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Dr.  Ben. Carson. Says. Poverty. Is. A. State. Of,Mind.. Black. People. Who. Are. Poor,Want. To. Be. Poverty.  . Ben. Carson,HUD Secretary. Used. HUD. Money. To. Buy. Dining. Room. Furniture ,There. Was. A. Uproar.  . Will. Ben. Carson,Be. Fired. Next,Since. Lunatic. Trump. ,Has, Fired. His,People. Each. Week?.  In. Texas. ,Mail. Bombs. In  Black,Brown,Communities,I. Think. 1. Person. Was. Killed.  They. Do. Not. Know. Yet. If. This. Is. A. Hate. Crime. If. It. Is,I'm. Not. Surprised.  Trump. Has. Brought. Out. Race. Hating. Evil...March. Madness,Seems. Each. Year ,When. The. Tournament. Begins,A. Black. College. Is. In. A. Play. In  Game....Did. Not. Mean. To. Put. Harry. Belafonte. Book. On.  This. Side......

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Damn Ben Carson, that's the biggest pile of shoveling I've heard in the past two hours!  Is that what Carson tells those Black folk living in NYC projects getting meals in boxes replacing food stamps that barely fill a cup; their hunger is in their minds. and living conditions is an imagination?  That brother should shoot himself. Though I understand (if not approve) his selfish, greedy soul for sell the highest bidder, giving-up the fight and pulling his pants down for reception. A damn heart or neurosurgeon complacent toward human life.  I see why trump made him Secretary of HUD.

 

Just imagine BC in the oval office! 

 

 
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And to think......
If only Ben Carson would have known that poverty was simply a state of mind when he was just a poor kid coming up.

Instead of all those years of going to college, studying, and hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loans in order to become a doctor and make a good living for himself......all he really had to so was go out on the porch, sit down, and CHANGE HIS MIND, lol.

I don't agree with his politics but Carson is a brilliant brother.
He wouldn't have made it to head nigga in neurosurgeon at John Hopkins Medical Center if he weren't.
It's sad to see him disgrace himself and tarnish all of his achievements like this.
It reminds me of how the esteemed General Colin Powell allowed himself and his sterling reputation to be turned into shit by doing the bidding of George W.

Dr. Carson should resign from that position and abandon that sinking ship.

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@Pioneer1, don’t be too hard on brother Carson, he’s simply doing what any reasonable person would do to survive. He’s one of the millions of Black folk who’d sell their soul to the devil for a miserable benefit.  But I do take a second opinion as to him being brilliant. If he truly were he wouldn’t position himself with DT. His career as a surgeon also comes into question in as much as John Hopkins U. is concerned. Now I’m simply being partial toward obscurity vs. significance to Black needs which he failed. Sorry!

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But I do take a second opinion as to him being brilliant. If he truly were he wouldn’t position himself with DT. His career as a surgeon also comes into question in as much as John Hopkins U. is concerned.


Perhaps he's really BOOK SMART but lacks basic common sense.....

Maybe he was one of those kids who was always academically inclined but never "cool" and always had this strong and nagging craving to "fit in" and be popular.
Just maybe...this position provided him with an oppotunity to fullfil his dreams, lol.

I was wondering what happened to Urkel after Family Matters.....lol.

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The ladder is more likely the case. An overachiever to be sure. I cannot see Ben Carson being bullied by anybody, too intelligent for that and too detailed oriented. Fitting in was probably never a probably issue either. He see himself above White men which is why ran for the oval office, short-lived when he realized his first love, any success at any cost. That brother is too ambiguous, a problem he sees as it is, a problem but it brought him too far to check it. I do believe.

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I cannot see Ben Carson being bullied by anybody, too intelligent for that and too detailed oriented.


Intelligence isn't a substitute for courage, just look at Obama and how smart HE was yet he constantly compromised with and caved into the demands of more aggressive Republicans in a feeble attempt to "make peace" and get along with them.

If you go to any school you'll see plenty of smart wimps....lol.

I think one of the reasons Ben Carson was able to rise as far as he did as a doctor wasn't JUST because of his high intelligence but also because of his docile and non-threatening demeanor.

He also said that his wife was the ONLY woman he'd ever been with.
Which also no doubt helped his career since the White men working with him didn't have to worry about him sleeping around with White women....lol.

