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@zaji, so you don't believe that some beliefs are wrong or incorrect and others are right and correct? If this does not accurately describe what you mean, you'll need to clarify it a bit more (at least for me) perhaps an example would be a good why to start.

@Pioneer1 I do believe that the vast majority of people are intellectually capable of getting a college degree. The biggest challenge is not intellectual. It is financial. I also believe that a high school education from 50 years ago is worth a college education today (@Cynique what do you think). I mean many in my parent's generation had little more than a grade school education and seem better prepared for life that a college grad today... Even when I was in school it was simply more difficult to do anything, writing a paper required a level of discipline that is unnecessary today. Today you can just type all you thoughts and some program will correct the spelling, properly format it, into whatever style you want and even fix your the grammar. I remember how frustrated I would be with a single typo-- too many and you had to start all over. Programming was more difficult, I won;t even talk about access to information... Again we have all the information in the world at our finger tips and people are less informed and greater numbers seem misinformed.

@Kalexander btw Troy and I have been to each but others homes. You are mistaking public disagreement for animosity.

@Kalexander14Oh, Puleeze. As much as i butt heads with Pioneer who is regular poster of long standing on this site, i find your accusations ridiculous. Also you might be interested in knowing that Del is a college graduate. You can't just explode on this site and start making charges and judgments about others who have been posting here before you came here comporting yourself as an authority on everything.

@Pioneer1 you're so paranoid that you actually think somebody is monitoring a nonentity like you. I have nothing to hide. And in comparison to the millions who post pictures and info on FaceBook, SnapChat and YouTube, the number of people who have been killed over this, is miniscule. Far, far lower than random or accidental killings that occur off line. My complaint about your need for anonymity, is the deceptiveness you display by co-opting the picture of an actual person to hide behind, when you could use an avatar or a symbol.

@Pioneer1Until this very moment, I had no idea that isn’t your image brother @Pioneer1, and it could (actually) be your true image for all I know. It doesn’t matter. What does matter is ‘why,’ why would a person not want to reveal her/his self instead of using, say, no image at all? An even more pertinent question is what perception it is you’re trying to convey using a false image, and why, if in fact that isn’t your true image? Sister @Cynique has this annoying knack for her dogmatic honesty very often worth paying close attention to. And, dammit, she’s right again! Considering your replies as to education, which I had the pleasure of discussing, adamantly disagreeing with you that higher education is too much of burden for Black folk to handle, or words to that effect. I ask myself now, for what reason would a person suggest such an idea even if it were true. And especially when I’ve just scolded a Black man for being uninformed. Am I to resolve that’s really your honest position, thought, or feeling? Because it is not a fact higher education is too difficult a task for Blacks. Oh, and then there's your comment agreeing with me again, that you don't subscribe to Democrat nor Republican. Was it some covert way of dissuading Blacks from voting for the best of the worse? Or on the other hand, if you are with the Justice Department monitoring chatter of violence or overthrowing the Damn Government; then I definitely, really want you here as proof of this sites innocence of breaking the law. In either case, you already know about me and my background. That I don't play that type of shit, and I'm not stupid. The other stuff is too embarrassing and I'll sue (even Pro Se) if you do reveal it. You know I'm capable of doing that too as I've succeeded before. The Attorney General of a certain State is still reeling from my kicking her White ass around the globe. Come clean, brother, if you are a brother; or come dirty, but without spraying on deodorant to hide the BS BO. Even if you really are one of the White internet trolls infiltrating Black websites I'd still welcome conversing with you. It is still a marginally wide and not-so-wonderful world. I'm just saying. Your credibility is at stake.

@Pioneer1. The means, brother, is any ‘best’ option available that grants one the ability to excel beyond the ordinary. An ‘end’ is just that, the end which everyone eventually approaches. Education, unless you have a better ‘best’ option, is the most available best option where our people get the rare opportunity to face the ‘end’ with dignity and on terms other than at another’s mercy. Anyone who endeavors an education to beg someone else for an opportunity, or for the sole purpose of getting rich had already lost. Thus, the term “educated fools.” No, education is the vehicle whereby we make our motion better. Make her/his actions meaningful and effective. All things considered, modernism, post-reconstruction, providing one’s own living standards; building houses, etc. is no easy feat. I understand ancient African nations lived off the “fat of the land” with little more than community cooperation. But then came domestication of livestock, controlled agriculture, all controlled by someone else. Instead of ancient “hunting and gathering” on an as-needed chore. America is not Africa, and even African cannot survive by today’s standards Additionally, the system you assert White men set-up wasn’t set-up by White men at all. There were over 1000 universities in Africa while White folk was still eating raw meat. And as beholden to White folk, fuck debt, try to collect it when I’m dead because my children will know how to keep you out of their pockets. Institutions you claim we should establish just won’t happen without approval from the Government, I guarantee we won’t get since it is already their effort to keep us uninformed and dependent on construction jobs and in factories at non-livable wages. Finally, show me a Black adult or youth person who is unable to learn, or lack the capacity, discipline to commit to learning advanced information and I’ll show a person who has mental emotional disadvantages; burdens of which are not an asset to the community. Thank God for jails, mental hospitals, and prisons that separate the sane who are awake, from insane who may never come out of slumber. I refuse to believe someone who understands how to solve a quadratic equation won’t crave learning analytical calculus. Or conversing with our Black scholars won’t lead them to learn philosophic logic and reasoning. In-fact a Black person has the capacity for the sciences and academics to levels unheard of if committed to the discipline. Please, don’t mimic Gorka, Bannon, Betsy Davis and the other White ethnocentric mentalities that advocate inferiority of Black folk. Change your mind about higher education!

