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"Holy ravioli Batman, look.... it's a PROJECTION!" .....lol.

FAS The question had nothing to do with 'success.' The question was about intelligence, specifically, which owner is MORE intelligent Which is why I SAID: " however given ONLY the information you provided I would have to say #1. Simply because you say they are SATISFIED and LIVED WELL. That is success as far as I'm concerned. And if you are smart enough to be successful in what you're doing and manage to live a well life, you are very intelligent in my opinion." . Had I known nothing about you at all, I would know you are of the "I am because WE are" culture - homing in on the employees happy and with a living wage - rather than the "I think therefore I am" culture (it's all about me and my desires); Ofcourse...... Most Black people are because it's in our NATURE, not just our various "cultures" which are merely a REFLECTION of our innate natures. Here's why...... Nearly all AfroAmericans pretty much practice a CAUCASIAN based culture that may have many different influences and innovations but is STILL primarily of British/Germanic background. Yet, unlike most Caucasians whom you've pointed out have an "it's all about me.... fuck the rest-a-yall" attitude...most AfroAmericans instinctively look at things from a collectivist point of view and are concerned about others in the community. How would you explain this difference even though BOTH groups (Caucasian Americans and AfroAmericans) were born and raised in the same nation practicing the same general culture? So the reasons for these differences isn't cultural so much as it's having to do with their being two different NATURES as two different racial groups. Denigrating employees, paying them poorly, all the while amassing GREAT wealth from their labor - black culture says you're a pig and deserve to die. Denigrating employees, paying them poorly, all the while amassing GREAT wealth from their labor - white culture says you're a success, one to be emulated, I understand the point you're making, but I think you're confusing innate NATURE with "culture". You speak of "Black culture" and "White culture" as if they are monolithic. There are MANY vastly different cultures even among Africans.....as well as among Caucasians. Much of YOUR point deal less with actual CULTURE (diet, dress, music, ect....) and more with the very sociological and pyschological make-up of the people themselves that go DEEPER than mere cultural upbringing and whether or not my people eat RICE as opposed to PASTA. The NATURE of a people goes beyond culture and reaches to the very reasons for their existence. African people and Caucasian people EXIST for two different purposes, and this is subconsciously KNOWN by most Caucasians...which drives them to do what they do regardless of which culture they may find themselves in. The Caucasian ARAB is just as racist and exploitational as the Christian MORMON. The exploitational and hateful behavior of Caucasians has little to do with "culture" and more to do with an inner psychological drive to dominate and mistreat people of color. Which is why no matter WHAT "culture" you drop Caucasians off in...their behavior will pretty much be the same. A high intelligence just gives them the ABILITY to carry out those exploitational and hateful tendencies with exceptional successfulness. But I have to admit that was a pretty slick operation you pulled off to make your point.

"Well I can pretty much say with confidence that it doesn't matter who wins the election, at this point. I'm gonna remain beautiful under either Administration." .....lol.

In the immortal words of Master P.... "I'm 'bout it! I BEEN 'bout it!" I've been recommending this site to people for years. I rarely mention this actual discussion board, but the site itself get's much respect. It's actually becoming more and more popular because as time goes on I've ran into more people who already know about AALBC when I bring it up to them. "Oh, you're talking about that Black book site? Yeah, I fuck with them sometimes when I have to order a book I need for class." A LOT of people know about this site. If I had the money I would establish an endowment for Troy's AALBC and a number of other AfroAmerican businesses that I feel are essential for our community. Davey D and his online Hiphop archive is another brother who needs to be endowed and supported. We should have an institution that just sends so many hundreds or thousands a month to our iconic establishments to ensure they continue to operate smoothly and grow. That's what a lot of Jewish people do with THEIR institutions. Just GIVE them money to stay afloat and prosper, that's all. Not necessarily expecting anything else in return besides the peace of mind to know you're still around. This is a totally different subject than the one you started the thread over but let me briefly say, when we speak of the Great Reset.....understand that it means different things to different people. Kind of like the "New World Order". The chaos that many experts are expecting as a result of this election mixed with the Covid 19 policies WILL bring about a Great Reset in this nation but while the White Supremacists are expecting an opportunity to consolidate their power....I strongly believe that in this period WE (AfroAmericans) are the ones who will prevail. The Great Reset will benefit US as AfroAmericans. While White Supremacy will continue to exist around the globe in OTHER places for quite some time- I believe....don't know....that atleast in the United States White Supremacy will end up destroying much of it OWN self from in-fighting which will allow US to emerge as the new rulers of this particular land. It's not far off either.