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@Delano, you think I intend to greet whenever I use the term ‘Brother’ or ‘Sister?” I assure that isn’t the case. I’m old school and those words genuinely, to connect with a Black person, it’s personal and has greater meaning for me. Not gain trust or approval! And here I am thinking my loving, magmatic personality was the unifying element here!

Not a strict father either, my household is double incomes without children, and not because I see children as messy, noisy, and expensive. Love them but content I don’t any.

And, among the languages I speak, French is one of them. You are not speaking French. Or did mean foreign or ‘manner’ of speaking which is not gibberish but not worthy of critical speculative thought either.

 

Okay, well, whatever. Does this mean you've excused or dismissed yourself?

 

@Pioneer, politics is simply an art of persuasion, getting something, you want. Please don’t mistake courage for being courageous enough to not back down in the face of adversary, pressure, or empty promises. Obama Took over the oval office. Ben Carson caved, for whatever reason. Personally, I'm of the opinion Barack Obama was foolishly brave, Ben Carson was cowardly, a coward. Neither served in the military and neither knocked the shit out of a Republican. Do think it civility, professional courtesy, or fear.

 

Obama could have done more the Black community, but politics and politicking left him more of a lame duck because of Republican Party control of Congress. The brother did whatever he could to please as many of the people for as long as he could with the power given him. Executive orders overruling Congress, etc. Had he done something unpopular like implement ‘reparation’ for America’s part in slavery he would not have served another term, hell Republicans and Democrats would have served America his head on a platinum platter and his family as finger food. To be perfectly honest, 7 of his 8 years in office I suspected predicted his assassination.  Thank God I was wrong.

 

I know nothing of his personal life, and neither do you. There’s never been a scandal involving the other woman whether because he’s never been with or whether it’s true. Have you ever been with another woman while with your significant other? He was President of the United States of America, of course, any woman would have slept with him, even Joe Biden’s wife would sleep with him.

 

Just what is your point, exactly?

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Obama Took over the oval office. Ben Carson caved, for whatever reason. Personally, I'm of the opinion Barack Obama was foolishly brave, Ben Carson was cowardly, a coward

 

I don't think Obama was brave, I think he was just ambitious.
He was always a high achiever and wanted to see if he could achieve the highest office in the land....and did.

 

As far as Ben being a coward......LOL....aren't YOU the one who told ME not to be so hard on him and that he wasn't the type to be bullied?

Now you're sitting up here calling the man a coward....lol.

 

But no, I wouldn't exactly call Ben Carson a "coward"...but tame and docile he is.
With what they have to do and see,  would think it's extremely hard to be a coward and a doctor....let alone a surgeon.....at the same time.

 

 

 

 

Neither served in the military and neither knocked the shit out of a Republican. Do think it civility, professional courtesy, or fear

 

I think it's a mixure of foolish (you can be smart and foolish at the same time) professional courtesy along with a good dose of fear.

 

 

 

 

Had he done something unpopular like implement ‘reparation’ for America’s part in slavery he would not have served another term

 

Lol, then why didn't he do it in his 2nd term when he had little to lose?

 

 

 

Have you ever been with another woman while with your significant other?

 

Plenty of times, with and without their knowledge.
But now a days....with.

Because honesty is part of my moral code....but monogamy isn't.

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@Pioneer1, be that as it may, isn’t ambition the motivation for success?

 

My comment reference was to Carson’s ambition, doing what’s good for his self-preservation, has nothing to do with being weak, chicken, being a coward. You too, Pioneer1, you’re tame, docile and domesticated. Referring Black folk as ‘negros.’ It doesn’t make you a coward, nor successful, just complacent just like Obama and Carson.

 

By Obama's second term, he was done screwing matters up and in the middle his ultimate orgasm. Didn't hear, couldn't Black America ringing the doorbell. By the time he said 'come back' tomorrow, it was already too late.

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Poverty is more than just a state of mind.And this man's other comments on African slaves being immigrants to the U.S. shows he has intelligence but no common sense.

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QueenX please consider creating an account, so That I do not have to manually approve you posts. Thanks!

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Here's an explanation for poverty in all of the races.

 

- 1% of Americans own 40% of America's wealth.

 

- 20% of Americans own 90% of America's wealth.  90%!!

