Pioneer1

Well, I can tell you that Climate Change is more of a Caucasian argument than that of AfroAmericans. The ecology and climate change ARE important issues, but most Black people around the planet are so focused on SURVIVING and getting their basic needs met they don't have time or money to travel to the North Pole to measure how much ice has melted. White folks can afford to argue this because they have too much money and free time. Like that angry white girl from from Sweden.....Greta....who stood up at the UN crying and shaking over the environment. Infact, I got into an argument with a White woman and a bunch of other people who tried to come to her rescue over some damn DUCKS a couple nights ago during a local townhall meeting about politics and what to ask Kamala Harris when she comes back this week. It was during the question and answer period and she wanted to take up 30 or 40 minutes "demanding" that we address her concerns about Canadian ducks drinking water from polluted lakes in Michigan. Who cares about Covid 19 Who cares about police brutality. Who cares about jobs. Who cares about the Black children in Flint and what kind of water they're drinking ....let's talk about some ducks in a lake and what kind of water THEY'RE drinking! Man we all got into it and we almost ended up going to the parking lot! Here's a middle aged Caucasian woman with plenty of money, plenty of time on her hands, a nice big home, and probably no husband (not there atleast...unless he was hiding from all the action), with nothing better to do than devote her life to squeezing into tight jeans and driving to events to raise hell about some ducks in a lake!

It presented a long laundry list of things it was going to do to contain the brothas, Like promoting homosexuality (which I'm not necessarily opposed to, but recongize it HAS been weaponized to use against our community) and introducing more mind-altering drugs to Black boys (like Ritalin) for alleged behavioral problems.....to name just a couple. They've been planning on this for DECADES. They were planning on destroying the Black man's ability to support himself and his family when they eradicated the manufacturing jobs that most Black men relied on. White men had power and wealth, but we were steadily GAINING UP on him right up until 1980! If you notice, right before the late 70s Black men were making economic, political, and social progress at ROCKET speed! Everytime a White man walked through a door to go to work, a Black man with a doo-rag on his head was walking in too with a big ass lunch-pail full of cornbread. Everytime a White man looked up or looked out his door a Black man was moving into the house across the street. Everytime he drove down the street, a nigga was driving PAST him in the opposite direction in a brand new car grinning with a gold tooth in his mouth. "Da' womenz stick to me like fly paper, neighbor!" Too many White women are seeing successful Black men and more and more of them were LEAVING White men and running off with Black men. White men felt they had to do something about that. They all got together and decided to send most of those jobs overseas. I tell people that White Supremacy is GOVERNMENT. When I talk about White Supremacists, some people think of a couple of rednecks drinking beer talking trash while sitting in the back of a pick-up truck somewhere in the woods They don't understand that White Supremacy is a well organized SYSTEM. These people sit around all day and all night year in and year out thinking up various ways to DOMINATE and CONTROL people of color; and they especially target AfroAmericans.

Mel Gibson may be a racist, but he did give us something we can appreciate.............. A movie I recommend EVERYBODY see if they haven't already is a great movie called APOCALYPTO. Watch Apocalypto Here! It's about life among the ancient Mayan Indians of the Mayan Empire before they were colonized by the Spaniards. They used REAL Mayan Indians from southern Mexico to make the movie. And pay attention to how dark and brown so many of them are with broad noses, thick lips, and straight jet black hair. Those are ORIGINAL people...like us. And the coolest thing about the movie is that not only is it NOT in English, there aren't even any subtitles....but it's so powerful that STILL can keep up with what's going on and love it!

Gibran The country wanted Hillary. The country got Trump. Same thing in 2000. In both cases, the popular vote fueled by black voter turnout had no effect on the final outcome. Vote. Another thing both elections had in common was the fact that BOTH Gore and Clinton refused to fight and readily decided to CONCEDE the election despite overwhelming evidence of voter suppression and fraud. Which tells me that neither of them were sincere about seeking the office and it also gives me a pretty good indication of how they would easily capitulate to Republican demands had they GOTTEN in the office anyway. If, as you contend, the government does not give us rights, where do they come from? An argument can be made for God-given rights, but every right, real or imagined, in this country stemmed from either law or constitution. As such, they are enforceable due to the power of the government to punish. Laws must be accompanied with the power to enforce them. Otherwise ,they are meaningless. Excellent point! I wouldn’t ask black people to leave the church just because the portrait they worship of a blond-haired, blue-eyed Jesus is as wrong as two-left shoes. I would....lol. I used to literally STAND OUTSIDE of various Black churches telling our brothers and sisters to stay the hell out of those brainwashing temples of doom. Especially if they have a picture of a White "Jesus" and angels inside. But even if there are no pictures, the brainwashing has the same effect. I wouldn't expect blacks to stop going to school because of the deliberate lies that doctor history. I wouldn't either. But I WISH they would....lol. They SHOULD stop going to public schools ran and/or designed by Caucasians because they're not helping our people for the most part but since so many of our peoplep have so much faith in the Caucasian's educational system....I don't expect them to.