Gibran It's like the adage that if, as an entertainer, you can make it at the Apollo, you can make it anywhere Great analogy. This is one of the reasons I wish Showtime AT The Apollo was still on. That rowdy crowd was a REAL litmus test as to how great you are. Besides, I kind of miss Kiki Shepard. That girls was like...70 years old....and still walking out on stage in sexy outfits, lol. We have this thing we like to ponder about if you put a hustler in the jungle and a corporate brother, the street brotha would survive (What do you think?) It's like the question FAS asked in another thread, there are a lot of variable unmentioned that would really help in making a more accurate determination. However with the limited information given, I would have to say the STREET brother because he's probably more prepared both physically AND mentally. He probably came from poverty and not having much to eat. He probably won't panic too much over dying since he's probably faced death a few times and his confidence is built up. And he most likely has experience killing, lol. Another thing about violent people and violent acts, and this probably relates more to those in PRISON than those on the STREETS since prison often grabs people from various walks of life........ Many violent people are violent not JUST because of how they grew up or what they were forced to do, but because of certain brain chemistries and testosterone levels. I knew kids back in elementary school who were stabbing people. Some were from good homes, others weren't. It was just "in" them. If being violent and cold blooded is "in" you then no matter how well you were raised, what environment you find yourself in, or how old you are.....it'll come out one way or another. I'm sure in the pen you ran into killers who came from pretty middle class backgrounds. They didn't kill over dope or any hustle games, but over petty disputes and hot tempers. It was just "in" them. Get up in face of the wrong sissy. You can talk shit and ridicule his sexual preference but when you go too far, you gonna find yourself in a fight but not with someone who fights like a girl. You find out you're fighting a real man who got real skills with his hands. Sweet Thang be done reverted back to instinct and you dealing with a monster. First we would have to have a common definition of "sissy". Most guys use the term for ANY homosexual man, but after years of having lived in Atlanta and running across a variety of sexual orientations....lol...I've learn to separate them into categories. It seems to me that you have 2 major categories of homosexual men: 1. Gay men who act like MEN. 2. Gay men who act like WOMEN. There are a lot of hard core masculine brothers walking around who are as gay as a rainbow....but you wouldn't know it based ONLY on his day to day behaviors. He looks and acts like any other man, but he likes dick....lol. It's the gay men who act like WOMEN that I call "sissies". He's the one walking around snapping and switching and talking with a "lisp". "Uh-uhhhhh baby... You can't out run ALL of us!" BTW..... I've also learned that just because a man acts like a woman it doesn't necessarily mean he's gay. Took me a while to believe it, but I realized it was true. A lot of men talk with lisps, act feminine and lady like but LOVE women and can't get enough. For whatever reasons a part of his brain was activated that influences him to act more like a woman than a man. I've never been in prison, but based on my conversations with those who have it seems that a lot of men are BI-SEXUAL They like both men AND women. But they don't realize this UNTIL they end up in prison and after sexual encounters with other men, discover they like it. They too can be either feminine or masculine. But having said all that..... Ofcourse, it goes without saying a gay dude can kick ass about as good as any straight one. It just depends on the person, their strength, skill, courage, and other factors. All of what I just laid out also applies to women, btw.

I admit I do that a lot. However, I've learned from experiences that if you just let people talk long enough you'll eventually get the answers you want from them AND MORE, lol.

FAS The question was not about the employees being satisfied or not. By "they" being satisfied I was referring to owner #1. You said they were satisfied and lived well off of their profits. Anyway....I gave MY answer. Troy FAS I can't tell which owner is more intelligent, but I can tell you I would like to be the owner of and work for company #1. That's what I'm saying...... It's hard to make an ACCURATE assessment of which is more intelligent with such a limited amount of information about them. If the goals of both owners was to maximize wealth, controlling for all other variables, one could easily argue owner #2 is more intelligent given she is more successful at generating more more profits. But according to FAS's scenario "long term" stategies weren't a consideration....only the here and now. If we were to figure what would be the most intelligent LONG TERM strategy I would easily say #1 because treating your employees properly is the wisest strategy for long term success because it keeps things stable....but it didn't matter in this scenario. America is optimized to encourage owner #2's, which is one reason wealth disparity is so high, workers are under so much strife, and our best and brightest clamor work for the likes of Facebook. True. Which is why the U.S. economy is under a perpetual state of collapse and must depend on usually harder working and/or better educated IMMIGRANT labor from Latin America, India, and East Asia to provide a continuous supply of workers to fill in the vacancies left by U.S. citizens who no longer capable of performing for various reasons.

