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@I love black forums, when you make a declarative statement like "Alek Wek is not pretty," It sounds like a universal truth which it clearly is not; it is just your opinion. Standards for beauty are not universal across cultures or even within a culture across time. Do you think other people from the Sudan think Alek is not pretty? How do you think her parents or her lovers feel about her attractiveness? Welcome to the forum!

That right there is the beauty of life and interacting with others. We all have difference intelligences, knowledge, and experiences. I believe everone is smarter than someone else in some aspect in life. That is what makes the forums so interesting to me. For example the conversation on Vodun @Azacotogan, @Kareem, @Pioneer1, @Delano and the others are having is one I can only read for it is way over my head -- they are all far more knowledgeable than I -- but I'm learning.

My only probkem with Dyson is that he was not nearly as vocal when Obama was in office. Cornel West was consistently critical once Obama revealed he was not going do anything specifically for Black people would contnue the war mongering, and uplift the wealthy at the expense of the poor. West was crucified by Black people for this. Obama was beyond sacrosanct; it was like the imagery of his presidency as the first Black (or half Black man) was more important than than any of the issues plaguing Black people in America. No, I'm not aware of anything he did specifically for Black people other than allow us to tick the box to saying Black president... check. Obama was the president of "all people;" this is the most common refrain of his uncritical supporters. Obama, like every other president, save Kennedy and Lincoln who both got their heads blown off, was the president of the plutocracy. It is not Obama's fault he, like 45, is a product of American's "peculiar" form of government.

That is my one complaint about HBO. they also seem to have a penchant for homosexual sex scences and gratuitious violence. I don't have showtime. You are more of a free spirit a characteristic I admire. I have grown into being a free spirit as I have gotten older, but this comes at a price because American society is not optimized for this characteristic... indeed it is designed to crush it (is that why you are in Australia?)

This song and Baez's sound reminds me of Sheryl Crow, who I really like. I'll listen to more of Joan Baez based on your recommendation. There were a lot of folksy ladies like this in the early 1990s along with Sheryl Crow. The 10,000 Maniacs (Natalie Merchant) are also high on my early 90s favorites. Truth be told, one of my first girlfriends when I was very young was a white chick who played the violin. So 10,000 Maniacs kind of reminds me of that! But I've always loved the sound of violins and other string instruments (cello, viola, etc.). Nile Rodgers in the late 1970s used them all to perfection in his music, and it's always cute white chicks playing those violins and violas! Again there will never be another 70s or 80s. The talent to compose and perform the music, the love, the respect between black and white...all that cannot exist today...sadly. We tried so hard in the USA to fix racism in the 70s and 80s. The powers-that-be just didn't want that to happen. In sum...

Two years ago I was working with a law firm that took the case of a black woman imprisoned in Texas for debt (credit cards). The Eighth Amendment clearly states that cruel and unusual punishment includes "excessive bail" and "excessive fines." It essentially means you cannot go to jail over debt. I pulled some old state-level precedent in Texas affirming this position while writing her habeas corpus brief. She was released from jail after three months. We then sued the debt collector and the Harris County Sheriff's Office. The case settled out of court. Granted we strategically got the cases in front of sympathetic judges. So this won't work everywhere despite the law being pretty clear about debt and prison.

Man oh man, so so good.

I am the user "I was Banned From LSA" A lot of black women have no interest in raising black children with active fathers in the home or in their kids lives. A user on Lipstickalley admitted she told her children's father she would kill him. A week later, he was murdered and she was arrested for it. She even posted the article stating she almost went to prison. Another user is 39, a 3x3, and recently pregnant for an 18 year old who graduated high school last spring. This woman also admitted to being anti black men, says her 15 year old daughter might also be pregnant for a man in his 30s. None of her children's fathers are admittedly active. If you are a black man and you refuse black female group think, they will team up to ban you. They are insanely jealous of non black women, yet they hype up BW and WM. They also get scared and sad when black men date white women. These same women lust over white men. I did create my account. I had issues logging on but I'm here now. My name is "I love black forums"

You mean "unhealthy" right? But that is a very interesting idea and I think you are right. When I was in grade school they had a special class for the bad kids. The crazy thing was the the class was full of boys and they were are darked skinned. It make me think that darked skinned boys were bad -- an easy conclusion for a young boy to draw given the way they were all put in a special class. Many of the boys were in a gang. Ebony Magazine wrote an article about their gang back in the mid 70's they came across much more menacing than they were in real life... furthuring engaining the stereotype into the mainstream. At any rate, they didn't even make film that easily captured dark skinned people in photographs properly -- especially those polaroid cameras. Being darked was never anyone's standard of beauty. Models like Alex wek were the exception not the rule.