@Pioneer1. The means, brother, is any ‘best’ option available that grants one the ability to excel beyond the ordinary. An ‘end’ is just that, the end which everyone eventually approaches. Education, unless you have a better ‘best’ option, is the most available best option where our people get the rare opportunity to face the ‘end’ with dignity and on terms other than at another’s mercy. Anyone who endeavors an education to beg someone else for an opportunity, or for the sole purpose of getting rich had already lost. Thus, the term “educated fools.” No, education is the vehicle whereby we make our motion better. Make her/his actions meaningful and effective. All things considered, modernism, post-reconstruction, providing one’s own living standards; building houses, etc. is no easy feat. I understand ancient African nations lived off the “fat of the land” with little more than community cooperation. But then came domestication of livestock, controlled agriculture, all controlled by someone else. Instead of ancient “hunting and gathering” on an as-needed chore. America is not Africa, and even African cannot survive by today’s standards Additionally, the system you assert White men set-up wasn’t set-up by White men at all. There were over 1000 universities in Africa while White folk was still eating raw meat. And as beholden to White folk, fuck debt, try to collect it when I’m dead because my children will know how to keep you out of their pockets. Institutions you claim we should establish just won’t happen without approval from the Government, I guarantee we won’t get since it is already their effort to keep us uninformed and dependent on construction jobs and in factories at non-livable wages. Finally, show me a Black adult or youth person who is unable to learn, or lack the capacity, discipline to commit to learning advanced information and I’ll show a person who has mental emotional disadvantages; burdens of which are not an asset to the community. Thank God for jails, mental hospitals, and prisons that separate the sane who are awake, from insane who may never come out of slumber. I refuse to believe someone who understands how to solve a quadratic equation won’t crave learning analytical calculus. Or conversing with our Black scholars won’t lead them to learn philosophic logic and reasoning. In-fact a Black person has the capacity for the sciences and academics to levels unheard of if committed to the discipline. Please, don’t mimic Gorka, Bannon, Betsy Davis and the other White ethnocentric mentalities that advocate inferiority of Black folk. Change your mind about higher education!

, I don't discourage a person from getting a good education any more than I discourage someone from becoming a professional athlete. Meaning...... If they have the ABILITY to do it, by all means do it. I just don't believe most people have the ABILITY to achieve a professional degree. So I believe it's a waste of valuable time expecting them to. I think this society has trained too many of our youth to focus too much on the MEANS and not enough on the END. Unless you just love scholarly work and studying for hours on end, academic education is merely a means...one of many....not an end. The end is being able to support yourself and family, have a happy and meaningful life and accumulate wealth. There are thousands of Black people with degrees who STILL aren't attaining these valuable goals....so what does that say about the value of higher education? Because at the end of the day most of our educated Black people STILL have to go to White people begging them for jobs and opportunities. Back during Reconstruction right after slavery Black people who could barely read a book were able to build towns for themselves, houses to live in, hospitals, schools, churches, markets, raise their families, and eat better than many are eating today. Keep in mind that the same men who build the prisons are the same ones who built most of the educational institutions.....and for the same purposes....to control this society. I say we need to stop relying so much on systems White men set up to keep us beholden to them and focus on building our own systems and institutions that will allow us to live the kind of life we want to live.

And look at how so many people have been robbed and murdered BECAUSE of Facebook. Hell, look at how many people have been getting killed LIVE why they were actually posting on Facebook! Some things you just can't help, we know the internet is being monitored......but when you recklessly and voluntarily put all your business out in the street with nothing really to gain by it, that's down right foolish.

I heard they are trying to change the law in Kentucky (I think that was the state) to make the legal age of marriage 18, or 17 in the parent permission. Seems the state has come under fire for allowing children as young as 13 to get married. These are mostly white girls I'm sure, given the state's demographics. The problem of over sexualiztion of girls is cultural. Sure our most vulnerable are often the most exploited. So perhaps this make Black girls particularly vulnerable. I doubt, Pioneer, you'll find any evidence to support the statement that Black girls become sexually mature earlier than white girls. But I don't doubt that is your experience.