I said he stabbed them, but he didn't kill either one......as far as I know. But even at his age, he was still a physically firm dude so he still had the strength to do it! But according to those who knew about it, no.....it wasn't necessarily self defense it was an argument over business and somebody lying. He got locked up (again....he was locked up in his early youth but was free for OVER 60 years) so I wasn't able to hear from him what actually happened.

Agent Orange is going to cry foul and dispute the election anyway. Del, be glad you're in Australia right about now.....lol.

Gibran Now don't get me wrong. I know there are a lot of strong, intelligent, and thorogh brothers out in the streets as well as on the yard. I realize that. I just caution our people not to put TOO much faith in the gangstaz, thugs, and hustlers to protect them or stand up to authority and fight back if our community was ever attacked. You're expecting the brother on the corner with an Uzi to help you fight back...and he's somewhere hiding under a car! Look at Breonna Taylor and all of the killing of our innocent brothers and sisters that have been going on lately! How many "gangstaz" and street dudes have handled any business in that regard? Breonna Taylor's ex BOYFRIEND was supposedly a big time gangster (he had good taste in women because Breonna was fine as all "get out"....lol ). But he didn't use his connections to do a damn thing about Breonna's death. You mean to tell me they shot one of your women to pieces and you call yourself a "gangster" and all you can do is cry and shake your head about it? Some of these clowns are hard as hell when it comes to other Black people. They'll shoot another Black man simply for looking at him the wrong way at a party, but when a racist kills his own mother while she's driving home from work....he goes on CNN and starts crying. "Ahhhhhhaaaaa..... Why dey do dat??? Why dey shoo her so many times????" Nah..... I ain't putting my faith in these sorry ass niggaz. No sir. The only thing I EXPECT many of them to do is turn around and run away when they start hearing sirens. And if they do anything on the plus side of that I'll be pleasantly surprised and appreciative. They wanted to disrupt our ability to make our own choices and they did this by forcing prisoners to have to get permission to do anything from a phone call, to buying a radio, to getting a job. Everything decision made inside is made for the prisoner or the choice is so limited, it is not much of a choice. Case in point. After ten years in the feds, I had been out about twenty minutes when I went to get something for my dreads. I went inside a store and when I spied all the hair care products, I almost passed out literally. I couldn't breathe. I couldn't think. It was brain overload and due to the extra mental stimulation, I was emotionally distressed. In prison, we only had 3 choices when it came to hair care. And now all this. No lie. I practically ran out of the store. I was unable to choose. Without someone to tell me what to do, I was lost. It takes a while to shake the fog of prison off, and once you understand how dehumanized you have been, the search is on to piece yourself back together. Now that was a VERY deep story right there! You never fail to amaze me in relating your personal experiences and observations! Troy but you will definitely find leaders among these Brothers, if the attribute is nourished. Something mainstream American culture is not too keen on doing. This is true. However they usually have to be caught young....before puberty. In order to drill in the proper values and respect for authority (Black authority) so that their strength and energy can be properly channeled. Or else it will most likely be self destructive. It'll be like trying to take a WOLF and turn him into a Golden Retriever....lol. The Nation of Islam tends to be very successful to a certain extent but in reality that strong SURVIVAL INSTINCT and SELFISH RUTHLESSNESS that the streets tend to instill in a lot of people doesn't really go away. It's only covered up, only to resurface in times of stress. A friend of mine who grew up on the streets of East Oakland and moved to Portland. He live a peaceful life for over 60 years and even owned a couple businesses; but at 83 years old during some sort of dispute he ended up STABBING another man and his brother! That "Oakland ghetto" resurfaced.....lol.

Troy As far as I'm concerned, things are going just fine. Trump is crying foul and saying that the election is a fraud. He's probably going to dispute the election result. He's stirring up his racist red-neck base to cause chaos. Yes sir, things are going EXACTLY in the direction I like them to...so far.