Big Pharma is CERTAINLY seeing overwhelming success during this Plandemic Pandemic.

Don't discount the power of suspicion.............. Come on Troy, you know this government and the media has a well known and well documented history of LYING to the public about things both great and small. A healthy suspicion is warranted.

Troy When people join a church and start to believe that the Earth is 6,000 years old and now have to believe that Dinosaurs and man romanced the earth that the same time to make their time scales work is that brain washing? Yes. If it were drilled into them repeatitively and they accept it without critically thinking. Brainwashed is just a more colloquial term for conditioning or programming. Most Black and poor/working classed Whites who belong to and support the Republican party are BRAINWASHED by media outlets like Fox News and Conservative radio. Doesn't mean they're evil. Doesn't mean they're stupid. They are just victims like an abused spouse who got trapped in a relationship and can't find a way out.

Just imagine if our Black Communities received Israel's outlay of $20 billion a year in materiel, cash, grants and deferred payments. I've often thought of how unfair this is myself. However I must ask, are there any AfroAmerican communities currently who are QUALIFIED to handle getting that much money and support? We can have a 40 year discussion as to whether or not the U.S. should be giving Israel anything. But the fact that they seem to put their foreign aid to good use helping to fortify and build up their nation. Many of these African regimes get foreign aid and it goes directly to the pockets of the dictators, their mistresses, and foreign bank accounts while the masses of their people remain in dire poverty. From what I've heard and seen (in the media) Israel doesn't do IT'S OWN citizens like that. They may mistreat the Palestinians....but they treat their own Jewish citizens well. We must be QUALIFIED to receive that kind of money. Which means we must be properly organized and have a practical knowledge of economics, sociology, and urban planning so that if we ARE granted so large of an amount we can use it effectively.

Troy I know that you are not dumb or ignorant about Covid-19. At the time the only other reasonable conclusion was that you were intentionally trying to be deceptive. I failed to appreciate that you truly believe what you wrote, that is not lying. I'll have to find a word to describe it the spreading false information believed to be true. Maybe there is no word for this in our language... How about BRAINWASHED? Lol....is THAT the word you're looking for?

Something doesn't smell too Kosher around here....... Stefan First you come in calling yourself a Black man but BASHING Black men at every turn you get while and praising Black women. Then you make questionable statements about how great Trump is doing among AfroAmericans. Then when questioned on it, you get hyper sensitive and set up several strawman accusations of personal attacks and persecution. After my previous post explaining myself to you, most men who are sincere and emotionally balanced would reconcile with me by giving ATLEAST a lame-ass: "Yeah, whatever man....we're good" ......before moving on. But not only do you refuse to but you double-down on your feelings of persecution. You CLAIM to be a senior citizen..... But I don't remember meeting ANYONE who's made it past 60 years old in THIS world.....especially as a Black man.....who is THAT sensitive and paranoid as to what others say or think of them. Again, something just ain't right. But if I were as immature as you CLAIM I was, I'd tell you to stop acting like STEVE URKLE * ....and start acting more like a Stefan Urquelle, lol. Troy @Troy I'm not surprised, for there is science to explain this flaw in our reasoning. It has to do with "moral certainly." Basically, when you believe something is right, data, science, statistics, expert knowledge -- none of it matters when you are in this state. It is why covidiots and climate denier sso easily reject science changing their life style by wearing a mask or using less fossil fuel is an affront to their civil liberties -- to which they have a God-given right. I don't reject SCIENCE or FACTS. I reject much of the information coming from CAUCASIANS because they have a long and documented history of LYING to the public and especially to people of color. Which is why I would rather rely on anecdotal evidence and PERSONAL OBSERVATION. I know it's true.... because I WITNESSED IT. .....as opposed to some well dressed White man with a part in his hair TELLING it to me, or writing it down in a text book. Stats are just numbers, you BELIEVE them because you're trained to....but you don't KNOW that they are true. *It's hard to believe Family Matters ENDED over 25 years ago! I miss that show. You don't see Black families portrayed like that today.