 

- 80% of Americans, you, me, and most everybody we've met, are competing for the last 10%.  

 

SOURCE:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/12/06/the-richest-1-percent-now-owns-more-of-the-countrys-wealth-than-at-any-time-in-the-past-50-years/?utm_term=.a2a20e2a9c80

 

That's all there is to it.  There's plenty of money available in America.  And a small number of people are hogging it.

 

It's amazing how complacent we are about 20% of Americans owning 90% of America's wealth.  You have to wonder how high that percentage would have to go before we took it seriously.  95%?  98%?  99.9%?

 

The problem is not that rich people are evil, for most of them made their money in an entirely legal manner.

 

The problem is that we the 80% are stupid.  We have 80% of the votes.  We have the power to do whatever we want.  But we can't get our shit together, and spend most of our time arguing with each other over that last 10% of the economy.  We are 21st century feudal serfs, by choice.

 

 

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@Tanny: You only encourage my already severe sense of pessimism regarding our Black community. Well, let's speak to that as a starter before further discussion of plans to tap into, say, 50% of that 90% surplus. What do we, what solutions are available to correct complacency and stupidity of Black folk? I, myself, am of the opinion that only time, and more of Trump types will usher in a change. And you?

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Well, I'm white, so I'm going to leave discussion of complacency and stupidity in the Black community to others.

 

I'm speaking to the stupidity of all of us in the 80%, white and black.   It's not limited to poor people, or uneducated people.  As example, on another site I'm talking with a philosophy professor with a PhD with a good job at a university.   He's most likely in the 80% too.  I also participate on a site for a professional academic philosophers organization, most of whom are white.  They too seem content to compete over that last 10% of the economy, which is remarkable when you consider that they are paid to be masters of logic.

 

Perhaps the word "stupidity" is too harsh.  But what else should we call it when the majority of us allow a minority to hog almost the entire economy?

 

You ask what the solution to all this is.  If I had to guess, I'd say probably another financial crisis, one worse than the last one.   I've been stupid on all this most of my life, it was the 2008 financial crisis that woke me up.

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Thank you, for your honesty, Tanny, unfortunately, for me, I am concern with only the Black community and the plight of Black America. Not even African Americans as White folk born in Africa are considered African American. Please don't be offended. 

 

The 2008 financial crisis was bad, indeed, but the depression of 1929 was worse. And even that didn't wake the people up, Black nor White. No, it's going to take a crisis far greater than an economic or a plague. I've said it on this site before and believe it now. Only a total rebellion or invasion from a foreign power will bring all the American people together. those left alive that is. 

 

No, I don't stupidity is too harsh a word; people are, indeed, prone to unreasonable thinking and acting these days, both Black and White folk. That's the reason we're in this crap, the people; not all the Government's fault.  

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I would like it if all of the poor and working class in every race could work together to solve the problems of poverty and other economic injustices, but it's been my observation over the years that many POOR White people are content being poor as long as they are allowed to practice racism.

In other words, it doesn't matter if they're living in a trailer park with no healthcare and no teeth in their mouth and can barely eat.........
As long as there are no Black people or Mexicans around, they're happy as hell and see no need to complain.
Many poor White people and especially poor White men feel this way.

This may sound ridiculous to you but it's very true in a lot of cases.

Their biggest fear isn't poverty or not being able to pay for an operation they need to save their life.....it's a Black man sleeping with their wife or daughter, lol.

Another thing I've noticed is that a lot of poor and working class Whites have a "it's my duty to be poor  and not complain about it" mentality.

I've worked around poor White men who wore raggedy tennis shoes and only had one pair of pants and t-shirt and the only thing they lived for was to smoke cigarettes, drink beer, and work.
If you talked to them about demanding higher wages or better healthcare they'd get angry with you and accuse you of being a Communist or Socialist....lol.
They felt it was just the "right thing to do" to be poor, work their ass off, and not complain.
Many took pride in it and would berate eachother for complaining about anything.

"Oh stop yer bitchin' and yer moanin' and be a man!!!"

It's hard trying to reason with people with that type of mentality and it took me years to discover how many actually exist who think like this.

This is one of the reasons Trump got elected.
They didn't vote for him for what he would DO FOR THEM.
They knew he wouldn't do anything for them.
They voted for him for what he promised to DO TO OTHERS (lock them up, deport them, ect....)!!