Actually...... I misspoke when I said Caucasians tend to be more self-disciplined. What I actually meant to say was they tend to be emotionally weaker and are less rebellious and strong willed than people of color. They are more RECESSIVE and although not always usually tend to be WEAKER physically and mentally (excluding intelligence). Which means they usually put up LESS RESISTENCE to leadership and following orders. People of color on the other hand....especially those of African and Native American descent...tend to be very emotional and emotionally strong willed and even rebellious at times. Tell a Black man what to do......sometimes he'll start grinning and do the opposite JUST TO SEE what you'll do about it. "Ah nigga what YOU go do about it if I don't? Besides get knocked out?" Sometimes you have to make a couple phone calls and threaten to nuke his entire block just to get him to respect you and cooperate...lol. But it's how a lot of us are! We respect STRENGTH. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said that the Black man was hard headed, stiff necked, and rebellious. Hard to lead in the right direction. People love to criticize Joe Jackson (Michael Jackson's father) and Serena Williams' father because these Black men were seen as abusive and too hard on their children. But most people don't understand that usually a Black father HAS to be hard on his children and whip their ass and instill fear of failure in them and respect for authority in them in this White Supremacist society! A good Black father KNOWS how to tame the strength of that young lion in his house! Whip his son's ass good a few times and threaten to half kill him.....he'll grow up to be a FINE young man! If you try to raise him the way White folks TELL you to....that little nigga'll cut your throat in bed while you're sleeping! You have to know how to FOCUS a Negro's genius or this society will make him use it for self-destructive purposes. We need to stop standing around scratching our heads so much over WHY we act the way we act and do more accepting it and looking for ways to make it work for us. African peoples have a very strong and often times rebellious spirit that requires a STRONG almost dictatorial, charismatic, and flamboyant leader to charm us and force us to keep order and stay in line. You may say this is extreme, but when our emotional power and resilience is channeled in the RIGHT direction we become the most powerful and productive people on Earth! "No no, you got something in your eye. Let me help you get it out!"

Gibran lack folks simply crave a sense of normalcy, however that is perceived. I don't know why. What's so good about "normal" in THIS society for most AfroAmericans that they have such a desire to get back to it? I can understand why most Caucasians want to get back to normal....because normal is GREAT for most of them! They'd rather get Covid 19 and keel over dead, than be forced to wear a mask and put their money making on hold. "Jeez Loueez.... Come on guys, let's open back up! Fer' cryin' out loud.... What's the hold up?" White folks are literally DYING to get back to normal! My question is, what "pot of gold" are niggaz waiting to get back to? Besides more poverty, violence, incarceration, and humiliation? My bad.....OFCOURSE they want to get back to "normalcy" because oppression and humiliation is NORMAL to a slave. Most AfroAmericans have been squared away into a subservient position where nearly ALL of their decisions are made by other people for so long they have been essentially "institutionalized", and some are paralyzed with fear at the thought of a break down in the society that has been sheltering them from responsibility. Mel The quoted is the only part that reminds me of the "Meet the new boss. The same as the old boss," from "Won't get fooled again" by The Who. A society without clearly established rules (morals, laws, ethics, ect....call it what you like) only leads to more confusion and disorder. Perhaps a man feels he should have the right to have sex with any woman who consents to it. But one of the women who consented just HAPPENS to have a violently jealous husband! If there are no well defined rules that are PROPERLY ENFORCED (unlike what we have today) what would prevent that jealous husband from going on a bloody rampage? So yeah, until we reach perfection as a people....we need rules and the proper enforcement of them. FAS Does anyone else have a problem differentiating between the concepts of Culture and Intelligence? Does anyone else (besides you) thinks it even matters? Besides, culture is a REFLECTION of the group's collective intelligence. Usually....... High Intelligence = High Culture Company/business #1: Owner make a good profit, are satisfied with that profit, and live well off their millions. Owner create a workplace environment (culture) where employees are happy and make a living wage. Company/business #2: Owner make billions, and live the lifestyle of the rich and famous off their profits. Owner micro-manage, denigrate and a create a stressful environment (culture) for their employees and, to increase the owners' profits, pay them minimum wage, Which owner is most "intelligent?" Oh, and the question is based on end resutl, which owner is most intelligent, NOT in the future or the long-run, but right now. I'm glad you added that LAST line, it totally affected my response. The "end results" part at the beginning of it was a bit confusing but since only the here-and-now matters to them....it helps by eliminating the consideration of any long term strategies. There are a lot of "unknown" factors about the two owners that would have really helped me to opine which was the more intelligent, however given ONLY the information you provided I would have to say #1. Simply because you say they are SATISFIED and LIVED WELL. That is success as far as I'm concerned. And if you are smart enough to be successful in what you're doing and manage to live a well life, you are very intelligent in my opinion.

