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Stefan & Troy Daniel said: "Hundreds of thousands may have died but millions have recovered." It's THAT type of reasoning that fuels the argument for "herd immunity".....a concept that a lot of Republicans are pushing. Infact, they've been pushing since the beginning of the Pandemic earlier this year. They kept pointing to Germany and Demark and other European nations that either refused to shut down or shut down too late and were willing to allow so much percentage of their population die in a FAILED attempt to make the rest of the population "immune" to it. Guess what? It didn't work and herd immunity was never achieved and they are STILL dying in record numbers. But the problem with this type of thinking is those who engage in it rarely see THEMSELVES as a victim of their own wishes. They don't think THEY may be one of those unfortunate victims who ends up dying in the name of "herd immunity". As far as they're concerned, it's always SOMEONE ELSE you may have to take the fall.....not them. Daniel Research takes money, food distribution takes money. You are condemning the activity which finances the solution to the problem. The money that will be needed to operate both does not and will not come from the private sector or people working. It comes from the Federal Government. And their money supply IS NOT interrupted or even effected by a societal shut-down because they don't rely on working and services to produce income....they literally make their own money out of thin air, as much as needed. Under a real lock-down the U.S. military or atleast National Guard could take care of all of those needs for a good couple months while the nation focuses on eradicating the virus and healing. When are we going to take responsibility for our own education? I actually agree with this concept. Probably not for the same reasons YOU do, but I agree with it and see it as a NECESSITY if we expect for any meaningful progress to be made.

Daniel Yes but I'm inclined to believe that you are against mandatory v*ccines because most Republicans are against it. Anti-v*ccination is just one issue that's part of your Party's platform. ......not because it's been a tool used by racists. And not because of the historical evidence that v*ccinations have been a primary agent used to carry out racist attacks against our people.

Lol.... You think I'm angry with or have any animosity toward Daniel? I know what he is and what he stands for. I had the fellow figured out early on. I'm having too much fun with him and his views to get pissed at him. Infact, I try not to piss HIM off to the point he runs away....LMBAO. Besides, he ignores me most of the time anyway. Which is of TREMENDOUS value, because this allows him to fully display his foolishness unbridled by shame or embarrassment! Lol, not only is HE entertaining but Troy's REACTION to his words are often times even MORE entertaining! "Huh?? Just drink some hot pepperment tea and you won't catch the virus?? .....say WHAT???"