I mentioned Mechee X in another thread, perhaps this discussion would be a great time to drop another one of her videos: Chev Colorism. I don't know 'how many times' it has been a light skinned sista or biracial woman who has combated racism and colorism more so than darker skinned women in my experience. I've seen this from time to time myself. Often times it's the light skinned AfroAmericans who are the quickest to speak up against racism and make their voices heard. I believe it comes from being more confident as individuals. Many very light or mixed AfroAmericans grew up being seen as attractive and "better than" in the AfroAmerican community which gave them a strong dose of self esteem in general, so ofcourse that high esteem and self worth would carrry over to anything they do in life. Many dark skined people were called ugly and rejected growing up so they often turn into angry "Clarence Thomas" like figures who hate their own community as they get older. There's something about the United States that it's very healthy for many dark skinned people. It's to the point that if I see a very dark skinned person who is in shape, well dressed, well behaved, and smiling I almost automatically assume they are African or from the Carribean because if they were born and raised in the United States they would look sloppy and have an even worse attitude. (because of how society treated them)

I'm sorry, but any black person who regularly uses terms like "people of color" and "minorities" are enemies to black people. Notice how some of the most [in]famous black women married to white men are very dark complexioned? I've never seen it, but from I understand there is a show on TV now about a dark-skinned Nigerian woman married to a white man? White supremacist society is definitely pushing the interracial and homophile agendas with black people to dilute and destroy us further. I've NEVER seen or read about these levels of vitriol coming from black women towards black men at any other time in history. I must admit that I grew up in one of the whitest states in the Union. So all I dated through my 20s was white chicks because that's all there was available to me. I deliberately sought out the darkest-skinned black women I could find in college. Today I'm afraid to date black women because so many want to raise effeminate, emasculated black boys. It's like a trend, a pop culture style. You have to get lucky to find righteous pro-black women these days, as a vast majority of our sisters echo anything/everything Michelle Obama and Oprah say, which is anti-black man, anti-masculinity and pro-LGBT. This is a very painful topic to talk about. It's also why Margaret Garner is one of my greatest heroes. She had escaped slavery in the 1850s. Once the white imperialists caught up to her and were about to take her back into custody, Margaret slashed her young daughter's throat and killed her. She'd rather her daughter die than be subjected to a lifetime of rape and manipulation by feral white males. Many of our ancestors did the same thing on slave ships. They jumped overboard and drowned instead of living a life of torture; or just threw their kids overboard to save them from a life of torture. I have a similar mentality today. I'm well-armed always. I will shoot first and die standing up, not begging white imperialists for freedom and dignity. Our ancestors instilled that in my psyche. These people put us through unspeakable sexual torture that still scars us to this day. Black men have that buck mentality (sleeping with as many women as possible) because we were trained to do that during slavery to produce more slaves; like dogs reproducing. Bedwenches started willingly sleeping with white imperialists for extra food and privileges, and now do so today for the same privileges. Same with the homophile white imperialists who raped little boys and grown men. Those boys and men were ultimately conditioned into believing that was their natural lifestyle. It continues today. This is the modus operandi of #BlackLivesMatter and #ADOS. Their first loyalty is white liberals. The act they put on to look like they are pro-black is so incredibly transparent and phony that I'm not even sure why they try anymore. But their loyal followers eat it up anyway.

To be clear, my point was that Anderson's quote got a high level of engagement. Further, no one agreed with Claud's quote many disagreeing with it with it quite strongly --even getting on me for sharing the opinion. You may like this video I took of Michael Eric Dyson being harshly critical of Obama.