Pioneer1

Troy Your comments are based off of the assumption that NONE of the women who are being flirted with at these jobs like or enjoy the attention. It makes the assumption that ALL of the attention they get is unwanted by them, and thus is harassment. And the fact that a very large percentage of women who find their husbands actually find them AT WORK.....contradicts this assumption.

Troy True, but you're ascribing these difference to genetics and therefore race (as you understand it). I don't agree with that. I believe it is more a function of culture. 1. This is because much (though not all) of the differences ARE INDEED due to genetics. 2. Cultural frunctions/traits are pretty much caused BY genetics and environment. Just like gender is a combination of genetics and cultural expectations, so is culture. A person's genetics and environment are the causes of their language, diet, mating patterns, ect......

Del Can you elaborate? Read the first post in this thread:

Troy At work you would not say a woman looks fat for the same reason that you would not say she looks fine. Both statements objectify women and are inappropriate today in a work environment. Actually at most jobs I DID flirt and tell certain women they were attractive and looked good. But most of those jobs were BLUE-COLLAR type jobs like factories and warehouses where it was MORE acceptable than in the corporate environment. Not sure if this is taught in college but on most blue-collar jobs and jobs that are more physical often times flirting and joking around helps time go by and makes people MORE comfortable so that they can tolerate the job better. The physical demands and often shitty conditions of blue-collar work is stressful enough, joking around and flirting eases that which is why you used to see so much of it in those type of jobs. When you take THAT comfort away as they've been doing for the past 30 years....it makes that type of work less tolerable which is one of the reasons there is such a high turn-over rate in many factory, truck driver, and warehouse jobs. I believe this is more a function of culture and power imbalance. In places when men are more powerful than women you'll see men behaving in an overtly sexual manner to women. Perhaps, I can't argue otherwise. I've been on jobs where nearly all the managers were AfroAmerican men; and I've been on jobs where nearly all the managers were Caucasian men. Both had power trips, but here's what I noticed....... 1. On the jobs where most of the managers were AfroAmerican men many they openly flirted with the women and sought sexual favors from them quite openly calling them baby and staring them up and down.....trying to play "sugar daddy". 2. On the jobs where most of the managers were Caucasian men, most did NOT flirt with women or go around calling them baby and looking at their titties. But they would boss people around, work them long hours, run a much tighter shift, and expect people to work much harder than what was called for. Always looking for ways to make people work harder for less money. They also tended to embezzle funds and shift around money more so than AfroAmerican managers. What I learned from this was that having power allowed men to abuse people and exploit them in whatever way they DESIRED. Which means..... -If sex was what you desired.....then you'd exploit people for sexual favors. -If violence was your thing....then you'd bully people around and intimidate them through violence. -If bossing people around was your desire....then you'd become a control freak and micromanage people all day long. Most (I say "most" because some did) Caucasian men didn't use their power to exploit the women working under them for sexual purposes....not for moral and ethical reasons.....but simply because they had no desire to. They exploited people and mistreated them in other ways.

Troy I treat people as individuals. Me too, but come on man.....you HAVE to have noticed certain patterns. I mean...... If you've lived on this planet for a certain amount of time you would have to have noticed a PATTERN of behavior that is common to women and another common to men. Doesn't mean that every single individual man or woman acts that way, but most you encounter do. When you're meeting a woman you just met on the street do you raise back your hand as if to slap HER hand and give her some "dap" with the one-shoulder-hug? "Sup bruh...." You DO NOT treat women and men the same even as individuals. It's the same with Africans and Caucasians. Obviously not all Africans behave the same way and likewise not all Caucasians behave the same way.....but there are some patterns I've noticed between both.

I'm not sure what to tell other people in how to conduct themselves. I know what has worked for me SO FAR. I don't know about next year, tomorow, or even the next 5 minutes! But I do know what has worked for me so far. Perhaps Caucasians have CHOSEN to have a different relationship with you than with me.