Stefan Umph.... Well...... *I'm going to PRETEND that I have no suspicions of you pandering to the Black female author (Mel) of this thread with your very pro-Black woman anti-Black man post.....lol. Pioneer, if you want your people to continue suffering as they have for the past four years under Trump, then do discourage your own folks from casting their ballot for Joe Biden. Except for the Covid 19, the suffering so many AfroAmericans are enduring DID NOT begin with the Trump administration. It may or may not have escalated under it, but it certainly didn't begin under it. If anything, AfroAmericans have become more race-conscious and enlightned as to the TRUE nature of this government and society under the Trump Administration as opposed to being blinded and laid down to sleep under the Obama delusion. Biden is NOT ignoring anyone. He has plans to help all. And you know this, how? Oh, because he SAID so...lol And we all know White men say what they mean, so nevermind the question. If you're ticked off Biden is not paying particular attention to Black men, this is our fault. Black women vote in greater numbers than Black men do. Their support can be counted on by Democratic candidates. Black male voters are finicky, wishy-washy and easily fooled. And what is worse, a variety of things tick Black men off. .....Yeah, like being ignored and taken for granted. Human beings operate off of REWARD AND PUNISHMENT. It's basic human nature. You want to encourage a particular behavior you REWARD IT. If you want to discourage it then PUNISH IT or just ignore it...and it'll often times stop. AfroAmericans in general and especially the men are tired of being ignored and even worse BLAMED by do-nothing politicians who make stupid boneheaded political moves that cost THEMSELVES the election like Hillary did and like Biden is doing right now. Then turn around and blame everyone but themselves for their loss. *You do nothing for and offer nothing to Black men, but then turn around and wonder why they don't bother voting for you. *You won the election by 3 million votes but somehow ended up losing the electoral count. ....but instead of fighting it and taking it all the way to the Supreme Court you CONCEDE the dame election. Then turn around and blame it on "Black men" claiming they didn't get out and vote for you in large enough numbers.....lol. Give me a break. Look, we want to be catered to also! We want to vote FOR something for a change. Instead of frightened into voting AGAINST someone and berated and lectured to by people who clearly don't care about us nor have our best interests in mind. Tell the truth. How many Black men do you know of who opted to support Bernie Sanders and do not plan to vote for the Democratic Party standard bearer? They are all over the place. For what? What the hell has Bernie, Biden, or even Harris for that matter promised to do for ANY AfroAmerican man specifically? Has anyone guaranteed Universal Healthcare and backed that promise up with action? Has anyone guaranteed unconditional high wage jobs and job training that would immediately improve the lives of millions of unemployed under educated AfroAmerican men around this nation? Has anyone guaranteed an end to privatized prisons and excessive laws and punishments? If not, what difference does it make to US (Black men) specifically who gets in office? Maybe it'll make a difference to women, gays, or midgets.....don't mean shit to us because we experience the same thing despite WHO is in that office. We will only have a seat at the table if we prove we belong there. See, and that's the difference between YOUR thinking and MY thinking. You think AfroAmerican men need to make themselves busy trying to "prove" to White Supremacists that we deserve to be in their presence and at their table like Lazarus (Lazy-R-Us) begging at the table of the rich man for a few crumbs. The fact is, it is the willingness of so many of our people to even PARTICIPATE in an obviously racist and corrupt system that keeps it propped up and keeps our people distracted and confused as to why so little progress is being made. Get up Lazarus! Stop begging Satan for the baddest coolest seats in hell! Stop playing into Satan's divide-n-conquer schemes that pit Black men and women against eachother to the joy of a COMMON ENEMY. Pull AWAY from the White Supremacist's goddamned table (system) and let it COLLAPSE and die a natural death! .....so we can focus on building not just our own table but our own big beautiful banquet! "Yall ready to eat? Where Big Mama at??"

Mel Based on what you just said, for clarification I have to ask you.............. Do you believe there is a difference between the Conscious and Sub-Conscious? And if so, do you believe one is spiritual and the other is not?

There is a difference in focus. I know! While some people are focused on saving lives.....others are focused on making money in spite of their own health or safety. But check this out........ We know that PSYCHOPATHS don't have a conscience and don't care about anyone else besides themselves: But a SMART psychopath would realize that you can't operate an economy when half of working age population is sick or dead. A SMART psychopath would shut down the economy and get the virus under control in order to protect his "human resources" while PRETENDING to do it out of concern. But a STUPID psychopath is so short-sighted and focused on money that they will destroy the society by keeping society open until there is no one left to work.....including themselves. A STUPID psychopath will let the virus surge on the same planet THEY live on....as if they won't end up infected themselves. A fool will not only endanger others but even THEMSELVES chasing a dollar bill blowing around in the street...lol. "Hey, where you going?? Come back here fool... You go get yourself KILT !" Some folks need to be locked away for the safety of others AND themselves.....lol

If they got a chance to see the ballots before the election it may inspire them to do exactly that, talk to the candidates or even run for office themselves! True. Seeing the ballot would help some and confuse others. The Candidates better make sure they properly connected with their target voters. A lot of people don't like for me to say this but...... Most people are politically ignorant and the more information and choices you give them the more confused they get. This is why I say the SIMPLE TRUTH is the best approach for the average voter. Trump and the other Republicans know this all too well (because they destroyed the educational system to purposely dumd down the population....lol).....which is why they speak in very simple and emotionally charged terms..... "They wanna take away your guns!" "They're taking prayer out of the classroom!" "We need to open America back up!" It might be a bunch of lies, but it's simple and easy to understand. Anyway....... My point is Candidates who genuinely want to help the AfroAmerican or poor communities MUST take as simple (and truthful) approach as possible in order to avoid confusion. Contrary to popular belief, HYPERBOLE is an excellent tactic with poor and uneducated people even if you're trying to help them. "I'm gonna to put more money in your pocket!" "My opponent is a no good racist who just wants to lock Black folks up!" "They wanna open up America to so more folks can get sick and die!" You may exaggerate a little but atleast the people know you're on their side and are trying to help them. They won't be confused as to who to vote for come election day. Confusion slows the momentum and takes away some of your energy because you have to stop moving and figure out which direction to go before continuing. I've learned from years of community work that the plainer you make things to poor and uneducated people, the less confusion and more support you have.

