Pioneer1 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 In another thread Mzuri wrote: Quote Whenever I talk to anyone on the phone lately, at a business or a government agency, I always ask them if they are working from home. And they always say, "Yes." Part of a larger discussion about so much of the workforce is now working from home instead of in an office or building in a more professional setting. Many see this becoming the "new normal" for the U.S. workforce and my initial reaction to this was one of disdain. My response was:Besides this worker-employer relationship being so informal, ghetto, and unprofessional....at the end of the day CORPORATE is the benefactor because they no longer have to provide office space or stationary for their employees and can save BILLIONS of dollars.But how much do the employees get out of this deal? But after thinking about it a little while..... I wonder would it be better for most employees TOO in the long run? -Save money on gas -Save money on buying professional clothes for work -Less conflict with co-workers working in close spaces with eachother -Less incidents of racism and sexism. -More time to take care of personal needs -Even better for those with disabilities who can do their jobs easier at home. Perhaps it WOULD actually be better working from home not just for the employer but for the employee too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 @Pioneer1, yeah mayne, most office work is done with a computer and a telephone. A laptop can go anywhere. Before the pandemic, many employers were already allowing their employees to work from home a few days per week. Once things went into a pseudo-lockdown mode, it was easy to tell those folks and others to stay home. The work from home (telework) arrangement is mutually beneficial to employers and employees. In addition to the things mentioned above, a few more: 1) employers will rethink their leased space requirements 2) less energy usage in office buildings 3) employees less worry about childcare 4) less traffic congestion 5) employees actually use less sick days That's just off the top of my head. But, the computer is the invention that has changed the way we work and play. About 20 years ago, I knew more folks would be working from home or remotely. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mzuri Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 10 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Perhaps it WOULD actually be better working from home not just for the employer but for the employee too! 8 hours ago, ProfD said: That's just off the top of my head. But, the computer is the invention that has changed the way we work and play. About 20 years ago, I knew more folks would be working from home or remotely. ************************************************************************************ @Pioneer1 and @ProfD Working or running a business from home has lots of benefits. The main thing that people don't consider is that IT COSTS MONEY TO GO TO WORK. When most people get ready to retire, the thought of living on less income scares them, but they don't think about how much they spend going to work every day. As you mentioned there are clothing expenses, dry cleaning, transportation, automobile expenses, car insurance, lunches and other meals, snacks, drinks, incidental expenses, contributions to office funds, coffee funds, gift funds, etc. You know how it is, every time you turn around you're spending money on something. Most of those expenses are eliminated when you work from home. One thing that people don't think of is that you can reduce your car insurance costs if you don't drive your car on a daily basis. You need to call your agent and let them know your driving habits have changed and you can often get a reduction on your insurance rates. Other expenses will increase, for example your electric bill will be higher since you'll probably have the TV and other electronics running throughout the day, and you will use more of the other items around your house like hand soap. But when you eat or drink something out of your refrigerator, it is cheaper than buying something while you are out of the house. Making your own schedule, taking breaks when you need to, eating when you're hungry, taking a nap, caring for your family, and just being in your own home is much better than being out there in the rat race. And earning income while you're doing your own thing, plus the additional benefit of having some peace of mind is priceless. ************************************************************************************ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer1 Posted October 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Mzuri & ProfD I was already leaning towards it being BETTER for the employees of most corporate jobs if they worked from home, but the examples you two provided help push me further in that direction....lol. Do you know what I kept thinking about during the discussion of working from home? Will Smith and that character he played in Pursuit of Happyness. That movie was so good I decided to go out and buy the BOOK by Chris Gardner himself. And as usual the book is much better than the movie. But I kept thinking about Mr.Garnder and how much easier things would have been for HIM if he had a laptop or just access to a computer and didn't have to rush around looking for a place to keep his baby while getting showered and dressed to go work in an office. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mzuri Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 42 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: But I kept thinking about Mr.Garnder and how much easier things would have been for HIM if he had a laptop or just access to a computer and didn't have to rush around looking for a place to keep his baby while getting showered and dressed to go work in an office. ************************************************************************************ @Pioneer1 I liked that movie as well, but the struggles such as the image you posted of them sleeping in public restrooms were hard to watch. The real life Chris Gardner should have had a better plan. But things happen in life, we all know that, and we deal with things as best we can. I’m currently developing content on the topics of work at home home-based business making money online franchise opportunities side hustles and passive income I may post more about this here, and in the meanwhile I