I agree that Kamala isn't Black (African is the racial term I prefer) but she IS AfroAmerican because her father is an AfroAmerican. In other words, while she's not Black racially.....her ethnicity is in line with that of other AfroAmericans. I've heard a lot of criticisms about her and her policies but to be honest outside of the claim that she locked up too many brothers....the accusations are too confusing and seem to be all over the map. As a quick aside..... Many of our people get so emotional about what they are preaching about that they have a hard time "making sense" to those listening or trying to follow them. They tend to RAMBLE on emotionally. Interviewer: Can you tell us what happened between you and the man across the street? "Yeah... See, he ain't shit! Everytime he come around he start some mess with people. He think he's better than other people. Always lying, playing games...but guess what...karma is real. What goes around comes back around. " Interviewer: I understand but sir....exactly what happened to start all of this trouble? "That's what I'm tryna say. Listen, all them games he be playing, he ain't gonna be playing them for too much longer. Wait until them people get ahold of him. They are gonna put hands on him like he put hands on homeboy and tried to put them shits on me!" 🙄 If you don't understand what I just posted in quotes....that's the point! The brother above was just running his mouth and rambling, not making sense even when asked direct questions. And this is how too many of our people are. I haven't read a simplified direct critique of Kamala and EXACTLY what she's done that's so terrible to warrant such attacks from AfroAmericans as if she's worse than Trump. I know she used to be a Prosecutor in California before becoming a Senator and they said she was responsible for a lot of AfroAmerican men being locked up but I would have to still look at these cases more deeply. Some of those gangsters in Cali NEED to be locked up! I believe that Joe Biden is racist as hell but based on what I know right now I don't think Kamala is worse than Trump and seems significantly better. All together I think Biden/Harris are the lesser of 4 evils. But here's the bigger problem......... We can sit here and criticize Trump, Biden, the Democrats, and Republicans all day long because neither has our best interests in mind; but my question is what are WE doing as far as putting together a new society and new government? I don't hear a lot of talk about that. Just sitting around complaining about what "they" are doing to us without having a plan to govern ourselves is useless. I listen to Tariq Nasheed, Meechee X, ADOS, and others criticize the White Power structure in America WITHOUT organizing a plan to replace it. They either criticize the Democrats for taking the Black vote for granted or say don't vote....both of which helps Agent Orange stay in office. It's one thing if you were saying this WHILE offering a viable alternative to the current political system; but hell if you're just getting online bad mouthing Kamala Harris and the Democrats all day and all night and telling Black folks not to trust them or vote for them.......then what you're REALLY saying is either don't vote or vote for Trump. My question is, do you expect for things to IMPROVE as a result of that?

The following was a message I posted in another thread: https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/4759-“we-must-patronize-black-owned-websites-or-lose-them”/ I didn't want to hijack the original topic of the thread so I decided to turn most of my response into a thread in and of itself and hopefully initiate discussion. Del What's wrong with giving AfroAmerican women compliments? I thought the entire purpose of AfroAmericans networking with eachother was to strengthen our community and love eachother. Sexuality is an EXPRESSION of Black love. The work that Troy put in and my complimenting these women don't contradict eachother in any way, they are two different subjects. A Discussion For Anyone While I'm at it, let me say that my complimenting them won't cause problems, but YOUR CRITICIZING my compliments will. Let me explain.................. There is no established religion or morality in the AfroAmerican community or America itself for that matter, so to confront another man over his sexual behavior often times leads to more confusion, more conflict, and more divisions in the community. I've seen arguments break out even among intelligent AfroAmericans at events simply because a SINGLE brother gave a couple of SINGLE sisters mild sexually based compliments like, "You ladies are sure looking good in those yellow dresses! You're looking like dessert!" Now look at this..... 1. Neither party (neither the man complimenting them nor the women he complimented) are married. 2. We supposedly live in a sexually free society. 3. All of them probably went to college where they were taught the Theory of Evolution and see humans as just highly evolved animals anyway. ...but another AfroAmerican man or woman felt they HAD A DUTY to confront the brother over the compliment as if he committed a crime. Calling it "disrespectful". Calling it "inappropriate" Even talking about his mother saying 🤬 "What if one of them were YO MAMMA would you want somebody to....yada, yada, yada..." And naturally as a man he becomes defensive and then an argument breaks out if not a fight because HIS pride is now hurt! Why? Because of MIS-education...that's why. Because most AfroAmericans having been raised in this society were most likely given their morals and how to behave in public BY CAUCASIANS. Either in school, on the job, in the offices of corporate America....it was usually a Caucasian telling them what was good, bad, appropriate to say, inappropriate to say.....but all of these morals were based on the Caucasian mind and how WHITE MEN behave and think...not Africans. So because so many have been conditioned to behave based on CAUCASIAN morality, in their opinion...if you're not acting like a WHITE MAN.....you're not acting correctly! So our people look at how Caucasian men act and use THEM as the standard! Then what follows is a competition over who can act most like Caucasian men and whoever acts most like them is acting the "best" and those who DON'T act like him are often times criticized and maligned. How do most Caucasian men behave? Most Caucasian men generally do NOT flirt with women in public....out of fear. They also generally do NOT believe in publicly expressing sexuality.....they prefer to express violence instead. This is THEIR nature, but it's not ours. We have a much stronger sexuality (both men and women) and that must be taken into consideration when examining our behavior. Our nature as African men is to flirt with women in public and acknowledge their attractiveness and sexuality! You find us (African males) doing this in just about EVERY nation and land you find us in despite the religion and culture governing that land. We do this NATURALLY and will continue to do it under natural circumstances. Infact, schools and corporate America have to "train it out" of most Black men in order for them to fit in and get along with their Caucasian male colleagues. This is also why so many AfroAmerican men have a hard time fitting in with corporate America unless he's gay or has a weak sexuality. Black men with the weakest sexuality tend to "get along" better in Caucasian schools. I didn't say get the best grades, I said "get along"...... Meaning they tend to have less conflict with their peers, because they don't have to worry about who these men are going to have sex with(which is the root of most of the conflicts so many brothers have with Caucasian men). The natures of the African man and Caucasian man are different. Not that one is better than the other.....just different...and those differences should be acknowledged and factored in when making society rules and laws. We shouldn't expect African men to abide by rules and laws designed BY Caucasian men FOR Caucasian men. If Caucasian men don't want to flirt with women, don't feel comfortable complimenting them, or don't even want to have sex with them....that's their nature and their business. But we shouldn't imitate them but should hold fast to OUR nature which is SEXUAL and SENSUAL. If we try to suppress that it WILL lead to problems in the community such as what you've been seeing over the past 40 years.

