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@DelSpeak for yourself. Pioneer's mixed metaphor makes no sense; not surprising considering the source. Guess since you had no rebuttal to Mel's epic take-down of him, you had to resort to praising his sorry attempt at humor. Better luck next time.

That last post was both profound and insightful @Cynique.

@DelContrary to what you say, you're doing a very thorough job of arguing points here. If facts dispute a person's opinion, then "i don't agree" that people are wrong in disputing a person's opinion. They are doing him a favor by educating him. i don't deny anybody an opinion. What i do find off-putting is the self-glorification that accompanies the expression of an opinion or a fact. Your boy, pioneer, is good at one thing. And that's gloating and patting himself on the back when he "thinks" he's gotten over on somebody. In your effort to make yourself over and become super-tolerant, you have lost all of your flavor. Under the cloak of blandness, you now use the intolerant pioneer as an instrument through which you play out your repressed resentments against others - IMO. LOL Feel perfectly free to correct this opinion.

I thought it was funny, not all humour has to make sense in order for it to be funny. If you can't picture this is will provide an example. Her take down was so good that I am going to argue against myself. And do an even bigger takedown. In addition I am going to use my own style of argument. Although Mel can use whatever style of argument when it is her turn. @Mel Hopkins @Troy @zaji@Cynique @Pioneer1 This is true, which is why I have decided to discuss topics. Instead of arguing points. @Pioneer1

@Delano Ok, you go first. This way I can get up to speed as to what we will accomplish.

Ha Ha man that is funny. Most people like to think they are open even when they are not @Cynique@Mel Hopkins @Pioneer1 @Troy @zaji @Del Strachen @Del

@Pioneer1 I said Probably because I wasn't there. Only a fool would claim something as certain and not have witnessed it. But that's what you do isn't it? As I mentioned if the west were aligned with christianity we wouldn't be worshiping roman gods every day of the week and each month... Ain't nothing christian about polytheism. You did mention Jesus - man you don't even read what you write - so why I'd think you'd research something is beyond me. But Like I mentioned the first time -it was political decision and not jesus or "christ" . According to reports the monk still didn't get it right. But you wouldn't know what I'm talking about anyway. You're right about one thing. I usually don't waste my time arguing with you.

@Pioneer1this is what i said to Del, and i'm sticking by it. Mel doesn't need my assistance because she's doing a great job of neutralizing your inconsistent opinionated pontificating replete with horrible metaphors.

　 Mel For example, if that statement you made were accurate - then today wouldn't be Mars-Day, the god of war day... - If you researched a bit - you'd probably learn that the demarcation probably had to nothing to do with jesus and everything to do with politics ... You say it PROBABLY had nothing to do with Jesus....lol. If you're not sure about it why are you arguing the point in the first place? Besides, I didn't say said Western society was built around Jesus....I said it was built off of CHRISTIANITY with the FIGURE of Christ holding prominence. And yes it has to do with politics, because Christianity WAS/IS a political movement designed to unite the Roman Empire. Which is why they continued using the same Roman deities and customs disguised under different names. further if you got really deep you'd know western science IS African Science Calling Western Science "African Science" is like pointing to a turd in the toilet and calling it a pizza or fruit salad....lol. It may contain ELEMENTS of the original, but it's far too modified to be considered the same. Listen, stop arguing with me about this, you know I'm right.....lol. If you noticed.... Cynique is STAYING OUT of this....lol....because she knows better than to fight with me on it. She's sitting back hiding and leaving you here all by yourself. Zaji Thanks for the link. It too proves what I said about B.C. being religiously based terms.

@Pioneer1because instead of assuming you might discover something new - For example, if that statement you made were accurate - then today wouldn't be Mars-Day, the god of war day... - If you researched a bit - you'd probably learn that the demarcation probably had to nothing to do with jesus and everything to do with politics ... further if you got really deep you'd know western science IS African Science - but you'd only know that if you took the time to research. click for an expanded map

Why on Earth would I go through all of that....lol.....when I already KNOW why? Western society (including it's so-called science) is an out-growth of CHRISTIANITY or CHRISTENDOM in which "Christ" is a prominent figure. And his supposed birth date is the demarcation period, full stop.

Del & Zaji I don't think it is possible to verify most information. I don't know if you can personally verify all of the information you recieve BUT.... You can atleast stop accepting information from KNOWN LIARS. The intelligent thing to do is accept your information from people who are known to have always presented truthful information with no errors or falsehoods or deceptive motives.

Mel Or that can be Before Common Era / Common Era or Current Era Lol....really? Well exactly WHEN does the "common era" begin? And what event supposedly occurred that separates THIS era from the one BEFORE?

@Delano I already mentioned I'm not talking about practitioners. Whatever a priest does in his private life does not change the tenets of religion. S/he may be changed by it but it doesn't change the religion. In fact, this is why excommunication is a thing. If one doesn't adhere or obey the tenets - they can't participate. Science is a study and can be tested. Religion is a belief and even if it could be tested obedience is still required. Or @Pioneer1 that can be Before Common Era / Common Era or Current Era AND "Astronomical year numbering is based on AD/CE year numbering, but follows normal decimal integer numbering more strictly." Other science disciplines also use this dating.

How can you sit up there and say science never espouses religion when the very DATING SYSTEM Western science uses is "B.C" which stands for BEFORE CHRIST????? Claiming that Jesus was a "Christ" or even than a "Christ" was born is a CHRISTIAN/RELIGIOUS concept!

@Troy you said science and religion are largely incompatible. Then ask who even said that. Then you critique me for the word misspelling the word odd. I mean adherents that are the gatekeepers. So that can be scientist, priest and leaders of movements. Buddhism has monks. @Mel Hopkins "religion" for me includes the belief set, the followers , the priest and the high priest. Rupert Sheldrake is talking about science , the practitioner and the entire structure, that is how I read it. However you can decide what aspect you prefer to focus on or exclude. We can decide to discuss it from each others perspective. Which only requires that we accept the other person assumptions and then see whether our perspective position change. An attempt to clarify my position with the exception of Troy I am not saying you are wrong. However I disagree with your statements which may be definitional. And contingent on the word "priest" and "religion"

I completely understand. If I had to write code for the site I would lose my mind. I'm sure you're using php which is quicker and easier, but still the idea of updating so many pages would prevent any progress, but you said you've made it an easier process so I can't wait to see what happens when you can focus on creating content. As you know the more there is the greater the search results. Which is all that matters now since people no longer browse the web and discover new sites. You are relying solely on converting people who discover your content via search. On the shoes vs books, there isn't even a competition. Kicks by a thousand miles. I wouldn't hesitate to say guys have a minimum of 10 pair of kicks and maybe half a hardback. They may have some paperbacks, lol. I make it point to prominently display books in all of my videos. I used to have my whiteboard covering my office book shelf now it's in every video. I think it's important people see that stuff. Let me know if I can do anything in my daily updates.