Daniel Lol..... You call the Republican Party the "party of Lincoln" yet accuse others of poetic truth? I simply pointed out that nature of your statement. I didn't dismiss or even question the truth of it. The fact is, the ACCESS to healthcare isn't the biggest problem with the healthcare system in the UnitedStates. It's a major problem, but not the biggest. The biggest problem is the QUALITY of healthcare. For the most part they aren't actually CURING these diseases, they are merely "treating" the symptoms. It's not a healthcare system. It's a money making system that makes you feel better in your sickness so you keep coming back for more treatment while they keep getting paid. Instead of focusing on a CURE for Covid 19 that actually kills the virus itself...... Like the flu, they focus on coming up with various vaccines to mandate you taking year after year for the various strains of it they plan to keep circulating through the population. As well as various other asprin, tylenol, cold and flu medicines they make BILLIONS from selling to the public to help manage the symptoms. It is my understanding that in Cuba they actually CURE diseases. Instead of just treating the symptoms, they actually get rid of them! So that you aren't bothered by them again and can focus on other things in your life.

Troy Daniel said: "very few people don’t have access to health care in America. Also there are no countries where you have completely free access to treatment and medicine." See! I'm not the ONLY one who uses "extremes" to make their argument.....lol. I'd say it's a pretty decent tactic.

Troy @Troy See, this is what I'm talking about. I totally support our people participating in LOCAL elections because this is where we stand to gain the most political and economic benefit. Your vote is most likely to count and you get to meet the Candidate and talk to her/him one on one to see if your demands and desires will be addressed. BTW, Biden is making the SAME mistake Hillary did in 2016 which is IGNORE the Black vote in Michigan. 1 1/2 million Black folks totally ignored. They talk about how most of the AfroAmericans (like myself) in Michigan and Wisconsin stayed home in 2016, but they don't talk about how none of them came and pandered to us and gave us a REASON to vote for them. Trump goes DIRECTLY to his base and has one rally after another. He goes to the Whitest areas he can find in the middle of the woods and hypes the people up. Does Biden go to the Black neighborhoods? Did Hillary go to the 'hood and have rallies? Biden comes to Michigan and instead of hitting up Black areas like Detroit, Flint, and Benton Harbor he run out to small hick-towns in the middle of pumpkin patches and gives speeches to a bunch of plaid-shirt wearing racists standing around with their arms folded with shit-eating grins on their faces who he knows DAMN WELL ain't gonna vote for him. "Sure I'll vote for ya.... just gimme one good reason to!"

How do you know these things were a result of training your mind, as opposed to them being a result of you simply allowing your spiritual self "shine" through?

Personally, I think we have our own intelligent folks who can offer plans for personal investment. But they lack media access. I mentioned this on another thread. While we should encourage more financial literacy among our people (AfroAmericans) and the best ways to manage our money....when we actually get some.....the main concern for the AVERAGE AfroAmerican today is actually GETTING some money in the first place! Let us not put the cart before the horse. It's futile for Negroes to fill up convention centers and stadiums being lectured on the best stocks to buy or bit-coin investments when half of them are unemployed and the other half are working low wages job at Taco Bell and Dairy Queen. Our people are in an economic state of emergency. "Well Pioneer....ALL Black folks ain't broke! What's wrong with us talking about various ways of investment?" Because it CONFUSES too many of our people! Most financial Investing is designed for those with REAL disposable income...meaning atleast HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of dollars to play around with. A couple hundred dollars itching your pocket that you're not sure what to do with it IS NOT disposable income! Which means the vast majority of our people DO NOT have real disposable income to fuck up in these various investment schemes! We need to own land and real estate, but too many of these "investment" and bit-coin seminars will only CONFUSE and DISTRACT our people. Our people need to get comfortable WORKING again! They should be encouraged to actually USE THEIR HANDS to get outside and clean up their communities and REBUILD them! Learn how to practice medicine and learn first aid to treat and help eachother during this Pandemic. Too much "investment" talk makes them lazy. It takes their focus away from actually wanting to work and instead has them dreaming about how they can avoid work and get rich by shuffling money around!