What's wrong with giving AfroAmerican women compliments? I thought the entire purpose of AfroAmericans networking with eachother was to strengthen our community and love eachother. Sexuality is an EXPRESSION of Black love. The work that Troy put in and my complimenting these women don't contradict eachother in any way, they are two different subjects. My complimenting them won't cause problems, but YOUR CRITICIZING my compliments will.

Daniel I survived the disease. My father died of prostrate cancer doesn’t that mean I should have an irrational response? You used the term "survived" which suggests that what you went through was quite an ordeal. Seems that you wouldn't want ANYONE ELSE to go through it, or atleast MINIMIZE the amount of people who contract the disease instead of pretending it's not so bad and trying to FORCE things to get back to normal. Have you noticed they have not been reporting new cases and new deaths? The disease is abating. It has exhibited the rolling characteristics predicted in the beginning. I listen to an great deal of news of different perspective. 1. A few weeks ago the White House DEMANDED that hospitals give their Covid 19 numbers to THEM FIRST and they'll pass them along to the CDC! Given the history of this Administration, that means we can't be sure what the real numbers are now. Half of America could be dropping dead and you won't know it if the White House doesn't release that info to the CDC so that they can release it to the public. 2. I'm not sure what "new sources" you've been watching where they are NOT reporting new cases and new deaths. CNN and ABC News have been reporting an INCREASE in the deaths, saying that there's been over 1,000+ deaths a day from the disease every day for atleast the past 4 weeks Over 1000+ deaths a day! At that rate........ That's ATLEAST 370,000 deaths a year! Medical journals are reporting that Covid 19 is now the 3rd leading cause of death in the United States. Sorry bro..... You can try all you want but things are NOT going to go back to normal. It's like insisting on going on your morning jog in the middle of a war and PRETENDING that the bullets flying left and right and people dropping all around don't exist. Talking about you gotta "live your life". You can put on your shoes, running clothes, grab your water, and go bounding out preparing for a good sweat......going out there is ONLY going move you closer to your Maker. This society is collapsing and if you aren't preparing for a NEW one you're wasting a lot of time and energy. Even young Caucasians know this which is why they're raising so much hell in Seattle and Portland. They KNOW it's over. Too many Negroes are busy investing in bitcoin and living in denial.

Man..... Who are those brown skinned sistas grinning and peering into the camera at the bottom of the video? ....showing off their soft brown shoulders and leaving the rest to the imagination. Looks to me like pool-side was the place to be back in 2017....lol.