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TRUE THAT!

 

Former vice president Joe Biden said what others wouldn’t. The real reason why Republicans talk about voter fraud is that they don’t want working class and black people to vote ... Though Joe Biden is not to be trusted either, he's one of the reasons Obama didn't do more; but he's politician politicking for votes and will say anything to get it; short of doing anything that actually helps.

 

Another reality we're all about face is the power of vote, or lack thereof. In this sense you're again, Whites don't really care about the vote as long as they can be just be xenophobic and racist. When it does come to the vote, however, Whites will do whatever it takes to dissuade social and economic justice. Which does not surprise me either?

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16 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I would like it if all of the poor and working class in every race could work together to solve the problems of poverty and other economic injustices, but it's been my observation over the years that many POOR White people are content being poor as long as they are allowed to practice racism.

 

{sniffle, Sniffle} I don't believe it Pioneer and I agree on something. In the background I hear angels singing and see the clouds parting to reveal the sun and a beautiful rainbow.  Strike the in every race bit and we'd be in 100% agreement.

 

I did not know that you were white @Tanny in another post I suggested that you were a younger to explain why you were less pessimistic.  But but whiteness would explain it as well.  The reality is that young white people have a lot more to be optimistic about in these United States.

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Yes, Troy, there are many young White men and women aware of the problem but unable to get their arms around why the problems exist. I appreciate the opportunity to converse with these people, try to express the psychological trama Blacks experience no one but Black can understand. I applaud Tanny's willingness to listner with an open mind!

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Some people believe that only another Black person can really know and understand the problems Black people suffer from in the United States.

I happen to believe that there is atleast one group of people who know and understand the problem MUCH more than Black people.........THE WHITE SUPREMACISTS WHO ARE ENGINEERED THE PROBLEM.

Infact, they know more about the problems (and the solutions) that Black America face more so than Black people themselves who are often clueless as to what's going on in their own communities.

Up in Flint, the White employees who worked in the state building knew the water was toxic for weeks before the residents did and kept it a secret among themselves.

I don't think you're going to "reveal" much to White people that they don't already know.

Many of these townhall meetings and heart-to-heart talks trying to get people to undertand your pain when 20% of the audience sitting there smiling at you and clapping for you are card carrying members of the KKK and are plotting your death is futile and a waste of time.

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I unequivocally disagree, Pioneer1, as is my right that no Whiteman, woman, nor child can understand the 'Black experience, even if you spend a lifetime explaining it them.' What they call alienation is actually different life views among themselves; what they call inequality is being ignored by their own; and their idea of need is little more than more power. 

 

In the voice of the Church-lady in Saturday Night Live, "HEY FOLKS THAT'S WHAT I MEANT." A few courses in Black history isn't enough to understand institutional racism; Even looking in the mirror to see a Black reflection only gets you there, nothing more.

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I believe you're right that the AVERAGE White man and woman can't understand what Black people are going through, but ACTIVE RACISTS who orchestrate the injustices that so many Black people face day to day, week to week, and year after year are WELL KNOWN to those who have planned them.

Are you telling me that the law makers up in Washington D.C. and the various state capitals who enact legislation that destroy the Black family separating the children from their parents, allows discrimination in the work place, sends thousands of Black males to prison, and allows drugs to flood the community.......are you telling me THEY don't know what type of impact they're having and what they're doing?

They know ALL too well.

 

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NO, Pioneer1, I'm saying BLACK FOLK DON'T KNOW what law makers in Washington are doing; that the government are the true culprits behind drugs in our community, separating families, and making Black men and women more susceptible to prisons than Whites. White folk know exactly what they're doing, driving away our spirit to fight, fixing only some of the problems they cause so we think they are the heroes. Flashing the 'good life' in our faces than prosecute us for pursuing a life towards 'easy street.' 

 

Only Blackman and woman know what it does to us psychologically, what it actually does to our spirit, pride, and sense of independence. NO WHITE CAN KNOW THAT unless they are Black.  

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Hey did you hear Ben Carson's new stupidity, going up on the rent in public housing in Richmond, VA. Oh, by the way, Ben Carson got fired from Johns Hopkins.

Troy, my password is 218.Don't know why y'all don't have it.

