KO for KH

[aka Contrarian]

[frankster]

The Best People | Harris-Walz 2024

[ProfD]

VP Kamala Harris showed up well prepared to debate former POTUS OJ. 

 

VP Harris answered the moderator questions.  She was unfazed by the digs at her character and competency.  She called out former POTUS OJ on his own BS too.

 

A couple months left before America decides whether or not it is ready for the 1st female POTUS.

[umbrarchist]

It seems Taylor Swift picked a strategic moment to crack nuts.

 

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/11/nx-s1-5108695/taylor-swift-endorsement-kamala-harris

 

[Pioneer1]

You mean to tell me yall actually WATCHED that shit...lol.

 

I stopped being interested in this election MONTHS ago.
I could care less who won because the agenda is set no matter who gets in office.

Whoever the Establishment wants in....will get in; and it has already been decided.

If I had a choice, I would RATHER Kamala take the seat because of what Trump represents and encourages.
But in terms of actual policy....it makes no difference.

[Troy]

I watched this “debate” too. I can’t imagine that anyone’s mind was changed.
 

I find it extraordinary that Trump would mention that crazy story about immigrants, eating pet cats and dogs. That is worse than pizza gate. Obviously, he thinks that will appeal to his base. Which raises issues of the sanity of his base, if what he thinks of them is true.

 

like @Pioneer1 I’m not expecting any radical changes from the status quo. Despite all that was said on both sides. The rich will get richer. The poor middle-class will continue to struggle….
 

 

 

[ProfD]

11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

You mean to tell me yall actually WATCHED that shit...lol.

Yep. I find the news to be more entertaining than reality TV.

11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

If I had a choice, I would RATHER Kamala take the seat...

You still have choice to vote for her.  Michigan is a battleground state.

11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

But in terms of actual policy....it makes no difference.

VP Harris mentioned a few aspects of her plan. There's not much meat on the bone. 

 

Former POTUS OJ's has a plan of grievance and retribution. He's gonna scorch earth on payback. 

[frankster]

Bill O’Reilly, Geraldo Rivera criticize Trump for talking about migrants eating pets

[ProfD]

27 minutes ago, frankster said:

Bill O’Reilly, Geraldo Rivera criticize Trump for talking about migrants eating pets

Former POTUS OJ totally jumped the shark with that foolishness. 

 

Yet, the MAGA base will either believe or think it's funny as h8ll and vote for him anyway.

 

I'm wondering if we should be worried about half the population being gullible enough to elect that guy to be leader of the free world. 

 

Of course, we can think of several reasons *why* folks are willing to vote for him.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

 

Yep. I find the news to be more entertaining than reality TV

 

And I find pictures of mature naked Black and Brown women FAR more entertaining than the propaganda being labeled as "news" today.

It's starting to become my topic of choice when I surf the internet lately....lol.

 

 

VP Harris mentioned a few aspects of her plan. There's not much meat on the bone. 
 

Ofcourse not.

1. It wouldn't be wise for anyone to give too many details of their plans before taking office because their political opponents could either steal them or derail them.

2. Like Trump, she doesn't offer much detail to her plan because she doesn't plan on implementing most of it anyway.

Like I said, the agenda has been set.

I wish people would see what I'm saying about every time Trump is asked how he plans to carry out this "mass deportation" he NEVER explains it.
Instead he veers off the deep end with conspiracies, lies, accusations against Obama and Biden...everything but the details of how he plans to do it.
Because he DOESN'T plan to do it.

[ProfD]

@Pioneer1, do your thing mayne if that's your preferred choice of entertainment. 

 

You're right on both counts...plan and agenda.

 

Politicians aren't going to fully divulge their plans because:

 

1) the plan doesn't exist

2) plan won't be implemented if it does exist

3) PACs and special interest have already given them marching orders

 

That's why politicians come out every 2.5 years or so pandering for votes to make people feel like they're a part of the process.

 

The table has already been set long before these people put out flyers, signs, bumper stickers, robo-calls and beg for campaign donations.

 

Politics is a dirty business and a game filled with lies, greed and corruption.

[Pioneer1]

Now ,  Juvenile said:   -shhhhh........I'll let you in on a little secret.