One of the reasons the incarceration rate is so high is because there are TOO MANY LAWS. Not only do you have thousands of FEDERAL laws, but you have thousands more of STATE and LOCAL laws.....so many that no one citizen can know all of them. So you end up breaking them inadvertently. There are so many laws on the books now that even lawyers don't know all of them and have to often times refer their clients to OTHER lawyers who specialize in certain aspect of the law. You have to have special lawyers for custody battles. Special lawyers for medical malpractice. Special lawyers for real estate. This society is becoming too complex and those who aren't smart enough to manage and manuever there way through often get caught up in the system.

I know exacty what you're saying. This is one of the reasons I no longer call myself a Democrat (or a Republican). Malcolm X used to compare the Republicans and Democrats to wolves and foxes. Both of them want to eat you but they just have different methods of redering you vulnerable. Atleast when you have openly racist ultra-capitalist Republicans in office you don't expect for them to do anything for you......so you're forced to DO FOR SELF. When Democrats get in office many Black people seem to be lulled into a sleep thinking everything is alright and humanity is saved. While Black people were celebrating 8 years of Barack Obama, as a whole their economic and political bases were slowly being eroded and racist ultra-conservatives at the state and local level were slowly taking over major portions of the nation.

Absolutely. Not all of course but enough. 600,000 laid their lives down in the civil war, dying for a cause that was really not in their self interest., but in the interest of the wealthy.

@Delano why do you think I asked you the question? Answer: because I had not read that post before I asked the question... obviously. @Kalexander2 "White folks up to that fact so they realize they are the true targets." I agree.

@zaji, Finally someone who refuses to enrich Hollyweird. Even my going to see the film, just so that I could talk about it, actually reinforces the thing I'm lamenting. @Kalexander2, yes you pretty much summed up my impression of the film. The other part is that I find it sad that we are at a point in our collective consciousness (or lack their of), that we need Stan Lee's Wakanda to bring us inspiration. Of actual history is inspirational, but we as a people are unaware of it. Again, white folks are running around emulating Thor (save on halloween). Why? Because they don't need to. @Delano I'm aware of Tomi. I you did not need to eave this site to share the same information: https://aalbc.com/authors/author.php?author_name=Tomi+Adeyemi So Bill Jennings has an old Black Panther comic? So do I. Are you trying to suggest that this is evidence of the BBP took it's logo and was influenced by the comic book character? (@Delano Please answer yes or no and why.)

Whose problem is it? Not mine. Disagreeing with you is effortless and is not something i go out of my way to do. i don't regularly disagree with anyone else on this board because they aren't the kind of person you are, someone who, incidentally, hides behind the picture of another man, apparently ashamed to show his own mug. You have , of course, chosen to ignore how certain other posters here also reject most of your claims which are reinforced by your obsession with white brainwashing, not aware that you, yourself, are brainwashed by a bunch of dead or over-the-hill Afro-centrists.

So why do we care? i am not preoccupied with things over which i have no control.

It's one thing to be a loser with a good attitude. Another to be a winner with a rotten attitude. But if you're usually wrong AND you have a rotten attitude....lol...WATCH OUT NOW! 　 Zaji I know I am moving into a little bit of objectivity when I begin to black out when even those whom I believe are right, become egotistical and bombastic in their responses. Any attack, to me, causes me to back off and lose a tad bit of respect for those whose views I happen to agree with. I then sink into questioning all sides of a discussion, those I agree and disagree with. All becomes a question and suspect. I ultimately quiet myself and my spirit and just watch and listen. Why? Because I want to be a good listener. I want to be enlightened. I want to find truth. Again, I have a VERY long way to go. Too long. But I am working on it. When the words start to fly in here, I go quiet, sit, cross my legs, close my eyes, and let the sounds flow over me until they find truth. For me, it depends on WHO'S doing the arguing. I don't like seeing Black people fighting and quarreling with eachother, especially over nonsense where there is no clear right or wrong. The recent squabble between Dr Umar Johnson and Tariq Nasheed is a good example of Black people wasting time and energy attacking eachother. However I loved seeing intelligent Black people out-debate and cut throught the lies of White racists in an eloquent and elegant manner. I loved seeing Malcolm X debate White scholars and intellectuals and defeat them. I loved seeing Dr Frances Cress Welsing debate White professors and embarass them.

One person's wall is another's window.

Has anyone noticed that most of our policies that regulate education, banking, crime & punishment, security, et al have not changed much since the Reagan administration? If there was a change, it made the law more corporate friendly? I don't think a Hillary Clinton administration will make broad sweeping changes. I imagine the same players will have a seat at her table. I haven't watched closely enough to see who is aligning themselves with Trump.