Trump has set the stage for Blacks to make great strides The only "Blacks" that man has set the stage for are ENTERTAINERS like Kanye West and that lipstick wearing football player he had speaking at the RNC.....when he wants them to perform for him and the other bigots in power.

How can a VICTIM of a war "avoid" it? AfroAmericans are VICTIMS of White Supremacy and the war it has waged against our people for the past 4,000 years. Let me explain something to you about White Supremacy.......... Neely Fuller Jr. teaches that your "culture" isn't what you claim out of your mouth or what your parents did but what YOU ARE DOING. Whatever you are DOING RIGHT NOW is your culture. There is no "culture war" going on between White Supremacists because they all agree on the same basic culture. What you see is COS-PLAY. Various White Supremacists (in power) who dress up in different uniforms (also known as White Actors) PRETEND to disagree with eachother in order to confuse the public and keep that confusion going while they maintain power and control. Yes there are some low level poor Caucasians who may genuinely fight with and kill eachother over different things, but generally speaking the Caucasians incharge agree with eachother over the basics and there is no "culture war" because their "culture" is White Supremacy and the domination of people of color. That's THEIR culture. Not English vs Spanish. Not family values. Not Country Music vs Rap. Not Abortion Not Catholic vs Protestant Not Atheist vs Born Again Christian Not Capitalist vs Communist White Supremacy is THEIR CULTURE. White Supremacy is THEIR RELIGION. Daniel I've told you time and time again you're NOT going to avoid what these White Supremacists have planned for the United States. If you think you can tuck your books under your arms and run off into a room somewhere and let "them" duke it out while dollar signs roll around in your eyes as you work on a plan to translate your books and sell them in Nigeria and China....you're in for a rude awakening. If these White Supremacists have their way................ The borders are going to be shut down! The books are going to be confiscated! They're going to put a shovel or broom in your hands! You better get "Shame" and those other audio books you're listening to copied down on MP3 so you can listen to them while the White Supremacists have you WORKING and digging in the snow. "I used to drive taxis and write books.... What'chall used to do???"

We've seen how Race Soldiers have used the Pandemic and the executive orders and rules related to it to harass AfroAmericans around the nation. Despite tons of Caucasians who flood beaches and parks breaking all types of Covid 19 Rules.......these soldiers manage to hunt around looking for AfroAmericans to victimize if just 2 of them walk too close to eachother or fart too loud on a breezy day. Even Dr. Jerome Adams who is U.S. Surgeon General ended up getting a ticket for simply walking through a park WHILE BLACK. I'm sure they didn't know who he was initially and figured he was "any negro" they could ticket and victimize. US surgeon general to plead not guilty in Hawaii virus case HONOLULU (AP) — A lawyer for U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams said Wednesday that his client, who is charged with illegally entering a Hawaii public park that was closed because of the coronavirus, will plead not guilty. The criminal complaint against Adams, who was on Oahu in August helping with surge testing amid a spike in coronavirus cases, says he and two other men were looking at the view and taking pictures at Kualoa Regional Park on the island’s northeastern coast. The rural park offers a view of the famed Mokolii island, also known as Chinaman’s Hat for its cone shape. Adams did not appear in court or on a video call for the Wednesday hearing, but his attorney, Michael Green, said his client understands the charge and will plead not guilty. Because the charge is a “full misdemeanor,” the judge said the not guilty plea could not be entered until Adams decided if he would waive his right to a jury trial. Green said Adams would not waive that right. The judge set an arraignment date of Nov. 2 in circuit court. Adams told a police officer who cited him that he was visiting Hawaii to work with Gov. David Ige on COVID-19 and didn’t know parks were closed. Honolulu Mayor Kirk Caldwell had closed them at the time to try to prevent crowding that could spread the virus. Violating any of the mayor’s emergency orders is punishable as a misdemeanor, with fines of up to $5,000, up to a year in jail or both. A few days after the citation, Adams appeared with Caldwell at a news conference announcing a partnership between the city and federal government for surge testing. “I’m proud of every single one of you who has sacrificed over the past several months,” Adams said at the time. “And to the people who are lapsing a little bit, I want you to understand that a little bit of fun right now can result in shutdowns further on down the road. It’s important that we all do the right things right now, even if we don’t feel we are personally at risk.” https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-kirk-caldwell-david-ige-hawaii-honolulu-757036916291f9d9f78a16781dd8fca9 ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Both the Mayor of Honolulu AND the Governor of Hawaii knows that he has this ticket and COULD use their powers to dismiss it and this is usually what happens because of the "unspoken agreement" people in power tend to have with eachother, but both have chosen to "stay out" of it. Being a House Nicca ain't gonna save you today! "You giving me a WHAT???? Uh??? You CAN'T be serious! But I....I...WURX for da' Pre-Zo-Dent! I....I'm da Surgeon General !