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I dunno about the password. I do t know them the software handles that. You may need to reset it

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Blaming poor people for poverty is like blaming the Jews for the Holocaust, and African slaves for Slavery, victimizing the victim.Hillary Clinton won the popular vote but Donald Trump is still the president. What are we poor people to do?

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4 hours ago, Queen X said:

What are we poor people to do?

 

That's the question worth $1, the answer of which is worth $100,000,000,000,000 … and far more- easier asked than answered.   To say improvised people, have no part in their own poverty is (also) like saying the bank played no part in its robbery; keeping money in the community where poor struggle, what did the Jews do in Germany that caused them to be victimized, etc., and was it not the naive, welcoming, 'happy-go-lucky,' greedy nature of Blacks in Africa that made them available to involuntary servitude?  

 

By no means does such minimal involvement take from the evil nature of human beings, but it does point to an irreconcilable side of nature no-one has a solution to.  The right of a country to use capitalism, military authority, and control over its people have always existed, in one form or another since the beginning of time.  What poor people can do, to hear me tell about it, is to adhere to age-old-adage "every man and woman for her/his self and God for us all" except for the children.  Let's face it, we Black folk will sell each out in heartbeat, for a miserable personal gain, so will White folks, to each other.  If only optimism outweighed pessimism historically, hopeless future of modernity would serve as an example. But that's only wishful thingking. 

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Poverty, for the descendendants of formerly enslaved people in America is a complex problem.  We have been, and are, bombarded by a wide variety of assaults.  What I do not is that our poverty will not be alleviated by the actions of out government alone.  The government is necessary, but not sufficient to solver poverty in our communities. 

 

Black people must to do most of the work. This is a very difficult thing for us to do.  This was made crystal clear to me only after I became a business owner. AALBC has lasted more than 20 years only because of my community.  

 

If we are to pull the Black community out of poverty we have to be the ones do to it.

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@Troy: You are right, only the Black community can bring about the change needed to make a difference, for us. Your optimism that 'we will come together' to make such change is an entirely different equation, however. 400+ years of indoctrination into the White system of economics, social control, and imbedded psychological trauma of survival fall well beyond the definition of simple PTSD, not something we'll shed overnight.

 

I do accept the 'possibility' we can and will come together and bring about change though. 

 

But to what end? As part of human species, is it within our nature to do things differently; or just repeat a process of life, living (even in control) as the evil Whiteman has since the beginning of time; if so, will we establish a society of equality and justice instead of self-preservation by any means necessary?

 

I say it this way because, I believe, there's no way White folk will survive the storm they've created. The last man standing will be the first man on earth. Black folk.

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Well the so called "evil white man" has not been around since the beginning of time 🙂 Indeed for most of recorded human history The Black man flourished.  The "evil white man" has only been wreaking havoc for a couple thousand years, and much of this time they were running around killing each other.  Just think about the last 150 years; Civil war 800K, WWi 20M, WW2 60M...

 

Sure darker skinned people will almost certainly outlast melanin deficient people, but that is because they are so outnumbered.

 

 

 

  

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@Troy: Perhaps just 'evil' is better; sorry, the racism within me, I'm constantly trying to check, need to throw 'White or Jew' into every explanation of suffering children, corruption, and unnecessary destruction. Kind of like using abortion to check unwanted pregnancy, I'm simply avoiding avoidable pitfalls that could cloud the mind of debatable truths. 

 

Survival by greater numbers only, not superior intellect is equally disheartening.  Selfish, ethnocentric, greedy mentalities multiplied, and in-charge. History too is doomed to record over and over, the same story, only different versions.  

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I don't consider myself poor but I'm lower middle class....working class.
But having worked with and around poor people for decades I believe that many poor people absolutely are responsible for the poverty they're in.

Now some people are poor because of circumstances that aren't their fault......
Like not being smart enough to start a business or get a degree.
Or not having a talent or skill to market and capitalize off of.
Some people have disabilities that limit their income and ability to generate wealth.

These things many people can't help.

But many others suffer from povety as a DIRECT result of the same habits:

Spending what little money they DO have on cigarettes, alcohol, drugs, and the lottery.
Relying on family and friends to help them out instead of properly preparing for the future
Jumping from job to job cussing out the bosses and not showing up to work on time.
Engaging in activities like fighting and getting drunk and high which keeps them in and out of jail or the hospital.

