problem with it. You want me to shovel your snow, paint your house, help mentor your son or help get him out of trouble? You don't have any money, can't cook, but offer me SEX instead? OK In many cases I'd do it for free as a favor but in some cases I won't do it UNLESS you pay be back with a sexual favor. It just depends. Women have been using SEX to get favors from men since the beginning of humanity. Now many of our people would be SHOCKED to hear that...lol. Because of their twisted morals....they see that as "taking advantage" of someone rather than seeing it as a form of trade or bartering. Tavis is not a married man and didn't take a vow of celibacy. I have no problem with him screwing all the women he wants for whatever reasons he chooses or they choose....as long as it's not forced. My question is why in the HELL is PBS.....a network that promotes homosexuality on a regular basis....having "morality clauses" in their contracts and trying to govern a man's sexuality?????

Troy Man when you say it like that you make it sound like an it is unusual for an attractive sista to speak intelligently. It's not the norm. She not just attractive, but STEREOTYPICALLY attractive....like she could be a model. Although most very attractive women are of normal intelligence, it's been my observation (so far) the most of them aren't very articulate or very smart because they haven't had to develop those skills to be successful in life as...say....an UN-attractive woman would have to. They were used to relying on their LOOKS to help them with success in a male-dominated society, so unless they were aiming for a profession that requires a great degree of academic smarts like medicine or law....they didn't develop their abilities like that. More importantly, why do we care what she looks like? You know women tend to largely be judged (by men atleast) by their looks. The first thing we notice about a sister is how good she looks BEFORE we notice how well she speaks, her moral character, or intellect.

Some people don’t want America to exist as it currently does. They don’t recognize what we have here. Unity with them would be counterproductive. And some people don't have any imagination or vision BEYOND the society that Caucasians have constructed for them to live in. For a dog or a cat........ Eating nasty food and sleeping on the floor is MUCH better than having to live outside in the elements and fight other animals to survive. And on the occasion that the "Master" tosses it some scraps or allows it to sleep in the same bed with him.....oh man...they think it's "heaven" and thinks it don't get much better than that, lol. Why? Because (like that cable bill commercial that shows the hamster chewing on money....lol) they're ANIMALS and their intelligence is limited and their vision is limited so they don't have enough sense to imagine anything better than what they already are getting from their master. A lot of our people are the same way. They think THIS society we currently have is as good as it gets.....lol. The idea that WE (as AfroAmericans) could actually build something bigger and better that would put this current world to shame is beyond their scope of imagination. Most AfroAmericans hadn't IMAGINED a kingdom or even a city bigger than New York until the movie "Black Panther" came out.....which shows you how limited many of their minds were. Like that old House Negro When another slave comes to him and says "Come on man, let's go and leave this place........." He stands there looking at him crazy and says: "Go? Go where? Nicca you must be crazy! You don't not recognize how good we GOT IT HERE! Ain't nothing better than this here! You can go if YOU wanna go.....but I love it here!!"

FAS Maybe like Daniel says I use too many words to make a simple point. My point is............. I predict that Trump's current moves are setting the stage for something that will become much bigger and better (for us) than he or the other White Supremacists anticipate so I prefer HIM to remain in office for however long he's got. (I just can't bring myself to actually vote for him) Those racists militias and their "attempt" to execute Black people outright (as opposed to the covert operations they've been engaging in against our people for decades) is PRECISELY one of the things that will lead to OUR victory as AfroAmericans....if you only knew. Trump is bringing everything out in the open. All of the hatred. All of the corruption. All of the wicked genocidal plans. He's exposing it all.....and our people are WAKING UP as a result. But you prefer Biden/Harris. Who will just calm things down, so that everyone can hold hands again. KEEP those racist militias on "stand by" for just a little bit longer, while the more refined racists put more of our people BACK to sleep. Gives White Supremacy more opportunity and time to inflict shame, suffering, and death on more of our people for I don't know how long. No. GET IT OVER WITH. I don't have a "death wish" as you put it.....LOL. I have a VICTORY WISH. However, even IF I was wrong about our predicted victory (and I don't believe I am).... And even IF the racist militias were successful (and I don't believe they will be)..... I don't know about you but I believe in an Afterlife, so wouldn't a quick fast death over in a matter of weeks be much better than a slow torturous one by another 400 years of disease, police brutality, and defacto slavery through more mass incarceration? Again, Trump and his OVERT calls to White Supremacists to war.....is still prefered.