Mel When the colonists fought the british for their independence - they didn't change their way of life. There was no complete overthrow of government. They just broke free of their 'mother' and continued much of the same. So although they called it a 'revolution' it wasn't that at all. The U.S. constitution replaced the monarchy with a sovereign state. Ofcourse..... This is why Neely Fuller Jr. says that the System of White Supremacy is the only REAL government on the planet. All of the other so-called governments are just "branches" or extensions of it who may change up their name or label....but the goals and values are the same. The United States and Canada are controlled by the same elite group of White Supremacist "royal" families that control the rest of Europe. And THEY are united in controlling the rest of the planet. I've been saying this for years and have explained this to Africans and Asians who want to argue over when and by what methods their nations gained their so-called "independence" . I ask them how are they independent when they not only rely on their former colonizers for financial assistance and military protection.....but also still maintain the GOVERNMENTAL STRUCTURE that their colonists left in place before physically vacating the land? Anytime your prime ministers, legislators, and judges are STILL wearing blonde wigs: "And now for the question we're all assembled together to ask..... The important question we all want to know..... Which way did the White people go? .....how can you fix your mouth to declare yourself "free and independent"???? Your ass is STILL defacto colonized regardless of what's written down on paper, lol. So we need a totally NEW system. Not just a new government but a new legal, moral, and ethical code. You'll know when the bullshit is coming to an end when the national borders in Africa are being RE-DRAWN based on the historic and traditional ethnic boundaries that existed before colonization. And the laws and morals of each jurisdiction will reflect those pre-colonial laws and morals of the indigenous populations. But that would only be a START. Ultimately there must be a new moral and legal code each group would have to adopt to help them usher in more stable and progressive societies.

Daniel What are you saying I changed from and to? From: Trump Worshipping Children's Books Author To: Wood Chopper, Ditch Digger, and Field Hand "Man..... Wish I woulda saw THIS coming!" .....lol.

This might sound good to some, but this will not happen Not only that..... But a more morally based question that I have is SHOULD it happen? Should private Caucasian individuals and their companies be FORCED to support AfroAmerican "competition"????? .....as opposed to that support coming from FEDERAL funding, which is usually how reparations funding is distributed. In other words... Why would the Federal government who has all of the money in the world at IT'S disposal ask private White individuals to give THEIR money to Black folks? It seems to me that type policy would be only good for whipping up anger and hatred AGAINST those it was intended to help. And perhaps that would be the REAL intention all along. Not to actually HELP AfroAmericans but actually send more hate and resentment their way by suggesting the penalization of "innocent" Caucasians in the name of economic equality. It's has a "defund the police" ring to it. Just like earlier this year people in the media kept talking about defund and dismantle police departments. They had no plans for actually DOING it.....they just publically talked about it over and over again. The only effect it had was causing anger and resentment among police officers. ....which most of us suspect was the REAL intention of even talking about it in the first place.