Legal and medical fees will DRAIN you if you're not careful.

 

 


K2

 

sorry, the racism within me, I'm constantly trying to check, need to throw 'White or Jew'


Which is why I said on another thread that your CLAIM of believing race doesn't exists was a FALSE and DISINGENUOUS one.

How can you truly believe something DOES NOT exist when you yourself are constantly referencing it in every other converstation?

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19 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

But having worked with and around poor people for decades I believe that many poor people absolutely are responsible for the poverty they're in.

 

That's the same language, idealisms White folks harbor about Blacks. It isn't surprising you feel the same way.  Thinking Blacks should focus on servitude jobs and such, you might also believe that Black folk were better off as slaves.  It's okay to admit it, a great many Whites feel that way also.  It's your right!

 

26 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:


How can you truly believe something DOES NOT exist when you yourself are constantly referencing it in every other converstation?

 

Because it's means of communication, the verbage people understand. It is possible to make use of something, rhetorical terms and disagree with it's validity. But since you're a die-hard true believer go on and believe race is something more than a word, that's why White folks gave it to you. 

 

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That's the same language, idealisms White folks harbor about Blacks. It isn't surprising you feel the same way.

 

If you'd hop the next flight out of Israel and come to the United States and SEE FOR YOURSELF what Black folks are saying and thinking.....perhaps you'd realize that I'm not the only one who feels this way.

And I didn't blame ALL poor people for their condition.....or even most.

I said MANY.






Thinking Blacks should focus on servitude jobs and such, you might also believe that Black folk were better off as slaves. It's okay to admit it, a great many Whites feel that way also. It's your right!


Black folks weren't better off as slaves, but we DID do a lot better as a community RIGHT AFTER slavery when we had a stronger work ethic and more manual labor skills.

Directly after slavery Black folks with hammers and saws went around this nation building entire cities with houses, schools, churches, post offices, markets, ect.....with their own hands.

Today AfroAmericans have traded in their hammers and saws for business suits and college degrees....and what have they built to show for it????

The only thing being built is more debt.



 

Because it's means of communication, the verbage people understand. It is possible to make use of something, rhetorical terms and disagree with it's validity.

In other words.....

You'd rather propagate a concept you actually believe is FALSE just to help the conversation flow easier???

Man, that says a lot about your integrity.....or lack of it.

 



 

But since you're a die-hard true believer go on and believe race is something more than a word, that's why White folks gave it to you


Lol.....
Uh.....don't you mean that's why I gave it to MYSELF?????

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26 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

I'm not the only one who feels this way.

 

 

"[f]eel" says it all, is nothing more without evidence. I've supported my argument with scholarly articles that the term 'race' has no biological bases and is therefore meaningless when describing, referring to different people.  I've asked before, to no avail, post an argument contrary, if you can.

 

28 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

In other words.....

 

No, exact words only, in numerous posts you alluded to the idea Blacks would be better off seeking servitude opportunities instead of education; that (most) Black folk doesn't have what it takes to succeed in school, etc. Is exactly what you've said. 

 

35 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

You'd rather propagate a concept you actually believe is FALSE just to help the conversation flow easier???

Man, that says a lot about your integrity.....or lack of it.

My integrity entail what I know to be true, can, and have proven with reasonable, sound support by science; that Black folk are capable of being better than Whites, can do anything a Whiteman/woman can do. Which greatly contradict your disbelief in science and your White ideas that seemingly aim to further disenfranchise Black folk as you support Black marginalization.  Everone is not like you. Please, get a legitimate life, stop posting avatar after avatar whenever you're called out, under the guise of privacy.

 

45 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Uh.....don't you mean that's why I gave it to MYSELF?????

 

No, the term race was given to you, by White folks because they know you'll defend it to the death, define it and spread it with vigor to Blacks who question it's usage. 

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"[f]eel" says it all, is nothing more without evidence. I've supported my argument with scholarly articles that the term 'race' has no biological bases and is therefore meaningless when describing, referring to different people. I've asked before, to no avail, post an argument contrary, if you can.


For every article you can produce stating that race DOESN'T exist, I can produce several scientific articles where RACE ITSELF is used as a factor.

Again, my argument with you ISN'T about whether race exists or not.....

It's about your COGNITIVE DISSONANCE.