This beautiful (and surprisingly intelligent) sister explains why you should NOT vote in this current system and give it credibility..............

Daniel it shows a negative mindset. It's called being REALISTIC. Yes, our people need to learn financial discipline and how to invest and compound their money but they must first learn how to GET the money! What he's doing is like lecturing people who haven't graduated from Elementary school yet on HIGH SCHOOL level material. If they haven't properly completed the basics, anything you try to teach them will probably just go over their heads. Besides..... I've done a little research on this "Rotimi" dude and he's the son of a Nigerian INVESTMENT BANKER!!! How in the HELL can someobdy like that relate to the average AfroAmerican who is unemployed or working a low wage (under $20 an hour) job? I can see now he will miss the point in my story Mommy Be So Mean She Takes My Money. Well, what I HAVEN'T missed is that while you'll duck and dodge the TRUTH all day long....you are good for sitting up and telling STORIES....lol. "Do you wontz to hear another one, lil' Andy???"

Troy Infections without desths will just "prove" to covid deniers that they are right. Kind of like what I said in another thread, that unless he's very sick from it they'll just use it as an excuse to say it's not "that bad". Yeah, I heard what Minister Farrakhan said. A lot of religious people claim that the virus is from God and that it's some sort of curse or Divine Punishment. I'm not going to say that it's NOT...I simply don't know one way or the other. But one of the reasons I'm not religious is for reasons like that. People like to point at this and that and CLAIM it came from God as if they know for sure. The SUPREME BEING is just That.....The MOST POWERFUL BEING in Existence! The most Powerful and Intelligent BEING in Existence doesn't need to send a disease that makes thousands of innocent bystander and little children sick and kill them just to punish some of the evil doers. Even a government can send an assassin or sniper in to take out a dictator without harming anyone else. So why would an Earthquake or Hurricane or Plague were thousands of people of various backgrounds, ages, and demographis are killed and seriously injured be a weapon of choice when all it takes is a lightning strike directly on whoever deserves it? "Oh no, see you got it all wrong!!!!! I was going to use that rope to make a BELT Not a noose for lynching negroes! Just give me a 2nd chance and I'll make that clear!"

Well, it's interesting that so many REPUBLICANS are now coming down with Covid19 after preaching for so long about how the virus was not real, not that serious, and how you can't shut down society in the name of safety. Opening up the schools when they KNOW it was dangerous. Not wearing masks and telling other people not to. Now........ Senator Thom Tillis of Tennessee Senator Mike Lee of Utah Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin Rep Louie Gohmert of Texas Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky Kellyanne Conway former Counselor to Trump Hope Hicks former Communications Director to Trump And now Chris Christie former New Jersey Governor ....have Covid-19 And the list of Republicans who have it is growing by the day!

This shows you the amount of "disconnection" and inconsideration that exists in the AfroAmerican community today. We KNOW that not all AfroAmericans are poor....but most are. Most are struggling. But instead telling people who are broke, unemployed, and struggling HOW to get together and start a business or service to GENERATE money that can be saved and invest LATER ON DOWN THE LINE AFTER BASIC NEEDS HAVE BEEN MET- He wants to lecture people about "buying a house" and living off your interest capital gains instead of dipping into your principle. Shit that only concerns MILLIONAIRES who earn enough interest to be able to comfortably do so anyway. That's not a conversation to have with poor people. There's a PANDEMIC going on. Millions are unemployed, being evicted, having their homes foreclosed- ....and these selfish negroes are sitting up there talking like it's 1998.

