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My last post was riddled with typos. Including the post you quoted @richardmurray, but i think you got the gist. Cleopatra never called herself black or white. No one really knows exactly how she presented phenotypically. Has Hawass, (who I heard lecture once, at Goldman, where everyone was given a massive coffee take book he created), ever sued the producers of movies who depicted Jesus the Christ as blond-haired and blue-eyed, where we do know a man of his time and place could not have been.

@Chevdove Well, I hoped my post aided in clarity. I am saddened it didn't. But, you offer a great question. What is the race of cleopatra? now you may ask, didn't I, Richard, answer that. Well no, I didn't. All human beings are part of various races, that are clearly defined with various labels for communication sake. I myself, am male-my gender or sexual physicality at birth/black-my phenotype or appearance/anglo- the language I speak/african- my majority geographic ancestry, note a difference between saying african as opposed to nigerian. and continuing. But what is the point? What is the race of cleopatra? Is it the cultural race she adhered to? Cleopatra didn't call herself Greek or Hellens, she called herself the queen of egypt. Egpyt is the greek word for Kemet. But, South Africa is the white european term for the lands consisting of and between the Namib or Zululand. Yet, Charlize Theron who has no african or black ancestry, not the same thing, calls herself south african. So, Cleopatra called herself Egyptian. Is it her geographic ancestry? Human beings always have mixed ancestry in some form or fashion. A majority of Cleopatra's ancestry is macedonian-hellens/greek, Most Descended of Enslaved from Canada to Argentina have a minority of ancestry from europe, while a majority of ancestry from africa and yet most Descended of Enslaved do not call themselves African or European but Black or NEgra or Noir. So Hawass or others, giving greater attributation to her geographic ancestry is dysfunctionally discarding Cleopatra's life. She had the money or resources to relocate to Greece with money and leave Egypt without a greater fight. Is it her phenotype? My guess is Cleopatra was white. I have no proof cause Cleopatra is one of the most historically manipulated figures. And, what I have seen is unverifiable. But her being white doesn't suggest her complete ancestry or the ancestry she valued or her heritage she valued. This is why I continually say finding one's roots has nothing to do with paper trails because the identity of people in the past can only come from their words. I really think the diary or the speech from one's forebears isn't given their proper value in truly comprehending a person's past and definitely one's ancestry. Supposedly where her palace was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antirhodos\ Supposedly from the palace in egypt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bust_of_Cleopatra a bust supposedly made in italy during her trip to rome https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bust_of_Cleopatra_VII_in_the_Altes_Museum_Berlin So what is the race if Cleopatra ? Is it what she wanted , which no one in modernity knows? Is it what anyone in modernity guesses, even though her life is full of racial complexity? @Pioneer1 your correct, but the question is who are arabs? The problem with the racial term arabs is the same with latinos. In Encanto, the black latinos seem to live absent any friction with white latinos but in reality in most latin american homes, the dark are not treated equally or better than the light, and the powerful in the house are rarely the black while usually the white. In the same context. Arabs is to open ended a racial term. Who are arabs ? those born in the arabian peninsula? those who speak arabic? those who look mulatto in the american continent context but live in North africa or south east europe or westernmost asia arab? If Common the Black American thespian was born in egypt , and all anyone had was a photo, is he black or arab? My point is, when you have a loose racial classification it yields negative biases because the definition allows for too much and restricts to little. the same with American. I don't know how many times I have heard black people utter, you born in the USA your american, which based on descended of enslaved history range from an insult to a crude simplicity. Is anyone Statian , of the usa, because of the legal system's rulings on classification of children based on geography, or some culture or heritage, or the quantity of forebears in the usa ?

You can expose their hypocrisy. Which may not change them, but will help those with an open minds see them for what they are. Again Fransters comments were valuable .

I think Arabs know that Egypt was Black for thousands of years. By the time Cleopatra came around Egypt was a very old civilization, long past it’s prime. The people who rule American today look nothing like the people who ran this land mass just a few centuries ago. Filling a lawsuit does smell racist.

WTF?! You use this guy talking to? If anyone diggs up the entire video please share it.

The fact that some Egyptian lawyer wants to file a lawsuit because a MIXED RACED woman is playing Cleopatra just proves how racist and ignorant a lot of these Arabs are. They don't want to admit that the original Egyptians were Black and that the current Arab occupants are INVADERS who came there in mass mostly after the 14th century.