Your claiming that race does not exist while at the same time focusing on it in damn near every discussion.

 

 

 

 

No, exact words only, in numerous posts you alluded to the idea Blacks would be better off seeking servitude opportunities instead of education; that (most) Black folk doesn't have what it takes to succeed in school, etc. Is exactly what you've said. 


I NEVER said that Blacks would be better off in servitude. Although if we were SERVING EACHOTHER......servitude probably wouldn't be so bad.


What I HAVE suggested and still suggest is that AfroAmericans would be not only wealthier but in a better socio-economic condition in general if we focused more on mastering skilled labor, agriculture, and other trades instead of focusing so much on what YOU are calling an "education" but what is REALLY just useless training at White institutions.

Education teaches you to think for yourself.
What most Black students get at White institutions is TRAINING.





My integrity entail what I know to be true, can, and have proven with reasonable, sound support by science; that Black folk are capable of being better than Whites, can do anything a Whiteman/woman can do. Which greatly contradict your disbelief in science and your White ideas that seemingly aim to further disenfranchise Black folk as you support Black marginalization. Everone is not like you. Please, get a legitimate life, stop posting avatar after avatar whenever you're called out, under the guise of privacy.


And this is EXACTLY what I mean about your COGNITIVE DISSONANCE.

First you claim that science dismisses the idea of race....THEN you turn around and claim science supports that Blacks can do the same as Whites, which establishes a racial difference between the two.

 


 

Please, get a legitimate life, stop posting avatar after avatar whenever you're called out, under the guise of privacy

Man if you live way the hell over in Israel and are so lonely that you have to resort to trolling Black websites all day and all night.....because you NEVER seem to take a break....perhaps YOU'RE the one who needs a "life".

Almost everytime I post, you seem to be on it and respond in less than a hour.....LOL.

What the hell do you DO all day?
Sit around smoking cigarettes and sipping on hot coco while monitoring this site for my responses??

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2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

For every article you can produce stating that race DOESN'T exist, I can produce several scientific articles where RACE ITSELF is used as a factor.

 

AND NO, YOU HAVEN'T EVER proven any of the preposterous assertions you've made, posts you always attempt to distance yourself when obviously wrong, inaccurate, or just 'zone-bound.'  Everyone on this site agrees the term race is factor little more than simply because the word exists, YOU, however, believe it is more than just a factor of human language/non-descriptive communication; but keep avoiding supporting your claims.  You say you can but never do!!!  If so this sentence would be a proof, not an excuse.

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I NEVER said that Blacks would be better off in servitude. Although if we were SERVING EACHOTHER......servitude probably wouldn't be so bad.


What I HAVE suggested and still suggest is that AfroAmericans would be not only wealthier but in a better socio-economic condition in general if we focused more on mastering skilled labor, agriculture, and other trades instead of focusing so much on what YOU are calling an "education" but what is REALLY just useless training at White institutions.

Education teaches you to think for yourself.
What most Black students get at White institutions is TRAINING.

 

YOU, ACTUALLY HAVE 'suggested' exactly that.  Learning to think 'White' happens without education, just look at yourself and how you think.  Believing what you do is not a skilled labor; industries dominated by the hegemony should be the aim for economic success without attempting higher education.  I hate to break to you, but you are not special!

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

First you claim that science dismisses the idea of race

 

Science does not - has never purported to dismiss use or the idea of Race at all, but to only 'limit' its use for scientific/biological considerations.  To check its use in the very manner you're using the term.

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Man if you live way the hell over in Israel and are so lonely that you have to resort to trolling Black websites all day and all night.....because you NEVER seem to take a break....perhaps YOU'RE the one who needs a "life".

Almost everytime I post, you seem to be on it and respond in less than a hour.....LOL.

What the hell do you DO all day?
Sit around smoking cigarettes and sipping on hot coco while monitoring this site for my responses??

 

The time difference here, my leisure allow me to whatever I want, whenever I want.  Actually, today, until next week I'm at the Dead Sea near Jericho.  Floating around in the Dead Sea, hanging out around the hotel poolside helps me to focus on whats happening in the US.  Alerts on my laptop let me respond to posts immediately. 

 

What's the matter Pioneer1, am I moving too fast for you? You don't have enough time to get you lie together.  It takes time to deceive, the right way.

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