Stefan We may not know that until the voting numbers and analyzed and sifted. Even THEN we may not know the truth, because the White Supremacists lie about the numbers they give to the public like they lie about everything else. If you know only one Black person who is going to vote for Trump, I don't know what to make of that. I said I can count them on ONE HAND. Unless you frequently borrow money from the Mafia knowing damn well you can't pay them back...most people have more than ONE finger on their hands, lol. If we Black reporters had had Mentors back in the 80's, a lot of us would have stayed in the business. But most of us get drummed out by racism, overbearing and biased editors or White folks who should have never been allowed in a news room in the first place. But they knew somebody. I've heard this from several AfroAmerican reporters. This is why I've said for decades that we need OUR OWN media institutions as AfroAmericans. We can also work for Caucasian companies, but we still need our own as home bases. Black males working as news anchors are especially targeted by racists both in the newsroom AND the racist viewers at home because like most people on television they are good looking and articulate and this makes a lot of Caucasian men jealous as hell. White men HATE it when AfroAmerican men make THEM feel inferior....lol. Which is why they'll get rid of an intelligent handsome Black man but keep a stupid buffoon who tells "ghetto hood stories" on the job for years despite always screwing up and coming in late. He'll NEVER get fired. Because HE'S the type of negro who makes the White guys look good. "You know what, I'm sorry I'm late man. I smokededed too much weed last night. Been going through a lot with the baby mama drama and shit ....na'm saying???" What disappointed me about you, Pioneer is how quickly you lost your temper and resorted to personal attacks. That’s silly. I simply presented a thread starter and like a lot of people who disagree, but never investigate, you got hot. Got news for you sir..... I haven't lost my temper on this site in YEARS..lol. I'm not sure how I come across on the screen but I'm having fun running my mouth about a lot of subjects. I don't take my relationships with most of the people I come across online serious enough to get angry with them.....lol. I have a heavy handed way of expressing myself, even in disagreement. I may disagree with you from time to time but just like with Daniel, I mean no malice. If I were angry with you, trust me....you'd know it because Troy would have to step in, lol.

Troy maybe they have bidets at home. Come on bruh..... Does SHE ...look like the type of person who has a BIDET (or even a working toilet) in the place she lays her head down at night?

Del If you are ranked #4 in the nation there aren't a lot of Universities that are better than you there are three. If you are ranked 11 in the world again there are a lot of Universities that are worse than better. Well let's not mix it up, let's be accurate..... I didn't simply say "better" but said a MORE THOROUGH EDUCATION. Yale is near the top when it comes to PRESTIGE and CONTACTS, but I just showed you several links to many other schools that had better ACADEMIC PROGRAMS depending on what profession you want to go in. If you are ranked 11 in the world again there are a lot of Universities that are worse than better. .....according to the link YOU provided, but not the ones I provided. Furthermore, if we're talking about a BAG OF SKITTLES .....maybe 7 or 8 wouldn't be considered a "lot". But when we're talking about actual INSTITUTIONS.....lol....what number constitutes a "lot" to you? If someone told me they had 7 businesses, I would say that's a LOT of businesses! So I give first hand experiences, while you use a ranking and then you misinterpret the results. Stoooop Delano, stop....... You don't have "first hand experience" because you weren't EDUCATED at Yale in order to compare it's quality to any other. You were allowed to sit in on and witness ONE CLASS in session (if you promised to sit down and keep quiet) and that's about as far as YOUR experiences with Yale go. You dug up an article and posted a link that supports YOUR argument just like I did.....lol....so let's be fair.

What kind of movies is THIS, with no nudity? I was looking forward to seeing who was going to play Michelle.....lol. They should rate this movie P (for Prescription only, because it'll put your ass to sleep.

Voting Day? So who are you going to vote for: SATAN or LUCIFER No matter which devil ends up getting in, you're STILL gonna end up catching hell. "Look on the bright side. Atleast you no longer have to worry about social distancing!"