Daniel You don’t understand how Influencers work. Also how many people watched Power who don’t smoke Blunts or read 48 Laws of Power. Just like with Trump you don’t recognize his horizontal or vertical presence. 50 Cent is a smart man. Intelligent man. And a good businessman as far as I can tell. And yes he IS influencial. But the people HE has influence over are generally not involved in the political process....lol. They don't give a damn WHO gets in office. They are focused on entertainment and most likely dabbling in criminal activities trying to be like him. (not saying that 50 is still involved in criminal activities). Don't get your hopes up too high. 50 Cent made that statement on twitter in support of Trump out of an EMOTIONAL reaction. Like most rich people, he doesn't want to see more of his money being eaten up in taxes. Besides lower taxes, he's probably ignorant on every other issue Trump and the Republicans stand for. He's only looking out for HIMSELF. He even ADMITTED that he didn't care if Trump didn't like Black people!!!!!! He doesn't care about other Black folks or whether or not they are in the bull's eye with these racists...as long as more dollars aren't being picked out of HIS pocket! It was an impulsive statement made by an intelligent but selfish negro out of ignorance.

Daniel Show me a country where all the treatment and medicine are free and of the same quality as the United States? Based on what I've heard from others, England and quite possibly China. Also based on what I've heard....Cuba has free treatement and medicine and their quality is SUPERIOR to the United States, especially where AfroAmericans and AfroCubans are compared. But this is only based on what I've heard from others....I haven't had an opportunity to directly observe it one way or another. How many people who recognize 50 cent recognize Buffet? Lol..... And how many people who recognize and look up to 50 Cent can actually be counted on to put their blunts down and actually go vote for somebody....let alone enage in any other political activity???? "Alright playaz and playettz.......... Yall muufuuz know we got a Senate race and County Sheriff election coming up in a minute.....right? Right? So....uh....get on dat shit."

Lol.... Man, why are you always grinning in your pictures and videos? Seeing that pallet of shrink wrapped boxes just gave me a flashback of past warehouse jobs. I can still feel the tough texture of the plastic I'd cut and pull open to receive products. We can, and should, build on the web and in the real world. As my West Indian brothers would say, that's the LIVING truth!

Troy and that is a staggering piece of information to any one who cared about human life! That statement speaks for itself. I never would have guessed this could be a thing! That people could be so vacuous of reason and compassion for other humans. Context will only take a man so far.....lol. I had to look up "vacuous". Lol, you're from HARLEM but didn't know some people could be so callous and cold blooded? This is why PHYSICAL PUNISHMENT is necessary for some people. Trying to appeal to their reasoning or empathy simply doesn't work with some people because they HAVE NO reasoning or empathy.....lol. Like wild dogs, some psychopaths will commit crimes as long as the opportunity presents itself and the punishment doesn't cause them real discomfort. "I think I've finally figured it out now! I shouldn't have shot that woman because those pesky bullets hurt!"

Know what would benefit "seasoned citizens" even more? Universal Healthcare where all treatment and medication would be absolutely free! It's something that MOST Americans want but neither the Republi-pigs nor the Demon-crats have offered. Instead, the Demo-craps offer some half-ass program that FORCES you to buy health insurance from corporations And the Repug-nicans aren't offering a DAMN thing....except their "thoughts and prayers" after you drop dead. "Is it time to go yet? No, no...I'm just asking. The rain's starting to pick up again."

