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@Pioneer1 what happened? When did you start espousing this belief?

“A complete nincompoop, racist…” or “America’s only hope?” Well which one is it? These views are on the complete opposite side of the spectrum. I don’t think either is true. Starting the debate from these positions is bound to be unproductive. @Stefan the man was the governor of a state and he was a heart beat away from leading the entire country — by definition he is a leader. He is clearly intelligent on some level given his resume. We may disagree with him politically, morally even, but questioning his basic intelligence is extreme and bound to lead to to false conclusions about the man.

ok @Troy Well, US is a Noir science fiction film. Nope is a science fiction mystery. Black Panther is a blaxploitation modern superhero film. The Woman King is one historical fiction. So, which do I prefer. Like with athletes that play different positions < Shaq was a center. Jordan was a shooting guard. Karl Malone was a power forward > I don't like to make preference on films in different genres. For example Che or The Dark Knight came out in 2008, I like both but they are different films. I would prefer Che over JFK or Nixon. I prefer Dark Knight over Batman and Robin or one of the post Lou Gossett Punisher. As for artistic merit... The Woman King made many Black people reassess their comprehension or knowledge or relationship to our enslavement to Whites , across the world. Many men, including Black men, were challenged in their views of Black women in the past and Black women today. Black Panther challenged many Black men in their ideas of ownership. As many Black men felt insult that the Black Panther role didn't get recast. In terms of a historical fiction, the woman king is the prime example of women in stunt work. The training, the fight scenes, was unlike any movie before, in the art world. The plot dealt with the complexity of west african communities during the cusp of the european imperial ownership over the continent. It is historical fiction, but it made thoughtful plot choices. Black Panther Wakanda Forever, like the original presented places that are not mostly white european in look or culture, in the superhero world. Like the outlaw josey whales or thunderheart or skinwalkers or apocalypto, Wakanda Forever addresses the ugly elephant in the room of the american continent. That all of these countries are in spite of the indigenous people who used to live on them. So... artistically both offer various thoughtful or craftful advances. I will say The Woman King is more artful. In comparison, US or Nope are of a smaller scale. Now in immediate defense, US or Nope are smaller budget films. And some things require money. Presentations of Black culture or Indigenous culture , like any culture, ala Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon for white asians, or Gladiator for White European culture, require money. But, US or Nope offer audiences something Black Panther or The Woman King don't. Critique to intimate modernity. I love Black History and the worlds Black people can find in Fantasy. But, I do think the modern audience needs its self to see itself, and US or Nope do that. Throughout modern humanity, governments do many things, whose problems are rarely made public until the damage is unrecoverable. Eugenics programs, Syphilis experiments or the like are rampant in history. Who knows the true damage? We all know Hollywood has many thespians who died of cancer doing movies out west. If the FBI/CiA or three letter people are known to have infiltrated every organization in humanity then what does that mean concerning the production choices of hollywood? US is about that. It is more vague than The Woman King or Black PAnther Wakanda Forever, because what common person knows the truth of such actions. But it is generates thought if individuals, especially in the USA are willing to see what they may be afraid to see. As for Nope, I recall weeks ago this year, two thousand and twenty two by the christian calendar, people in media talking about UFO's. Nope is about media, that which is truly unique- the cloud, those who want to be famous- keke palmer, those who are trying to be successful with their character-kaluuya, the raised and lost in media - steven yeun's character <who reflects so many child stars in sports/movies/music>,the true artists whose stubbornness leads to their doom - wincott <hopefully not me one day:) > . In the USA today media is arguably out of control and Nope is a lens to all the players in it. Peele's three works: Get Out/US/Nope are in the spirit of fellow film makers in the past like Ousmane Sembene or Ingmar Bergmane or Hitchcock who used small cast, small sets, less special effects. And had stories with sharp themes. Peele is not necessarily new in said way but he is refreshing. As he isn't doing the black situational comedy/romantic comedy stuff like a tyler perry or similar. So I can argue Get Out/US/Nope are artistically more specific than Wakanda Forever or The Woman King and utilize a filmmaking style that tends to yield films that stand the test of time. Wakanda Forever or The Woman King make grand statements, and in media generated alot of questions within the black community or in the indigenous american community <like the role of indigenous people in latin american media, which to be blunt is atrocious> . The difference between Get Out as compared to US or Nope is the criminal. In US the criminal is the government that at the end is untouched. In Nope the criminal is the media culture. In Get Out, the criminal is the truth of White Europeans who deem themselves allies of Black people or all humanity who in truth have nefarious purpose. That artistic message is so sharp it is easier for all audiences to dissect than US or Nope. Did I answer Troy? @Delano we will see. Many people think enter the dragon is the best Bruce Lee film but I argue, Way of the Dragon or The big Boss is greater. I argue that the influence of an artwork to an individual transcends the quantity who like one particular work. @Pioneer1 hmmm She's Gotta have it/school daze/do the right thing are spike lee's first three directed films Get Out/US/Nope are peele's first three directed films. I argue I enjoyed Peele's first three over spike lee's first three. what say you?

Know what else I take as a no? You actually THINKING about an issue. Karen Bass will not represent just Black Angelenos. She will represent the entire city. I know this a hard concept for you to grasp. You being a "Mike Pence is brilliant" believer and all. You exhorting a view that the U.S. and NATO need to launch nukes in defense of a country whose capital city name you couldn't even pronounce a year ago. You espousing the canard that Black people need to pack up and run away if a group of folks speaking a different language move onto the next block. When you say something that actually makes sense and is DOABLE that will benefit Black people, get back to me. But your defeatist attitude, cowardly outlook and belief that the almighty White man has all the answers is disconcerting to me.