Troy If Biden wins in November right when all the prohibitions against foreclosures and evictions end, Biden will be burdened with all that misery. You think you have seen unrest so far? I noticed that and I'm sure many other people did also. He's working from BOTH angles. He's gonna bribe you into voting for him (or atleast that was the plan until he got sick) by passing out those IRS checks right before election. And by extending the moratorium only until December (which doesn't seem to be very effective because hundreds of thousand have STILL been evicted and put out on the street) he's indirectly telling people that if you don't vote for him and he loses.....he won't extend it for you! You think you have seen unrest so far? Wait until 2021. Man I've told you, I BELIEVE (because I don't know...I'm not a fortune teller) that 2021 is going to be the year that things turn around for AfroAmericans and we collectively become VERY successful starting around the late Winter early Spring. What you, I, and other AfroAmericans with good sense must do right now is seek shelter and BE SAFE. Try to avoid as much madness and chaos as we can as this society collapses so we can live through it and make it on the OTHER SIDE where I believe success is waiting on us. FAS Well..... What you said was lovely and poetic but it was based in EMOTION, not logic. And when it comes to serious matters I tend to prefer COLD LOGIC over STICKY-SWEET EMOTION because it usually proves to be more pratical. I'm savvy enough to know that if Trump recovers and continues the country's march to societal collapse, hordes of racist cretins armed to the teeth with ak-47s and ar-15s will do search and destroy missions for me and everyone who looks like me.... and destroy us. Perhaps this illustrates the difference in our mind sets or what we consider success. Think about what you're saying....... Here's a bunch of racist White men with guns "standing by" to attempt a racial slaughter. And you're saying we should vote for ONE White man and hope he gets in so that he protects us from ANOTHER White man. While I'm saying that our community shouldn't be in that position to BEGIN WITH. Because if those racists armed militias exists under Trump....they're going to exist under Biden too, and it will only be a matter of time before they are activated no matter WHO is president. Furthermore, I don't know what it feels like to be a woman but I know most women have an innate desire to feel protected. How secure do you feel believing that the men of your community have become so weak, docile, and unorganized that while a few may fight back many of them will simply ALLOW gangs of racists to go door to door killing their own women and children and elderly while THEY hide in a closet somewhere with their hands over their ears trying to drown out the screams and gunshots? Perhaps this is where logic overrules emotion and even the survival instinct but IF what you said was true..... Wouldn't logic dictate that relatively quick DEATHS from mass slaughter be better than continuing to live with weak and pathetic men who can't protect you or your children and living with the knowledge that anytime they get ready the racists can attack? Who wants to continue to live under such pitiful, helpless, and stressful conditions? Black folks sure do take pride in "surviving" and talking about what all they went through and how they're still surviving in oppression, while a lot of other people would just KILL THEMSELVES before ending up in such a pitiful condition. Imagine a JAPANESE man standing at the gas station begging for money with some dirty shoes on and a bottle of malt liquor in his hand grinning at you with a mouth full of yellowish brown teeth as he preaches to you about what all he "survived" and how much he's been through in his life. You probably couldn't imagine it because you probably HAVE NEVER seen it. But guess who you DO see standing around babbling and acting crazy at the gas station..................... "Yeah, I been around da block a few times. Yeah, I been caught up with diss and dat But I'm still here! I'm still ALIVE! See what I'm saying...... I'm a SURVIVOR....na'da'mean?? Hee hee heeeeee.... Cain't nobody put me down!!!!! I'm go LIVE baby baaaabaaaaayyyy!!!"

Daniel But shouldn’t the Country come first? My people (AfroAmericans) come before my nation. Like Malik Shabazz said, before there even WAS an America.....we were Black. And looooooooooooooooooooooooong after America is gone from the scene there will STILL be Black folks, lol. I just couldn’t see electing people who want to destroy America. Then why did you vote for Trump, who is ACTIVELY trying to destroy the United States on behalf of the Globalists?

Minister Farrakhan warned him earlier this Summer to take this seriously and put on a mask.............

I think he may be a smart young man but there are too many gaps in his presentation. I didn't hear any "challenge" nor did I hear any actual INSTRUCTIONS from him. All I heard was more cliches and vague principles that anyone can tell eachother riding on the train. First of all he's telling people how they should SAVE and INVEST their money before he tells them how to actually MAKE the money...which is the first step. I know a lot of our people lack financial discipline and financial literacy but the BIGGEST problem most AfroAmericans have is ACQUIRING enough money to save and invest in the first place. A lot of our people don't realize how wealthy Caucasians are. Caucasians have access to TONS of money, so they have enough to play around with and practice with until they are able to master it. Don't talk to AfroAmericans about investing and contracts until you teach them how to generate wealth in the first place.

Troy you hate 45 to win the state because you and your boys decided to sit this one out. Lol..... Not sure if you got the gist of what I've been saying for the past few months but I actually PREFER Trump in office over Biden because of the chaos he brings. He's helping to tear down the system by destroying people's faith in it. Like I said, they like to put the Democrats in office to clean up the mess the Republicans made and get the system churning again so that people can maintain their faith in it. As long as Trump is in the office lying, cheating, and screwing things up....people are seeing Washington for EXACTLY the clown show that it is. Like Hollywood....it's a workshop for white supremacy and deception.