Politics IS a dirty game, but I'm willing to PLAY the game and get a little dirt on me IF I (and my people) can get something TANGIBLE out of it.

I'll pass out your fliers.
I'll put your name out there.
I'll hype you up in the barbershop and in the grocery store.

....if you PAY me to do it and/or promise me a nice little comfortable position in your Administration.

 

[ProfD]

50 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Politics IS a dirty game, but I'm willing to PLAY the game and get a little dirt on me IF I (and my people) can get something TANGIBLE out of it.

 

....if you PAY me to do it and/or promise me a nice little comfortable position in your Administration.

Sure. Most politicians start out with good intentions until favors turn into fists filled with cash. They get addicted to money,  power and prestige like drug addicts.

[Pioneer1]

11 hours ago, ProfD said:

Sure. Most politicians start out with good intentions until favors turn into fists filled with cash. They get addicted to money,  power and prestige like drug addicts.

Getting paid and trying to secure some tangible benefits for yourself and your family ARE good intentions as far as I'm concerned.
What makes them bad is when you lie and harm people to secure them doing so, which many if not most politicians do.

 

[ProfD]

32 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Getting paid and trying to secure some tangible benefits for yourself and your family ARE good intentions as far as I'm concerned.

Sure. I don't begrudge anyone getting their paper.  The question becomes when is it enough tangible benefits. 

 

Rep. Nancy Pelosi has an estimated net worth of $240 million. As a public servant, if she had never spent a dime of her salary, she'd be worth $6 million. Her net worth is 40 times higher. It's safe to imagine how her investments have grown over time. 

 

Rep. Pelosi hasn't harmed anyone as far as we know. Many folks in Congress are multimillionaires. They are enriching themselves while passing laws that keep the masses on a hamster wheel trying to make enough to survive.

[Pioneer1]

1 hour ago, ProfD said:

Sure. I don't begrudge anyone getting their paper.  The question becomes when is it enough tangible benefits. 

There is no such thing as "enough benefits"...lol.
That's like saying a person is healthy enough, or has enough money, or is beautiful enough.
There's no limit to the value of certain benefits like health and wealth.

Like Puff Daddy said....
"what you can't have now, leave in your will.

But don't knock me....for trying to bury....seven zeros (tens of millions of dollars) down in Rio De Janeiry"   LOL

If you can't enjoy and use all of the wealth you have, you leave it to your children, and grand children, and so on and so forth.

Yesssss....
The Pioneer would make sure his family lineage is secure for 15 generations!

My great great GREAT GREAT grandkids would be walking down the stairs of their mansion and see a picture of ME on the wall staring down at them.
And they'd have to just smile and say "thank you"....lol.

If I were in Congress I definitely would look out for FBA and our concerns as a community and secure tangible benefits and resources for us however I'd also be striving to be the first Black TRILLIONAIRE in Congress too.

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

There is no such thing as "enough benefits"...lol.
That's like saying a person is healthy enough, or has enough money, or is beautiful enough.
There's no limit to the value of certain benefits like health and wealth.

Actually, there is a limit to all things in excess.

 

Children will eat too much candy and end up with a stomach ache.

 

Adults will drink too much alcohol and end up hungover or eat too much food and feel miserable.

 

More money = more problems. 

 

We just don't think about the limits until faced with our mortality.

 

When folks come down with a terminal illness or have a serious accident, they realize what's most important. It's not how much money they have in the bank or their material possessions.

 

The most important thing is....time.  Whether it is spent doing certain things or spent with family and friends, time is more valuable than anything else we can possess or consume.

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

If you can't enjoy and use all of the wealth you have, you leave it to your children, and grand children, and so on and so forth.

Passing down wealth to future generations is a great idea. Some folks don't have heirs to whom they can leave their wealth. Where does it go?

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

My great great GREAT GREAT grandkids would be walking down the stairs of their mansion and see a picture of ME on the wall staring down at them.
And they'd have to just smile and say "thank you"....lol.

The most interesting thing about heirs that far removed from the source of their inheritance is that they don't give a f8ck about the person who left them well off.

 

The old azz benefactor is just a picture on the wall if they even bother to pass it down or hang it up.

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

If I were in Congress I definitely would look out for FBA and our concerns as a community and secure tangible benefits and resources for us....

*If* is a condition that brings out the best of intentions.