Troy Yes, I am who do you think was smarter? Let's see...... One man started off as child in poverty and ended up a well polished politician and national leader who single handedly built a short-lived empire and demanded the love, respect, and even loyalty of millions. The other was good at math and could scribble on a black-board all day but was a social eccentric who had trouble making friends, used to make all types of inappropriate gestures in public, and didn't even have enough sense to comb his nappy head before walking out the front door....lol. ((Albert....Albert....don't do that. Just finish the equation please.)) You tell ME who had the most "over all" sense! If you think Hilter was just as smart as Einstein, pick any dumb Nazi you can think of, then make a choice. You can't judge a LEADER by the behavior or intelligence level of a couple followers. There you go again picking out EXCEPTIONS to the rule as a counter argument....lol. Why would you point to a couple of snaggle-toof neonazis walking around in funny jackets and make THEM an example of Hitler's genius or lack there of? Besides, I don't think he was just AS smart as Einstein...I think he was much smarter with a much wholistic overall sense of intelligence. Einstein's smarts was very one sided but the smartest men not only have good academic but also good SOCIAL intelligence and know how to put their book sense and the other information they gather to great PRACTICAL use in the real world to move events and get things accomplished. FAS I guess it beares repeating: You're just repeating a STATEMENT. But I'm asking you for an EXPLANATION OF the statement. In other words.... Why were they ABLE to be the greatest killers and destroy so many civilizations? It couldn't have been simply out of a strong "desire" to do so or a just an inflated sense of self worth ALONE. Hell, there are a lot of people walking around in the streets who think they're Jesus or Napoleon and ain't ruling over a damn thing.....because they don't have enough sense to. In order to accomplish a goal or fulfil a desire you must not only have the desire to do it but the ABILITY to do it! My question for you is, if it wasn't high intelligence that gave them the ABILITY to manifest their desires and put their murderous plans into action...then how were they able to do so with so little EFFECTIVE resistance from other cultures and empires who were "supposedly" just as smart as you imply? Oh, and yes. Had those ancient NON-WHITE peoples had nuclear weapons they would NEVER have used them to inflict more murder and damage. Genocide wasn't in their "culture," i.e., way of life- how you think about yourself (Whites (individualistic): I think, therefore I am; Blacks: I am because WE are), how you walk, run (seriously, you can't see a shadow of a man running down the street and not be able to tell if he's black or white... just from the way he runs?), eat, who is valuable, what is not, etc. Look, did we not talk about the Drogans and Sirius B? Did we not talk about the ancient Egyptians (Kemet) charting the distance from the earth to the moon 5,000 years ago? Everything one needed to know about how to build weapons of mass destruction was known to them. They fought battles. Whites fought wars of extermination. So, no. The whole idea of wiping out entire civilizations just because the inhabitants didn't look like them was outside their experience/culture. Europeans were VERY familiar... and comfortable... with the idea (why drop the bomb on Hiroshima/Nagasaki? Why not on Germany.....?) I should have made myself more clear..... When I said "ancient" I wasn't talking about those people of color who were around millions or even hundreds of thousands of years ago who DID have advanced technology and weaponry (some say they actually DID have and use nuclear weapons millions of years ago....but that's a different subject all together). I'm talking about people of color in this CURRENT "world" "epoc" or "dispensation".....if you will. I'm talking about the societies existing within this past 6,000 time frame since Caucasians have been in existence.

Troy are you telling me that of the people you grew up with you can not determine who will act the fool on a job you hooked them up with? Some, I know for sure. Others....I'm not sure of and I didn't really know how they would act UNTIL they were placed in a situation that brought the "street nigga" in them out. Most AfroAmericans have it IN them, all it takes is the right situation or circumstance or the wrong exchange to bring it out. See, it's more than JUST the job performance itself. Almost all Black men I know can peform the ACTUAL JOB they are given. It's the interactions with the people AROUND the job that often gets them in trouble. A lot of brothers (and sisters) have discipline problems: -Problems being on time. -Problems telling "hood" stories and giving racist Caucasians too much information. -Not being able to deal with subtle forms of racism. -Not being able to discipline themselves around attractive women. -Getting co-workers pregnant, lol. -Walking around "rapping" to themselves. You're working in a tire factory showing up to work in a FUR COAT....... "Romey ROME....up in this muthaf.... Reporting for duty!" Some of our brothers love to perform and put on a "show". But besides that, it's also the silly bullshit that goes WITH the job that often involves getting along with White folks AND other people of color who've adopted their morals and ethics that tend to get a lot of brothers in trouble. This is why on every job I've been a supervisor or manager on I take the AfroAmerican employees to the side and give them a "talk".....lol. Most of the time when I give them the "talk" they end up staying on the job a long time because they avoid the problems most AfroAmerican men face on the job. Just like almost all of the AfroAmerican employees I've ever trained on a job have NEVER been fired or even faced severe discipline from that particular job. Once I discovered the RIGHT way of a job as opposed to the "White" way.....I learn how to TRANSLATE it to my people in a way THEY can clearly understand it and excell on the job!

