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@ProfD that is true, all humans love handouts, its a myth that humans don't. Unfortunately, the black populace in the usa never had someone wealthy enough to give money to a large set like whites have on multiple occasions. The rockefellers in ny for example did that, gave jobs, gave things to the white community in the city. But they had the level of wealth to do that.

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I will defend the million man march in, the black populace in the usa is circa 50 million people. 1 million is not even ten percent, so I don't think the million man march called for all black people to attend, the idea was for a large group of black people to attend. and in defense of the black populace in the usa, i think the people the masses in the black populace did their part. the problem was the black leadership showed its poverty of quality. not having desire to guide that momentum. @Troy the tragedy in the million man match was how many black men, plus black people, i recall black women publicly being proud of black men, black children being proud, at least where i was offline, who embraced the comradery, embraced the communalism, left disheartened when black leadership showed its lack of positive quality. Either None of the black leaders for or in and about the million man march expected the turn out or they never were going to plan anything anyway. in defense of @Pioneer1 numerical statement, I can tell you from first hand accounts it was an order of magnitude more. It was more than a million. easy. and that goes back to my painful dislike of black leadership during that moment. The black populace were hoping in washignton with all those elected black officials whose offices are less than ten miles away, such a showing would come with their end, but at always black elected officials have shown their poverty and it has no excuse. I know people in here talk about the fiscal wealthy's influence, but that is a historically invaldated defense to elected officials impotency To your point about black leadership @Pioneer1 I oppose your position. he offered nothing. I realize that maybe most black people in this online community and maybe most black people in the usa grew or feel they grew up in a local black community that is full of black individual failure but I didn't. My local black community's problem was the white man it is that damn simple. Black people voted, owned homes, worked worked worked, all that B.. what you call advise or instructions black men in my local black community were doing before the match pioneer.ok. now maybe in yours it was all black statian hell but it mine it was not. , white man has power, the power you get with guns, the power to do regardless of education or financial value. Black leaders don't provide what local black communities like mine needed. maybe your local black community needed all that individual call stuff, but mine didn't ok. And i oppose your position, two million black people are less than ten percent of the black populace in the usa. Don't underrate the size of the black populace in the usa, it isn't the white jews. it is far larger. The KKK at its height had tens of millions. now if ten million black people were united under an organization then... that can lead to making changes, but not two or one million black people.

ah ok @Troy I will not do so any more. I figured black artist offering commissions is positive. Where in the forum space shall i put these in the future?

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@Pioneer1 yeah farrakhan wasted that march with no plan, whatsoever. him and the others told over a million black men to come and only could chastize or tell them what they already know, not have a plan. And white power wasn't why, it was as often in modern times, poor black leadership

@Pioneer1 I comprehend the why , i asked if you agree. If you do then what do you think can happen to strengthen this time. @harry brown do you have anything positive to say?

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@ProfD well, I think we both accept that monied peoples have influence and pay for what they want elected officials to do, placing them, but we differ on the excuse of that. Rich and powerful people have always had their hands on making elected officials are guiding them in the usa, and i offer in the past, they had a more dangerous ability to harm than today but elected officials in the past or now, like the black woman who just lost the harlem city council seat going her own way, happen. My point is, the moneid peoples are no excuse, elected officials deny them all the time. Yes, not a majority but it doesn't mean those that do what they say mustt, they are choosing. so i blame them, not the monied people. haha I am not sitting on the apple, praying for you:) just being inspiring. Yes, there is something stopping me, a great thing, an honest thing, A thing i wish more black people in the usa accepted and accept. . As I have said in this forum many times, different groups of black people in the usa from its secession from the british empire have always, always, had different paths, sometimes very unaligned. But the one problem among the black populace in the usa is the ability of all black people in the usa to accept that. I know some blacks want to merely kill whites in the usa. And I repeat what I always tell them, good luck, I can't join you, that isn't my path, the path of black folks like me, but i wish you well, wish you the best.

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@ProfD no they can not, at least in the legislative branches , to be fair, the excutive seats in nyc or nys are quite powerful. thus more monied influence but again, nothing is stopping anyone once they get in i see your definition of smart people. fair enough, can't wait for that call, come on nature, use your phone

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@ProfD I am not suggesting fiscally wealthier influencers are not about. They are 100% but the truth is, no one is stopping elected officials from acting away from then. An example, A man in NY state, a white man , called conqlin , used to control an organization that basically controlled all the shipping in the usa. He was huge in getting president harrison elected. Now as the legend goes, it could be all false , how can anyone know truth from the 1800s, conqlin went into harrison's office with a plan and harrison said no. Conqlin was one of te most powerful men in the usa at that time. My point, historical precedent exist for elected officials to go against their financial aid in the usa. Not common but not unheard of so elected officials can't say today,it never happened before, that is a lie. And then to my point, make the policy. you use the term smart people, who are the black smart people? please define them. Cause I think many people are smart. I don't think we define smart people the same. any person can be an agent of the people. and in the usa there is a separation of church and state legally. Elected positions are not set for those who are lawyers or busines people or preachers. Elected offices are open to musicans in the usa. Donald Schrumpf is not a business man, a white man in local nyc tv said that who works for banks. He called donald schrumpf a saleman. I call schrumpt an honest charlatan. The governments in humanity need more musicians. go for it!

@ProfD I concur 100% that new parties of governance are needed in the usa, it is a long time coming, start one Profd:)