This may be an example of what I was talking about in the other thread about the various arts taught in so-called Egyptian "Mystery Schools" and how it isn't necessarily applicable to African people. Tarot card reading...... While originating in Kemet, may not be for OUR people. Atleast not the version practiced in Western esoteric systems. The same with a lot of this so-called "astrology" that so many of our people engage in. Astrology is real and is an actual science when WE practice it....but we can't just copy the Caucasian's version of it and expect it to be effective. Like I said in the other thread..... A lot of what you're calling magic and occultism was designed BY US FOR CAUCASIANS. We gave him a WEAKER and more WATERED DOWN version of it in those Mystery schools (we didn't call them that btw....that's what THEY call them because EVERYTHING is a mystery to a new man on the planet) . We have our OWN sciences and ways of doing things based on OUR chemistry, DNA, and psychological make up and soul-history. Trying to use HIS "magic" and occult sciences is like the parents having milk and cereal for breakfast just like the children, lol.

Troy Of course, you got white women claiming to be Black just for kicks. You may be just joking, but actually that's TRUE. Neely Fuller Jr. teaches that White Supremacists do a lot of harmful and deceptive things simply for FUN and to test their smarts. Just like some White men love hunting and killing animals even though they don't need the meat. Some White folks just love to trick and fool Black people to test their own smarts and play mind games....for fun. Pretend to be Black online...or put on make-up and pretend to be Black for FUN just to see how many Black people they can trick. Sometimes it's business. Sometimes it's for FUN. Now they might pay us what they owe, with a one way ticket back to Africa. That would be much more palatable to the White racist, and white folks in general, I'm sure. And give away OUR country (not the government, the land) ? Hell no! I'll go back to Africa for DUAL CITIZENSHIP and land ownership. But if these clowns think they're going to DRIVE me or any other AfroAmericans away from the land our ancestors fought for, shed their literal blood, sweat, and tears in, and even died on......they are out of their goddam minds! Try to make OUR people leave America and their won't BE an America left for anyone else to enjoy.....lol. Whatever people are left will have time to think about the severe mistake they made as they row their sorrowful asses away from the smokin' ruins to Greenland or the Carribean. "Damn dude.... I didn't think it was gonna be that serious. Maybe we should have done things another way. Like maybe offering them atleast a piece of the land." "Jeez... Just shut up and row. I don't feel like talking about it right now." Walkman93 On top of the naturally dark skinned Native Americans...... There are actually AFRICAN (Black) people hear in the Americas who had been hear living among the Native Americans for thousands of years. When Cortez and Columbus came here they talked about seeing entire villages and groups of "Negroes" among the Natives. Infact, the Olmec were said to have been Black. There are giant heads of African soldiers in Southern Mexico When I went to Oaxaca in Mexico, all the natives were my color (and very short. Like incredibly short but that's outside the point). I know what you're talking about. I used to ride the Greyhound bus a lot from Detroit to the West Coast for adventure and vacation and would from time to time run across Native American reservations in Arizona and New Mexico. The Natives would get on the bus and the adults were so small TWO MEN could easily hop up on and sit on one seat! Small people...but strong as hell. Native Americans (the real ones) are ORIGINAL people just like Africans.

I think we as AfroAmericans should: 1. Those with the financial ability should do more RISK TAKING investing in various African economies not EXPECTING any major returns until things are improved to satisfactory levels. 2. Those with little to lose in the United States should consider migrating to various African nations PERMANENTLY in order to "pollenate" certain places...not for colonization like the British or Chinese.....but to establish a more fertile environment for AfroAmericans who DO want to relocate or just enjoy dual citizenship to feel comfortable doing so in. I'm not wealthy, don't own my own home, and don't have children in school.....I don't have a whole lot to lose in the United States. The only concern about Africa is it's standard of healthcare, and the global Pandemic seems to be making sub-Saharan Africa MORE ATTRACTIVE by the month when we look at the figures coming out of Western nations. It's about about using our creativity and not succumbing to limitation and narrow-minded thinking. Who says the standard Caucasian way is the ONLY way to do things?

Stefan So..... Trump tells White Supremacists to "stand by" and his Black support INCREASES??? LMBAO!!! There are no hard numbers, but there is certainly anecdotal evidence of what I wrote. Well, you may be surprised to know that I actually put more value in ANEDOTAL EVIDENCE than I do statistics. Anecdotes are based on personal experiences (presuming they are true), where as stats are merely snatched from documents put together by faceless contributors. Despite all of this "Black Trump support" I'm hearing on television and all over the internet...... I know THOUSANDS of AfroAmericans personally and can count on ONE HAND the number who said they'll actually vote for him.

Daniel........ Actually I AGREE with you! However I don't recall you mentioning that mixed people have historically been used by the White Supremacists to help dominate and control the darker masses. That is my position....but I thought you OPPOSED that belief and thought it was divisive.