will continue researching and trying out some of these methods myself to see if they actually generate income. Tomorrow I will take delivery of my very first Crypto miner. I investigated thoroughly until I found a system that will work the best for me. I am super excited about this and will let you all know how it goes. Stay strong everybody! ************************************************************************************ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer1 Posted October 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Mzuri I liked that movie as well, but the struggles such as the image you posted of them sleeping in public restrooms were hard to watch. The real life Chris Gardner should have had a better plan. But things happen in life, we all know that, and we deal with things as best we can. It's precisely for THESE type of situations that I support the U.S. having such a strong safetynet. You can make all the plans you want..then something comes out of left field and hits you upside the head and you're sitting there wondering... WTF????? Around June of 2020 I was laid off and collecting more money on unemployment than when I was working! If you remember people were talking about how bad the Winter was going to be, calling it a "dark winter", and how many people were gonna die. I was concerned about society collapsing before I could spend that money I was getting...LOL Now it's October of 2021! Society is still standing, MORE people are actually dying every day than their were a year ago but there's no talk of a shut down. And instead of an over abundance of money, I'm now unemployed. Add to that the concern about being forced to get the jab just to get a job and the increased pressure from society to get it!!!"Get the shot...get the shot!!!" Talk about a fucking twilight zone....lol. Shit happens and we need strong safetynets to catch people and protect them from hitting rock bottom.. You never know WHAT type of situation you'll find yourself in despite your plans. Tomorrow I will take delivery of my very first Crypto miner. I investigated thoroughly until I found a system that will work the best for me. I am super excited about this and will let you all know how it goes. I'm happy for you. I wish I could share in your excitement too, but it's too complex for me to understand how beneficial it is. I have studied a bit more about the "mining" of cryptocurrency and it just seems so complex. I don't see how anyone can take so much valuable time and mental energy let alone invest their money into something so complex. I'd rather play the lottery. It's far more straight forward....lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mzuri Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: I have studied a bit more about the "mining" of cryptocurrency and it just seems so complex. I don't see how anyone can take so much valuable time and mental energy let alone invest their money into something so complex. ************************************************************************************ @Pioneer1 I promise you that Crypto mining is not that complicated. And you are just as smart or even smarter than the Crypto people I have seen at YouTube and Reddit. I researched for a couple of weeks until I found a system that will work for me and that I am comfortable with. I did not want those GPUs that run hot, make noise, and use excessive amounts of electricity. I purchased my Crypto mining unit on Thursday night and the company phoned me on Friday morning to inform me that the unit has shipped and that they would help me set it all up once I receive it. Maybe they called me because I'm a woman and they assumed that I'm not technical. Or maybe it was because of the amount of money that I spent. Either way, I will be happy with whatever help they offer. I am reading a book about this particular Crypto miner because I want to maximize my profits. Other than that, it seems straightforward and easy to understand. If you are not comfortable dealing with Crypto currency or mining Crypto, that is alright. There are other ways for you to earn income from home. You will need to research until you find something that works for you, something that makes you comfortable, and that will generate the income that is worth your time and effort. That is all that matters. ************************************************************************************ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Shit happens and we need strong safetynets to catch people and protect them from hitting rock bottom.. You never know WHAT type of situation you'll find yourself in despite your plans. I'd rather play the lottery. It's far more straight forward....lol. There's no amount of planning for the most unforeseen circumstances. While the US does provide safety nets up to a point, it could be better. However, communities can do more to protect themselves in the event of hardship too. In communities, folks should know their neighbors. Have a transportation service that can assist those who do not drive. Be able to provide emergency day care services. Establish and maintain a food pantry. There's a lot folks can do to help each other and potential business opportunities as well. The brilliant Nas said that "buck that bought a bottle could have won the lotto". I don't like the odds of winning the lottery but the sentiment rings true in terms of investing in something with a potential ROI (return on investment) rather than a destructive indulgence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer1 Posted November 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 Mzuri I think I'll follow your advice and the advice of quite a few others and do more indepth research in this crypto business. ProfD The current safetynets in the U.S have mile wide gaps in them. They allow to many people to fall through. In most places the rent and mortgage is too high and there are too many stipulations and requirements just to get an apartment today. Back about 40 or 50 years ago all you needed was first months rent and a deposit....and maybe a job. They were more concerned about you paying the rent than HOW you made you money. About 30 years ago they started doing more and more background checks and credit checks. Now renting the average apartment is like enrolling to a university...lol. So a lot of people can't even rent a home, many have to end up shacking up with or living off of friends and relatives. Very few people are