Troy Really? Why is this not more widely known and used to benefit society? It's too powerful and too important for widespread distribution and placed in the hands of fools and clowns. Look at the internet and how making IT widely available has worked out....lol. Are human beings any better off? Think of all the people you know who suffer from cancer, autism, or Covid 19 and other problems.......or have loved ones who do. Now..... Do they use the internet to research medicine, herbs and look for CURES to solve these problems? Or do they go on to social media and fight, slander, gossip, and waste time all day and all night? Your son has autism and instead of researching for a treatment.....you're spending time TWERKING and posting it on Instagram. "Like that...like that....oh..oh... from da' back!" It's not knowledge that's the issue but the INTENT of the people and where their minds are. Distributing more knowledge to people without the WISDOM to use it is just asking for disaster.

Troy If things go as I expect them to, polygamy will be a STAPLE of our community as early as late next year.....because we as AfroAmericans will be much more liberated to practice it. While I do believe this civilization will end, it wont be because of who people choose to love... I will be for the exact opposite reason. I'm not 100% sure but...... In the future civilization.....OUR future Civilization at least....polygamy as well as homosexuality will be much better understood. But homosexuality and bisexuality will be put in their PROPER perspective. The key to this is TRUE sexual liberation where consenting adults are free to sleep with and unite with whomever they want. When this is TRULY allowed instead of being regulated and manipulated....the natural order of things will take shape. When African people are left alone to follow our natural desires, we will see peace and harmony and a more well balanced family structure. The reason you're not seeing among our people right now is because our community is being heavily manipulated from OUTSIDE forces who are purposely trying to destablize the Black family. But when those forces are no longer strong enough to do it....you'll see our natural society balance restored.

I understand that now. I understand how someone who is new to a society and doesn't have a lot of connections outside of their family and ethnic community wouldn't want to jeopardize that or take the chance of messing themselves up....especially women who tend to be less bold and more timid. When I used to complain about why so many immigrant women didn't expand their horizons and sleep with Black men it was explained to me that most AfroAmerican men didn't have much to offer them IF their community rejected them as a result of their sexual escapade. If a Somali woman chose an AfroAmerican boyfriend and got rejected by her community, chances are that AfroAmerian boyfriend didn't have a job to offer her or a house of his own that she could stay in; so why even take that risk. That made a lot of sense to me and I became more understanding after that.

Most of these Gangsta Rappers are some of the BIGGEST sell-outs AfroAmerica has ever seen. I've been saying that for years. The same negroes who would sell poison to the community and harm little children just to stuff a few dollars in their pockets. The same negroes who will KNOWINGLY rap about killing and shooting other Black people for the pleasure of Caucasian record executives just to make them more money. ....is there any suprise that they'd sell their own people out or support racist Republicans for economic gain? They are SELL-OUTS. They are the SAME type of Africans who would have sold their own brothers, sisters, and children into slavery to enrich themselves. Cube is a LITTLE more conscious than most Gangster Rappers, but he is a founding member of NWA....a tool that was instrumental in criminalizing the Black youth of America. 50 Cent actually CALLS himself a "gorilla" and other Black men is rap group gorillas. So I'm not surprised at all. Most of these Gangsta Rappers are actually WORSE than the Black preachers. Atleast when the Black preacher sells out he doesn't promote crime and violence and PRETENDS to promote righteousness.....these niccaz don't even care. The Black preacher takes your money....THESE niccaz are taking lives and encouraging others to do so.

Troy I grew up with the undertanding that "shellac" is what men did to their nails. It was just putting clear nail polish on them. Not sure if they did this in New York, but when I was a kid Black men who were professional card players and Pimps would get their nails filed and "shellacked" as part of their grooming. Manicures were frequent among men. As weak as Obama may have been, surely you can appreciate that he is more desirable than 45, right? It may sound counter intuitive given my political and social leanings......but in line with what I've been saying on here for the past few months: NO. I'm glad Trump is in office and I hope he STAYS in office (regardless as to who is actually elected) until the job I BELIEVE he was put in to do is complete. I didn't understand it in 2016, but now it's as clear as a cloudless day.