 

Some folks claim they would do great things if they could. But, they won't have to if they don't put in the work to make it happen.

 

1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

I'd also be striving to be the first Black TRILLIONAIRE in Congress too.

You're concept of numbers is hilarious. Nice pipe dream.

 

There's only a handful of billionaires on the planet relative to the global population.

 

Currently, the richest person on the Earth is worth $219 billion. That's less than a quarter of a trillion dollars.

 

It is impossible for any person to become a trillionaire under any circumstance.

 

A Black public servant would never become a trillionaire or even a billionaire. That person would have to be a dictator over the entire planet.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

Actually, there is a limit to all things in excess.

 

That's why you preserve it and pass it along to the future.

 

 

 

 

More money = more problems. 

 

More money + IGNORANCE often = More problems.

 

If you have knowledge and good sense, then you use your money to help SOLVE your problems instead of making more.

More money may have made more problems for Puff Daddy...chasing women down hotel hallways and whooping their asses in his white robe...but they certainly haven't for Elon Musk and the boys.

 

 

 

 

 

 

When folks come down with a terminal illness or have a serious accident, they realize what's most important. It's not how much money they have in the bank or their material possessions.

The most important thing is....time.  Whether it is spent doing certain things or spent with family and friends, time is more valuable than anything else we can possess or consume.
 

Ask a suicidal man who WANTS to die...right before he commits...how much HE values time.

He'd wipe the tears from his eyes and tell you he'd wished his time on this planet had ended long before he was faced with having to make that decision.
 

But you're point is understood.
Time is one of the more important things because it's one of those things you can't make back up once it's gone.

However I believe KNOWLEDGE and the PROPER APPLICATION of that knowledge is even more important than time.
 

What good is a lot of time if you're dumb as hell and don't know what to do with it?
Like having a lot of money, and don't know what to do with it.

There is an old saying that YOUTH (time) is wasted on the young (ignorant).
Some people have plenty of time and energy...but don't know what the hell to do with it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Passing down wealth to future generations is a great idea. Some folks don't have heirs to whom they can leave their wealth. Where does it go?
 

To the state.
...probably into somebody's "rainy day" fund, lol.


 

 

 

There's only a handful of billionaires on the planet relative to the global population.

 

Currently, the richest person on the Earth is worth $219 billion. That's less than a quarter of a trillion dollars.

It is impossible for any person to become a trillionaire under any circumstance.

 

That's a pretty pessimistic view of wealth generation, lol.
Whatever it took for a person to become a billionaire...will get them to trillionaire status if they follow that same path with enough time available.

 

They didn't have any billionaires 100 years ago.
Perhaps they thought THAT was a pipe dream that could never be achieved as well.
Infact, they only had a few millionaires.
 
Give it time.

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

More money + IGNORANCE often = More problems.

True that. Many lottery winners have gone broke.

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Ask a suicidal man who WANTS to die...right before he commits...how much HE values time.

Time isn't the enemy.  Mental and/or physical pain usually leads one to making that decision. Often times it is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

However I believe KNOWLEDGE and the PROPER APPLICATION of that knowledge is even more important than time.

Sure. Knowledge and proper application could lead to success providing that it doesn't waste too much...time.

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

What good is a lot of time if you're dumb as hell and don't know what to do with it?

Well, I've know quite a few folks who've lived for a long time and don't have much in terms of money or accomplishment to show for it. Yet, they always seem to be the happiest folks on the planet. Grinning and smiling all the time.

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

There is an old saying that YOUTH (time) is wasted on the young (ignorant).

It's usually old and bitter folks who say that after they've burned up a whole lot time doing dumb sh8t and don't have much to show for it.

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Some people have plenty of time and energy...but don't know what the hell to do with it.

They seem to live forever too. Maybe that's the fountain of youth. 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

To the state.

...probably into somebody's "rainy day" fund, lol.

Right. Everyone should have a Will. I don't give a d8mn if it's $10 or $10 million. Put in writing where it should go. No confusion. 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

That's a pretty pessimistic view of wealth generation, lol.

Not pessimism. Based on facts. 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Whatever it took for a person to become a billionaire...will get them to trillionaire status if they follow that same path with enough time available.

Let's see if Elon Musk can increase his fortune 4-fold before times up.