truly INDPENDENT today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mzuri Posted November 2, 2021 Report Share Posted November 2, 2021 3 hours ago, ProfD said: In communities, folks should know their neighbors. Have a transportation service that can assist those who do not drive. Be able to provide emergency day care services. Establish and maintain a food pantry. ************************************************************************************ @ProfD Do people even try to know their neighbors anymore? It seems to me that most everybody has been keeping to themselves, even before COVID started. Besides that, many families seem to be estranged from each other, where the adult siblings are squabbling over inheritances, or fighting about who will take care of their elderly parents. The adult children are not trying to help their parents at all, and the parents do not want to be bothered with the adult children because the parents do not approve of the children's lifestyle choices or other reasons. From what I can tell, people are not looking out for each other at all. Have you noticed this, or is it just me? ************************************************************************************ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted November 2, 2021 Report Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Mzuri said: Do people even try to know their neighbors anymore? From what I can tell, people are not looking out for each other at all. Have you noticed this, or is it just me? @Mzuri, I've definitely noticed everything you've written. People have been sliding down that slope for several decades. I've always made it a point to know my neighbors especially those who live closest to my house. It just makes sense to me. I think it's ridiculous for people to live around each for years and not know the person across the street. I've seen it. Yet, if something was to happen to their home, they'd be looking around "for a friend" to see if anybody saw anything. If I have a package delivered to my house, I can call or text a few people in my neighborhood who would pull it indoors until I got home. So, regardless of whether I'm doing my yard work or washing my vehicle or whatever, I'm like the neighborhood mayor in that I speak to everyone passing by and hold conversations with the folks I know personally. This past summer, I thought about doing a pandemic-friendly outdoor concert in my driveway. The neighbors would have been able to listen to the music from their own homes whether it was the porch or a lawn chair in their driveway or looking out the window. I even talked to a few neighbors about it. They were ready to fire up grills and cook food and turn it into a community block party. I got busy with other things and didn't do it. But, in the spring or summer of 2022, I'm definitely going to make it happen. Who knows, maybe I'll run for mayor in 2024. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 23 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: months rent and a deposit....and maybe a job. They were more concerned about you paying the rent than HOW you made you money. That is because management companies automate everything. Be 5 seconds late and there is and treat to evict notice on your door. I hear you on the crypto mining. Based upon what I know it is difficult and expensive. At least for Bitcoin. i recognize @Mzuri’s excitement. Mzuri keep up appraised of your progress. I’d truly hope you make some profit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delano Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 I believe "Hellos" turn bricks into a neighborhood. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 9 hours ago, Delano said: I believe "Hellos" turn bricks into a neighborhood. Amen bro. You're absolutely correct. One day, I'll be able to make a significant point as succinctly as @Delano. In the meantime, please bear with my verbosity. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delano Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 hours ago, ProfD said: Amen bro. You're absolutely correct. One day, I'll be able to make a significant point as succinctly as @Delano. In the meantime, please bear with my verbosity. Different strokes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 @Mzuri and @Delano I hope the like and thanks isn't your way of telling me to shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delano Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, ProfD said: @Mzuri and @Delano I hope the like and thanks isn't your way of telling me to shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mzuri Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 @ProfD My likes and thanks are my way of telling you I read your thoughtful post and that I think it’s relevant, sometimes thought-provoking, and that I generally agree with what you said. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Mzuri said: My likes and thanks are my way of telling you I read your thoughtful post and that I think it’s relevant, sometimes thought-provoking, and that I generally agree with what you said. That is all. I figured as much and appreciate it. I'm just trying to contribute to the conversation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mzuri Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 22 hours ago, Troy said: i recognize @Mzuri’s excitement. Mzuri keep up appraised of your progress. I’d truly hope you make some profit. I just received my first Crypto miner on Monday. I will be mining Ethereum. Once I get everything going and it generates income I will let you guys know so that if anyone here is interested, you can get into it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delano Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 https://www.paymentsjournal.com/criminal-crypto-miners-are-stealing-your-cpu/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mzuri Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, Delano said: https://www.paymentsjournal.com/criminal-crypto-miners-are-stealing-your-cpu/ Thank you for sharing this article link. But my Crypto miner is not running from my computer CPU or any GPU system. It is something completely different. I found a system that doesn't run hot, doesn't make noise, and doesn't use a whole bunch of electricity. Once I get it going, I will provide more details here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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