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I think Pioneer is right in the sense that a college education is a waste of time for some people, especially if we looked at there personalities, talents and goals. For many college is just a rip off (but that is another conversation. But ability is rarely the reason for someone not to go to college, that is were we diverge on opinions.

@zaji, so you don't believe that some beliefs are wrong or incorrect and others are right and correct? If this does not accurately describe what you mean, you'll need to clarify it a bit more (at least for me) perhaps an example would be a good why to start.

If @Pioneer1 was a troll he would be the most ineffective or slowest one in existence. Pioneer is not a troll. I'm been running discussion forums for 20 years now and I don't begrudge anyone for wanting to maintain their anonymity. In fact the guy who spent a decade running our book club went by the name of Thumper and he did not want to reveal his real identity. In fact for years, lurkers would come to me, in the real world, and ask if I was Thumper -- many just automatically assumed this was true. After a while Thumper gained some notoriety and maintaining his anonymity became really hard. To this day his real name does not appear on this site. The same was true for the author known as Zane (who has posted here in the past). Zane ran her own forum dealing with sex and she maintained her anonymity for a long time she even had books published before people know who she was. The woman you runs the most popular Black forum that I know of uses Condi Rice as her avatar, thought she revealed her identity to me when I inquired whether her site was Black owned. Thought she could have made up an identity... That said, I give a lot more credit to people who stand behind what they say with a true identity. Look I know anyone can take some I might have written here out of context and make me look crazy. I know I can't run for public office of work for many companies based upon some of the stuff I've written here -- even if said in jest or to play devils advocate. So if you job is in jeopardy by all means use an avatar. There are many good reason to hide one's identity on the web. BTW @Kalexander2, Pioneers avatar is Earl Graves founder of Black Enterprise Magazine: https://aalbc.com/top_black_websites/#Black+Enterprise

@Pioneer1 I do believe that the vast majority of people are intellectually capable of getting a college degree. The biggest challenge is not intellectual. It is financial. I also believe that a high school education from 50 years ago is worth a college education today (@Cynique what do you think). I mean many in my parent's generation had little more than a grade school education and seem better prepared for life that a college grad today... Even when I was in school it was simply more difficult to do anything, writing a paper required a level of discipline that is unnecessary today. Today you can just type all you thoughts and some program will correct the spelling, properly format it, into whatever style you want and even fix your the grammar. I remember how frustrated I would be with a single typo-- too many and you had to start all over. Programming was more difficult, I won;t even talk about access to information... Again we have all the information in the world at our finger tips and people are less informed and greater numbers seem misinformed.

“...an uncompromising enemy of racism.” Author, Frank Hercules “thinking of one of my early inspirations Lewis Michaux. everyone who knew him has stories of him and the bookstore. when i started selling books in Baltimore, after the Panther Party and before Black Classic Press, i would travel to New York and bargain with Mr. Michaux for slow selling items in his inventory. we'd quietly do our bargaining away from the retail customers. he drove hard bargains, but would most often let me win, taking pity on this young bookseller breaking into the trade that he pioneered. i'd get lost in the thousand and thousand of books on his shelves, and loved the larger than life oil paintings always on display by Earl Sweeting. and the political and literary discussion always going on in the store. Louis H. Michaux remains our greatest bookseller.” —Paul Coates, Founder Black Classic Press (from Facebook post) Lewis Michaux, 92, Dies; Ran Bookstore in Harlem By C. GERALD FRASERAUG. 27, 1976 Mr. Michaux called his bookstore the house of common sense and the home of proper propaganda. The community called it Michaux's. The store was situated for 38 years on Adam Clayton Powell Jr. Boulevard at 125th Street. Browsers and customers included Kwame Nkrumah, who later became Ghana's first President; Malcolm X and many authors and scholars, such as W. E. B. DuBois, who met his wife, Shirley Graham, there. (read the complete article) National Memorial African Book Store The bookstore was located in two locations in Harlem, New York for 38 years (1932 and 1974). The 125 Street and 7th Ave (now Adam Clayton Powell Jr. Boulevard), pictured above, was torn down to make way for the Harlem State Office Building.

Wow that software has been around forever! I've used it myself but that was 30 years ago or more.

@Pioneer1, in reaction to your comment about, Black folks parading around the internet posting pictures and other personal form of information, I guess you've never heard of Facebook. I could not resist making that observation

I heard they are trying to change the law in Kentucky (I think that was the state) to make the legal age of marriage 18, or 17 in the parent permission. Seems the state has come under fire for allowing children as young as 13 to get married. These are mostly white girls I'm sure, given the state's demographics. The problem of over sexualiztion of girls is cultural. Sure our most vulnerable are often the most exploited. So perhaps this make Black girls particularly vulnerable. I doubt, Pioneer, you'll find any evidence to support the statement that Black girls become sexually mature earlier than white girls. But I don't doubt that is your experience.