Del Perhaps someone else will answer the question Perhaps. But why should someone ELSE bear the burden of answering a question meant for YOU? FAS True dat. When I was in a Chemistry class in college, the professor in a bid to "wow" his students, said that ancient Egyptian scientists (trained in the Mystery Schools, I might add) calculated the distance from the earth to the moon to be 238,848 miles.. Then solemnly, he said: "But they were wrong. MODERN science has shown that the distance between earth and the moon is 238, 855 miles." The only thing I would add is it is MY understanding that the so-called "Mystery Schools" of Kemet that Western Historians refer to wasn't meant for Africans, but for Caucasians. You see....while Musa initially went up to the caves to civilize Caucasians and give them BASIC knowledge...... Some of the exceptionally smart savages were taken OUT of the caves and brought back to Kemet to be taught ADVANCED knowledge (advanced for them) to become the leaders of Caucasian civilization. These are special schools and the educational system was especially designed to teach and initiate Caucasian leaders. "If we give you the knowledge to rule over the Earth for a limited period of time.... Do you swear the oath to keep it secret from the other savages?" The average beer guzzling White man you see walking around don't get THIS knowledge. Only the very smartest LEADERS of White Supremacy do. But it's still only a fraction of our overall knowledge. While not in "Destruction..." (lol), I found this interesting. The Japanese may have been the first to teach whites the martial arts, but Africans were the first to teach the Japanese those very same martial arts. There is a Japanese proverb that goes; Absolutely. Infact, the VERY first people on the island of Nippon (Japan) WERE Black. They were of the same stock as the little Negrito people found through out Vietnam and Phillipines. "You got something in that bag for us??" We taught THEM like we taught the Caucasian. Our people just forgot it and moved on. Kind of like BREAK DANCING. We invented it, but while it's still popular in Japan.....Negroes in America have forgotten about something THEY invented and just want to flop around on the couch all day smoking weed. "Hey babe.... There was something I 'posed to be doing But I forgot what it wuzzz!"

Del -Pioneer Harvard Princeton and Yale are the yardsticks that other universities are measured against. They are the equivalent of Oxford and Cambridge. -Every university has a profile and a speciality. -BTW there is a difference between College and University. You just gave me 3 unsolicited bits of information that are all IRRELEVANT to my question. Yale University is consistently listed in the top 20 overall in the world. Ok. Then that means that there are potentially 19 OTHER Universities that are BETTER at educating. perhaps you should ask a few educators. They may be able to help you understand why Princeton is consistently top 20 in the World. But the "educators" aren't on here arguing with me and calling me wrong, lol. YOU are. Why should I drive down to a University and bother some poor professor with a series of silly questions about Princeton? "Sure, uh...... can I help you with something?" You said my statement was a mistake implying that it was wrong, and I'm asking you WHAT EVIDENCE do you have that my statement was wrong? Delay-No-More Delano...I'd like an ANSWER to my question BEFORE the U.S. Presidential Election please.

Tariq Nasheed talks about these $5 Indian PRETENDERS who are not REAL Native Americans......

Daniel Grass can be brown, white, yellow, red and Blue. Sky can be red, yellow and black. I said THE grass. I said THE sky. The definite article "the" specifies a PARTICULAR subject (to ensure accuracy). I was talking about a PARTICULAR grass and sky. .....since you like to play word games and run down rabbit holes.

Del I was addressing your first point. What school in your mind gives a better education than Yale. I visited Yale and went to NYU for Grad School. I had class with a Harvard Undergrad, and had chats with a Grad Student from MIT, I had a few friends at Northeastern University. Well, according to these figures that recommend the BEST Universities for each profession: If I want to be a Doctor: https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-medical-schools/research-rankings If I want to be a Civil Engineer: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-doctorate-civil If I want to be an Officer in the Military: https://www.operationmilitarykids.org/top-15-military-colleges-in-the-u-s/ Infact, according to these sources Yale doesn't even make it in the TOP 10 for best Universities. With that being said, now let me ask YOU a question.............. When I said that a lot of Universities give a more thorough education than Yale, you said I was "mistaken". You certainly can't disagree with me based on your EXPERIENCE because you didn't actually GO to Yale. Your experience with Yale is that of being placed in a corner and told to sit down and be quiet to witness a class in session during a visit...lol. So what evidence do YOU have that my statement was wrong?