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[richardmurray]

@ProfD 

1 hour ago, ProfD said:

We've had freedom of choice and agency over our bodies for a couple centuries.

that isn't true in the usa. 1980 was when slavery ended in the usa. it isn't about the laws it is about the environment. The great tragedy of tulsa in my view is that black people living today will say the black people during tulsa's time were free, but that is freedom? yeah start business, go to college, and at any moment the white populace could wipe you out and every single municipal level from the federal government to tulsa city council would be in on the coverup. that's freedom? we weren't free in our choices. MLK said it best himself. 

https://aalbc.com/tc/events/event/356-mlk-jr-day-good-news-calendar/

1 hour ago, ProfD said:

Even animals know how to prevent their offspring from a life of of pain and/or suffering. 

 

A mother will euthanize those incapable of surviving on their own. A father will do the same thing.

what non humans are you referring to? nonhumans trust nature to do that. they don't do that. 

 

54 minutes ago, ProfD said:

Rhetorically, I wonder what happened to any additional offspring and the parents.

I know exactly what happened, in one of my posts posted or one I have set up but haven't had time to share, the chinese government allowed the sale of the extra children illegally, meaning illegal in chinese law like when the usa federal government allows illegal immigration,  through traffickers who made a fortunes selling chinese kids to white people all over the world, who were not orphans. 

The chinese government shut the majority of traffikers down, using some of the biggest offenders as scapegoats, ala madoff in the usa similarly PLUS opening up the child allowance.  To me the traffikers made the mistake of thinking this would last forever. that is a foolish hustle to think will last forever. I know that in eastern europe the traffiking of blondes is big to all the rich asians who are looking for.. various things, but they don't go too far, or the governments will step in. The governments already know all the crimes but they all allow certain levels of all crimes under a cap or within some limit. Some chinese traffikers got too greedy, were too confident governments wouldn't step in. 

 

@Chevdove 

1 hour ago, Chevdove said:

You are not the only Black American that thinks in this way, so collectively, yes this kind of belief does hurt us, imo.

Well the issue is centrism. Many, not most, black people want to be centrists. It is the old adage, I married a white woman, went to harvard, live in the hamptons, but I am blacker than black still. Many Black people in the usa, and definitely descended of enslaved fear the internal shame, not external,  of being a white agent.  

The slave revolts prove, most black people have a distrust of black people who have a positive or more positive relationship with whites or the usa  but how else can a black person succeed in the usa absent a positive relationship with the usa or whites:) 

So, it becomes an impossible task. But one many black people venture to, and thus modernity. 

As I have said in this forum many times, most black people want black betterment but the problem is the intricacies of how said black betterment is defined. As frederick Douglas said, 

https://aalbc.com/tc/events/event/418-frederick-douglass-our-composite-nation/

Profd + Pioneer say today. It isn't a new thing. The problem is, nonblack peoples actions have always made it very challenging for a majority of blacks to trust nonblacks or the usa. And absent trust to non blacks or the usa, a black person tryin the middle will never be trusted by most blacks. 

This is why I try to emphasize black people in tribes do more in those tribes. Cause most in any tribe are similar thinking so the trust is there. If a black atheist goes to a black church it will be very hard to regale on anything. 

 

[ProfD]

12 minutes ago, richardmurray said:

@ProfD 

that isn't true in the usa. 1980 was when slavery ended in the usa. it isn't about the laws it is about the environment.

As it relates to procreation, it has been over 200 years since Black folks were forced to breed to children.

 

12 minutes ago, richardmurray said:

what non humans are you referring to? nonhumans trust nature to do that. they don't do that. 

Among certain animals, after giving birth, the mother will look over her offspring. If she deems that it is incapable of survival, she will euthanize it.

 

12 minutes ago, richardmurray said:

If a black atheist goes to a black church it will be very hard to regale on anything. 

Right. If/when I'm in a church or religious setting for whatever reason, I don't offer anything. Now, if they ask what I think...it's on and popping.