@Kalexander2 maybe @Delano can help you with the statistics app; he is well versed in the subject and has probably used the software. To be clear, I was saying I found Boehner's crying ridiculous. I just want to shake and a tell him to pull himself together. Thought I'm sure some people might find his "sensitivity" refreshing or admirable -- however, I doubt any of those people are men. I'd like to think I'm a normal, compassionate person

You need an UAA or APU username and password to read the document.

Absolutely. Not all of course but enough. 600,000 laid their lives down in the civil war, dying for a cause that was really not in their self interest., but in the interest of the wealthy.

No need to apologies about how long it takes to reply @Kalexander2, besides you actually replied two hurs after my comment which is immediate as far as I'm concerned. The scenario you outlined would make a good book and film. I was not up on the influence the railroads had on the civil war are there any web based resources you recommend that I check out on the subject?

@Delano why do you think I asked you the question? Answer: because I had not read that post before I asked the question... obviously. @Kalexander2 "White folks up to that fact so they realize they are the true targets." I agree.

@Kalexander2, I was thinking about Black folks rising up in armed rebellion which the government could easily dispatch. Now a white nationalist rising up is a completely different story and would be reacted to quite differently. Can you describe who a potential civil war would be between? Would it be like the last one, white folk fighting amongst themselves for their own interests. This I could see happening.

@zaji, Finally someone who refuses to enrich Hollyweird. Even my going to see the film, just so that I could talk about it, actually reinforces the thing I'm lamenting. @Kalexander2, yes you pretty much summed up my impression of the film. The other part is that I find it sad that we are at a point in our collective consciousness (or lack their of), that we need Stan Lee's Wakanda to bring us inspiration. Of actual history is inspirational, but we as a people are unaware of it. Again, white folks are running around emulating Thor (save on halloween). Why? Because they don't need to. @Delano I'm aware of Tomi. I you did not need to eave this site to share the same information: https://aalbc.com/authors/author.php?author_name=Tomi+Adeyemi So Bill Jennings has an old Black Panther comic? So do I. Are you trying to suggest that this is evidence of the BBP took it's logo and was influenced by the comic book character? (@Delano Please answer yes or no and why.)

The technology has advanced too far for a civil war @Kalexander2, the government could easily crush any uprising without leaving the comfort of their air-conditioned offices and be home in time for dinner. But I agree it is getting bad and will get worse, I just don't think there is anything we can do about it, at least not in violent manner -- we just don't have the muscle. I may move to some African nation one day. Maybe sooner than later...

Ok Del.

Black Panther will prove to be what it is a movie, of no more significance to Black people than the Thor franchise is to white people.

Yeah we all thought similarly before 45 was elected to office. I've learned not to underestimate this country.

’Nuff Said!

@Delano you are so hung up on being right you are blinded to the opportunity to learn anything. I'm surprised by this. You asked if the BPP party was inspired by the comic. That was silly on it's face, but I played along and showed where the BPP got their logo and inspiration from. If it makes you happy to believe that the Black Panther Party was inspired by Stan Lee's character, because it "proves" me wrong go right ahead. I can no longer help you. But consider this; while you run around rejecting truth, you've failed to produce a stitch of evidence to the contrary...

@Delano Where did you get your information Wakandipedia? Question (please do not respond with a question) were you entertaining the idea that the Black Panthers got their name from the comic? Lowndes County Freedom Organization was founded in 1965. Besides, panthers is like tigers, lions, whatever, are common symbols of clubs teams, or organization -- not particularly creative or unique. The movie will do no more for Black people than the comic Del. Think it through man, 'cause you won't find a historical precedent.

Del I'd be willing to bet 45 serves out his term he is almost 1/3 of the way through now. This is provided his fat junk-food-eating-self is not forced from office for health reasosn or one of the folks he is screwing over does not snap and get him first.

Hamilcar... I would not have recalled that one. In 1966, Huey Newton, Bobby Seale, and others were in the local rec center reading issues of Marvel's Black Panther comics, inspired they decided to arm themselves and fight police brutality and start breakfast programs to ensure children were healthy. I guess most would find the above perfectly plausible, but in reality the Black Panther Party predates the stupid comic book character, Besides one is an actual panther and the some fictional king.