Troy So we live in a "demonocracy" huh? Ofcourse, lol. I thought you knew that already. Dude you are the one who should be looking it up. I have. Many years ago.And when I DID, guess what I found: All of them and none of them. The answer depends upon your meaning of "people of color" and "stable." Since the words mean what you say they mean, the answer is what you say it is. Not necessarily...... We have to have common agreement on certain definitions in order to get along in society on even a BASIC level. When I say governments by "people of color" I'm talking about almost all of the nations outside of Europe, Canada, Australia, and the United States. By "stable" I mean you don't have armed revolutions breaking out trying to take out the prime minster, national leadership, or local leadership violently every so many months......instead of peaceful elections. It shouldn't be too hard to find atleast a FEW examples of nations fitting that description around the planet. But now where you may find a little trouble is remember I said they had to be FULLY controlled by themselves....meaning completely independent and not having Europeans or Americans supporting their country financially. But still, you should be able to find a few. Now............. Of those few that fit that description how many are NOT authoritarian? Meaning having a strong leader or dictator keeping them in check?

A "couple" kids???? Oh hell no........ A PBT (pretty brown thang) like Abby better have about 7 or 8 kids to repopulate the planet and spread some of them beauty and intelligence genes around, lol. We need more Abby Phillips' to ADD to the gene pool and counter-act those Cardi B genes floating around...lol.

Troy You're making the assumption that Hitler was NOT a genius or on Einstein's intellectual level also. Just because someone is evil or a psychopath, doesn't mean they can't be extremely intelligent.

FAS In a collision of CULTURES, whites have always had the advantage. Has nothing to do with 'intelligence.' If their advantage has nothing to do with intelligence, then how do you explain the CONSISTENT pattern for so many centuries over so many people? Why wasn't there a more "win/lose/win/lose/win/lose/lose/win/lose/lose/win/win/lose" pattern with people of color? No, white people are the greatest killers the world has ever known. They are Destroyers of Civilizations. You'll get no arguments from me there. But are they the greatest killers because they are just more violent? Or are they the greatest killers because they were able to come up with the high technology to kill more effectively and efficiently in a way Africans would have WANTED to? Look at various Native American and African battles where entire tribes and villages were slaughtered using swords, spears, and arrows..... Is there any doubt in your mind that if those same ancient people's had nuclear weapons they would have USED THEM to inflict even more murder and damage? Infact, look at what so many Africans do to eachother TODAY when they get weapons from Europeans. Studying history, it seems to me that the biggest difference is while Caucasians spent much of their time killing people of color....people of color spent much of their time killing eachother. Everyone else is sub-human. Very easy to kill a sub-human (are not vermin sub-human? Is it not easy to kill a rodent sniffing around a found diamond?) Very easy to destroy a civilization of so-labeled 'sub-humans.' No other people on the face of this earth.... and especially those terminated out of existence by Europeans.... looked at a white man and declared him to be less human they. In every European incursion into every country in every part of the world, one look at the darker-skinned inhabitants and they were declared sub-human. Ok, so they had a twisted philosophy and grandiose mentality...... How did THAT prevent the people of color whom they attacked from developing more high tech weapons to defend themselves against their Caucasian aggressors? How does the next door neighbor's opinion of you PREVENT you from defending your home if he tries to break in? Troy What?! I keep forgetting the foundation of your understanding of a variety of subjects would allow you to make that statement, so nevermind... LOL! I'm actually surprised. I thought you would actually AGREE with my assessment of Del's statement claiming the "even distribution in groups" as being too simplistic. OK, then name three such instances from history. That's like asking me to name 3 times a rape victim fought back against her rapist. Come on man, you know there's been many instances where an unarmed individual had a gun pulled on them and was able to outsmart the assailant and take the gun away. Just go through some police files, I'm sure you can find a few. step back and reflect on why this statement might be true. Play devil's advocate. Why play "devil's advocate" when I agree with the statement? The fact is, domination DOES NOT automatically equate to intelligence or superiority. It's EVIDENCE of it, but doesn't necessarily equate to it. A dumb father may be dominant over and even abuse his gifted highly intelligent daughter...for a while. What you want to look for is a CONSISTENT PATTERN. When a person shows a CONSISTENT PATTERN of dominating another for years and years, that's a signal. So called white people do stupid shit too, No one said they didn't. TW @Pioneer1 your photos with humorous graphics are cute, I know they take a minute to create and I appreciate the effort -- thanks! You're welcome. Believe it or not I'm having fun coming up with witty lines to go with the pictures. Del Yes but Pioneer is a practical thinker, and can not imagine what he hasn't seen evidence of in his life. Cynique said that years ago. Once I realsied she was right my frustration with Pioneer disspiated. And I have even defended and sided with him on certain positions. Yes, for the most part I consider myself a practical thinker, however I remember what Cynique said about me...... Specifically she said I was "unable" to think abstractly....lol. However she (and now you) was wrong, I CAN and often do think abstractly....when there is a need to. But there is a difference between abstract thinking and coming up with LESS or UNLIKELY SCENARIOS. .....which are usually brought up by you and Troy to counter my arguments, lol. Instead of proving what I say wrong, the most common practice you two will do is point out an EXCEPTION to the rule...as if that dismisses my point. For example, I may say something like: We need to build more electric cars for people to drive instead of gasoline ones. And instead of accepting my statement as a reasonable generalization of society, somebody argues back: "Well everybody don't drive cars! If you had the ability to think ABSTRACTLY and see beyond your own personal experiences then you would KNOW that!!"