A few more things to keep in mind: - The nation is NO WHERE NEAR herd immunity, so the CURRENT death count could actually go 5 or 10 times higher as the number of first time cases rise - According to some of the doctors, even those who DO get it and get over it can end up testing positive again! Which means you can be getting spikes and waves and surges from NOW UNTIL. - While you're focusing on those who have DIED...you should be focusing more on the long term COMPLICATIONS. If it kills you in a few weeks, yes you suffered for a few weeks....but atleast you finally died and it's over with. What about the many many more who DIDN'T die but remain fucked up? Now..... I don't know if ANY of the above is true, but it's what "the white folks" are saying.....and since I don't have my own laboratory and stats to find out the truth I have to look at what they're saying about this virus and it's behavior.

Troy That picture is so fuzzy...... It looks like a close-up picture of head lice, lol. So I'm supoosed to base my life on your paranoid imagination? Being paranoid and distrustful of those whom you come across as suspicious just may SAVE your life. That way you don't let your guard down. It doesn't GUARANTEE your safety. You can do what you think you know and may STILL get victimized, but being paranoid and keeping your guard up lowers your chances of it. Like that old red-eyed Caucasian man in the MAGA cap who tried to creep up on me in the grocery store that I had to cuss him out and run him off a few months ago I told you about. "Hey there buddy....need some help???" "Man, you better get the fuck on...." And that was BEFORE the FBI reported that White Supremacists were trying to spread the disease. Just having an automatic distrust was enough to make me react. Does that guarantee my safety? Who knows...... But like Neely Fuller Jr. said, you do the best you can with what you got.

Daniel You're welcome. Are you going to wear mask 24 hours 7 days a week. It’s a silly argument. That makes about as much sense as trying to convince a police officer that his bullet proof vest is NOT needed and doesn't work unless he wears it 24 hours a day and 7 days a week. It distracts from the message that we need to open the economy. Yeah, we know...and that's the point! That message that we need to "open up" the economy is the WRONG message to be giving at this time and the public SHOULD be distracted from it. The same people who are pushing for the economy to open back up (it wasn't shut down in the first place.....only a FRACTION of the businesses actually closed their doors the liquor stores and gas stations stayed open) are the SAME people who are pushing for the schools to open back up. As long as schools are closed and children have to stay home.... the parents have an excuse NOT to come back and work for them....and they know it. These people are PSYCHOPATHS....literally. It doesn't mean they are knife wielding slashers going around in hockey masks murdering people, but it means they have no conscience or empathy. They could care less about the suffering and pain of other people. They only care about themselves and their own personal well being. So they will lie and say and do WHATEVER it takes to get people to come back to work and start producing again. Didn't Rand Paul (Ron Paul's son) come to Congress sick and KNOWING he had Covid19 not caring whether he was spreading it? Didn't he refuse to wear a mask? Isn't he still pushing for things not to shut down? Isn't he pushing for people to NOT have to wear a mask? Their OWN PARENTS could die of Covid-19 and they'd be on television the next day with a somber face pushing for schools to re-open teachers get back to work. "OK, listen up guys..... Everybody's gotta make some sacrifices" You sir....don't know White people the way you THINK you know them.

Troy I'm sure someone could find something you or I posted here twist it up and make us look like racist, sexist, homophobic, men. And I'm just as sure that they would NOT be able to find where you or I were calling for the death of another indivual or an entire group/race of people.....like those racist officers were. That's the difference. What they said were NOT mistakes or taken out of context. It was a revelation of what they REALLY TRULY believed and wanted to do. I left my garage door open for a few hours yesterday -- and I'm surrounded by white folks. Well you better start closing it before an alligator crawls up in there and greets you in the morning, or you find a noose hanging from the ceiling like Bubba Wallace did.....lol. Do you often encounter these race solders in the real world, or is your hysteria fueled solely from what you watch on TV and find on the web? You see and come across them everytime you go outside. You just don't know who most of them are because their private conversations aren't being caught on tape and exposed as in the case of these individuals. Do you think it's a wise move to WAIT UNTIL they do something racist and violent before being apprehensive? "Man...I KNEW something wasn't right about you!" If she were alive today and able to participate in the discussion, do you think our sister BREONNA TAYLOR would share your views about these racists officers and excuse their behavior as being taken out of context or as a result of just having a bad day?

Troy Sadly, we don't chose our race. Well if we could, wouldn't that mean there is MORE THAN ONE to choose from?