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

They didn't have any billionaires 100 years ago.

Andrew Carnegie's net worth adjusted for inflation would be near $372 billion today. Only $153 billion more than Musk.

 

Theb richest person to have ever lived is 14th century African emperor Mansa Musa who had a net worth the equivalent of $400 billion. 

 

Still, less than half a trillion dollars no matter how the numbers are adjusted for inflation. 

[Pioneer1]

ProdD

 

 

Time isn't the enemy.  Mental and/or physical pain usually leads one to making that decision. Often times it is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

 

Facts.
However my point was to show that just because a person is near death, doesn't necessarily mean they want more time.

 

Perhaps as human beings we should be grateful that we were given the ABILITY to take our own lives.
Animals can't make that conscious decision no matter how much suffering they're going through.
They can kill themselves, but it's almost always an accident.

 

 

 

Sure. Knowledge and proper application could lead to success providing that it doesn't waste too much...time.

 

I'm of the belief that almost ANYTHING and almost EVERYTHING is possible.  All you need is the proper KNOWLEDGE on how to make it happen.
If you have the proper knowledge, you don't need the amount of time the next man may need.

 

I often lament getting older.
However there are certain things I can do now in 10 days, that when I was 20 or 30 would take me several MONTHS to do...if I could get it done at all.

 

 

 

 

 

Well, I've know quite a few folks who've lived for a long time and don't have much in terms of money or accomplishment to show for it. Yet, they always seem to be the happiest folks on the planet. Grinning and smiling all the time.

 

I know some too.
Rick James said COCAINE is a hell of a drug, lol.

 

 

 

 

It's usually old and bitter folks who say that after they've burned up a whole lot time doing dumb sh8t and don't have much to show for it.

 

Oh no, not necessarily.
Actually the couple people I heard that from were well to do retirees who were vacationing!

That Baby Boomer Generation who enjoyed many of the early benefits of the Civil Rights Movement and Quotas and Affirmative Action when it was focused mainly on Black folks.

 

 

Let's see if Elon Musk can increase his fortune 4-fold before times up.

 

Elon can do what he wants to do, as long as he stays out of politics.
I don't like how him and Trump keep hooking up devising shit together.

 

 

 

 

Andrew Carnegie's net worth adjusted for inflation would be near $372 billion today. Only $153 billion more than Musk.

Theb richest person to have ever lived is 14th century African emperor Mansa Musa who had a net worth the equivalent of $400 billion. 

Ahem.....
Like I said, we didn't have any BILLIONAIRES 100 years ago, lol.

 

[ProfD]

34 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Perhaps as human beings we should be grateful that we were given the ABILITY to take our own lives.

Yet, it is considered a sin. 

34 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Animals can't make that conscious decision no matter how much suffering they're going through.

An old lion will wander into a wild pack of animals. Maybe that's their form of suicide. 

34 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Oh no, not necessarily.
Actually the couple people I heard that from were well to do retirees who were vacationing!

That Baby Boomer Generation who enjoyed many of the early benefits of the Civil Rights Movement and Quotas and Affirmative Action when it was focused mainly on Black folks.

The same generation that didn't build wealth or leave an inheritance.

34 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Ahem.....
Like I said, we didn't have any BILLIONAIRES 100 years ago, lol.

The fortune they had back in their day was the equivalent of billions.

[Pioneer1]

Whether it's really a sin or not, I don't know.

Most people hope they don't experience something so terrible that they are faced with having to make that decision, however it's not wise to judge people who do that unless you've either experienced or closely observed and understood the situation they're dealing with.

Like you said, a lot of it is mental health issues....but then again you have people who've seen and experienced things where the pain is so great they don't see a need to continue on.

I was watching a news video the other day of a 14 year old boy who's ENTIRE FAMILY....mother, father, and older sister...were instantly killed in a car crash in Texas.
Imagine the pain that boy will have to go through for years if not the rest of his life trying to deal with something like that.

 

[ProfD]

24 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

... however it's not wise to judge people who do that...

True that. Judge not...

 

24 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Like you said, a lot of it is mental health issues....but then again you have people who've seen and experienced things where the pain is so great they don't see a need to continue on.

For whatever their reason, I'm totally in agreement with people taking themselves out instead of killing others.