Gibran I just asked the young lady in my bed if she knew who Jeff Bezos was. She didn't. Next time ask her to text her boyfriend and see if HE knows who Bezos is, lol. ((something a white guy would joke about)) Troy I'm glad I have not encountered any women who have expressed this sentiment to me. It doesn't happen ALL the time but it's happened more times than you'd believe. And the sisters weren't stupid either. They both had good jobs and were over 30. When women say things like that to me, I'm no longer taken by surprise or shocked. It is what it is. They're pretty much saying something I've already known, and they KNOW I know it because I talk about it more in REAL life than I do on-line believe it or not....lol. I used to work security and had access to all type of work place cameras and saw what a lot of women do to not only get promoted but just KEEP a job. Which is one of the reasons I'm so adamant about NOT marrying a woman I'm not able to fully support so that she won't HAVE to get a job! There are plenty of Brothers who would not behave that way in a professional environment. I would think you would be able to determine whether someone you recommended would behave that way before making the recommendation. Your concern seems contrived. You can't always judge a person's work performance based on casual aquaintance or even if you've grown up together. Remember, I come from a blue collar background so we're not talking about Wall Street or IBM jobs. We're talking about forklift drivers, assembly line workers, driving delivery trucks, ect..... You know.... Them deep voiced dudes with nappy chins who come to your office to deliver those big bottles for the water coolers....lol. The same ones who always have a nice word and a smile for your female co-workers but ignore you or give you a mean look as he hurries out the door and back to the delivery truck....lol. "If she working HERE I bet they hooking her ass up with a 401K. Yeah....wife material right there!"

Troy If you doubt my etymological lesson on the word "democracy" then research it yourself and tell me what YOU find. Sterotypes have destroyed you ability to reason ... seriously What does my reasoning abilities have to do with documented history and current world affairs? If you disagree with what I say, give me a modern example of a "stable" government fully controlled by people of color that is NOT an authoritarian regime.

This is what I mean about our people needing to be PROPERLY educated. The education you receive in most public schools teach you FAKE rules or rules that only apply to middle-class Caucasians. Like we discussed in another thread, you won't be successful following THOSE rules because you are a an AfroAmerican man and usually live in a different environment. The women think differently and expect different things from the men of their environment. You out with your lady and some dude runs up on the both of you cussing and acting crazy, she don't want to hear you threatening to "sue the pants off" of the clown accosting you two. She wants some ACTION! Boys should be TAUGHT at home as well as in school that women love and respect STRENGTH....whether they admit it or not. Women SAY one thing out of their mouths but their ACTIONS speak much louder than their words. You CLAIM you can't stand him....but you done had 4 babies by him...lol. I'm not talking about a rap song. I'm saying that boys need to literally be TAUGHT this in school, so that they will avoid any type of confusion or frustrations as to what women find attractive in a man's behavior. "Now remember what I taught yall..... If you WANT some pussy, don't BE one!" If they aren't..... and ESPECIALLY if they're constantly told a bunch of LIES in the public educational system about women loving "sensitive" men or nice men, a man who holds the doors open and pulls the chairs out for women....the confusion will not only continue but get worse. White Supremacists maintain control through CONFUSION. They tell lies and half-truths to try to get you CONFUSED about life. Our boys need to be taught the TRUTH about life as early as possible and how to achieve SUCCESS....which for most young men means accumulating money, attracting partners for sex, and gaining respect and admiration among fellow men. You should be TAUGHT how to do this, instead of fumbling around in life in a state of ignorance and frustration. This is how I envision the educational system will be in the new world.