Daniel Pioneer1 and @Troy She was off by .01% Instead of .04% the current number is .05%. This means the meme should say 99.95% chance you would die. I'm trying to figure out where both YOU and HER are getting these numbers and statistics from. They certainly aren't coming from the CDC. Where did she get these numbers from, the Rush Limbaugh Show????? Troy It is not that hard; you should try it In the rare event that I am actually wrong.....lol.....I'll consider it. So why any Black person would do anything to undermine efforts to prevent the spread of this disease is COMPLETELY beyond me. Well it's not beyond me, I know quite well why an AfroAmerican would put out information that underminds their own people......... Because they got their "information" from the racist Caucasians they BELIEVE IN. Just like many people of color BELIEVE IN the Caucasians who tell them they can come to back to the class room because everything is safe and ok now....and end up DEAD 2 weeks later. They don't take time to learn the TRUTH.....because far as they're concerned if the particular Caucasian THEY believe (Republican Caucasian -if you're a Black Republican or Democrat Caucasian -if you're a Black Democrat or Christian Caucasian pastor -if you're a Black Christian) in says it....then it IS truth! Not just any ole Caucasian, but it's gotta be the particular Caucasian THEY follow. The concept that ALL of those Caucasians they are following are lying to them and are working together to confuse them about the truth and what's really happening -is outside of their realm of possibilities. Some AfroAmericans may question things and wonder if the truth is being told to them but much of the time THESE type of Black folks are argued with and shouted down by the devoted Negroes who "KNOW" that Caucasians won't and don't lie....lol. "Don't you talk about dem good white folks like that! Dey ain't racist.....YOU da' racist!!!!!"

If your Great White Hope gets re-elected and the country continues to go the way it's going.....you won't have to. R.I.P. to brother Herman Cain.

Daniel Just like 1% does not = 1 .04% DOES NOT = .04 If you don't want to believe a Black man, then ask the young man who does your illustrations to help you out, lol.

Del The cost to the originator outweighs the perceived benefits It depends as to whether or not the originator is considering how it benefits just THEMSELVES or how it would benefit the ENTIRE COMMUNITY. There is something called "sacrifice" and something else called the "greater good" that motivates a lot of people to act outside of their own personal self interests. It's the reason many lawyers will work Pro Bono.

Troy have you considered that they are actually sorry for doing something stupid? I'm sure they ARE sorry......for being stupid enough to get caught. You're really stretching it and going to bat for these race-soldiers as if they were just a bunch of school boys who were caught cheating on an exam or horse-playing in the hallway. Do you realize these racists were swore to protect society and they betrayed that oath? Do you realize that these racists were WELL TRAINED KILLERS with state-issued weapons and were given the authority to kill whom they saw fit? Instead of pondering on whether or not these "naughty little boys" are sorry and learned from their "silly mistake"......you should be TERRIFIED that such people were out on the streets with guns and the authority to kill and wonder HOW MANY MORE are out there like them who HAVEN'T been exposed yet.

Troy Still think Candice is cute? Oh yeah, that ain't going nowhere...lol. They just might have to just start calling her "fatal beauty" from now on. Troy and Daniel I think you all may have left out a few zero's in your calculations. 1% = .01 Anyway, .04 percent of 330 million is 132,000....and like Troy said, the United States has EXCEEDED that already and it hasn't even come CLOSE to herd immunity which would mean atleast half the population contracted the virus already. On top of that, they are saying that some people are actually testing positive AGAIN after getting over the virus! So even if only .04% of the population died THIS WAVE, then how long will it be before HALF the population ends up seriously ill or dead?

Daniel You seem to know nothing of culture of Manga and Anime. Yaaaaawwwn........ Yeah well...there's a reason for that, homie. You are a perfect example of what to look for if you wanted a standard to identify how a person is trapped in an old paradigm. Well YOU are the perfect example of who to contact if I'm ever in the mood for some Japanese Anime porn. But until then...bye Daniel.

Africans weren't "homo" anything.....until they came into contact with Captain Cave Man. "We need to find a way out of here...I'm not waiting until 1492!" Troy See what happens @Pioneer1 when people believe Black people and white people are not part of the same race. Lol...... Are you telling me you actually WANT to be in the same race as the guy who started this thread?

Troy Shows like Tony Brown's journal are a thing of the past. Man, I miss Tony Brown. and I've always said it is because we no longer have the platform to show intelligent Black people. But intelligent Black people would recognize this problem immediately and CREATE the platform! Smart people don't stand around in a circle STARING DOWN at a problem, they almost instinctively or automatically work on solving it either individually or collectively. ...while most stupid people won't even know they HAVE a problem. "Huh?? You sezz all the libraries got burnt down and all the books got burnt up???? (yes) Well....err....uhh....well uhh....well when did all DAT shit happen? (about 13 years ago) Well SHIT man....guess I wuzn't payin' no 'tenshion! "